On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:24:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
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On Aug 29, 6:50 pm, hk wrote:
...and health are now issues *on* the table.

Guaranteed.

A 72-year-old man who has had four bouts with cancer...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/23...ealth.records/

And?

Means absolutely nothing. He could also get hit by one of his wife's beer
trucks the day after the inauguration.

The POTUS has a responsibility to select a qualified VP, ready to step in
should the need arise.
McCain didn't do that. He selected someone who might make him more
electable, that's all.

I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She simply
is not qualified.

Who are you and what have you done with Eisboch? :)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:24:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 29, 6:50 pm, hk wrote:
...and health are now issues *on* the table.

Guaranteed.

A 72-year-old man who has had four bouts with cancer...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/23...ealth.records/

And?

Means absolutely nothing. He could also get hit by one of his wife's
beer
trucks the day after the inauguration.

The POTUS has a responsibility to select a qualified VP, ready to step in
should the need arise.
McCain didn't do that. He selected someone who might make him more
electable, that's all.

I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I
am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She
simply
is not qualified.

Who are you and what have you done with Eisboch? :)

He's one of the truly Independent folks.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:24:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I
am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She
simply
is not qualified.



Who are you and what have you done with Eisboch? :)


LOL!

Present and accounted for.
I guess I just have a strange, unique view of what the POTUS is and what
he/she have as responsibilities.

McCain could have built a very respectable and strong team. He chose
rather to enhance his electibility.
It would have been ok if the VP selection had been someone with experience.
But, he chose a complete newbie, trying to work his "maverick" reputation.

Sorry. The stakes are too high for those cute games.
There's only one other choice, and the team is much stronger, IMO.

Eisboch

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:33 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:24:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I
am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She
simply
is not qualified.

Who are you and what have you done with Eisboch? :)

LOL!

Present and accounted for.
I guess I just have a strange, unique view of what the POTUS is and what
he/she have as responsibilities.

McCain could have built a very respectable and strong team. He chose
rather to enhance his electibility.
It would have been ok if the VP selection had been someone with experience.
But, he chose a complete newbie, trying to work his "maverick" reputation.

Sorry. The stakes are too high for those cute games.
There's only one other choice, and the team is much stronger, IMO.

I respect your reasoning - it is a valid argument.

I just don't agree. I think back on my life and the various serious
and important decisions I've had to make for myself and others and
honestly can't think of a single time that I was "fully qualified" to
make them due to age, experience or ability.

Think about it - were you fully qualified to take a flier and start
your successful business? I know I wasn't fully qualified to take a
senior management position, but I was willing to learn on the job,
make the decisions, admit my mistakes and rectify them and keep
everybody moving in the same direction. That is what defines
leadership at it's base level - you have it, some others here have it
- it's that undefinable quality of sense of purpose that makes leaders
leaders.

I believe that McCain is that kind of person and from what I saw six
months ago when I first heard about Palin, she struck me as being the
same - somebody with the courage of conviction, the ability to be
pragmatic when necessary and the future outlook of relative youth.

Is Obama a "leader"? Certainly has the skills to be a leader - he
understands the trappings of power if you will from the determined
poses to the dramatic staging. The question is can he make a hard
decision outside his pay grade - that's what bothers me about Obama
because I don't think he can.

I suspect we will agree to disagree and that's fine - what makes the
world go 'round. :)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I respect your reasoning - it is a valid argument.

I just don't agree. I think back on my life and the various serious
and important decisions I've had to make for myself and others and
honestly can't think of a single time that I was "fully qualified" to
make them due to age, experience or ability.



other good points snipped for brevity

Part of the evaluation of risk taking is consideration to the ramifications
of failure, both to yourself and to others directly dependent on your
success. These are pretty high stakes and one needs to be very confident
in the team's qualifications.

I know that in my business it was just as important to know what contracts
*not* to take as it was determining which ones to aggressively go after.

But,both you and RG have made valid points worth consideration. I'll keep
an open mind and see how this all plays out.

Eisboch

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:56:56 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I respect your reasoning - it is a valid argument.

I just don't agree. I think back on my life and the various serious
and important decisions I've had to make for myself and others and
honestly can't think of a single time that I was "fully qualified" to
make them due to age, experience or ability.

other good points snipped for brevity

Part of the evaluation of risk taking is consideration to the ramifications
of failure, both to yourself and to others directly dependent on your
success. These are pretty high stakes and one needs to be very confident
in the team's qualifications.

I know that in my business it was just as important to know what contracts
*not* to take as it was determining which ones to aggressively go after.

But,both you and RG have made valid points worth consideration. I'll keep
an open mind and see how this all plays out.

That's all anyone can ask.

I've felt for a while now, since the election cycle started cranking
up last year, that this is one of those nexus points in the flow of
history where civilizations are set to collide.

The choice is going to be important, no doubt about it. However, I
think in the end, it's just as important to stand behind whoever is
elected whether you agree with that individual or not because the
cirsumstances are that critical to the survival of our society.

And the band plays on. :)

On Aug 29, 8:02*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:33 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:24:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... *but I
am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. * She
simply
is not qualified.

Who are you and what have you done with Eisboch? *:)

LOL!

Present and accounted for.
I guess I just have a strange, unique view of what the POTUS is and what
he/she have as responsibilities.

McCain could have built a very respectable and strong team. * He chose
rather to enhance his electibility.
It would have been ok if the VP selection had been someone with experience.
But, he chose a complete newbie, trying to work his "maverick" reputation.