McCain's Age...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
Top posted on purpose....

Sick doesn't begin to describe the depths of Hairy's hatred for anyone who
is not a cookie-cutter cutout of his own twisted self.

In my 71 years of living I have never encountered a more mean-spirited
person, and that includes all the weirdoes I encountered during thirty
years of law enforcement.




You think hanging around union halls had anything to do with it?

Eisboch



I would hope that most Union members don't share any of Harry's
personality disorders.

McCain's Age...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
Top posted on purpose....

Sick doesn't begin to describe the depths of Hairy's hatred for anyone who
is not a cookie-cutter cutout of his own twisted self.

In my 71 years of living I have never encountered a more mean-spirited
person, and that includes all the weirdoes I encountered during thirty
years of law enforcement.




You think hanging around union halls had anything to do with it?

Eisboch



Cute.

Mu lack of tolerance for righties is based upon what they have done
since 1981 to foch over this country, generally, and what they have done
and do to impose their small-minded, backwards "norms" on people who do
not believe as they do. What perversions they engage in their homes with
their family members, such as forcing a pregnant young daughter to have
a baby, is sad and stupid. Forcing that backwardness on society as a
whole, which is the rightie goal, is not tolerable. I have many such
example, but that one will do.

Further, I think it was totally irresponsible for Palin to get pregnant
at her age and then not abort when early pregnancy tests revealed a
fetus with such a devastating abnormality.

McCain's Age...
 

hk wrote:
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
TJ wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:14:13 -0700, CalifBill wrote:


Actually is not obvious at all. Obama has no, zero, nada executive
experience.

You are overlooking the obvious. So far, he has run a successful
campaign. It may not seem like much, but, if you pay attention,
campaigns to show how a candidate behaves under pressure, his
organizational skills, finances, etc. My left leaning bias may be
showing, but so far, I haven't been impressed with McCain's
campaign. I have been with Obama's. However, this is where the
fun starts. The next 10 weeks will be interesting. It's close.
It's relatively clean. I'm interested.

Candidates don't run campaigns anymore. That's what they hire
campaign managers to do.

Someone said during the primaries that the Presidency is no place
for on-the-job training. That sounds like something someone who has
never actually run something would say. Even Vice Presidents don't
know what it really involves to be President, though they probably
are closer to it than almost anybody else. As someone who has been
an "XO" who later became the "CO," I can tell you that until that
responsibility actually rests on your shoulders, you don't know what
it is, and you soon find out that many of the things you thought you
could do can't be done after all.

As there is no one running that has been President before, there
isn't a one of them that has any "experience." That's the case with
at least half of the elections in the history of the country. What
makes this one so different? What we need is someone with the
ability to learn and adapt, and to do it quickly, because the
country might not have the time to wait. Obama is young, and he's
arrogant enough to still think he has all the answers. McCain is
seasoned, but is he so old that he can't adapt to the situations he
would face?

There is no clear choice in this election, if you ask me.

TJ


I'm voting for Obama, the candidate who has the wisdom and judgment
to make the important decisions, including picking a top-drawer
running mate.

The respect I once had for McCain declines almost daily. He's not
suited by intellect or by temperament to be president, and his
personal war experience is completely irrelevant, strategically,
tactically, and morally. He's out of touch with today's realities,
technologies, and possibilities. Frankly, he reminds me of an aging
barnyard rooster whose world has passed him by.

He's a 72-year-old man with really serious health issues, a man who
could take sick and become incapacitated at a moment's notice, and
who does he pick for a running mate? A PTA mom with no experience on
the world stage, and why did he choose her? To pander to evangelicals
and women voters.

McCain would be a worse president than George W. Bush, who quite
probably is the worst president in the history of the United States,
or damned close to it.

The choice is clear...someone like Obama who can lead us into the
future, or someone like McCain...who will give us more of the same.

By the way, I appreciate your well-reasoned post.

Thanks. I appreciate that.

But when you come right down to it, age is just a number. I'm 59,
close to the middle of the candidate's ages. I thought I was wise at
45, but I can look back at some things and wonder what the hell I was
thinking back then. I also have known people who were old and feeble
at my age and others that were quick and vital in their 80's. It's a
very individual thing.

Before I decide who I want for my leader, I want to know where he
wants to take me. I haven't heard that from Obama. All I hear is that
he wants to change directions. Whenever I hear somebody say
"Anything's better than what we have now!" I get very, very nervous,
because it simply isn't true. I can think of many figures through
history that would have been worse for the country than George Bush
has been. While I don't care for the job Bush has done, I still think
Gore would have been worse, and Kerry worse yet. I made my decisions
in those elections, and I stand by them.

There's at least one thing that Palin has going for her. She has a
child with Down's Syndrome, and she knew about it early enough in the
pregnancy to have it terminated. That would have eliminated the
difficulties in raising such a child before they happened, yet she
chose to have the child anyway. That shows an ability to face the
tough life-and-death decisions, and the willingness to accept the
consequences of making those decisions. John McCain has also faced
life-and-death decisions, during his military service. If either
Democrat has faced such decisions, it hasn't come out yet as far as I
know.

TJ


I believe McCain's age, coupled with his four bouts of cancer, make his
health a serious issue.

As for Palin's decision, I think it was the wrong one.

Doesn't matter. She made the decision she thought was correct for her
and her family. What does matter is that she had the courage to MAKE
that decision, and to deal with the consequences.

So how has Obama been tested in a life-or-death situation?

TJ

McCain's Age...
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
Top posted on purpose....

Sick doesn't begin to describe the depths of Hairy's hatred for
anyone who is not a cookie-cutter cutout of his own twisted self.

In my 71 years of living I have never encountered a more
mean-spirited person, and that includes all the weirdoes I
encountered during thirty years of law enforcement.




You think hanging around union halls had anything to do with it?

Eisboch


Cute.
++
Mu lack of tolerance for... what they have done
and do to impose their small-minded, backwards "norms" on people who do
not believe as they do.

How is their belief that a unborn child is THEIR child different from
your belief that people should abort any child with an abnormality.

Further, I think it was totally irresponsible for Palin to get pregnant
at her age and then not abort when early pregnancy tests revealed a
fetus with such a devastating abnormality.

CP can result in a child with NO motor skills, one who needs help to
eat, get ready for bed, go to the bathroom etc, should Tom and his wife
have abort their son, just because the child could have a severe case of
CP and might spend his life in a wheelchair, not being able to even talk
or effectively communicate?

I have talk swimming lessons to kids with DS, the development and mental
capabilities are varied. Many children with DS live will into adulthood
and live a self sufficient and productive life.

McCain's Age...
 

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
Top posted on purpose....

Sick doesn't begin to describe the depths of Hairy's hatred for
anyone who is not a cookie-cutter cutout of his own twisted self.

In my 71 years of living I have never encountered a more
mean-spirited person, and that includes all the weirdoes I
encountered during thirty years of law enforcement.




You think hanging around union halls had anything to do with it?

Eisboch


Cute.

++ Mu lack of tolerance for... what they have done and do to
impose their small-minded, backwards "norms" on people who do not
believe as they do.

How is their belief that a unborn child is THEIR child different from
your belief that people should abort any child with an abnormality.

Further, I think it was totally irresponsible for Palin to get
pregnant at her age and then not abort when early pregnancy tests
revealed a fetus with such a devastating abnormality.

CP can result in a child with NO motor skills, one who needs help to
eat, get ready for bed, go to the bathroom etc, should Tom and his wife
have abort their son, just because the child could have a severe case of
CP and might spend his life in a wheelchair, not being able to even talk
or effectively communicate?

I have TAUGHT swimming lessons to kids with DS, the development and mental
capabilities are varied. Many children with DS live will into adulthood
and live a self sufficient and productive life.

McCain's Age...
 

"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
Top posted on purpose....

Sick doesn't begin to describe the depths of Hairy's hatred for anyone
who is not a cookie-cutter cutout of his own twisted self.

In my 71 years of living I have never encountered a more mean-spirited
person, and that includes all the weirdoes I encountered during thirty
years of law enforcement.




You think hanging around union halls had anything to do with it?

Eisboch

I would hope that most Union members don't share any of Harry's
personality disorders.

Krause professes to be pro-choice. For most people, pro-choice means that
they believe such decisions should be left to the individuals directly
involved. For Krause, it means being pro any choice that agrees 100% with
his own. No surprises there. I myself am solidly pro-choice, and I can
only imagine the difficulty in facing a decision such as the one the Palin
family faced. There's probably better than even odds that I would have
chosen to take the other road had I been faced with the same dilemma, but I
fully respect the decision the Palin family made. They chose what their
hearts felt was the right decision for their family and their faith, and I
couldn't even begin to think of second-guessing it, let alone declaring it
selfish and without admirability. There is no limit to Krause's depravity.
He is an embarrassment to humanity.

McCain's Age...
 

RG wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
Top posted on purpose....

Sick doesn't begin to describe the depths of Hairy's hatred for anyone
who is not a cookie-cutter cutout of his own twisted self.

In my 71 years of living I have never encountered a more mean-spirited
person, and that includes all the weirdoes I encountered during thirty
years of law enforcement.



You think hanging around union halls had anything to do with it?

Eisboch
I would hope that most Union members don't share any of Harry's
personality disorders.

Krause professes to be pro-choice. For most people, pro-choice means that
they believe such decisions should be left to the individuals directly
involved. For Krause, it means being pro any choice that agrees 100% with
his own. No surprises there. I myself am solidly pro-choice, and I can
only imagine the difficulty in facing a decision such as the one the Palin
family faced. There's probably better than even odds that I would have
chosen to take the other road had I been faced with the same dilemma, but I
fully respect the decision the Palin family made. They chose what their
hearts felt was the right decision for their family and their faith, and I
couldn't even begin to think of second-guessing it, let alone declaring it
selfish and without admirability. There is no limit to Krause's depravity.
He is an embarrassment to humanity.



I am sure he is an embarrassment to his family and anyone who has the
misfortune of having to work with him.

McCain's Age...
 

TJ wrote:
hk wrote:


I believe McCain's age, coupled with his four bouts of cancer, make
his health a serious issue.

As for Palin's decision, I think it was the wrong one.

Doesn't matter. She made the decision she thought was correct for her
and her family. What does matter is that she had the courage to MAKE
that decision, and to deal with the consequences.

So how has Obama been tested in a life-or-death situation?

TJ


Why should that matter? Again, you seem to be going down the road that
says certain "experiences" are important. I'm more interested in
judgment. McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time. That is bad judgment.

McCain's Age...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:


I believe McCain's age, coupled with his four bouts of cancer, make his
health a serious issue.

As for Palin's decision, I think it was the wrong one.

Doesn't matter. She made the decision she thought was correct for her and
her family. What does matter is that she had the courage to MAKE that
decision, and to deal with the consequences.

So how has Obama been tested in a life-or-death situation?

TJ


Why should that matter? Again, you seem to be going down the road that
says certain "experiences" are important. I'm more interested in judgment.
McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time. That is bad judgment.

The main stream media (ABC News) has already put the lie to that 90% crap.
Hairy just parrots the party line without independently verifying any of his
"truths".

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:49:15 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message


Why should that matter? Again, you seem to be going down the road that
says certain "experiences" are important. I'm more interested in judgment.
McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time. That is bad judgment.

The main stream media (ABC News) has already put the lie to that 90% crap.
Hairy just parrots the party line without independently verifying any of his
"truths".

Yep. And he had McCain's bouts of cancer up to 5, so he doesn't
restrict himself to Dem talking points.
But that same 90% is coming out of Obama's mouth, as is the $5M
"middle class" that McCain joked about and said would be distorted,
etc, etc.
Trouble is McCain has no clue about that. That happens when you're
worth north of $100M and don't even know how many houses you have.
Twice he couldn't give a straight answer to simple questions.
I already mentioned that "helping laid-off steelworkers" BS Obama
constantly spouts. Same with his so-called anti-Iraq-war stance.
He wasn't in the Senate holding any responsibility for his vote.
Politics as usual. Distortions and lies.
I think Obama is more dishonest than McCain, and McCain more out
of touch than Obama.
No difference between the far left and far right in their propaganda.
The debates will reveal the real policy differences if the moderators
are good. Don't count on that.
But the candidates will be BSing there too.
Because saying and doing are entirely different.
Damn, I wish Dick Nixon was a candidate.

--Vic

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:10:19 GMT, "RG" wrote:

Krause professes to be pro-choice. For most people, pro-choice means that
they believe such decisions should be left to the individuals directly
involved. For Krause, it means being pro any choice that agrees 100% with
his own.

Just taking a quick perusal of the more left of this august group of
people convinces me that McCain hit a master stroke with the addition
of Palin to the ticket. She's lived it, she's done it and she made
the choice to reaffirm life, not end it. It's the perfect example of
Pro-Choice only it reflect badly on them.

They are finally seeing the fruits of their identity politics - it's
been turned around against them and they are absoutely beside
themselves at being caught up and beat at their own game.

Consider that none other than HILLARY! is impressed with the choice
says something. Somewhere in her heart of hearts she's saying "You Go
Girl". :)

One last mini-rant if I may. The Left's biggest fear is Obama
actually being elected President. Why?

Becasue it's the end of affirmative action.

Think about it. :)

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:12:27 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

I am sure he is an embarrassment to his family and anyone who has the
misfortune of having to work with him.

He's an embarrassement to the group and 98% of us have never met him.

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:00:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"TJ" wrote in message
...


Before I decide who I want for my leader, I want to know where he wants to
take me. I haven't heard that from Obama. All I hear is that he wants to
change directions.

Maybe these will help you out:

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

Damn - nothing from either one about nuking anybody.

Crap. :)

McCain's Age...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:12:27 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

I am sure he is an embarrassment to his family and anyone who has the
misfortune of having to work with him.

He's an embarrassement to the group and 98% of us have never met him.


Ahhh...good job, Brownie!

BTW, about half of the boys on "your side" who post here are racists.

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:02:41 -0400, TJ wrote:


Candidates don't run campaigns anymore. That's what they hire campaign
managers to do.

What's your point? It's still Obama's campaign, and it's still the team
Obama put together. As President, you don't think either candidate is
going to do it all, do you? It's the team they assemble. You know,
advisers, cabinet, etc.

McCain's Age...
 

Consider that none other than HILLARY! is impressed with the choice
says something. Somewhere in her heart of hearts she's saying "You Go
Girl". :)


Oh, she's saying that big time, I believe, albeit with her own
self-interests in mind. I don't think for a minute that she and Bubba want
Obama to win in November. When the curtain closes behind them in the booth
this November, I fully expect both of them to punch the card for McCain.
She desperately wants another shot in 2012. The Clinton's won't be happy
until they can back the U-Haul up to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue once again.

Did you notice that during Barack's acceptance speech that Hillary was never
shown among the many reaction shots of the crowd? If she was shown, I
certainly missed it. Bill was a confirmed no-show. He and most of
Hillary's staff blew town before Barack's speech. Classy. Hillary was
supposedly there, but no I saw no evidence of her presence during the speech
nor did I see any post-speech interviews for reaction. Even more strange is
the fact that I've heard no mention of this in the press.

McCain's Age...
 

McCain's Age...
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:49:15 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message


Why should that matter? Again, you seem to be going down the road that
says certain "experiences" are important. I'm more interested in
judgment.
McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time. That is bad judgment.

The main stream media (ABC News) has already put the lie to that 90%
crap.
Hairy just parrots the party line without independently verifying any of
his
"truths".

Yep. And he had McCain's bouts of cancer up to 5, so he doesn't
restrict himself to Dem talking points.
But that same 90% is coming out of Obama's mouth, as is the $5M
"middle class" that McCain joked about and said would be distorted,
etc, etc.
Trouble is McCain has no clue about that. That happens when you're
worth north of $100M and don't even know how many houses you have.
Twice he couldn't give a straight answer to simple questions.
I already mentioned that "helping laid-off steelworkers" BS Obama
constantly spouts. Same with his so-called anti-Iraq-war stance.
He wasn't in the Senate holding any responsibility for his vote.
Politics as usual. Distortions and lies.
I think Obama is more dishonest than McCain, and McCain more out
of touch than Obama.
No difference between the far left and far right in their propaganda.
The debates will reveal the real policy differences if the moderators
are good. Don't count on that.
But the candidates will be BSing there too.
Because saying and doing are entirely different.
Damn, I wish Dick Nixon was a candidate.

--Vic




Let's start a write-in campaign.

Eisboch

McCain's Age...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:10:19 GMT, "RG" wrote:

Krause professes to be pro-choice. For most people, pro-choice means that
they believe such decisions should be left to the individuals directly
involved. For Krause, it means being pro any choice that agrees 100% with
his own.

Just taking a quick perusal of the more left of this august group of
people convinces me that McCain hit a master stroke with the addition
of Palin to the ticket. She's lived it, she's done it and she made
the choice to reaffirm life, not end it. It's the perfect example of
Pro-Choice only it reflect badly on them.

They are finally seeing the fruits of their identity politics - it's
been turned around against them and they are absoutely beside
themselves at being caught up and beat at their own game.

Consider that none other than HILLARY! is impressed with the choice
says something. Somewhere in her heart of hearts she's saying "You Go
Girl". :)

One last mini-rant if I may. The Left's biggest fear is Obama
actually being elected President. Why?

Becasue it's the end of affirmative action.

Think about it. :)



Gee. With all this intrigue, second guessing of motives, age, illnesses,
suspicion of origin, and questioning of qualifications of both election year
2008 candidates, old George Bush is starting to look pretty good.

You know who I think delivered the biggest flop speech at the Dem's
Convention?

Our carbon credit guru, AGORE.

Eisboch

Eisboch

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:23:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:10:19 GMT, "RG" wrote:

Krause professes to be pro-choice. For most people, pro-choice means that
they believe such decisions should be left to the individuals directly
involved. For Krause, it means being pro any choice that agrees 100% with
his own.

Just taking a quick perusal of the more left of this august group of
people convinces me that McCain hit a master stroke with the addition
of Palin to the ticket. She's lived it, she's done it and she made
the choice to reaffirm life, not end it. It's the perfect example of
Pro-Choice only it reflect badly on them.

They are finally seeing the fruits of their identity politics - it's
been turned around against them and they are absoutely beside
themselves at being caught up and beat at their own game.

Consider that none other than HILLARY! is impressed with the choice
says something. Somewhere in her heart of hearts she's saying "You Go
Girl". :)

One last mini-rant if I may. The Left's biggest fear is Obama
actually being elected President. Why?

Becasue it's the end of affirmative action.

Think about it. :)

Gee. With all this intrigue, second guessing of motives, age, illnesses,
suspicion of origin, and questioning of qualifications of both election year
2008 candidates, old George Bush is starting to look pretty good.

ROTFL!!

I can't believe I'm leaning towards voting for a Squid. :)

You know who I think delivered the biggest flop speech at the Dem's
Convention?

Our carbon credit guru, AGORE.

I didn't see it - read a transcript though.

Same old, same old.

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)

McCain's Age...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)


Can't. Overqualified.

Eisboch

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:54:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)

Can't. Overqualified.

Hmmm - how about Under-Secretary of the Navy as soon as I establish
the Corps as the Parent Agency? :)

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:02:24 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)

How do you plan to pay for all that stuff?

An Oil Well in every back yard.

McCain's Age...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)

How do you plan to pay for all that stuff?

McCain's Age...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:02:24 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)

How do you plan to pay for all that stuff?

An Oil Well in every back yard.

Union folks gonna drill the wells?

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:01:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:02:24 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)

How do you plan to pay for all that stuff?

An Oil Well in every back yard.

In addition to that we want........free healthcare..........$1,000 to
all voters...........a tax decrease.........and a bag of Doritos to
all Americans!

Can you match that?

McCain's Age...
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)

How do you plan to pay for all that stuff?


Your friends in China will be glad to loan all you need at a reasonable
interest rate.

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hk wrote:
hk wrote:
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
TJ wrote:
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:14:13 -0700, CalifBill wrote:


Actually is not obvious at all. Obama has no, zero, nada executive
experience.

You are overlooking the obvious. So far, he has run a successful
campaign. It may not seem like much, but, if you pay attention,
campaigns to show how a candidate behaves under pressure, his
organizational skills, finances, etc. My left leaning bias may be
showing, but so far, I haven't been impressed with McCain's
campaign. I have been with Obama's. However, this is where the
fun starts. The next 10 weeks will be interesting. It's close.
It's relatively clean. I'm interested.

Candidates don't run campaigns anymore. That's what they hire
campaign managers to do.

Someone said during the primaries that the Presidency is no place
for on-the-job training. That sounds like something someone who has
never actually run something would say. Even Vice Presidents don't
know what it really involves to be President, though they probably
are closer to it than almost anybody else. As someone who has been
an "XO" who later became the "CO," I can tell you that until that
responsibility actually rests on your shoulders, you don't know
what it is, and you soon find out that many of the things you
thought you could do can't be done after all.

As there is no one running that has been President before, there
isn't a one of them that has any "experience." That's the case with
at least half of the elections in the history of the country. What
makes this one so different? What we need is someone with the
ability to learn and adapt, and to do it quickly, because the
country might not have the time to wait. Obama is young, and he's
arrogant enough to still think he has all the answers. McCain is
seasoned, but is he so old that he can't adapt to the situations he
would face?

There is no clear choice in this election, if you ask me.

TJ


I'm voting for Obama, the candidate who has the wisdom and judgment
to make the important decisions, including picking a top-drawer
running mate.

The respect I once had for McCain declines almost daily. He's not
suited by intellect or by temperament to be president, and his
personal war experience is completely irrelevant, strategically,
tactically, and morally. He's out of touch with today's realities,
technologies, and possibilities. Frankly, he reminds me of an aging
barnyard rooster whose world has passed him by.

He's a 72-year-old man with really serious health issues, a man who
could take sick and become incapacitated at a moment's notice, and
who does he pick for a running mate? A PTA mom with no experience on
the world stage, and why did he choose her? To pander to
evangelicals and women voters.

McCain would be a worse president than George W. Bush, who quite
probably is the worst president in the history of the United States,
or damned close to it.

The choice is clear...someone like Obama who can lead us into the
future, or someone like McCain...who will give us more of the same.

By the way, I appreciate your well-reasoned post.

Thanks. I appreciate that.

But when you come right down to it, age is just a number. I'm 59,
close to the middle of the candidate's ages. I thought I was wise at
45, but I can look back at some things and wonder what the hell I was
thinking back then. I also have known people who were old and feeble
at my age and others that were quick and vital in their 80's. It's a
very individual thing.

Before I decide who I want for my leader, I want to know where he
wants to take me. I haven't heard that from Obama. All I hear is that
he wants to change directions. Whenever I hear somebody say
"Anything's better than what we have now!" I get very, very nervous,
because it simply isn't true. I can think of many figures through
history that would have been worse for the country than George Bush
has been. While I don't care for the job Bush has done, I still think
Gore would have been worse, and Kerry worse yet. I made my decisions
in those elections, and I stand by them.

There's at least one thing that Palin has going for her. She has a
child with Down's Syndrome, and she knew about it early enough in the
pregnancy to have it terminated. That would have eliminated the
difficulties in raising such a child before they happened, yet she
chose to have the child anyway. That shows an ability to face the
tough life-and-death decisions, and the willingness to accept the
consequences of making those decisions. John McCain has also faced
life-and-death decisions, during his military service. If either
Democrat has faced such decisions, it hasn't come out yet as far as I
know.

TJ


I believe McCain's age, coupled with his four bouts of cancer, make
his health a serious issue.

As for Palin's decision, I think it was the wrong one.

It was wrong because Palin is at the age where pregnancies for women can
mean serious trouble, both for the woman and the child that is born.
There's a close connection between Down's syndrome and age of the
mother. After 40, if memory serves, the chances of having a child with
the syndrome rise to better than one in 20. Palin must have known that
risk, and apparently was told she was carrying a fetus with the syndrome.

She shouldn't have gotten pregnant. It was selfishness. And she should
have aborted the fetus.

There's not a damned thing admirable in her decisions.

It was selfishness.

Thanks for you opinion. It means nothing.

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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:05:41 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:02:24 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)

How do you plan to pay for all that stuff?

An Oil Well in every back yard.

Union folks gonna drill the wells?

Nope - undocumented workers.

Cheaper.

McCain's Age...
 

Eisboch wrote:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

What I want to know is why Obama hasn't introduced legislation in the
Senate to address any of his "issues" in his two years in the Senate? He
has had ample opportunity to author a bill and introduce it in the
Senate. I believe that he has not done so to ensure that he has not
explicit paper trail that can be followed.

Most of the issues at Obama's set are just that issues. There are no
plans there are ideas and lofty goals but, there are no specifics.

As they say the devil is in the details. And, Obama's biggest fear is
that anyone finds out about the details of his plans.

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Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:
hk wrote:
Palin must have known that
risk, and apparently was told she was carrying a fetus with the syndrome.

She shouldn't have gotten pregnant. It was selfishness. And she should
have aborted the fetus.

There's not a damned thing admirable in her decisions.

It was selfishness.

DAMN! It is both a fetus and her baby, her child. Just as a toddler or
teenager is still her child, the fetus identifies the age of her child,
it does not mean it is not her child. DAMN!

I am just guessing that this pregnancy was one of those "happy surprises
and was not planned. A woman Palin's age had a 1 in 35 chance of having
Down Syndrome. Children with Down Syndrome have a large range of
disability and many work, get married and enjoy life as much as anyone.
Just because she knew her pregnancy was high risk, you think she should
have had an abortion?

I guess Tom and his wife should have aborted their "fetus" because it
had CP, which can be extremely disabling. CP can be substantially more
disabling than Down Syndrome. If that was the case, Tom and his wife
would have missed out on the joy of watching their child grow up and now
as an adult be a productive member of society who has and will continue
to have a positive influence on those he meets.

I guess you are suggestion we should test for any and all disabilities
and abort all "fetuses" that are not perfect. If that was the case, you
would definitely have been aborted.

If Harry Krause had his way my oldest daughter would not be attending
the most rigorous academic program in my county. Only 50 students are
accepted into it each year. She suffers from mild CP and had a grade 1
brain bleed at birth along with a whole pile of other problems.

You are really getting sicker by the day.

Harry Krause is the definition of a life of convenience.

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"BAR" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/



What I want to know is why Obama hasn't introduced legislation in the
Senate to address any of his "issues" in his two years in the Senate?


Simple.

He's been too busy running for President. :-)

Eisboch

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hk wrote:
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:


I believe McCain's age, coupled with his four bouts of cancer, make
his health a serious issue.

As for Palin's decision, I think it was the wrong one.

Doesn't matter. She made the decision she thought was correct for her
and her family. What does matter is that she had the courage to MAKE
that decision, and to deal with the consequences.

So how has Obama been tested in a life-or-death situation?

TJ


Why should that matter? Again, you seem to be going down the road that
says certain "experiences" are important. I'm more interested in
judgment. McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time. That is bad judgment.

That is your opinion.

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hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:12:27 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

I am sure he is an embarrassment to his family and anyone who has the
misfortune of having to work with him.

He's an embarrassement to the group and 98% of us have never met him.


Ahhh...good job, Brownie!

BTW, about half of the boys on "your side" who post here are racists.


Can we toss you a life ring?

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:05:41 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:02:24 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)

How do you plan to pay for all that stuff?

An Oil Well in every back yard.

Union folks gonna drill the wells?

Nope - undocumented workers.

Cheaper.

Also, probably more eager to actually work.

McCain's Age...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.

I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)

How do you plan to pay for all that stuff?


Your friends in China will be glad to loan all you need at a reasonable
interest rate.

What are friends for? 8)

McCain's Age...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:54:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.
I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)
Can't. Overqualified.

Hmmm - how about Under-Secretary of the Navy as soon as I establish
the Corps as the Parent Agency? :)

That would **** off quite a few people.

Change the name of the Annapolis finishing school to the United States
Marine Corps Academy. Replace the docks with ramps. Get rid of the YP's
and replace them Expiditionary Fighting Vehicles. Make the Severn River
a free fire zone, declare open season on rag merchants. Rename the Blue
Angels to the Green *******s.

McCain's Age...
 

D.Duck wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:05:41 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:02:24 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.
I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)
How do you plan to pay for all that stuff?
An Oil Well in every back yard.
Union folks gonna drill the wells?
Nope - undocumented workers.

Cheaper.

Also, probably more eager to actually work.

They will actually show up for work on time and do the work.

McCain's Age...
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:27:03 -0400, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:54:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Let's start a write-in campaign.
I will gladly accept nomination for the Office of The Presidency of
The United States on the Write In Party Ticket.

I will promise a boat in every garage, a chicken in every pot, 40
acres and a mule to work the land.

Tractors are optional.

Wanna run as my Vice-President? :)
Can't. Overqualified.

Hmmm - how about Under-Secretary of the Navy as soon as I establish
the Corps as the Parent Agency? :)

That would **** off quite a few people.

Change the name of the Annapolis finishing school to the United States
Marine Corps Academy. Replace the docks with ramps. Get rid of the YP's
and replace them Expiditionary Fighting Vehicles. Make the Severn River
a free fire zone, declare open season on rag merchants. Rename the Blue
Angels to the Green *******s.

I like it except for the last one. I think Green Airedales would be
more appropriate. And we have to get the Squids proper uniforms -
none of those pansy bell bottoms and those stupid paper cup hats.

Well, your in - Secretary of the Marine Corps it is. :)