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Wayne.B August 28th 08 03:23 AM

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:47:30 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

It was later shown that that rank in *given* based on the number of
years served.......a minimum rank.


You've got it backwards.


Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. August 28th 08 03:30 AM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:47:30 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

It was later shown that that rank in *given* based on the number of
years served.......a minimum rank.


You've got it backwards.


Does that surprise you?

Wayne.B August 28th 08 03:43 AM

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:30:59 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:47:30 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

It was later shown that that rank in *given* based on the number of
years served.......a minimum rank.


You've got it backwards.


Does that surprise you?


It's shocking, who would have thought ?


HK August 28th 08 03:48 AM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:30:59 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:47:30 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

It was later shown that that rank in *given* based on the number of
years served.......a minimum rank.
You've got it backwards.

Does that surprise you?


It's shocking, who would have thought ?



Certainly not you or Reggie Yellowstreak.


--
No way, no how, no McCain!

John H[_3_] August 28th 08 11:53 AM

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:42:59 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:28:13 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:
John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:09:09 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

John H wrote:

Oh, and unlike Herring, my friend is an officer and a gentlemen.
Herring is a horse's ass.
Herring got drafted. Did your friend?
yes, but could you handle a shovel?

Hey! As a matter of fact, I went to Engineer OCS. We learned all about
shovels...and det cord. Det cord is so cool.
Det cord is the way to dig ditches. I wonder if Jim's son knew OCS
was an option for a really creative way to get those ditch's dug.
If you score high enough on the various tests, it was the ASVAB when I
was in, you got to talk to the series commander about becoming an
officer.
I guess his score wasn't high enough.


Not much of a score is required for an Engineer Equipment Operator. Shovels
and 1.5KW generators don't require a lot of expertise.


What do you do with the 1.5kw gen?

I would love to use some of that det cord up on my mother's place to
clean up the back 40. Do you have any spare cord lying around? I
wonder if it would work as an easy way to till up her garden.


A 1.5 is what keeps the lights on in the tents.

Nope, sorry to say I used the last of my det cord while visiting a
southeast Asia country. You might try filling a garden hose with C-4. The
effect should be even better.

John H[_3_] August 28th 08 11:54 AM

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http://tinyurl.com/o42at

John H[_3_] August 28th 08 11:58 AM

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:23:46 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:47:30 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

It was later shown that that rank in *given* based on the number of
years served.......a minimum rank.


You've got it backwards.


I said nothing earlier because the statements were in the ball park as far
as time and rank went. But, Army officers are promoted based on their
efficiency ratings, which happen to be reviewed at intervals based on the
needs of the Army. If officers are being used up quickly, or the Army is
expanding, the time interval will be short. If the service is drawing down,
the time interval will be longer.

[email protected] August 28th 08 01:37 PM

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On Aug 27, 5:47*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 27, 5:32*pm, jim wrote:

hk wrote:


All snipped.


It's heartwarming to know that the leader of the girlie hug and pat
society, AKA Harry Krause, leader of Don and Jim H, has come out of the
closet to be recognized as who and what he is.


All followers of Harry who wish to contribute to his favorite charity
should make their honorariums at the following web page.


http://www.famousdeaddb.com/tiny-tim/


Someone said a member here should be respected because he retired as a
LtCol with the Army.

It was later shown that that rank in *given* based on the number of
years served.......a minimum rank.

OK.......he has my respect up for serving. *But that rank is respected
until that LtCol acts in a way (here or anywhere) to show he does not
deserve that respect.

We are at that point.


Damn you are stupid, you've got it backwards......again.....

Vic Smith August 28th 08 10:39 PM

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:58:28 -0400, John H wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:23:46 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:47:30 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

It was later shown that that rank in *given* based on the number of
years served.......a minimum rank.


You've got it backwards.


I said nothing earlier because the statements were in the ball park as far
as time and rank went. But, Army officers are promoted based on their
efficiency ratings, which happen to be reviewed at intervals based on the
needs of the Army. If officers are being used up quickly, or the Army is
expanding, the time interval will be short. If the service is drawing down,
the time interval will be longer.


Needs of the Army, needs of the Navy.
Same thing. Just as I passed the E-5 exam the Navy bumped subsequent
service needed to attain that rank to 12 months, so since I had only 9
months left I would need to do a 3 month extension to make E-5.
I left 9 months later as an E-4.

--Vic

Eisboch August 28th 08 10:41 PM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:58:28 -0400, John H wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:23:46 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:47:30 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

It was later shown that that rank in *given* based on the number of
years served.......a minimum rank.

You've got it backwards.


I said nothing earlier because the statements were in the ball park as far
as time and rank went. But, Army officers are promoted based on their
efficiency ratings, which happen to be reviewed at intervals based on the
needs of the Army. If officers are being used up quickly, or the Army is
expanding, the time interval will be short. If the service is drawing
down,
the time interval will be longer.


Needs of the Army, needs of the Navy.
Same thing. Just as I passed the E-5 exam the Navy bumped subsequent
service needed to attain that rank to 12 months, so since I had only 9
months left I would need to do a 3 month extension to make E-5.
I left 9 months later as an E-4.



You mean you never got "frocked"?

Eisboch
--Vic




Vic Smith August 28th 08 11:16 PM

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:




You mean you never got "frocked"?

Never heard of it. Remember, I was a BT.
Enlighten me.

--Vic

JimH[_2_] August 28th 08 11:20 PM

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On Aug 28, 6:16*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You mean you never got "frocked"?


Never heard of it. *Remember, I was a BT.
Enlighten me.

--Vic


What is the Navy tradition with crewmen crossing over the equator for
the first time on a ship? They showed it on the PBS "Carrier"
series.........something about polywogs.

Eisboch August 28th 08 11:27 PM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:




You mean you never got "frocked"?

Never heard of it. Remember, I was a BT.
Enlighten me.

--Vic


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frocking

Maybe too late for you. I think it was a Zumwalt thing.

Eisboch



Vic Smith August 28th 08 11:27 PM

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:20:33 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

On Aug 28, 6:16?pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You mean you never got "frocked"?


Never heard of it. ?Remember, I was a BT.
Enlighten me.

--Vic


What is the Navy tradition with crewmen crossing over the equator for
the first time on a ship? They showed it on the PBS "Carrier"
series.........something about polywogs.


Never did that, so I don't know. Navy's got a lot of weird
"traditions" I managed to avoid.
There was one involving a broomstick and Navy Special Fuel Oil
I think. Just heard it mentioned.

--Vic

Eisboch August 28th 08 11:29 PM

GOOD MORNING COASTIES!!!
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 28, 6:16 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You mean you never got "frocked"?


Never heard of it. Remember, I was a BT.
Enlighten me.

--Vic


What is the Navy tradition with crewmen crossing over the equator for
the first time on a ship? They showed it on the PBS "Carrier"
series.........something about polywogs.

---------------------------------------------



No. The tradition and ceremony when crossing the equator is called becoming
a "Shellback".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-crossing_ceremony

Eisboch



Eisboch August 28th 08 11:37 PM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:20:33 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

On Aug 28, 6:16?pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You mean you never got "frocked"?

Never heard of it. ?Remember, I was a BT.
Enlighten me.

--Vic


What is the Navy tradition with crewmen crossing over the equator for
the first time on a ship? They showed it on the PBS "Carrier"
series.........something about polywogs.


Never did that, so I don't know. Navy's got a lot of weird
"traditions" I managed to avoid.
There was one involving a broomstick and Navy Special Fuel Oil
I think. Just heard it mentioned.

--Vic



There are some things we don't discuss in mixed company, Vic.

Eisboch



DK August 29th 08 12:56 AM

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wrote:
On Aug 27, 7:42 pm, DK wrote:
jim wrote:
hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sorry - best one I could find for the Short Water Navy. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_C7m...eature=related
What's next? The Ballad of the Good Humor Men? Song of the Sanitation
Workers? :)
The anthum of the socialistic republic of Krause. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0

Do you think Hazel knows what WAFA posts?


Do you think there is a Hazel?


Stay tuned...

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 29th 08 01:04 AM

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:37:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There are some things we don't discuss in mixed company, Vic.


What mixed company would that be? :)

Vic Smith August 29th 08 01:50 AM

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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:04:13 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:37:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There are some things we don't discuss in mixed company, Vic.


What mixed company would that be? :)


Aw, just shut up Jarhead.

--Vic

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 29th 08 02:28 AM

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:50:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:04:13 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:37:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There are some things we don't discuss in mixed company, Vic.


What mixed company would that be? :)


Aw, just shut up Jarhead.


Now is that anyway for a Squid to talk? :)

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 29th 08 02:42 AM

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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:28:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:50:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:04:13 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:37:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There are some things we don't discuss in mixed company, Vic.

What mixed company would that be? :)


Aw, just shut up Jarhead.


Now is that anyway for a Squid to talk? :)


On second thought... :)

Vic Smith August 29th 08 02:58 AM

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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:42:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:28:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:50:51 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:04:13 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:37:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There are some things we don't discuss in mixed company, Vic.

What mixed company would that be? :)

Aw, just shut up Jarhead.


Now is that anyway for a Squid to talk? :)


On second thought... :)


Hehe. Don't tell anybody else.

--Vic

Tim August 29th 08 03:30 AM

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On Aug 28, 5:16*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You mean you never got "frocked"?


Never heard of it. *Remember, I was a BT.
Enlighten me.

--Vic


"Frocked?" is that another word for "your turn in the barrel?

Tim August 29th 08 03:31 AM

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On Aug 28, 5:20*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:16*pm, Vic Smith wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


You mean you never got "frocked"?


Never heard of it. *Remember, I was a BT.
Enlighten me.


--Vic


What is the Navy tradition with crewmen crossing over the equator for
the first time on a ship? *They showed it on the PBS "Carrier"
series.........something about polywogs.


After all the humiliating probing, and debauchery, you get a
certificate signed by Neptune Regis

BAR[_2_] August 29th 08 03:33 AM

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wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:39:48 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Needs of the Army, needs of the Navy.
Same thing. Just as I passed the E-5 exam the Navy bumped subsequent
service needed to attain that rank to 12 months, so since I had only 9
months left I would need to do a 3 month extension to make E-5.
I left 9 months later as an E-4.


In "critical rates" like FT the Coasties had a 6 month time in grade
deal if your CO goes along. It was possible to be a Chief in 4 years
but you had to ship over to get the E7.
I had a few article 15 problems that had me holding the E5 card when I
was making the stay/go decision. I chose IBM and did the reserves for
a while. It was OK for a while but when they discovered an FT was
hanging out with the deck apes ORTAUG unit they moved me to an ORTEL
and I bailed the first chance I got. Imagine sitting in a warehouse
for 2 days a month with absolutely nothing to do. The ORTAUG had a 40
footer and two 22 footers they took out both days each month. I liked
that and would have retired in the CGR if they had just let me stay
there.
I was dual rated gunner's mate. I took all the correspondence courses
up to E6. (you can get bored on a WAVP bouncing around the north
atlantic for 5 weeks at a time). FTs are cannon cockers in the CG
anyway.


A guy I worked with was a plank owner on and a aegis curiser and a
destroyer before he had 7 years in and was an FT1. At 9 years they were
going to bump him to Chief but, his freaking nut job of a wife wanted
him to get out. They had no kids. I told him he should have divorced the
wife instead of the Navy. He could have been The Navy Chief if he had
stayed in, he was that good.


John H[_3_] August 29th 08 12:37 PM

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:30:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Aug 28, 5:16*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:41:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You mean you never got "frocked"?


Never heard of it. *Remember, I was a BT.
Enlighten me.

--Vic


"Frocked?" is that another word for "your turn in the barrel?


In the Army, 'frocked' means one is allowed to wear a rank insignia which
he's not legitimately earned, yet. For example, a Major may be selected for
Lieutenant Colonel, but be a few hundred down the list for promotion. His
promotion may not occur for several months. But the Army may want him to
command a Battalion, which is a Lieutenant Colonel's job. He may be
'frocked' (i.e., pin the silver leaves on) so he will at least 'look' like
a Battalion Commander.


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