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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:11:54 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
Dino's on West Higgins, not far from O'Hare. Forget the big stores like Lou Malnati's. Nothing as good as a "neighborhood" pizza. Thin crust, of course. The problem is things change. I had my favorite neighborhood thin crust place, but since I haven't had one from there for 5 years I can't recommend it.. Eduardo's usually has a good thin crust. Then there's personal taste. I'm a pizza "purist" in that I usually only wan't cheese and sausage pizza, though I can tolerate pepperoni occasionally. Thin crust and stuffed (Giordano's ain't bad) are totally different meals. But the bottom line to me on any pizza is crust, sauce, cheese. Cheese is the easiest - a quality moz, and those are the same. Crust, sausage and sauce are really personal preference. Especially sauce. Some prefer tart, some sweeter. The sauce makes the pizza more than anything. I've had many arguments with my wife about combo pizzas, because I don't want my pizza sullied with garbage like green peppers, onions or mushrooms. Those mask the aromas of a good sauce. She gave up and eats "my" kind of pizza now, otherwise we get a separate pizza for her preferences. She doesn't care much for pizza anyway. Just liked to argue about it. Mushrooms wouldn't be too bad since the taste is mild, but most joints will get too much of the juice the mushrooms are in on the pizza, which pollutes the sauce. A moderate amount of chopped and very well drained green olive is about the only add-on I kinda like. Crust is another personal preference, but most people agree on what's "good." There's a joint on the north side called Nancy's that uses corn flour and the crust was real good. Got those for some years but moved on when my taste changed for sauce, as Nancy's had a real tart sauce. Then there's that yuppie BS pizza with pineapple and other weird stuff. I can't count the times I was out with business people and didn't eat the crap pizza they ordered. I felt like smacking them down and kicking them a little, but that's not good for business. Lucky for me I'm not big on lunch and could just watch them pig out on that junk while I sipped coffee or a beer. Another thing that puzzles me is people who have found a good pizza, but try a different joint. Big mistake! You wait all week for a pizza and then take a chance to be disappointed? Crazy! Stay loyal to your chosen pizza joint! Only change if they change! --Vic |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:36:54 -0400, DownTime
wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Which is not to say that NY style pizza isn't good by the way. I just like a good Chicago pizza as well as a thin crust NY style pizza. It's scary, but I swear we must be related(I'm from CT, Stratford to be exact). I generally prefer thin-crust NY style, but good a Chicago pizza can be appreciated as well. You can get a good thin crust in Chicago. Only difference I've noticed is sausage is more popular in Chicago, pepperoni back east. Being from Chicago I don't automatically think deep dish or stuffed. Depends what you want. Lots of people here won't touch a fat pizza. They didn't even get popular until maybe the 70's. --Vic |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:
hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. I don't think any of these jokers have a real plan. Maybe Hillary did. I heard McCain talking a couple times about a 5 or 6 grand gov boost to offset insurance costs. Don't know if it's a credit or write-off. Why don't you do some research yourself if it concerns you? --Vic |
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On Aug 26, 5:00*pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message om... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast .com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:22:35 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. I don't think any of these jokers have a real plan. Maybe Hillary did. I heard McCain talking a couple times about a 5 or 6 grand gov boost to offset insurance costs. Don't know if it's a credit or write-off. Why don't you do some research yourself if it concerns you? --Vic He's already asking a source that knows everything. What more would you expect him to do? -- John *H* |
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JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. |
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On Aug 26, 5:39*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast .com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comca st.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. *Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. |
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JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. Nope. Not registered there or on any other candidate's site. |
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On Aug 26, 5:46*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comca st.com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@com cast.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. *Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. Nope. Not registered there or on any other candidate's site.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pfffftttt lobsta' boat! |
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On Aug 26, 5:46*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comca st.com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@com cast.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. *Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. Nope. Not registered there or on any other candidate's site. So let's assume you are calling me a liar and my initial experience with his website (the one you posted) never happened....................tee-hee......... Why would his initial page beg...err..........ask for a contribution to his campaign instead of bringing you directly to his home page? |
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On Aug 26, 5:52*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:46*pm, hk wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comca st.com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@com cast.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress.. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............. Sorry...........not the way I do business. *Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. Nope. Not registered there or on any other candidate's site. So let's assume you are calling me a liar and my initial experience with his website (the one you posted) never happened....................tee-hee......... Why would his initial page beg...err..........ask for a contribution to his campaign instead of bringing you directly to his home page?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - We know you are a liar, you have admitted to it here... |
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JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:46 pm, hk wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. Nope. Not registered there or on any other candidate's site. So let's assume you are calling me a liar and my initial experience with his website (the one you posted) never happened....................tee-hee......... Why would his initial page beg...err..........ask for a contribution to his campaign instead of bringing you directly to his home page? As I said, if you look at the upper right hand corner, you can get right off the beg page. |
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On Aug 26, 3:50 pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:47 pm, hk wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain Democratic proposals would help you with your problem. Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up and get back to us. Oh! There is a free lunch? D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious. All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. Now the Dems are going to give us free medical. Ain't America great. Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah, blah............. No plans to address any of those promises but they sound great..........to the ignorant. I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on. Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? :) Sounds interesting. So my wife and I will get free health care, a $1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes? Tell me more. Explain also how these plans are funded. Hey, that sounds good to me. Where do i sign up? |
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On Aug 26, 4:33 pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message om... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast .com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Paying to get into the movies? What a fund raiser! So THAT"S how they plan to kick back to everybody! |
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"JimH" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast .com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comca st.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. ====================================== Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough where there is a *Skip Signup* button. What I got a kick out of was the following: "Sign up now, and donate $15 or more to get the *official* Obama-Biden car magnet." |
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D.Duck wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. ====================================== Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough where there is a *Skip Signup* button. What I got a kick out of was the following: "Sign up now, and donate $15 or more to get the *official* Obama-Biden car magnet." I clicked on the McCain site and was offered an autographed photo of Jesus Christ or a french fry that looked like Jesus, from the Evangelical Subsupport Group of the Mindless Minions for more Bush. Problem is, the photo looked like a white guy with blue eyes and blond hair. :) |
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"JimH" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 5:46 pm, hk wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comca st.com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@com cast.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. Nope. Not registered there or on any other candidate's site. So let's assume you are calling me a liar and my initial experience with his website (the one you posted) never happened....................tee-hee......... Why would his initial page beg...err..........ask for a contribution to his campaign instead of bringing you directly to his home page? =========================== The first time I put barackobama.com in the address bar I was redirected to: https://donate.barackobama.com/page/.../splashsignup/ Subsequent barackobama.com entries went to barackobama.com. I'm sure this is accomplished using cookies. |
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"hk" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. ====================================== Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough where there is a *Skip Signup* button. What I got a kick out of was the following: "Sign up now, and donate $15 or more to get the *official* Obama-Biden car magnet." I clicked on the McCain site and was offered an autographed photo of Jesus Christ or a french fry that looked like Jesus, from the Evangelical Subsupport Group of the Mindless Minions for more Bush. Problem is, the photo looked like a white guy with blue eyes and blond hair. :) Both of them will have same/similar stuff on their web site, It's politics, man. |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:24:38 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
snipped =========================== The first time I put barackobama.com in the address bar I was redirected to: https://donate.barackobama.com/page/.../splashsignup/ Subsequent barackobama.com entries went to barackobama.com. I'm sure this is accomplished using cookies. try putting this in the address bar: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ Then just scroll down to start reading promises. Of course there's no mention of costs. But, if you're truly a messiah, miracles should be no problem. -- John *H* |
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On Aug 26, 8:16*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast .com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comca st.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. ====================================== Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough where there is a *Skip Signup* button. What I got a kick out of was the following: "Sign up now, and donate $15 or more to get the *official* Obama-Biden car magnet." Perhaps......... But why does it then take you to a plea for donations page? I know you understand my point...........or hope you do. |
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On Aug 26, 7:20 pm, hk wrote:
D.Duck wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comca st.com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@com cast.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. ====================================== Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough where there is a *Skip Signup* button. What I got a kick out of was the following: "Sign up now, and donate $15 or more to get the *official* Obama-Biden car magnet." I clicked on the McCain site and was offered an autographed photo of Jesus Christ or a french fry that looked like Jesus, from the Evangelical Subsupport Group of the Mindless Minions for more Bush. Problem is, the photo looked like a white guy with blue eyes and blond hair. :) Harry, if you trace to who actually owns that site it's actually Charles Shumer. ?: ^ Q |
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"JimH" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 8:16 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast .com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comca st.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. ====================================== Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough where there is a *Skip Signup* button. What I got a kick out of was the following: "Sign up now, and donate $15 or more to get the *official* Obama-Biden car magnet." Perhaps......... But why does it then take you to a plea for donations page? I know you understand my point...........or hope you do. ==================================== Surprised, no. Aggravating, yes. I sure would like to have one of those *official* car magnets. 8) These campaigns cost money. |
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Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote: NY or Chicago style? Chicago style is NOT pizza. Do you really want to start that debate? I suppose you prefer Sabrett over Vienna Beef, too? no, there is only one hotdog, and it is Hebrew. They answer to a higher authority. |
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"hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I read it. Did you. Explain to me how we are going to get any savings. $10 billion a year to put medical records on computer. Most doctors do this now. and if it is a government program, where is privacy? Save on drug costs by requiring pharma companies to give away free drugs. They do this now, and then they just have to raise prices to cover the give aways. Nothing, other than the ability to negotiate lower drug prices for Medicare is going to save the US any money. |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:11:54 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: Dino's on West Higgins, not far from O'Hare. Forget the big stores like Lou Malnati's. Nothing as good as a "neighborhood" pizza. Thin crust, of course. The problem is things change. I had my favorite neighborhood thin crust place, but since I haven't had one from there for 5 years I can't recommend it.. Eduardo's usually has a good thin crust. Then there's personal taste. I'm a pizza "purist" in that I usually only wan't cheese and sausage pizza, though I can tolerate pepperoni occasionally. Thin crust and stuffed (Giordano's ain't bad) are totally different meals. But the bottom line to me on any pizza is crust, sauce, cheese. Cheese is the easiest - a quality moz, and those are the same. Crust, sausage and sauce are really personal preference. Especially sauce. Some prefer tart, some sweeter. The sauce makes the pizza more than anything. I've had many arguments with my wife about combo pizzas, because I don't want my pizza sullied with garbage like green peppers, onions or mushrooms. Those mask the aromas of a good sauce. She gave up and eats "my" kind of pizza now, otherwise we get a separate pizza for her preferences. She doesn't care much for pizza anyway. Just liked to argue about it. Mushrooms wouldn't be too bad since the taste is mild, but most joints will get too much of the juice the mushrooms are in on the pizza, which pollutes the sauce. A moderate amount of chopped and very well drained green olive is about the only add-on I kinda like. Crust is another personal preference, but most people agree on what's "good." There's a joint on the north side called Nancy's that uses corn flour and the crust was real good. Got those for some years but moved on when my taste changed for sauce, as Nancy's had a real tart sauce. Then there's that yuppie BS pizza with pineapple and other weird stuff. I can't count the times I was out with business people and didn't eat the crap pizza they ordered. I felt like smacking them down and kicking them a little, but that's not good for business. Lucky for me I'm not big on lunch and could just watch them pig out on that junk while I sipped coffee or a beer. Another thing that puzzles me is people who have found a good pizza, but try a different joint. Big mistake! You wait all week for a pizza and then take a chance to be disappointed? Crazy! Stay loyal to your chosen pizza joint! Only change if they change! --Vic We have a great pizza joint in the area. Amichi's. http://www.amicis.com/ But probably the best pizza I ever had was in Rome near the Vatican. An olive oil, no tomato base for the cheese. Fantastic crust. And most pizza in Italy is ordinary at best. |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:01:26 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:11:54 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: Dino's on West Higgins, not far from O'Hare. Forget the big stores like Lou Malnati's. Nothing as good as a "neighborhood" pizza. Thin crust, of course. The problem is things change. I had my favorite neighborhood thin crust place, but since I haven't had one from there for 5 years I can't recommend it.. Eduardo's usually has a good thin crust. Then there's personal taste. I'm a pizza "purist" in that I usually only wan't cheese and sausage pizza, though I can tolerate pepperoni occasionally. Thin crust and stuffed (Giordano's ain't bad) are totally different meals. But the bottom line to me on any pizza is crust, sauce, cheese. Cheese is the easiest - a quality moz, and those are the same. Crust, sausage and sauce are really personal preference. Especially sauce. Some prefer tart, some sweeter. The sauce makes the pizza more than anything. I've had many arguments with my wife about combo pizzas, because I don't want my pizza sullied with garbage like green peppers, onions or mushrooms. Those mask the aromas of a good sauce. She gave up and eats "my" kind of pizza now, otherwise we get a separate pizza for her preferences. She doesn't care much for pizza anyway. Just liked to argue about it. Mushrooms wouldn't be too bad since the taste is mild, but most joints will get too much of the juice the mushrooms are in on the pizza, which pollutes the sauce. A moderate amount of chopped and very well drained green olive is about the only add-on I kinda like. Crust is another personal preference, but most people agree on what's "good." There's a joint on the north side called Nancy's that uses corn flour and the crust was real good. Got those for some years but moved on when my taste changed for sauce, as Nancy's had a real tart sauce. Then there's that yuppie BS pizza with pineapple and other weird stuff. I can't count the times I was out with business people and didn't eat the crap pizza they ordered. I felt like smacking them down and kicking them a little, but that's not good for business. Lucky for me I'm not big on lunch and could just watch them pig out on that junk while I sipped coffee or a beer. Another thing that puzzles me is people who have found a good pizza, but try a different joint. Big mistake! You wait all week for a pizza and then take a chance to be disappointed? Crazy! Stay loyal to your chosen pizza joint! Only change if they change! --Vic We have a great pizza joint in the area. Amichi's. http://www.amicis.com/ But probably the best pizza I ever had was in Rome near the Vatican. An olive oil, no tomato base for the cheese. Fantastic crust. And most pizza in Italy is ordinary at best. We went to a little Italian pizzeria while in Como, Italy. The pizza sucked. Ledo's pizza is the best. There's no two ways about it. So, y'all can quit arguing. -- John *H* |
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"hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: (Snipped only for brevity) I had read his plan before, and I don't find fault with much of it, except it is going to create another federal bureaucracy which will, of course, make it more complicated, costly and screwed up as usual in a short period of time. But, it's a start. Not too much different than the state plan here in MA, instituted by Romney ...... a Republican. Eisboch |
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"JimH" wrote in message ... Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. ------------------------ I just tried it. The "skip donation, go directly to website" button was there, but on the lower right. Clicked it and it bypassed all the zip code, donation requests. Eisboch |
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"hk" wrote in message . .. As I said, if you look at the upper right hand corner, you can get right off the beg page. Maybe they changed it. It's there, but not at the upper right hand corner. It's on the lower, right hand side. But, you are correct. It takes you right to his website, skipping the sign in stuff. I think JimH is in error here. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. As I said, if you look at the upper right hand corner, you can get right off the beg page. Maybe they changed it. It's there, but not at the upper right hand corner. It's on the lower, right hand side. But, you are correct. It takes you right to his website, skipping the sign in stuff. I think JimH is in error here. Eisboch It's the peripatetic log on mover arounder... -- No way, no how, no McCain! |
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"D.Duck" wrote in message ... The first time I put barackobama.com in the address bar I was redirected to: https://donate.barackobama.com/page/.../splashsignup/ Subsequent barackobama.com entries went to barackobama.com. I'm sure this is accomplished using cookies. Repeating myself, but that site page, to which I had never gone before, has a "skip signup on the lower right. Here's a screen capture of it: http://www.eisboch.com/obamasite.jpg Eisboch |
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On Aug 26, 8:29*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 8:16*pm, "D.Duck" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast .com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comca st.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress.. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............. Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. ====================================== Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough where there is a *Skip Signup* button. What I got a kick out of was the following: "Sign up now, and donate $15 or more to get the *official* Obama-Biden car magnet." Perhaps......... But why does it then take you to a plea for donations page? I know you understand my point...........or hope you do.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It may be because politicians use donations in one form or another to fund their campaigns? Ya think? |
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On Aug 26, 5:33*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00*pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message om... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast .com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. *Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pssst...... you don't have to give ANY information. There's a HUGE button that says skip this info...... |
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On Aug 26, 5:52*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:46*pm, hk wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comca st.com... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@com cast.com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress.. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............. Sorry...........not the way I do business. *Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there, click on issues. Scroll down to health care. No donations, no names, no video. Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com. You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to donate to him. Nope. Not registered there or on any other candidate's site. So let's assume you are calling me a liar and my initial experience with his website (the one you posted) never happened....................tee-hee......... Why would his initial page beg...err..........ask for a contribution to his campaign instead of bringing you directly to his home page?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Damn, this lover's spat is getting good!!!! |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... The first time I put barackobama.com in the address bar I was redirected to: https://donate.barackobama.com/page/.../splashsignup/ Subsequent barackobama.com entries went to barackobama.com. I'm sure this is accomplished using cookies. Repeating myself, but that site page, to which I had never gone before, has a "skip signup on the lower right. Here's a screen capture of it: http://www.eisboch.com/obamasite.jpg Eisboch I totally agree, that's exactly what I saw. |
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D.Duck wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... The first time I put barackobama.com in the address bar I was redirected to: https://donate.barackobama.com/page/.../splashsignup/ Subsequent barackobama.com entries went to barackobama.com. I'm sure this is accomplished using cookies. Repeating myself, but that site page, to which I had never gone before, has a "skip signup on the lower right. Here's a screen capture of it: http://www.eisboch.com/obamasite.jpg Eisboch I totally agree, that's exactly what I saw. So, it didn't work the first time for JimH. Or maybe he just didn't see the button. It's no biggie. -- No way, no how, no McCain! |
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:09:56 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... wrote: From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: (Snipped only for brevity) I had read his plan before, and I don't find fault with much of it, except it is going to create another federal bureaucracy which will, of course, make it more complicated, costly and screwed up as usual in a short period of time. But, it's a start. Not too much different than the state plan here in MA, instituted by Romney ...... a Republican. The last I heard, the base line cost went up significantly and the plan is costing twice what they thought it would. True? |
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On Aug 27, 8:44*am, hk wrote:
D.Duck wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "D.Duck" wrote in message om... The first time I put barackobama.com in the address bar I was redirected to: https://donate.barackobama.com/page/.../splashsignup/ Subsequent barackobama.com *entries went to barackobama.com. I'm sure this is accomplished using cookies. Repeating myself, but that site page, to which I had never gone before, has a "skip signup on the lower right. Here's a screen capture of it: http://www.eisboch.com/obamasite.jpg Eisboch I totally agree, that's exactly what I saw. So, it didn't work the first time for JimH. Or maybe he just didn't see the button. It's no biggie. -- No way, no how, no McCain!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, you'd jump on somebody in a minute for the same thing if it wasn't your lover/clone JimH. |
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