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HK August 26th 08 04:01 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I
think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ

If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no idea
of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain Democratic
proposals would help you with your problem.

Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If you
did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up and get
back to us.

You continuously post stuff here trying to defame the Repubs, why don't you
post some of the "good" things the Dems are proposing.




1. A duck in every pot.


P.S. No need to "defame" the Republicans. They've done it all by themselves.

[email protected] August 26th 08 04:01 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.

And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ

We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.








D.Duck August 26th 08 04:07 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ

If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.

Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.

You continuously post stuff here trying to defame the Repubs, why don't
you post some of the "good" things the Dems are proposing.


1. A duck in every pot.


P.S. No need to "defame" the Republicans. They've done it all by
themselves.

Another one of your patented non-answers.



HK August 26th 08 04:12 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ

We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.





Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama
plan will have the following features:
1. Guaranteed eligibility. No American will be turned away
from any insurance plan because of illness or pre-existing conditions.
2. Comprehensive benefits. The benefit package will be similar
to that offered through Federal Employees Health Benefits Program
(FEHBP), the plan members of Congress have. The plan will cover all
essential medical services, including preventive, maternity and mental
health care.
3. Affordable premiums, co-pays and deductibles.
4. Subsidies. Individuals and families who do not qualify for
Medicaid or SCHIP but still need financial assistance will receive an
income-related federal subsidy to buy into the new public plan or
purchase a private health care plan.
5. Simplified paperwork and reined in health costs.
6. Easy enrollment. The new public plan will be simple to
enroll in and provide ready access to coverage.
7. Portability and choice. Participants in the new public plan
and the National Health Insurance Exchange (see below) will be able to
move from job to job without changing or jeopardizing their health care
coverage.
8. Quality and efficiency. Participating insurance companies
in the new public program will be required to report data to ensure that
standards for quality, health information technology and administration
are being met.
* National Health Insurance Exchange: The Obama plan will create a
National Health Insurance Exchange to help individuals who wish to
purchase a private insurance plan. The Exchange will act as a watchdog
group and help reform the private insurance market by creating rules and
standards for participating insurance plans to ensure fairness and to
make individual coverage more affordable and accessible. Insurers would
have to issue every applicant a policy, and charge fair and stable
premiums that will not depend upon health status. The Exchange will
require that all the plans offered are at least as generous as the new
public plan and have the same standards for quality and efficiency. The
Exchange would evaluate plans and make the differences among the plans,
including cost of services, public.
* Employer Contribution: Employers that do not offer or make a
meaningful contribution to the cost of quality health coverage for their
employees will be required to contribute a percentage of payroll toward
the costs of the national plan. Small businesses will be exempt from
this requirement, and will receive a new Small Business Health Tax
Credit that helps reduce health care costs for small businesses.
* Support for Small Businesses: Barack Obama will create a Small
Business Health Tax Credit to provide small businesses with a refundable
tax credit of up to 50 percent on premiums paid by small businesses on
behalf of their employees. This new credit will provide a strong
incentive to small businesses to offer high quality health care to their
workers and help improve the competitiveness of America’s small businesses.
* Mandatory Coverage of Children: Obama will require that all
children have health care coverage. Obama will expand the number of
options for young adults to get coverage, including allowing young
people up to age 25 to continue coverage through their parents' plans.
* Expansion Of Medicaid and SCHIP: Obama will expand eligibility
for the Medicaid and SCHIP programs and ensure that these programs
continue to serve their critical safety net function.
* Flexibility for State Plans: Due to federal inaction, some states
have taken the lead in health care reform. The Obama plan builds on
these efforts and does not replace what states are doing. States can
continue to experiment, provided they meet the minimum standards of the
national plan.

Lower Costs by Modernizing The U.S. Health Care System

* Reducing Costs of Catastrophic Illnesses for Employers and Their
Employees: Catastrophic health expenditures account for a high
percentage of medical expenses for private insurers. The Obama plan
would reimburse employer health plans for a portion of the catastrophic
costs they incur above a threshold if they guarantee such savings are
used to reduce the cost of workers' premiums.
* Helping Patients:
1. Support disease management programs. Seventy five percent
of total health care dollars are spent on patients with one or more
chronic conditions, such as diabetes, heart disease and high blood
pressure. Obama will require that providers that participate in the new
public plan, Medicare or the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program
(FEHBP) utilize proven disease management programs. This will improve
quality of care, give doctors better information and lower costs.
2. Coordinate and integrate care. Over 133 million Americans
have at least one chronic disease and these chronic conditions cost a
staggering $1.7 trillion yearly. Obama will support implementation of
programs and encourage team care that will improve coordination and
integration of care of those with chronic conditions.
3. Require full transparency about quality and costs. Obama
will require hospitals and providers to collect and publicly report
measures of health care costs and quality, including data on preventable
medical errors, nurse staffing ratios, hospital-acquired infections, and
disparities in care. Health plans will also be required to disclose the
percentage of premiums that go to patient care as opposed to
administrative costs.
* Ensuring Providers Deliver Quality Ca
1. Promote patient safety. Obama will require providers to
report preventable medical errors and support hospital and physician
practice improvement to prevent future occurrences.
2. Align incentives for excellence. Both public and private
insurers tend to pay providers based on the volume of services provided,
rather than the quality or effectiveness of care. Providers who see
patients enrolled in the new public plan, the National Health Insurance
Exchange, Medicare and FEHBP will be rewarded for achieving performance
thresholds on outcome measures.
3. Comparative effectiveness research. Obama will establish an
independent institute to guide reviews and research on comparative
effectiveness, so that Americans and their doctors will have the
accurate and objective information they need to make the best decisions
for their health and well-being.
4. Tackle disparities in health care. Obama will tackle the
root causes of health disparities by addressing differences in access to
health coverage and promoting prevention and public health, both of
which play a major role in addressing disparities. He will also
challenge the medical system to eliminate inequities in health care
through quality measurement and reporting, implementation of effective
interventions such as patient navigation programs, and diversification
of the health workforce.
5. Insurance reform. Obama will strengthen antitrust laws to
prevent insurers from overcharging physicians for their malpractice
insurance and will promote new models for addressing errors that improve
patient safety, strengthen the doctor-patient relationship and reduce
the need for malpractice suits.
* Lowering Costs Through Investment in Electronic Health
Information Technology Systems: Most medical records are still stored on
paper, which makes it hard to coordinate care, measure quality or reduce
medical errors and which costs twice as much as electronic claims. Obama
will invest $10 billion a year over the next five years to move the U.S.
health care system to broad adoption of standards-based electronic
health information systems, including electronic health records, and
will phase in requirements for full implementation of health IT. Obama
will ensure that patients' privacy is protected.
* Lowering Costs by Increasing Competition in the Insurance and
Drug Markets: The insurance business today is dominated by a small group
of large companies that has been gobbling up their rivals. There have
been over 400 health care mergers in the last 10 years, and just two
companies dominate a full third of the national market. These changes
were supposed to make the industry more efficient, but instead premiums
have skyrocketed by over 87 percent.
1. Barack Obama will prevent companies from abusing their
monopoly power through unjustified price increases. His plan will force
insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums for patient
care instead of keeping exorbitant amounts for profits and
administration. His new National Health Exchange will help increase
competition by insurers.
2. Lower prescription drug costs. The second-fastest growing
type of health expenses is prescription drugs. Pharmaceutical companies
are selling the exact same drugs in Europe and Canada but charging
Americans more than double the price. Obama will allow Americans to buy
their medicines from other developed countries if the drugs are safe and
prices are lower outside the U.S. Obama will also repeal the ban that
prevents the government from negotiating with drug companies, which
could result in savings as high as $30 billion. Finally, Obama will work
to increase the use of generic drugs in Medicare, Medicaid, and FEHBP
and prohibit big name drug companies from keeping generics out of markets.

Fight for New Initiatives

* Advance the Biomedical Research Field: As a result of biomedical
research the prevention, early detection and treatment of diseases such
as cancer and heart disease is better today than any other time in
history. Barack Obama has consistently supported funding for the
national institutes of health and the national science foundation. Obama
strongly supports investments in biomedical research, as well as medical
education and training in health-related fields, because it provides the
foundation for new therapies and diagnostics. Obama has been a champion
of research in cancer, mental health, health disparities, global health,
women and children's health, and veterans' health. As president, Obama
will strengthen funding for biomedical research, and better improve the
efficiency of that research by improving coordination both within
government and across government/private/non-profit partnerships. An
Obama administration will ensure that we translate scientific progress
into improved approaches to disease prevention, early detection and
therapy that is available for all Americans.
* Fight AIDS Worldwide. There are 33 million people across the
planet infected with HIV/AIDS. As president, Obama will continue to be a
global leader in the fight against AIDS. Obama believes in working
across party lines to combat this epidemic and recently joined Senator
Sam Brownback (R-KS) at a large California evangelical church to promote
greater investment in the global AIDS battle.
* Support Americans with Disabilities: As a former civil rights
lawyer, Barack Obama knows firsthand the importance of strong
protections for minority communities in our society. Obama is committed
to strengthening and better enforcing the Americans with Disabilities
Act (ADA) so that future generations of Americans with disabilities have
equal rights and opportunities. Obama believes we must restore the
original legislative intent of the ADA in the wake of court decisions
that have restricted the interpretation of this landmark legislation.

Barack Obama is also committed to ensuring that disabled
Americans receive Medicaid and Medicare benefits in a low-cost,
effective and timely manner. Recognizing that many individuals with
disabilities rely on Medicare, Obama worked with Senator Ken Salazar
(D-CO) to urge the department of health and human services to provide
clear and reliable information on the Medicare prescription drug benefit
and to ensure that the Medicare recipients were protected from
fraudulent claims by marketers and drug plan agents.
* Improve Mental Health Care. Mental illness affects approximately
one in five American families. The National Alliance on Mental Illness
estimates that untreated mental illnesses cost the U.S. more than $100
billion per year. As president, Obama will support mental health parity
so that coverage for serious mental illnesses are provided on the same
terms and conditions as other illnesses and diseases.
* Protect Our Children from Lead Poisoning. More than 430,000
American children have dangerously high levels of lead in their blood.
Lead can cause irreversible brain damage, learning disabilities,
behavioral problems, and, at very high levels, seizures, coma and death.
As president, Obama will protect children from lead poisoning by
requiring that child care facilities be lead-safe within five years.
* Reduce Risks of Mercury Pollution. More than five million women
of childbearing age have high levels of toxic mercury in their blood,
and approximately 630,000 newborns are born at risk every year. Barack
Obama has a plan to significantly reduce the amount of mercury that is
deposited in oceans, lakes, and rivers, which in turn would reduce the
amount of mercury in fish.
* Support Americans with Autism. More than one million Americans
have autism, a complex neurobiological condition that has a range of
impacts on thinking, feeling, language, and the ability to relate to
others. As diagnostic criteria broaden and awareness increases, more
cases of autism have been recognized across the country. Barack Obama
believes that we can do more to help autistic Americans and their
families understand and live with autism. He has been a strong supporter
of more than $1 billion in federal funding for autism research on the
root causes and treatments, and he believes that we should increase
funding for the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act to truly
ensure that no child is left behind.

More than anything, autism remains a profound mystery with a
broad spectrum of effects on autistic individuals, their families, loved
ones, the community, and education and health care systems. Obama
believes that the government and our communities should work together to
provide a helping hand to autistic individuals and their families.

Barack Obama's Record

* Health Insurance: In 2003, Barack Obama sponsored and passed
legislation that expanded health care coverage to 70,000 kids and 84,000
adults. In the U.S. Senate, Obama cosponsored the Healthy Kids Act of
2007 and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP)
Reauthorization Act of 2007 to ensure that more American children have
affordable health care coverage.
* Women's Health: Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois
and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments
include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater
access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve
prenatal and premature birth services.

For More Information about Barack's Plan

Read the Plan
Read the Frequently-Asked Q and A
Read the Speech




Read the HIV/AIDS Agenda

HK August 26th 08 04:15 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.

Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
You continuously post stuff here trying to defame the Repubs, why don't
you post some of the "good" things the Dems are proposing.

1. A duck in every pot.


P.S. No need to "defame" the Republicans. They've done it all by
themselves.

Another one of your patented non-answers.


Typically, I base my responses on my opinions of the poster.

You're pretty much in the "Reggie" category, though not in the dumpster.

Quack, quack, quack.

D.Duck August 26th 08 04:27 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing
serious out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I
have no idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how
certain Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.

Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of
the health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting.
If you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study
up and get back to us.
You continuously post stuff here trying to defame the Repubs, why don't
you post some of the "good" things the Dems are proposing.

1. A duck in every pot.


P.S. No need to "defame" the Republicans. They've done it all by
themselves.

Another one of your patented non-answers.


Typically, I base my responses on my opinions of the poster.

You're pretty much in the "Reggie" category, though not in the dumpster.

Quack, quack, quack.

Got it....



Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 26th 08 04:28 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:36:54 -0400, DownTime
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Which is not to say that NY style pizza isn't good by the way.

I just like a good Chicago pizza as well as a thin crust NY style
pizza.

It's scary, but I swear we must be related(I'm from CT, Stratford to be
exact). I generally prefer thin-crust NY style, but good a Chicago pizza
can be appreciated as well.

Hey - could be my long lost brother from another mother. I've had
weirder things happen to me in my life. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 26th 08 04:31 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:01:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:14:22 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:52:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

DownTime wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 25, 9:38 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 25, 6:57 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
snerk
Eisboch
i just got back from a church men's meeting.
What'd I miss?
Pelosi talked about a bicycle in every garage and a pizza in every
oven.
Pizza? That's not bad, but will it have any more than just "cheese" on
it?
PIZZA for everyone! Sure, I'll bite, but first they need to answer this:

NY or Chicago style?
Chicago style is NOT pizza.
Whic only goes to show that you have no knowledge what so ever of good
pizza.
You da man....

Which is not to say that NY style pizza isn't good by the way.

I just like a good Chicago pizza as well as a thin crust NY style
pizza.

I enjoy Chicago style, it just isn't pizza. It is a very tasty casserole.

I hate to tell you this, but you are wrong and i am right.

1 - I am never wrong.

2 - I am never wrong twice.

3 - You have never been right about anything in your life. :)

Ipsoid Factoid - end of story.

HK August 26th 08 05:29 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


1 - I am never wrong.

2 - I am never wrong twice.

3 - You have never been right about anything in your life. :)

Ipsoid Factoid - end of story.



But that *is* your tao.

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. August 26th 08 06:07 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:01:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:14:22 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:52:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

DownTime wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 25, 9:38 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 25, 6:57 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
snerk
Eisboch
i just got back from a church men's meeting.
What'd I miss?
Pelosi talked about a bicycle in every garage and a pizza in every
oven.
Pizza? That's not bad, but will it have any more than just "cheese" on
it?
PIZZA for everyone! Sure, I'll bite, but first they need to answer this:

NY or Chicago style?
Chicago style is NOT pizza.
Whic only goes to show that you have no knowledge what so ever of good
pizza.
You da man....
Which is not to say that NY style pizza isn't good by the way.

I just like a good Chicago pizza as well as a thin crust NY style
pizza.
I enjoy Chicago style, it just isn't pizza. It is a very tasty casserole.

I hate to tell you this, but you are wrong and i am right.

1 - I am never wrong.

2 - I am never wrong twice.

3 - You have never been right about anything in your life. :)

Ipsoid Factoid - end of story.

Prove that I have never been right about anything in my life.

I did say Chicago Style was tasty, it just was a casserole, not a pizza.

There i was right about two things.

[email protected] August 26th 08 06:10 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
On Aug 26, 1:07*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:01:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:14:22 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:52:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

DownTime wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 25, 9:38 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 25, 6:57 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
snerk
Eisboch
i just got back from a church men's meeting.
What'd I miss?
Pelosi talked about a bicycle in every garage and a pizza in every
oven.
Pizza? That's not bad, but will it have any more than just "cheese" on
it?
PIZZA for everyone! Sure, I'll bite, but first they need to answer this:

NY or Chicago style?
Chicago style is NOT pizza.
Whic only goes to show that you have no knowledge what so ever of good
pizza.
You da man....
Which is not to say that NY style pizza isn't good by the way.

I just like a good Chicago pizza as well as a thin crust NY style
pizza.
I enjoy Chicago style, it just isn't pizza. *It is a very tasty casserole.

I hate to tell you this, but you are wrong and i am right.

1 - I am never wrong.

2 - I am never wrong twice.

3 - You have never been right about anything in your life. *:)

Ipsoid Factoid - end of story.

Prove that I have never been right about anything in my life.

I did say Chicago Style was tasty, it just was a casserole, not a pizza.

There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. August 26th 08 06:14 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:07 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:01:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:14:22 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:52:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:
DownTime wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 25, 9:38 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 25, 6:57 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
snerk
Eisboch
i just got back from a church men's meeting.
What'd I miss?
Pelosi talked about a bicycle in every garage and a pizza in every
oven.
Pizza? That's not bad, but will it have any more than just "cheese" on
it?
PIZZA for everyone! Sure, I'll bite, but first they need to answer this:
NY or Chicago style?
Chicago style is NOT pizza.
Whic only goes to show that you have no knowledge what so ever of good
pizza.
You da man....
Which is not to say that NY style pizza isn't good by the way.
I just like a good Chicago pizza as well as a thin crust NY style
pizza.
I enjoy Chicago style, it just isn't pizza. It is a very tasty casserole.
I hate to tell you this, but you are wrong and i am right.
1 - I am never wrong.
2 - I am never wrong twice.
3 - You have never been right about anything in your life. :)
Ipsoid Factoid - end of story.
Prove that I have never been right about anything in my life.

I did say Chicago Style was tasty, it just was a casserole, not a pizza.

There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)

Sorry, thanks for the head's up.

Hey Tom, you misspelled "Which" and "the", and Ipso Facto (unless you
are talking about an IPOD) did you get past 3rd grade or what! ;)



Just, is that better?

[email protected] August 26th 08 06:20 PM
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There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)

Sorry, thanks for the head's up.

Hey Tom, you misspelled "Which" *and "the", and Ipso Facto (unless you
are talking about an IPOD) did you get past 3rd grade or what! *;)

Just, is that better?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I dunno' I can't spell for ****, but I know "I" is "I" not "i"... ;)

[email protected] August 26th 08 06:22 PM
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On Aug 26, 1:14*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:07 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:01:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:14:22 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:g908b41u0jj73ua4fjt8v1n208hhe51fam@4ax. com...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:52:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:
DownTime wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 25, 9:38 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 25, 6:57 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
snerk
Eisboch
i just got back from a church men's meeting.
What'd I miss?
Pelosi talked about a bicycle in every garage and a pizza in every
oven.
Pizza? That's not bad, but will it have any more than just "cheese" on
it?
PIZZA for everyone! Sure, I'll bite, but first they need to answer this:
NY or Chicago style?
Chicago style is NOT pizza.
Whic only goes to show that you have no knowledge what so ever of good
pizza.
You da man....
Which is not to say that NY style pizza isn't good by the way.
I just like a good Chicago pizza as well as a thin crust NY style
pizza.
I enjoy Chicago style, it just isn't pizza. *It is a very tasty casserole.
I hate to tell you this, but you are wrong and i am right.
1 - I am never wrong.
2 - I am never wrong twice.
3 - You have never been right about anything in your life. *:)
Ipsoid Factoid - end of story.
Prove that I have never been right about anything in my life.

I did say Chicago Style was tasty, it just was a casserole, not a pizza.

There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)

Sorry, thanks for the head's up.

Hey Tom, you misspelled "Which" *and "the", and Ipso Facto (unless you
are talking about an IPOD) did you get past 3rd grade or what! *;)

Just, is that better?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh, BTW, short-pants did not misspell anything, it was a test, and you
were not supposed to tell;)

HK August 26th 08 06:42 PM
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wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:14 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:07 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:01:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:14:22 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:52:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:
DownTime wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 25, 9:38 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 25, 6:57 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
snerk
Eisboch
i just got back from a church men's meeting.
What'd I miss?
Pelosi talked about a bicycle in every garage and a pizza in every
oven.
Pizza? That's not bad, but will it have any more than just "cheese" on
it?
PIZZA for everyone! Sure, I'll bite, but first they need to answer this:
NY or Chicago style?
Chicago style is NOT pizza.
Whic only goes to show that you have no knowledge what so ever of good
pizza.
You da man....
Which is not to say that NY style pizza isn't good by the way.
I just like a good Chicago pizza as well as a thin crust NY style
pizza.
I enjoy Chicago style, it just isn't pizza. It is a very tasty casserole.
I hate to tell you this, but you are wrong and i am right.
1 - I am never wrong.
2 - I am never wrong twice.
3 - You have never been right about anything in your life. :)
Ipsoid Factoid - end of story.
Prove that I have never been right about anything in my life.
I did say Chicago Style was tasty, it just was a casserole, not a pizza.
There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)
Sorry, thanks for the head's up.

Hey Tom, you misspelled "Which" and "the", and Ipso Facto (unless you
are talking about an IPOD) did you get past 3rd grade or what! ;)

Just, is that better?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh, BTW, short-pants did not misspell anything, it was a test, and you
were not supposed to tell;)


Were you retained to grade the test? What does that mean, everyone
passed to the fourth grade?

HK August 26th 08 06:46 PM
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wrote:
There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)
Sorry, thanks for the head's up.

Hey Tom, you misspelled "Which" and "the", and Ipso Facto (unless you
are talking about an IPOD) did you get past 3rd grade or what! ;)

Just, is that better?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I dunno' I can't spell for ****, but I know "I" is "I" not "i"... ;)



You don't *know* schitt, either:


may i feel said he
(i'll squeal said she
just once said he)
it's fun said she


(may i touch said he
how much said she
a lot said he)
why not said she


(let's go said he
not too far said she
what's too far said he
where you are said she)


may i stay said he
(which way said she
like this said he
if you kiss said she


may i move said he
is it love said she)
if you're willing said he
(but you're killing said she


but it's life said he
but your wife said she
now said he)
ow said she


(tiptop said he
don't stop said she
oh no said he)
go slow said she


(cccome?said he
ummm said she)
you're divine!said he
(you are Mine said she)

e.e. cummings

Calif Bill August 26th 08 07:39 PM
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"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.

And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I
think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ


If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no idea
of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain Democratic
proposals would help you with your problem.

Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If you
did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up and get
back to us.

Oh! There is a free lunch?



HK August 26th 08 07:42 PM
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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I
think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ

If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no idea
of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain Democratic
proposals would help you with your problem.

Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If you
did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up and get
back to us.

Oh! There is a free lunch?



D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.

Calif Bill August 26th 08 07:43 PM
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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ

We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.


Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available
a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed
and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to
the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the
following features:


Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims
and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the
state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included
Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html

HK August 26th 08 07:46 PM
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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.

Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available
a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed
and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to
the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the
following features:


Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims
and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the
state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included
Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html




snerk

[email protected] August 26th 08 07:53 PM
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On Aug 26, 1:46*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)
Sorry, thanks for the head's up.

Hey Tom, you misspelled "Which" *and "the", and Ipso Facto (unless you
are talking about an IPOD) did you get past 3rd grade or what! *;)

Just, is that better?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I dunno' I can't spell for ****, but I know "I" is "I" not "i"... ;)

You don't *know* schitt, either:

may i feel said he
* * (i'll squeal said she
* * just once said he)
* * it's fun said she

* * (may i touch said he
* * how much said she
* * a lot said he)
* * why not said she

* * (let's go said he
* * not too far said she
* * what's too far said he
* * where you are said she)

* * may i stay said he
* * (which way said she
* * like this said he
* * if you kiss said she

* * may i move said he
* * is it love said she)
* * if you're willing said he
* * (but you're killing said she

* * but it's life said he
* * but your wife said she
* * now said he)
* * ow said she

* * (tiptop said he
* * don't stop said she
* * oh no said he)
* * go slow said she

* * (cccome?said he
* * ummm said she)
* * you're divine!said he
* * (you are Mine said she)

* * * * * *e.e. cummings

Psssst, Harry, properly written English and prose are two completely
different things.

[email protected] August 26th 08 07:54 PM
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On Aug 26, 1:07*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:01:19 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:14:22 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:52:08 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

DownTime wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 25, 9:38 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 25, 6:57 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
snerk
Eisboch
i just got back from a church men's meeting.
What'd I miss?
Pelosi talked about a bicycle in every garage and a pizza in every
oven.
Pizza? That's not bad, but will it have any more than just "cheese" on
it?
PIZZA for everyone! Sure, I'll bite, but first they need to answer this:

NY or Chicago style?
Chicago style is NOT pizza.
Whic only goes to show that you have no knowledge what so ever of good
pizza.
You da man....
Which is not to say that NY style pizza isn't good by the way.

I just like a good Chicago pizza as well as a thin crust NY style
pizza.
I enjoy Chicago style, it just isn't pizza. *It is a very tasty casserole.

I hate to tell you this, but you are wrong and i am right.

1 - I am never wrong.

2 - I am never wrong twice.

3 - You have never been right about anything in your life. *:)

Ipsoid Factoid - end of story.

Prove that I have never been right about anything in my life.

I did say Chicago Style was tasty, it just was a casserole, not a pizza.

There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And I agree with you!

[email protected] August 26th 08 07:56 PM
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On Aug 26, 2:53*pm, wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:46*pm, hk wrote:





wrote:
There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)
Sorry, thanks for the head's up.

Hey Tom, you misspelled "Which" *and "the", and Ipso Facto (unless you
are talking about an IPOD) did you get past 3rd grade or what! *;)

Just, is that better?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I dunno' I can't spell for ****, but I know "I" is "I" not "i"... ;)

You don't *know* schitt, either:

may i feel said he
* * (i'll squeal said she
* * just once said he)
* * it's fun said she

* * (may i touch said he
* * how much said she
* * a lot said he)
* * why not said she

* * (let's go said he
* * not too far said she
* * what's too far said he
* * where you are said she)

* * may i stay said he
* * (which way said she
* * like this said he
* * if you kiss said she

* * may i move said he
* * is it love said she)
* * if you're willing said he
* * (but you're killing said she

* * but it's life said he
* * but your wife said she
* * now said he)
* * ow said she

* * (tiptop said he
* * don't stop said she
* * oh no said he)
* * go slow said she

* * (cccome?said he
* * ummm said she)
* * you're divine!said he
* * (you are Mine said she)

* * * * * *e.e. cummings

Psssst, Harry, properly written English and prose are two completely
different things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Shhhhh, facts don't count...only little fabricated victories;)

HK August 26th 08 08:09 PM
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wrote:
On Aug 26, 2:53 pm, wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:46 pm, hk wrote:





wrote:
There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)
Sorry, thanks for the head's up.
Hey Tom, you misspelled "Which" and "the", and Ipso Facto (unless you
are talking about an IPOD) did you get past 3rd grade or what! ;)
Just, is that better?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I dunno' I can't spell for ****, but I know "I" is "I" not "i"... ;)
You don't *know* schitt, either:
may i feel said he
(i'll squeal said she
just once said he)
it's fun said she
(may i touch said he
how much said she
a lot said he)
why not said she
(let's go said he
not too far said she
what's too far said he
where you are said she)
may i stay said he
(which way said she
like this said he
if you kiss said she
may i move said he
is it love said she)
if you're willing said he
(but you're killing said she
but it's life said he
but your wife said she
now said he)
ow said she
(tiptop said he
don't stop said she
oh no said he)
go slow said she
(cccome?said he
ummm said she)
you're divine!said he
(you are Mine said she)
e.e. cummings
Psssst, Harry, properly written English and prose are two completely
different things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Shhhhh, facts don't count...only little fabricated victories;)


"properly written English and prose are two completely different things..."

snerk

What the hell does *that* mean? It means...nothing.


You and your buddy Loogy are ignorant asses. Cummings' poems were
"properly written English." The point, which both you idiots missed, was
that someone skilled in the language, as was Cummings, can twist it any
way he or she likes, and it will still be proper English.

You two "misuse" the language because you don't know better.

Here's someone who does:

Driving a cardboard automobile without a license

Driving a cardboard automobile without a license
at the turn of the century
my father ran into my mother
on a fun-ride at Coney Island
having spied each other eating
in a French boardinghouse nearby
And having decided right there and then
that she was right for him entirely
he followed her into
the playland of that evening
where the headlong meeting
of their ephemeral flesh on wheels
hurtled them forever together


And I now in the back seat
of their eternity
reaching out to embrace them

Lawrence Ferlinghetti

[email protected] August 26th 08 08:32 PM
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On Aug 26, 3:09*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 26, 2:53 pm, wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:46 pm, hk wrote:

wrote:
There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)
Sorry, thanks for the head's up.
Hey Tom, you misspelled "Which" *and "the", and Ipso Facto (unless you
are talking about an IPOD) did you get past 3rd grade or what! *;)
Just, is that better?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I dunno' I can't spell for ****, but I know "I" is "I" not "i"... ;)
You don't *know* schitt, either:
may i feel said he
* * (i'll squeal said she
* * just once said he)
* * it's fun said she
* * (may i touch said he
* * how much said she
* * a lot said he)
* * why not said she
* * (let's go said he
* * not too far said she
* * what's too far said he
* * where you are said she)
* * may i stay said he
* * (which way said she
* * like this said he
* * if you kiss said she
* * may i move said he
* * is it love said she)
* * if you're willing said he
* * (but you're killing said she
* * but it's life said he
* * but your wife said she
* * now said he)
* * ow said she
* * (tiptop said he
* * don't stop said she
* * oh no said he)
* * go slow said she
* * (cccome?said he
* * ummm said she)
* * you're divine!said he
* * (you are Mine said she)
* * * * * *e.e. cummings
Psssst, Harry, properly written English and prose are two completely
different things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Shhhhh, facts don't count...only little fabricated victories;)

"properly written English and prose are two completely different things...."

*snerk

What the hell does *that* mean? It means...nothing.

You and your buddy Loogy are ignorant asses. Cummings' poems were
"properly written English." The point, which both you idiots missed, was
that someone skilled in the language, as was Cummings, can twist it any
way he or she likes, and it will still be proper English.


Then you have no problems with anything anybody writes here.

[email protected] August 26th 08 08:33 PM
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On Aug 26, 3:09*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 26, 2:53 pm, wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:46 pm, hk wrote:

wrote:
There i was right about two things.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but you blew two points for not using your spellchecker;)
Sorry, thanks for the head's up.
Hey Tom, you misspelled "Which" *and "the", and Ipso Facto (unless you
are talking about an IPOD) did you get past 3rd grade or what! *;)
Just, is that better?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I dunno' I can't spell for ****, but I know "I" is "I" not "i"... ;)
You don't *know* schitt, either:
may i feel said he
* * (i'll squeal said she
* * just once said he)
* * it's fun said she
* * (may i touch said he
* * how much said she
* * a lot said he)
* * why not said she
* * (let's go said he
* * not too far said she
* * what's too far said he
* * where you are said she)
* * may i stay said he
* * (which way said she
* * like this said he
* * if you kiss said she
* * may i move said he
* * is it love said she)
* * if you're willing said he
* * (but you're killing said she
* * but it's life said he
* * but your wife said she
* * now said he)
* * ow said she
* * (tiptop said he
* * don't stop said she
* * oh no said he)
* * go slow said she
* * (cccome?said he
* * ummm said she)
* * you're divine!said he
* * (you are Mine said she)
* * * * * *e.e. cummings
Psssst, Harry, properly written English and prose are two completely
different things.- Hide quoted text -

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Shhhhh, facts don't count...only little fabricated victories;)

"properly written English and prose are two completely different things...."

*snerk

What the hell does *that* mean? It means...nothing.

You and your buddy Loogy are ignorant asses. Cummings' poems were
"properly written English." The point, which both you idiots missed, was
that someone skilled in the language, as was Cummings, can twist it any
way he or she likes, and it will still be proper English.

You two "misuse" the language because you don't know better.

Here's someone who does:

Driving a cardboard automobile without a license

* * * * Driving a cardboard automobile without a license
* * * *at the turn of the century
* * my father ran into my mother
* * * * * * * * * *on a fun-ride at Coney Island
* * * * * having spied each other eating
* * * * * * * in a French boardinghouse nearby
* * * * * * *And having decided right there and then
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * that she was right for him entirely
* * he followed her into
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * the playland of that evening
* * * * * where the headlong meeting
* * * * * * *of their ephemeral flesh on wheels
* * * * * hurtled them forever together

And I now in the back seat
* * * * * * * * of their eternity
* * * * * * * * * * * reaching out to embrace them

Lawrence Ferlinghetti- Hide quoted text -

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Harry, we all know you are quite adept at cutting and pasting other's
works. I'm surprised, however, that you didn't try to present it as
your own, you are quite good at that! Remember the picture?

Calif Bill August 26th 08 09:31 PM
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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.

Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama
plan will have the following features:


Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims
and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for
the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also
included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was
done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html




snerk

Yup, snerk on your program.



Calif Bill August 26th 08 09:32 PM
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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ

If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.

Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.

Oh! There is a free lunch?

D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.

All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. Ain't America great.



HK August 26th 08 09:39 PM
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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama
plan will have the following features:

Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims
and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for
the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also
included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was
done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html



snerk

Yup, snerk on your program.




Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've
already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to
prove it.

Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.

HK August 26th 08 09:40 PM
Anything good on TV tonight?
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.

Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.

All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. Ain't America great.



Another example. Who said free? Where do you come up with this nonsense?

JimH[_2_] August 26th 08 09:41 PM
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On Aug 26, 4:32*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

. ..



Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.

But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ

If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.

Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.

Oh! *There is a free lunch?

D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.

All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. *Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. *Ain't America great.

Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............

No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.

I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.

HK August 26th 08 09:47 PM
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JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

. ..



Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. Ain't America great.

Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............

No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.

I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.


Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? :)

JimH[_2_] August 26th 08 09:50 PM
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On Aug 26, 4:47*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

m...

Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! *There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. *Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. *Ain't America great.

Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............

No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.

I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.

Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? * :)

Sounds interesting. So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. Explain also how these plans are funded.

[email protected] August 26th 08 09:54 PM
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On Aug 26, 4:50*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:47*pm, hk wrote:





JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

m...

Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting.. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! *There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. *Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. *Ain't America great.

Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............

No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.

I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.

Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? * :)

Sounds interesting. *So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. *Explain also how these plans are funded.- Hide quoted text -

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Uh, oh...... lover's spat......

Calif Bill August 26th 08 09:56 PM
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"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:

Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html



snerk

Yup, snerk on your program.


Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.

Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.

Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.



HK August 26th 08 09:57 PM
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JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:47 pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. Ain't America great.
Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............
No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.
I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.
Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? :)

Sounds interesting. So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. Explain also how these plans are funded.



I have no idea what you and your wife will get. I suggest you read the
proposals.

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. August 26th 08 09:59 PM
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hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
)

Sounds interesting. So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. Explain also how these plans are funded.



I have no idea what you and your wife will get. I suggest you read the
proposals.

My guess is they will get the shaft.

JimH[_2_] August 26th 08 10:00 PM
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On Aug 26, 4:57*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:47 pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:z4SdnattNfAw0ynVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast. com...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting.. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! *There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. *Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. *Ain't America great.
Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............
No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.
I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.
Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? * :)

Sounds interesting. *So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. *Explain also how these plans are funded.

I have no idea what you and your wife will get. I suggest you read the
proposals.

So who is eligible for all this free stuff? I want to sign up!

HK August 26th 08 10:00 PM
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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:

Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html


snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.

Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.

Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.

Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.



Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.

John H.[_6_] August 26th 08 10:03 PM
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:31:28 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.

Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama
plan will have the following features:


Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims
and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for
the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also
included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was
done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html




snerk

Yup, snerk on your program.


CNN had a good discussion about Medicare fraud last night. And the use of
Medicare as a 'model' by Obama was mentioned also.

It's all about power. Promise the stupid anything to get a vote.


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