Minor miracle?
 

I called my insurance man about insurance for my 1979 22 ft Starcraft.
He said anything under 175 HP was covered under the household
insurance, and 170 HP was under the limit.

Casady

Minor miracle?
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...

I called my insurance man about insurance for my 1979 22 ft Starcraft.
He said anything under 175 HP was covered under the household
insurance, and 170 HP was under the limit.

Casady


The only problem with those household insurance riders for boats is that
they rarely cover oil or fuel spill protection, if that's important to you.

Eisboch

Minor miracle?
 

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:15:07 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:


I called my insurance man about insurance for my 1979 22 ft Starcraft.
He said anything under 175 HP was covered under the household
insurance, and 170 HP was under the limit.

Word of advice - find out exactly what the policy covers for your boat
and what it pays in the event of total loss.

Been there, done that and it wasn't pretty.

Minor miracle?
 

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:50:22 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:15:07 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:


I called my insurance man about insurance for my 1979 22 ft Starcraft.
He said anything under 175 HP was covered under the household
insurance, and 170 HP was under the limit.

Word of advice - find out exactly what the policy covers for your boat
and what it pays in the event of total loss.

Been there, done that and it wasn't pretty.

The boat cost me about two days income.

Casady

Minor miracle?
 

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:23:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Richard Casady" wrote in message
.. .

I called my insurance man about insurance for my 1979 22 ft Starcraft.
He said anything under 175 HP was covered under the household
insurance, and 170 HP was under the limit.

Casady


The only problem with those household insurance riders for boats is that
they rarely cover oil or fuel spill protection, if that's important to you.

Eisboch

Twenty foot deep Spirit Lake Iowa doesn't get waves big enough to sink
a 22 foot boat. Its only five miles wide, not much fetch. There are
more automobiles on the bottom of that lake than boats. Ice fishing.
It is actually realistic to plan on not sinking. If I decide to take
it down the Mississippi and through the ICW, I may rethink that.

Casady

Minor miracle?
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:23:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Richard Casady" wrote in message
. ..

I called my insurance man about insurance for my 1979 22 ft Starcraft.
He said anything under 175 HP was covered under the household
insurance, and 170 HP was under the limit.

Casady


The only problem with those household insurance riders for boats is that
they rarely cover oil or fuel spill protection, if that's important to
you.

Eisboch

Twenty foot deep Spirit Lake Iowa doesn't get waves big enough to sink
a 22 foot boat. Its only five miles wide, not much fetch. There are
more automobiles on the bottom of that lake than boats. Ice fishing.
It is actually realistic to plan on not sinking. If I decide to take
it down the Mississippi and through the ICW, I may rethink that.

Casady

Your call. You don't have to sink a boat to get a half million dollar
clean up bill from the government.
Realistically, a small outboard powered boat is a safer risk than an
inboard. If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak, on an I/O, dumps the
oil into the bilge and your trusty bilge pump promptly discharges it
overboard .... *that's* when you may have problems without oil spill
coverage.

Eisboch

Minor miracle?
 

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,

Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.

Casady

Minor miracle?
 

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,

Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.

Casady

As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.

This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.

Minor miracle?
 

On Aug 24, 5:03*pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,

Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.

Casady

As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. *Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.

This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. *That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.

Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?

We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.

Minor miracle?
 

JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.

This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.

Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?

We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.



Let's be real here...how often is Reggie "filling the tank" on his
imaginary bubble boat to drive around that dried up lake?

Parker puts fairly large gasoline tanks in its boats. My 21-footer has a
100-gallon tank. I keep it about half full. Another 50 gallons of fuel
is another 350 pounds or so... No need to be carrying that much extra
weight.

Minor miracle?
 

JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.

This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.

Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?

We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.

I said the law is written so technically any gas or oil that will leave
a sheen on the water is illegal. "Under federal law (the Oil Pollution
Act of 1990 and the Clean Water Act) it is illegal to discharge any
petroleum product into the water. By law, any oil or fuel spill that
leaves a sheen on the water must be reported to the U.S. Coast Guard at
1-800-424-8802."

While you are required to report the discharge. anyone with a video
camera or cell phone could film the discharge and report it to the state
DNR, the Coast Guard or EPA along with the video of your boat and state
registration number.

So while this law is not enforced for tiny spills, it is important for
people to understand it could be enforced anytime a local enforcement
agent or environmentalist wanted to publicize the problem.

Ask Gene about the trailer laws in NC that were not enforced for many
years, until some local and state police started to enforce the laws and
write tickets and give expensive fines.

My boat insurance has a $800,000 fuel spill protection.

It doesn't bother me if you or anyone else would prefer to "hope" they
don't have a illegal discharge. As i told Cassedy, do whatever you
think is in your best interest. I was just highlighting what the law is.

Minor miracle?
 

On Aug 24, 5:41*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. *Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.

This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. *That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.

Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?

We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.

I said the law is written so technically any gas or oil that will leave
a sheen on the water is illegal. *"Under federal law (the Oil Pollution
Act of 1990 and the Clean Water Act) it is illegal to discharge any
petroleum product into the water. By law, any oil or fuel spill that
leaves a sheen on the water must be reported to the U.S. Coast Guard at
1-800-424-8802."

While you are required to report the discharge. anyone with a video
camera or cell phone could film the discharge and report it to the state
DNR, the Coast Guard or EPA along with the video of your boat and state
registration number.

So while this law is not enforced for tiny spills, it is important for
people to understand it could be enforced anytime a local enforcement
agent or environmentalist wanted to publicize the problem.

Ask Gene about the trailer laws in NC that were not enforced for many
years, until some local and state police started to enforce the laws and
write tickets and give expensive fines.

My boat insurance has a $800,000 fuel spill protection.

It doesn't bother me if you or anyone else would prefer to "hope" they
don't have a illegal discharge. *As i told Cassedy, do whatever you
think is in your best interest. *I was just highlighting what the law is.

I have full insurance coverage also......that was not the issue I
asked you about.

Answer my previous question.

Minor miracle?
 

hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.

This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.

Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?

We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.



Let's be real here...how often is Reggie "filling the tank" on his
imaginary bubble boat to drive around that dried up lake?

Parker puts fairly large gasoline tanks in its boats. My 21-footer has a
100-gallon tank. I keep it about half full. Another 50 gallons of fuel
is another 350 pounds or so... No need to be carrying that much extra
weight.

When i said "filling" the tank, I meant holding the gas nozzle and
putting gas into the tank, not necessarily filling the tank to maximum
capacity. If I get close to actually filling the tank, my fuel vent
will overflow, so I try to make sure I don't overfill the tank, but I
have done it a time or two. I often see runabout and PWC's spilling
fuel into the water and I expect to see this become a major issue soon.

Minor miracle?
 

On Aug 24, 5:47*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. *Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.

This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. *That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.

Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?

We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.

Let's be real here...how often is Reggie "filling the tank" on his
imaginary bubble boat to drive around that dried up lake?

Parker puts fairly large gasoline tanks in its boats. My 21-footer has a
100-gallon tank. I keep it about half full. Another 50 gallons of fuel
is another 350 pounds or so... No need to be carrying that much extra
weight.

When i said "filling" the tank, I meant holding the gas nozzle and
putting gas into the tank, not necessarily filling the tank to maximum
capacity. *If I get close to actually filling the tank, my fuel vent
will overflow, so I try to make sure I don't overfill the tank, but I
have done it a time or two. *I often see runabout and PWC's spilling
fuel into the water and I expect to see this become a major issue soon.

So did you report the overfill to the CG and EPA?

Otherwise....why are you making it an issue in this discussion?

Minor miracle?
 

JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:47 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.
This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.
Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?
We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.
Let's be real here...how often is Reggie "filling the tank" on his
imaginary bubble boat to drive around that dried up lake?
Parker puts fairly large gasoline tanks in its boats. My 21-footer has a
100-gallon tank. I keep it about half full. Another 50 gallons of fuel
is another 350 pounds or so... No need to be carrying that much extra
weight.
When i said "filling" the tank, I meant holding the gas nozzle and
putting gas into the tank, not necessarily filling the tank to maximum
capacity. If I get close to actually filling the tank, my fuel vent
will overflow, so I try to make sure I don't overfill the tank, but I
have done it a time or two. I often see runabout and PWC's spilling
fuel into the water and I expect to see this become a major issue soon.

So did you report the overfill to the CG and EPA?

Otherwise....why are you making it an issue in this discussion?

Was I talking to you?

Minor miracle?
 

JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:47 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.
This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.
Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?
We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.
Let's be real here...how often is Reggie "filling the tank" on his
imaginary bubble boat to drive around that dried up lake?
Parker puts fairly large gasoline tanks in its boats. My 21-footer has a
100-gallon tank. I keep it about half full. Another 50 gallons of fuel
is another 350 pounds or so... No need to be carrying that much extra
weight.
When i said "filling" the tank, I meant holding the gas nozzle and
putting gas into the tank, not necessarily filling the tank to maximum
capacity. If I get close to actually filling the tank, my fuel vent
will overflow, so I try to make sure I don't overfill the tank, but I
have done it a time or two. I often see runabout and PWC's spilling
fuel into the water and I expect to see this become a major issue soon.

So did you report the overfill to the CG and EPA?

Otherwise....why are you making it an issue in this discussion?


Ohhh...someone write this one down, too. Reggie lied. Again. In two
years, we can bring this up. Oh, wait..that's Reggie's rice bowl here.

Minor miracle?
 

hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:47 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the
law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. Technically if you overfill your gas tank
and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.
This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat
owner
to fill their tanks. That way they are not responsible for
overfilling
a tank.
Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?
We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.
Let's be real here...how often is Reggie "filling the tank" on his
imaginary bubble boat to drive around that dried up lake?
Parker puts fairly large gasoline tanks in its boats. My 21-footer
has a
100-gallon tank. I keep it about half full. Another 50 gallons of fuel
is another 350 pounds or so... No need to be carrying that much extra
weight.
When i said "filling" the tank, I meant holding the gas nozzle and
putting gas into the tank, not necessarily filling the tank to maximum
capacity. If I get close to actually filling the tank, my fuel vent
will overflow, so I try to make sure I don't overfill the tank, but I
have done it a time or two. I often see runabout and PWC's spilling
fuel into the water and I expect to see this become a major issue soon.

So did you report the overfill to the CG and EPA?

Otherwise....why are you making it an issue in this discussion?


Ohhh...someone write this one down, too. Reggie lied. Again. In two
years, we can bring this up. Oh, wait..that's Reggie's rice bowl here.

What statement did I say that was a lie? I never said the DNR, EPA or
CG enforced all minor spills. I never said I NEVER had a minor spill.
I did say it could easily become a major issue, and I would never boat
or recommend anyone else boat without oil spill protection.

In two years I will say the same thing.

Minor miracle?
 

On Aug 24, 5:52*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:47 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. *Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.
This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. *That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.
Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?
We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.
Let's be real here...how often is Reggie "filling the tank" on his
imaginary bubble boat to drive around that dried up lake?
Parker puts fairly large gasoline tanks in its boats. My 21-footer has a
100-gallon tank. I keep it about half full. Another 50 gallons of fuel
is another 350 pounds or so... No need to be carrying that much extra
weight.
When i said "filling" the tank, I meant holding the gas nozzle and
putting gas into the tank, not necessarily filling the tank to maximum
capacity. *If I get close to actually filling the tank, my fuel vent
will overflow, so I try to make sure I don't overfill the tank, but I
have done it a time or two. *I often see runabout and PWC's spilling
fuel into the water and I expect to see this become a major issue soon..

So did you report the overfill to the CG and EPA?

Otherwise....why are you making it an issue in this discussion?

Was I talking to you?

No, you were posting replies to me on a NG.

Once cannot talk to each other here Reggie.

Minor miracle?
 

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:47 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the
law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. Technically if you overfill your gas tank
and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.
This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat
owner
to fill their tanks. That way they are not responsible for
overfilling
a tank.
Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?
We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.
Let's be real here...how often is Reggie "filling the tank" on his
imaginary bubble boat to drive around that dried up lake?
Parker puts fairly large gasoline tanks in its boats. My 21-footer
has a
100-gallon tank. I keep it about half full. Another 50 gallons of fuel
is another 350 pounds or so... No need to be carrying that much extra
weight.
When i said "filling" the tank, I meant holding the gas nozzle and
putting gas into the tank, not necessarily filling the tank to maximum
capacity. If I get close to actually filling the tank, my fuel vent
will overflow, so I try to make sure I don't overfill the tank, but I
have done it a time or two. I often see runabout and PWC's spilling
fuel into the water and I expect to see this become a major issue soon.

So did you report the overfill to the CG and EPA?

Otherwise....why are you making it an issue in this discussion?

Was I talking to you?


He doesn't care. He just needs to type..and type...

Minor miracle?
 

On Aug 24, 8:21*pm, DK wrote:
Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:





JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:47 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the
law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. *Technically if you overfill your gas tank
and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.
This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat
owner
to fill their tanks. *That way they are not responsible for
overfilling
a tank.
Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?
We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.
Let's be real here...how often is Reggie "filling the tank" on his
imaginary bubble boat to drive around that dried up lake?
Parker puts fairly large gasoline tanks in its boats. My 21-footer
has a
100-gallon tank. I keep it about half full. Another 50 gallons of fuel
is another 350 pounds or so... No need to be carrying that much extra
weight.
When i said "filling" the tank, I meant holding the gas nozzle and
putting gas into the tank, not necessarily filling the tank to maximum
capacity. *If I get close to actually filling the tank, my fuel vent
will overflow, so I try to make sure I don't overfill the tank, but I
have done it a time or two. *I often see runabout and PWC's spilling
fuel into the water and I expect to see this become a major issue soon.

Minor miracle?
 

Minor miracle?
 

On Aug 24, 8:40*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 24, 8:21 pm, DK wrote:
Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:

JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:47 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, RPSIII wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,
Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.
Casady
As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the
law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. *Technically if you overfill your gas tank
and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.
This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat
owner
to fill their tanks. *That way they are not responsible for
overfilling
a tank.
Does the EPA and CG respond to and fine folks in GA for overfilling
the gas tanks on their boats?
We have the option of filling our tanks ourselves or having the dock
attendant do it for us.
Let's be real here...how often is Reggie "filling the tank" on his
imaginary bubble boat to drive around that dried up lake?
Parker puts fairly large gasoline tanks in its boats. My 21-footer
has a
100-gallon tank. I keep it about half full. Another 50 gallons of fuel
is another 350 pounds or so... No need to be carrying that much extra
weight.
When i said "filling" the tank, I meant holding the gas nozzle and
putting gas into the tank, not necessarily filling the tank to maximum
capacity. *If I get close to actually filling the tank, my fuel vent
will overflow, so I try to make sure I don't overfill the tank, but I
have done it a time or two. *I often see runabout and PWC's spilling
fuel into the water and I expect to see this become a major issue soon.
So did you report the overfill to the CG and EPA?
Otherwise....why are you making it an issue in this discussion?
Was I talking to you?
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Really gets himself backed into corners.. He did not report it, but he
supports "green" issues for everyone else... At least while it's the
side he's taking...;)

Quite funny...you are in such denial about the dangers to which you are
exposing your daughter, that any posts that actually explain these to
you, you deflect. Remember that thread about your calling trauma
surgeons "socialist liberals" or some such nonsense?

Nope, that is a misrepresentation, but that of course is what you do
best.. You can not participate, you can not be honest.. Threrefore,
you are useless to most here.

Minor miracle?
 

Minor miracle?
 

"RPSIII" wrote in message
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,

Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.

Casady

As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.

This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner to
fill their tanks. That way they are not responsible for overfilling a
tank.

Although the laws are very specific, I think the CG and most people use
common sense. Technically, as someone else pointed out, *any* spillage or
leak that causes a sheen on the water is supposed to be reported. In
reality, I don't think marine gas docks report minor spillages. I have
noticed, however, that the traditional spray bottle of soapy water to hide
the evidence has disappeared from most gas docks.

The same applies obviously to diesels and diesel fuel. I've yet to see a
diesel powered boat fail to leave a slight sheen of unburned fuel on the
water when it first starts up however.

Some things are just better off left unsaid.

Eisboch

Minor miracle?
 

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:03:20 -0400, RPSIII wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:18:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

If the oil pan rusts out or develops a leak,

Oil pans don't rust out around these parts. No salt.

Casady

As he said, do what you think is in your best interest, but the law is
written so that ANY gas/oil that will leave a sheen on the water can
result in HIGH fines. Technically if you overfill your gas tank and a
ounce of gas ends up in the water, you could face an outrageous fine.

This is the reason why all marinas I ever visit require the boat owner
to fill their tanks. That way they are not responsible for overfilling
a tank.

The gas fills on my boat, are on the topsides are a foot below the
gunnels, and are six feet off the ground when the boat is on the
trailer at a gas station. The EPA stays away from gas stations it
seems.There is no way to use more than fifty gallons in one day
fishing a small lake, so there won't be any opportunity for spillage
at a gas dock. Even so, I will ask my guy if I am covered for that.
And if not, what insurance will run.

Casady