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HK August 21st 08 09:14 PM

How many houses...
 
....do you own?

3?
4?
5?
6?
7?


John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.

(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)

I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk

[email protected] August 21st 08 09:45 PM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 4:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?

3?
4?
5?
6?
7?

John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.

(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)

I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk


Obimbo lives in a million dollar mansion he bought from a convicted
felon in a shady deal. Gore lives in a huge mansion and has an
enormous houseboat. Kerry has a huge place and his wife........?
Edwards has the largest place in NC.

Eisboch August 21st 08 09:53 PM

How many houses...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..

...do you own?



Things are obviously getting desperate in the DNC.

Eisboch



HK August 21st 08 09:55 PM

How many houses...
 
wrote:
On Aug 21, 4:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?

3?
4?
5?
6?
7?

John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.

(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)

I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk


Obimbo lives in a million dollar mansion he bought from a convicted
felon in a shady deal. Gore lives in a huge mansion and has an
enormous houseboat. Kerry has a huge place and his wife........?
Edwards has the largest place in NC.



I suspect Obama, Gore, Kerry, and Edwards know how many houses they and
their spouses own, eh?

The point was not the number of houses, but the fact that McCain didn't
know.

BTW, why do you refer to Obama as "Obimbo"?


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HK August 21st 08 09:58 PM

How many houses...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

...do you own?



Things are obviously getting desperate in the DNC.

Eisboch



I think it reasonable for a presidential candidate to know how many
houses he and his wife own. I wonder if McCain knows what a half gallon
of milk or a dozen eggs sell for? I doubt it.

Eisboch August 21st 08 10:05 PM

How many houses...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..

wrote:
On Aug 21, 4:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?

3?
4?
5?
6?
7?

John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.

(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)

I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk


Obimbo lives in a million dollar mansion he bought from a convicted
felon in a shady deal. Gore lives in a huge mansion and has an
enormous houseboat. Kerry has a huge place and his wife........?
Edwards has the largest place in NC.



I suspect Obama, Gore, Kerry, and Edwards know how many houses they and
their spouses own, eh?


The point was not the number of houses, but the fact that McCain didn't
know.




That wasn't your point at all.

First of all, McCain and his wife have made many investments, including
property, houses or condos. When he was asked this question, he deferred
to his staff to make sure he gave an accurate response. Can't blame him.

Now, the *point* you were trying to make is contained in this:

"I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk"


I'll debate, but let's be honest.

Eisboch






Eisboch August 21st 08 10:08 PM

How many houses...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

...do you own?



Things are obviously getting desperate in the DNC.

Eisboch


I think it reasonable for a presidential candidate to know how many houses
he and his wife own. I wonder if McCain knows what a half gallon of milk
or a dozen eggs sell for? I doubt it.



Neither do I. I haven't had a glass of milk or a real, home cooked egg in
about 3 years. So what?

Eisboch



D.Duck August 21st 08 10:10 PM

How many houses...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
...do you own?

3?
4?
5?
6?
7?


John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.

(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)

I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or are
about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with the
ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the ultra-rich Mitt
Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk


I like Kaine's comment, "he can't count that high". That sounds like
something right out of rec.boats.

Kaine is VP material?



HK August 21st 08 10:13 PM

How many houses...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

wrote:
On Aug 21, 4:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?

3?
4?
5?
6?
7?

John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.

(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)

I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk
Obimbo lives in a million dollar mansion he bought from a convicted
felon in a shady deal. Gore lives in a huge mansion and has an
enormous houseboat. Kerry has a huge place and his wife........?
Edwards has the largest place in NC.


I suspect Obama, Gore, Kerry, and Edwards know how many houses they and
their spouses own, eh?


The point was not the number of houses, but the fact that McCain didn't
know.




That wasn't your point at all.

First of all, McCain and his wife have made many investments, including
property, houses or condos. When he was asked this question, he deferred
to his staff to make sure he gave an accurate response. Can't blame him.

Now, the *point* you were trying to make is contained in this:

"I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk"


I'll debate, but let's be honest.

Eisboch


My point was and is that I think McCain is disconnected from the harsh
reality facing tens of millions of Americans and, worse, he doesn't give
a damn, either.

PS...his staff didn't know the answer either.

HK August 21st 08 10:14 PM

How many houses...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

...do you own?

Things are obviously getting desperate in the DNC.

Eisboch

I think it reasonable for a presidential candidate to know how many houses
he and his wife own. I wonder if McCain knows what a half gallon of milk
or a dozen eggs sell for? I doubt it.



Neither do I. I haven't had a glass of milk or a real, home cooked egg in
about 3 years. So what?

Eisboch




You're not running for public office. Someone who is...should
Don't you go to the supermarket?

Tim August 21st 08 10:14 PM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 3:14*pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?

3?
4?
5?
6?
7?

John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.

(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)

I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. *snerk


How many homes is Sorosville?

You think that he has an empty realty portfolio?

Does he let the poor and vagerent camp out in them?

HK August 21st 08 10:16 PM

How many houses...
 
Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?

3?
4?
5?
6?
7?

John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.

(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)

I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk


How many homes is Sorosville?

You think that he has an empty realty portfolio?

Does he let the poor and vagerent camp out in them?



It's not the number, although with an ultra-rich presidential candidate,
the number is important. It's not knowing the answer.


[email protected] August 21st 08 10:19 PM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 5:14 pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:14 pm, hk wrote:



...do you own?


3?
4?
5?
6?
7?


John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.


(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)


I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.


John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk


How many homes is Sorosville?

You think that he has an empty realty portfolio?

Does he let the poor and vagerent camp out in them?


Obimbo (yes, he really isnt the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree)
made $4 million last year from his Audacity of Hype book, not exactly
a poor man. Obimbo lives in a mansion that is valued at near $2
million and owns additional valuable properties. Obimbo can afford to
vacation at a private beach in Hawaii. We can also talk about
Edward's home and about Gore's home and about Pelosi's home and about
Soro's home and about the Clintons real estate deals.

D.Duck August 21st 08 10:23 PM

How many houses...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?

3?
4?
5?
6?
7?

John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.

(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)

I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk


How many homes is Sorosville?

You think that he has an empty realty portfolio?

Does he let the poor and vagerent camp out in them?



It's not the number, although with an ultra-rich presidential candidate,
the number is important. It's not knowing the answer.



My point was that Kaine's comment was juvenile. I think that it would be a
mistake for him to be Obama's choice. I don't see what he has to offer in
that office. His experience is lacking.



Eisboch August 21st 08 10:32 PM

How many houses...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..


I think it reasonable for a presidential candidate to know how many
houses he and his wife own. I wonder if McCain knows what a half gallon
of milk or a dozen eggs sell for? I doubt it.




Neither do I. I haven't had a glass of milk or a real, home cooked egg
in about 3 years. So what?

Eisboch



You're not running for public office. Someone who is...should
Don't you go to the supermarket?




Very rarely. We don't have kids living in the house anymore. There's no
reason for me to be current with the price of a gallon of milk. So, I don't
have a clue, and I don't think it makes any difference if I were running for
public office or not.

I *do* know, based on conversations with my daughter who feeds two growing
boys with bottomless pits and my two sons' wives and their families that
food costs are going out of sight. I know pretty accurately how much they
all spend a week for food.

I think *that's* important to know, not an itemized grocery shopping list.

Ask McCain about the high cost of food. I think he has an idea.
Ask him how much a lb. of boloney costs and I won't hold it against him if
he doesn't have the current answer on the tip of his tongue.

This stupid stuff is nothing but political spin and frankly, it is an insult
to the intelligence of the American people.

Eisboch




[email protected] August 21st 08 10:50 PM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 5:32 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

. ..

I think it reasonable for a presidential candidate to know how many
houses he and his wife own. I wonder if McCain knows what a half gallon
of milk or a dozen eggs sell for? I doubt it.
Neither do I. I haven't had a glass of milk or a real, home cooked egg
in about 3 years. So what?


Eisboch

You're not running for public office. Someone who is...should
Don't you go to the supermarket?


Very rarely. We don't have kids living in the house anymore. There's no
reason for me to be current with the price of a gallon of milk. So, I don't
have a clue, and I don't think it makes any difference if I were running for
public office or not.

I *do* know, based on conversations with my daughter who feeds two growing
boys with bottomless pits and my two sons' wives and their families that
food costs are going out of sight. I know pretty accurately how much they
all spend a week for food.

I think *that's* important to know, not an itemized grocery shopping list.

Ask McCain about the high cost of food. I think he has an idea.
Ask him how much a lb. of boloney costs and I won't hold it against him if
he doesn't have the current answer on the tip of his tongue.

This stupid stuff is nothing but political spin and frankly, it is an insult
to the intelligence of the American people.

Eisboch


Democrats always fall this cult of personality like they have done for
Obama..It is part of their pathology of wanting to be taken care of by
a father figure. Remember how many Dems thought papa Joe Stalin was
ok and they went into near depression when Krushev denounced him?
Remember how many Dems went gaga over Mao? They always do this
because the average Dem isnt smart enough to take care of himself so
they need an authority figure to tell them what to do.

Eisboch August 21st 08 11:03 PM

How many houses...
 

wrote in message
...


Democrats always fall this cult of personality like they have done for
Obama..It is part of their pathology of wanting to be taken care of by
a father figure. Remember how many Dems thought papa Joe Stalin was
ok and they went into near depression when Krushev denounced him?
Remember how many Dems went gaga over Mao? They always do this
because the average Dem isnt smart enough to take care of himself so
they need an authority figure to tell them what to do.



Unfortunately, it's more. It's about power. Scaring the average guy,
promising him security and social welfare is a means of building it.

Personalities and individuals aside, I believe in a system whereby people
are guaranteed the opportunity to take care of themselves and their
families, to whatever level they aspire, in whatever legal means they
desire. Our social obligation is to provide for those that simply cannot,
for whatever physical or mental reason, do it for themselves.

It isn't perfect by any means, but we are obligated to continue working at
it.

One of my fears is that due to the rapid changes in the world today, the
global economy, the rise of the economic strength of other nations, that we
may be duped into the "security" mode of thinking and lose much of what this
country was founded on.


Eisboch



HK August 21st 08 11:10 PM

How many houses...
 

wrote in message
...

Democrats always fall this cult of personality like they have done for
Obama..It is part of their pathology of wanting to be taken care of by
a father figure. Remember how many Dems thought papa Joe Stalin was
ok and they went into near depression when Krushev denounced him?
Remember how many Dems went gaga over Mao? They always do this
because the average Dem isnt smart enough to take care of himself so
they need an authority figure to tell them what to do.



No offense, but that is the biggest crop of crap I have seen posted here
in a long, long time.

If you want political cult of personality in this country, look no
farther than Ronald Reagan, and the efforts of Republicans to name every
damned thing everywhere after him.

How many Democrats thought Stalin was OK? How many went gaga over Mao?
I'm old enough and educated enough to remember both of those guys, and I
recall reading many times that Roosevelt, the leading Democrat of his
time, had nothing but disdain for Stalin. His successor, Harry S Truman,
had no use for Stalin, either.

What you posted is bull**** piled upon bull**** piled upon bull****.

Eisboch August 21st 08 11:24 PM

How many houses...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..

wrote in message
...

Democrats always fall this cult of personality like they have done for
Obama..It is part of their pathology of wanting to be taken care of by
a father figure. Remember how many Dems thought papa Joe Stalin was
ok and they went into near depression when Krushev denounced him?
Remember how many Dems went gaga over Mao? They always do this
because the average Dem isnt smart enough to take care of himself so
they need an authority figure to tell them what to do.



No offense, but that is the biggest crop of crap I have seen posted here
in a long, long time.

If you want political cult of personality in this country, look no farther
than Ronald Reagan, and the efforts of Republicans to name every damned
thing everywhere after him.

How many Democrats thought Stalin was OK? How many went gaga over Mao? I'm
old enough and educated enough to remember both of those guys, and I
recall reading many times that Roosevelt, the leading Democrat of his
time, had nothing but disdain for Stalin. His successor, Harry S Truman,
had no use for Stalin, either.

What you posted is bull**** piled upon bull**** piled upon bull****.





heh, heh, heh.

Got to ya, huh?

Consider this. That's how many of us feel about a lot of your posts.

Eisboch




[email protected] August 21st 08 11:31 PM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 6:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

. ..





wrote in message
...


Democrats always fall this cult of personality like they have done for
Obama..It is part of their pathology of wanting to be taken care of by
a father figure. Remember how many Dems thought papa Joe Stalin was
ok and they went into near depression when Krushev denounced him?
Remember how many Dems went gaga over Mao? They always do this
because the average Dem isnt smart enough to take care of himself so
they need an authority figure to tell them what to do.


No offense, but that is the biggest crop of crap I have seen posted here
in a long, long time.


If you want political cult of personality in this country, look no farther
than Ronald Reagan, and the efforts of Republicans to name every damned
thing everywhere after him.


How many Democrats thought Stalin was OK? How many went gaga over Mao? I'm
old enough and educated enough to remember both of those guys, and I
recall reading many times that Roosevelt, the leading Democrat of his
time, had nothing but disdain for Stalin. His successor, Harry S Truman,
had no use for Stalin, either.


What you posted is bull**** piled upon bull**** piled upon bull****.


heh, heh, heh.

Got to ya, huh?

Consider this. That's how many of us feel about a lot of your posts.

Eisboch


We can start with Ayers, one of Obimbo's buddies. How about all the
Dems who like Castro and Chavez. How about the great mouthpiece of
the DNC, the NYT and their defense of Stalin by saying they saw no
famine in the Ukraine They even wond a Pulitzer for that one. All
those 60s radicals have mostly become Dems and they all loved Mao.
Remember, "I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect Mandarin,
with Uncle Ho, Chairman Mao, fidel and Madame Binh......."
Roosevelt and Truman would have nothing to do with the Dem party of
today. Even Kennedy was more right wing than McCain.

Tim August 21st 08 11:43 PM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 4:16 pm, hk wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?


3?
4?
5?
6?
7?


John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.


(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)


I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.


John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk


How many homes is Sorosville?


You think that he has an empty realty portfolio?


Does he let the poor and vagerent camp out in them?


It's not the number, although with an ultra-rich presidential candidate,
the number is important. It's not knowing the answer.


harry, I'm glad you brought that up. Speaking of "ultra-rich
presidential candidates" when Kerry was running, did anyone ask him
the same questions, or question his income, or what he did with it?

Tim August 21st 08 11:53 PM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 5:10 pm, hk wrote:


If you want political cult of personality in this country, look no
farther than Ronald Reagan, and the efforts of Republicans to name every
damned thing everywhere after him.



harry, I don't really know, but I'd imagine there's more thinks named
Kennedy than Reagan

not to mention Washington and Lincoln.

JimH[_2_] August 22nd 08 12:01 AM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 6:43*pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 4:16 pm, hk wrote:



Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?


3?
4?
5?
6?
7?


John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.


(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)


I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.


John McCain, the man for the middle class. *snerk


How many homes is Sorosville?


You think that he has an empty realty portfolio?


Does he let the poor and vagerent camp out in them?


It's not the number, although with an ultra-rich presidential candidate,
the number is important. It's not knowing the answer.


harry, I'm glad you brought that up. Speaking of "ultra-rich
presidential candidates" when Kerry was running, did anyone ask him
the same questions, *or question his income, or what he did with it?


Have you read about the corruption of Cleveland (Cuyahoga County)
Democratic members, including county commissioners, auditor and
judges?

They have been ripping off their constituents for years and getting
very rich while doing so.

Tim August 22nd 08 12:06 AM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 6:01 pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 21, 6:43 pm, Tim wrote:



On Aug 21, 4:16 pm, hk wrote:


Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?


3?
4?
5?
6?
7?


John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.


(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)


I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.


John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk


How many homes is Sorosville?


You think that he has an empty realty portfolio?


Does he let the poor and vagerent camp out in them?


It's not the number, although with an ultra-rich presidential candidate,
the number is important. It's not knowing the answer.


harry, I'm glad you brought that up. Speaking of "ultra-rich
presidential candidates" when Kerry was running, did anyone ask him
the same questions, or question his income, or what he did with it?


Have you read about the corruption of Cleveland (Cuyahoga County)
Democratic members, including county commissioners, auditor and
judges?

They have been ripping off their constituents for years and getting
very rich while doing so.


Oh! trying to keep up with Illinois, eh???

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 22nd 08 12:28 AM

How many houses...
 
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:13:27 -0400, hk wrote:

My point was and is that I think McCain is disconnected from the harsh
reality facing tens of millions of Americans and, worse, he doesn't give
a damn, either.


Really?

A man who has never held a real job, spent any time in the military
and has lived a majority of his time on Earth at the expense of
charitable foundations or the American taxpayer - who made $4,000,000
last year, lives in a $1.3 million dollar house which he bought from a
corrupt developer in a shady deal for $900,000, thinks that your
average American clings to religion and guns is a rational explanation
for not voting for him, has no legal opinions of note, no legislation
of note, was considered unremarkable as a "constitutional scholar",
consorts with black racists and white radical terrorists one of whom
did something that Osama ibn Laden wasn't able to do and that was bomb
the US Capitol building and thinks that the average American buys
arugula instead of lettuce, he got an earmark for the hospital Mrs.
Obama worked for $3,000,000 and magically and subseguently her pay
went from $120,000 to $350,000 in a remarkable coincidence.

Oh yeah - you've got a real winner there Harry - a real prize -
somebody who can relate to the "average" American.

[email protected] August 22nd 08 12:42 AM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 7:28 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:13:27 -0400, hk wrote:
My point was and is that I think McCain is disconnected from the harsh
reality facing tens of millions of Americans and, worse, he doesn't give
a damn, either.


Really?

A man who has never held a real job, spent any time in the military
and has lived a majority of his time on Earth at the expense of
charitable foundations or the American taxpayer - who made $4,000,000
last year, lives in a $1.3 million dollar house which he bought from a
corrupt developer in a shady deal for $900,000, thinks that your
average American clings to religion and guns is a rational explanation
for not voting for him, has no legal opinions of note, no legislation
of note, was considered unremarkable as a "constitutional scholar",
consorts with black racists and white radical terrorists one of whom
did something that Osama ibn Laden wasn't able to do and that was bomb
the US Capitol building and thinks that the average American buys
arugula instead of lettuce, he got an earmark for the hospital Mrs.
Obama worked for $3,000,000 and magically and subseguently her pay
went from $120,000 to $350,000 in a remarkable coincidence.

Oh yeah - you've got a real winner there Harry - a real prize -
somebody who can relate to the "average" American.


As proof of the inability of some Dems to not be able to think for
themselves, I offer the postings of a certain person here who
constantly posts anti-McCain or anti-Bush articles instead of using
his own brain. See, this is the pathology of Democrats, the love of
authority because it means they do not have to think for themselves.
Look at how many Dems love Chavez and Castro, its the same old thing
we always see with Dems, the authority father figure they fall in love
with who will somehow save them. Often they substitute some other
authority such as the government or the union etc. but it always has
to be something that will save them from themselves because they are
weak and pathetic.

HK August 22nd 08 12:52 AM

How many houses...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote in message
...

Democrats always fall this cult of personality like they have done for
Obama..It is part of their pathology of wanting to be taken care of by
a father figure. Remember how many Dems thought papa Joe Stalin was
ok and they went into near depression when Krushev denounced him?
Remember how many Dems went gaga over Mao? They always do this
because the average Dem isnt smart enough to take care of himself so
they need an authority figure to tell them what to do.


No offense, but that is the biggest crop of crap I have seen posted here
in a long, long time.

If you want political cult of personality in this country, look no farther
than Ronald Reagan, and the efforts of Republicans to name every damned
thing everywhere after him.

How many Democrats thought Stalin was OK? How many went gaga over Mao? I'm
old enough and educated enough to remember both of those guys, and I
recall reading many times that Roosevelt, the leading Democrat of his
time, had nothing but disdain for Stalin. His successor, Harry S Truman,
had no use for Stalin, either.

What you posted is bull**** piled upon bull**** piled upon bull****.





heh, heh, heh.

Got to ya, huh?

Consider this. That's how many of us feel about a lot of your posts.

Eisboch





It didn't get to me.

HK August 22nd 08 12:54 AM

How many houses...
 
Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 4:16 pm, hk wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?
3?
4?
5?
6?
7?
John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.
(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)
I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.
John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk
How many homes is Sorosville?
You think that he has an empty realty portfolio?
Does he let the poor and vagerent camp out in them?

It's not the number, although with an ultra-rich presidential candidate,
the number is important. It's not knowing the answer.


harry, I'm glad you brought that up. Speaking of "ultra-rich
presidential candidates" when Kerry was running, did anyone ask him
the same questions, or question his income, or what he did with it?


Yup

[email protected] August 22nd 08 12:55 AM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 7:52 pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...


Democrats always fall this cult of personality like they have done for
Obama..It is part of their pathology of wanting to be taken care of by
a father figure. Remember how many Dems thought papa Joe Stalin was
ok and they went into near depression when Krushev denounced him?
Remember how many Dems went gaga over Mao? They always do this
because the average Dem isnt smart enough to take care of himself so
they need an authority figure to tell them what to do.


No offense, but that is the biggest crop of crap I have seen posted here
in a long, long time.


If you want political cult of personality in this country, look no farther
than Ronald Reagan, and the efforts of Republicans to name every damned
thing everywhere after him.


How many Democrats thought Stalin was OK? How many went gaga over Mao? I'm
old enough and educated enough to remember both of those guys, and I
recall reading many times that Roosevelt, the leading Democrat of his
time, had nothing but disdain for Stalin. His successor, Harry S Truman,
had no use for Stalin, either.


What you posted is bull**** piled upon bull**** piled upon bull****.


heh, heh, heh.


Got to ya, huh?


Consider this. That's how many of us feel about a lot of your posts.


Eisboch


It didn't get to me.


Oh, Harry, did you think I was referring to you?

HK August 22nd 08 12:57 AM

How many houses...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:13:27 -0400, hk wrote:

My point was and is that I think McCain is disconnected from the harsh
reality facing tens of millions of Americans and, worse, he doesn't give
a damn, either.


Really?

A man who has never held a real job, spent any time in the military


and has lived a majority of his time on Earth at the expense of
charitable foundations or the American taxpayer - who made $4,000,000
last year, lives in a $1.3 million dollar house which he bought from a
corrupt developer in a shady deal for $900,000, thinks that your
average American clings to religion and guns is a rational explanation
for not voting for him, has no legal opinions of note, no legislation
of note, was considered unremarkable as a "constitutional scholar",
consorts with black racists and white radical terrorists one of whom
did something that Osama ibn Laden wasn't able to do and that was bomb
the US Capitol building and thinks that the average American buys
arugula instead of lettuce, he got an earmark for the hospital Mrs.
Obama worked for $3,000,000 and magically and subseguently her pay
went from $120,000 to $350,000 in a remarkable coincidence.

Oh yeah - you've got a real winner there Harry - a real prize -
somebody who can relate to the "average" American.




"A man who has never...spent any time in the military..." sounds like a
great step forward. We have a president who "spent time in the military"
right now, and he's an incompetent fool.

I don't think one day of McCain's military experience is relevant to the
job he is seeking.

HK August 22nd 08 12:58 AM

How many houses...
 
wrote:
On Aug 21, 7:52 pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote in message
...
Democrats always fall this cult of personality like they have done for
Obama..It is part of their pathology of wanting to be taken care of by
a father figure. Remember how many Dems thought papa Joe Stalin was
ok and they went into near depression when Krushev denounced him?
Remember how many Dems went gaga over Mao? They always do this
because the average Dem isnt smart enough to take care of himself so
they need an authority figure to tell them what to do.
No offense, but that is the biggest crop of crap I have seen posted here
in a long, long time.
If you want political cult of personality in this country, look no farther
than Ronald Reagan, and the efforts of Republicans to name every damned
thing everywhere after him.
How many Democrats thought Stalin was OK? How many went gaga over Mao? I'm
old enough and educated enough to remember both of those guys, and I
recall reading many times that Roosevelt, the leading Democrat of his
time, had nothing but disdain for Stalin. His successor, Harry S Truman,
had no use for Stalin, either.
What you posted is bull**** piled upon bull**** piled upon bull****.
heh, heh, heh.
Got to ya, huh?
Consider this. That's how many of us feel about a lot of your posts.
Eisboch

It didn't get to me.


Oh, Harry, did you think I was referring to you?



No, I thought you were demonstrating your ignorance of history.

Tim August 22nd 08 12:58 AM

How many houses...
 
On Aug 21, 6:54 pm, hk wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 4:16 pm, hk wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:14 pm, hk wrote:
...do you own?
3?
4?
5?
6?
7?
John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.
(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)
I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.
John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk
How many homes is Sorosville?
You think that he has an empty realty portfolio?
Does he let the poor and vagerent camp out in them?
It's not the number, although with an ultra-rich presidential candidate,
the number is important. It's not knowing the answer.


harry, I'm glad you brought that up. Speaking of "ultra-rich
presidential candidates" when Kerry was running, did anyone ask him
the same questions, or question his income, or what he did with it?


Yup


I watched a lot of news then and not saying I didn't miss something,
but I sure don't remember it.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 22nd 08 12:58 AM

How many houses...
 
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:42:24 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Aug 21, 7:28 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:13:27 -0400, hk wrote:
My point was and is that I think McCain is disconnected from the harsh
reality facing tens of millions of Americans and, worse, he doesn't give
a damn, either.


Really?

A man who has never held a real job, spent any time in the military
and has lived a majority of his time on Earth at the expense of
charitable foundations or the American taxpayer - who made $4,000,000
last year, lives in a $1.3 million dollar house which he bought from a
corrupt developer in a shady deal for $900,000, thinks that your
average American clings to religion and guns is a rational explanation
for not voting for him, has no legal opinions of note, no legislation
of note, was considered unremarkable as a "constitutional scholar",
consorts with black racists and white radical terrorists one of whom
did something that Osama ibn Laden wasn't able to do and that was bomb
the US Capitol building and thinks that the average American buys
arugula instead of lettuce, he got an earmark for the hospital Mrs.
Obama worked for $3,000,000 and magically and subseguently her pay
went from $120,000 to $350,000 in a remarkable coincidence.

Oh yeah - you've got a real winner there Harry - a real prize -
somebody who can relate to the "average" American.


As proof of the inability of some Dems to not be able to think for
themselves, I offer the postings of a certain person here who
constantly posts anti-McCain or anti-Bush articles instead of using
his own brain. See, this is the pathology of Democrats, the love of
authority because it means they do not have to think for themselves.
Look at how many Dems love Chavez and Castro, its the same old thing
we always see with Dems, the authority father figure they fall in love
with who will somehow save them. Often they substitute some other
authority such as the government or the union etc. but it always has
to be something that will save them from themselves because they are
weak and pathetic.


What's even funnier is that the answer to the question is....

DRUM ROLL!!!!!!!

None - McCain does not own one single home.

Zero, zip, nada, none...

He doesn't own any houses.

Now that's funny...

Not to mention - um...stupid, incompetent and lame ass oppo research.


Vic Smith August 22nd 08 01:15 AM

How many houses...
 
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:57:10 -0400, hk wrote:



I don't think one day of McCain's military experience is relevant to the
job he is seeking.


Not taking sides here, since I don't care for either side, but unless
BO selects Hillary as VP, I'm getting the feeling he's toast.
Military aside, Hillary will add balls to the ticket.
The act of picking her will add 4 balls, not including Bill's.
Obama showing he has a set, and Hillary's.
It's scary how bad BO is looking against McCain, who has Carly Fiorina
as his economics advisor for Christ's sake.

--Vic

HK August 22nd 08 01:17 AM

How many houses...
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:57:10 -0400, hk wrote:


I don't think one day of McCain's military experience is relevant to the
job he is seeking.


Not taking sides here, since I don't care for either side, but unless
BO selects Hillary as VP, I'm getting the feeling he's toast.
Military aside, Hillary will add balls to the ticket.
The act of picking her will add 4 balls, not including Bill's.
Obama showing he has a set, and Hillary's.
It's scary how bad BO is looking against McCain, who has Carly Fiorina
as his economics advisor for Christ's sake.

--Vic



Wow. Carly Fiorina. Gee.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 22nd 08 01:25 AM

How many houses...
 
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:57:10 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:13:27 -0400, hk wrote:

My point was and is that I think McCain is disconnected from the harsh
reality facing tens of millions of Americans and, worse, he doesn't give
a damn, either.


Really?

A man who has never held a real job, spent any time in the military


and has lived a majority of his time on Earth at the expense of
charitable foundations or the American taxpayer - who made $4,000,000
last year, lives in a $1.3 million dollar house which he bought from a
corrupt developer in a shady deal for $900,000, thinks that your
average American clings to religion and guns is a rational explanation
for not voting for him, has no legal opinions of note, no legislation
of note, was considered unremarkable as a "constitutional scholar",
consorts with black racists and white radical terrorists one of whom
did something that Osama ibn Laden wasn't able to do and that was bomb
the US Capitol building and thinks that the average American buys
arugula instead of lettuce, he got an earmark for the hospital Mrs.
Obama worked for $3,000,000 and magically and subseguently her pay
went from $120,000 to $350,000 in a remarkable coincidence.

Oh yeah - you've got a real winner there Harry - a real prize -
somebody who can relate to the "average" American.


"A man who has never...spent any time in the military..." sounds like a
great step forward. We have a president who "spent time in the military"
right now, and he's an incompetent fool.

I don't think one day of McCain's military experience is relevant to the
job he is seeking.


You sure as hell did when Kerry was running.

HK August 22nd 08 01:38 AM

How many houses...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:57:10 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:13:27 -0400, hk wrote:

My point was and is that I think McCain is disconnected from the harsh
reality facing tens of millions of Americans and, worse, he doesn't give
a damn, either.
Really?

A man who has never held a real job, spent any time in the military
and has lived a majority of his time on Earth at the expense of
charitable foundations or the American taxpayer - who made $4,000,000
last year, lives in a $1.3 million dollar house which he bought from a
corrupt developer in a shady deal for $900,000, thinks that your
average American clings to religion and guns is a rational explanation
for not voting for him, has no legal opinions of note, no legislation
of note, was considered unremarkable as a "constitutional scholar",
consorts with black racists and white radical terrorists one of whom
did something that Osama ibn Laden wasn't able to do and that was bomb
the US Capitol building and thinks that the average American buys
arugula instead of lettuce, he got an earmark for the hospital Mrs.
Obama worked for $3,000,000 and magically and subseguently her pay
went from $120,000 to $350,000 in a remarkable coincidence.

Oh yeah - you've got a real winner there Harry - a real prize -
somebody who can relate to the "average" American.

"A man who has never...spent any time in the military..." sounds like a
great step forward. We have a president who "spent time in the military"
right now, and he's an incompetent fool.

I don't think one day of McCain's military experience is relevant to the
job he is seeking.


You sure as hell did when Kerry was running.


Only in comparison to Bush's dangerous service with the Texas Air
National Guard, and Cheney and Rumsfeld's war mongering in the face of
non-service.

By itself, it has no relevance. What's relevant is having the smarts to
avoid wars or to find a way to extricate a country from an ongoing war.

BTW, the Bush Admin today agreed to a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq.


Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 22nd 08 01:59 AM

How many houses...
 
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:38:39 -0400, hk wrote:

I don't think one day of McCain's military experience is relevant to the
job he is seeking.


You sure as hell did when Kerry was running.


Only in comparison to Bush's dangerous service with the Texas Air
National Guard, and Cheney and Rumsfeld's war mongering in the face of
non-service.

By itself, it has no relevance. What's relevant is having the smarts to
avoid wars or to find a way to extricate a country from an ongoing war.


So let me see if I understand you.

1 - By comparison, Kerry's military combat record was relevant becasue
Bush never saw combat and thus was the superior candidate.

2 - Kerry had military combat experience and the VP and SecDef at that
time didn't thus making him the superior candidate.

3 - Based on one and two, Kerry was the superior candidate because he
had more military experience than the Administration had.

4 - It was relevant then, but not relevant now.

I understand completely.

I know some farmers who would love to hire you to fertilize their
fields because their entire herd of cows aren't as full of what makes
the grass grow green as you are.

BAR[_2_] August 22nd 08 02:00 AM

How many houses...
 
hk wrote:
...do you own?

3?
4?
5?
6?
7?


John McCain, who said some months ago he didn't know much about the
economy, yesterday said he didn't know how many houses he owned, and how
many houses his wife owned.

(The answer for McCain and spouse is at least seven houses.)

I'm sure the millions of Americans who recently lost their houses, or
are about to, or are hoping they won't in the future, can identify with
the ultra-rich McCains and McCain's possible running mate, the
ultra-rich Mitt Romney.

John McCain, the man for the middle class. snerk


As it turns out John McCain doesn't own any houses and has built a wall
between his and his wife's finances. So, not knowing how many houses his
wife has is a good ethically speaking. But, you wouldn't understand that.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 22nd 08 02:02 AM

How many houses...
 
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:52:58 -0400, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote in message
...

Democrats always fall this cult of personality like they have done for
Obama..It is part of their pathology of wanting to be taken care of by
a father figure. Remember how many Dems thought papa Joe Stalin was
ok and they went into near depression when Krushev denounced him?
Remember how many Dems went gaga over Mao? They always do this
because the average Dem isnt smart enough to take care of himself so
they need an authority figure to tell them what to do.

No offense, but that is the biggest crop of crap I have seen posted here
in a long, long time.

If you want political cult of personality in this country, look no farther
than Ronald Reagan, and the efforts of Republicans to name every damned
thing everywhere after him.

How many Democrats thought Stalin was OK? How many went gaga over Mao? I'm
old enough and educated enough to remember both of those guys, and I
recall reading many times that Roosevelt, the leading Democrat of his
time, had nothing but disdain for Stalin. His successor, Harry S Truman,
had no use for Stalin, either.

What you posted is bull**** piled upon bull**** piled upon bull****.


heh, heh, heh.

Got to ya, huh?

Consider this. That's how many of us feel about a lot of your posts.


It didn't get to me.


Oh yes it did.

Tell me - when Hillary pulls off her coup and steals the nomination,
what spin will you be using then?


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