Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New
Bern and Edenton boat-building plants.

The employees were told Thursday morning that the cuts were effective
immediately. They affect salaried and hourly employees in the 960-person
Hatteras work force and the 95-person Albermarle staff and are terminations.
"We had a lot of good people go out the door today," said Dan Kubera,
director of media relations and corporate communications for parent
company Brunswick in Lake Forest, Ill.

Company officials told employees it will reduce production for the 2009
model year and resize its organization to be more competitive and
profitable in the current market, he said.

The company did not give a breakdown of how many of the 325 employees
worked at New Bern and how many at Edenton.

"As with most other U.S. boat makers, these brands have been doing their
best to confront a weak domestic marine industry," said Keri Theophilus,
president of The Hatteras Collection, based in New Bern and Edenton.

Theophilus said: "We have done so by growing sales outside of the U.S.,
better controlling costs and taking a number of other measures,"
Theophilus said.

"Unfortunately, these efforts have not totally mitigated the reduced
sales activity being experienced in the U.S. marine marketplace, nor
addressed our long-term need to fashion a smaller and more agile
organization that can prosper and effectively compete not only in
current market conditions, but in the market upswing when it occurs.

"With a responsibility to ensure the financial strength and equity of
these brands, we have adjusted production rates downward at our
manufacturing facilities. Unfortunately, this production adjustment
dictates a necessary and accompanying reduction of employment."

"While we regret having to take these actions, we recognize the need for
effective pipeline management to safeguard the financial health of both
our brands and our dealer network.

"This decision is no reflection upon our work force, but the result of
current economic realities and, just as importantly, our need to reflect
market demand going forward with a leaner, more efficient organization."

Kubera said, "The company has been doing a number of things to
counteract the weakness in the domestic market but unfortunately it was
not enough. These job losses are not a furlough, not temporary; these
positions are permanently eliminated."

He said action began in June to cut $300 million in costs, including
cuts at the Navassa Plant in Brunswick County.

Officials said the company will help employees find other jobs.

The last major cutback at Hatteras was in January 2003, when 250 jobs
were eliminated in New Bern.

New Bern Sun Journal Aug 14, 2008


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If you really want to talk boating or fishing, you're in the wrong
place. rec.boats is the domain of the Seven Little Schitts, who mostly
talk trash. The current members are "Reggie," Loogy, Florida Jim,
DK, BAR and JohnH, and alternates Mike and an occasional
floater.

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Aug 16, 9:46 pm, hk wrote:
The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New
Bern and Edenton boat-building plants.

The employees were told Thursday morning that the cuts were effective
immediately. They affect salaried and hourly employees in the 960-person
Hatteras work force and the 95-person Albermarle staff and are terminations.
"We had a lot of good people go out the door today," said Dan Kubera,
director of media relations and corporate communications for parent
company Brunswick in Lake Forest, Ill.

Company officials told employees it will reduce production for the 2009
model year and resize its organization to be more competitive and
profitable in the current market, he said.

The company did not give a breakdown of how many of the 325 employees
worked at New Bern and how many at Edenton.

"As with most other U.S. boat makers, these brands have been doing their
best to confront a weak domestic marine industry," said Keri Theophilus,
president of The Hatteras Collection, based in New Bern and Edenton.

Theophilus said: "We have done so by growing sales outside of the U.S.,
better controlling costs and taking a number of other measures,"
Theophilus said.

"Unfortunately, these efforts have not totally mitigated the reduced
sales activity being experienced in the U.S. marine marketplace, nor
addressed our long-term need to fashion a smaller and more agile
organization that can prosper and effectively compete not only in
current market conditions, but in the market upswing when it occurs.

"With a responsibility to ensure the financial strength and equity of
these brands, we have adjusted production rates downward at our
manufacturing facilities. Unfortunately, this production adjustment
dictates a necessary and accompanying reduction of employment."

"While we regret having to take these actions, we recognize the need for
effective pipeline management to safeguard the financial health of both
our brands and our dealer network.

"This decision is no reflection upon our work force, but the result of
current economic realities and, just as importantly, our need to reflect
market demand going forward with a leaner, more efficient organization."

Kubera said, "The company has been doing a number of things to
counteract the weakness in the domestic market but unfortunately it was
not enough. These job losses are not a furlough, not temporary; these
positions are permanently eliminated."

He said action began in June to cut $300 million in costs, including
cuts at the Navassa Plant in Brunswick County.

Officials said the company will help employees find other jobs.

The last major cutback at Hatteras was in January 2003, when 250 jobs
were eliminated in New Bern.

New Bern Sun Journal Aug 14, 2008

--
If you really want to talk boating or fishing, you're in the wrong
place. rec.boats is the domain of the Seven Little Schitts, who mostly
talk trash. The current members are "Reggie," Loogy, Florida Jim,
DK, BAR and JohnH, and alternates Mike and an occasional
floater.

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.

That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New
Bern and Edenton boat-building plants.

The employees were told Thursday morning that the cuts were effective
immediately. They affect salaried and hourly employees in the 960-person
Hatteras work force and the 95-person Albermarle staff and are
terminations.
"We had a lot of good people go out the door today," said Dan Kubera,
director of media relations and corporate communications for parent
company Brunswick in Lake Forest, Ill.

Company officials told employees it will reduce production for the 2009
model year and resize its organization to be more competitive and
profitable in the current market, he said.

The company did not give a breakdown of how many of the 325 employees
worked at New Bern and how many at Edenton.

"As with most other U.S. boat makers, these brands have been doing their
best to confront a weak domestic marine industry," said Keri Theophilus,
president of The Hatteras Collection, based in New Bern and Edenton.

Theophilus said: "We have done so by growing sales outside of the U.S.,
better controlling costs and taking a number of other measures,"
Theophilus said.

"Unfortunately, these efforts have not totally mitigated the reduced
sales activity being experienced in the U.S. marine marketplace, nor
addressed our long-term need to fashion a smaller and more agile
organization that can prosper and effectively compete not only in
current market conditions, but in the market upswing when it occurs.

"With a responsibility to ensure the financial strength and equity of
these brands, we have adjusted production rates downward at our
manufacturing facilities. Unfortunately, this production adjustment
dictates a necessary and accompanying reduction of employment."

"While we regret having to take these actions, we recognize the need for
effective pipeline management to safeguard the financial health of both
our brands and our dealer network.

"This decision is no reflection upon our work force, but the result of
current economic realities and, just as importantly, our need to reflect
market demand going forward with a leaner, more efficient organization."

Kubera said, "The company has been doing a number of things to
counteract the weakness in the domestic market but unfortunately it was
not enough. These job losses are not a furlough, not temporary; these
positions are permanently eliminated."

He said action began in June to cut $300 million in costs, including
cuts at the Navassa Plant in Brunswick County.

Officials said the company will help employees find other jobs.

The last major cutback at Hatteras was in January 2003, when 250 jobs
were eliminated in New Bern.

New Bern Sun Journal Aug 14, 2008
That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Hatteras and Albermarle are quality boats. Quality costs more. Would you
prefer that only boat brands affordable to the "common folks" survive this
economic downturn? Even "common folk" aspire to own brands better than
Bayliner and Parker. A gently used quality boat is often a better buy than
a new offering from one of the lesser brands. I would rather see a company
survive because they make good products rather than because they produce
shoddily made products, of inferior materials, to keep prices down.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Sure you can.

The only reason you don't is because you can't find one for $1,200 and
tow it behind a 1969 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser. :)

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0400, hk wrote:

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.

Please do go there.

Please.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0400, hk wrote:

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.

Please do go there.

Please.


I do...:) I wouldn't have recommended it if I didn't read and post there.

--


Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0400, hk wrote:

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.

Please do go there.

Please.


I do...:) I wouldn't have recommended it if I didn't read and post there.

Harry,
In the last year, you have made a total of 40 posts in thehulltruth.com.
Heck, you make that many in rec.boats in an hour.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Aug 17, 6:07 am, "Jim" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...



The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New
Bern and Edenton boat-building plants.

The employees were told Thursday morning that the cuts were effective
immediately. They affect salaried and hourly employees in the 960-person
Hatteras work force and the 95-person Albermarle staff and are
terminations.
"We had a lot of good people go out the door today," said Dan Kubera,
director of media relations and corporate communications for parent
company Brunswick in Lake Forest, Ill.

Company officials told employees it will reduce production for the 2009
model year and resize its organization to be more competitive and
profitable in the current market, he said.

The company did not give a breakdown of how many of the 325 employees
worked at New Bern and how many at Edenton.

"As with most other U.S. boat makers, these brands have been doing their
best to confront a weak domestic marine industry," said Keri Theophilus,
president of The Hatteras Collection, based in New Bern and Edenton.

Theophilus said: "We have done so by growing sales outside of the U.S.,
better controlling costs and taking a number of other measures,"
Theophilus said.

"Unfortunately, these efforts have not totally mitigated the reduced
sales activity being experienced in the U.S. marine marketplace, nor
addressed our long-term need to fashion a smaller and more agile
organization that can prosper and effectively compete not only in
current market conditions, but in the market upswing when it occurs.

"With a responsibility to ensure the financial strength and equity of
these brands, we have adjusted production rates downward at our
manufacturing facilities. Unfortunately, this production adjustment
dictates a necessary and accompanying reduction of employment."

"While we regret having to take these actions, we recognize the need for
effective pipeline management to safeguard the financial health of both
our brands and our dealer network.

"This decision is no reflection upon our work force, but the result of
current economic realities and, just as importantly, our need to reflect
market demand going forward with a leaner, more efficient organization."

Kubera said, "The company has been doing a number of things to
counteract the weakness in the domestic market but unfortunately it was
not enough. These job losses are not a furlough, not temporary; these
positions are permanently eliminated."

He said action began in June to cut $300 million in costs, including
cuts at the Navassa Plant in Brunswick County.

Officials said the company will help employees find other jobs.

The last major cutback at Hatteras was in January 2003, when 250 jobs
were eliminated in New Bern.

New Bern Sun Journal Aug 14, 2008
That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Hatteras and Albermarle are quality boats. Quality costs more. Would you
prefer that only boat brands affordable to the "common folks" survive this
economic downturn? Even "common folk" aspire to own brands better than
Bayliner and Parker. A gently used quality boat is often a better buy than
a new offering from one of the lesser brands. I would rather see a company
survive because they make good products rather than because they produce
shoddily made products, of inferior materials, to keep prices down.

Now what an amazing and informative post. Nobody ever said anything
about sacrificing quality for economy. When was Hat. ever in the
cuddie or run-a-bout business? Never that I know of. I don't think
they'd allow themselves stoop that low. However if HAT was making
those kind of craft with their name brand quality they'd be
diversifying their marketability offerings, and it could have made a
difference in their work force either making boats of standing in the
soup line.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Aug 17, 6:28 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Sure you can.

The only reason you don't is because you can't find one for $1,200 and
tow it behind a 1969 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser. :)

Yes. Quite a shame I can't find a Vista Cruiser *sniff* So I have to
settle on a 1990 Colony Park wagon

http://aswoa.com/main/wp-content/upl...back_small.jpg

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Aug 17, 6:28 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Sure you can.

The only reason you don't is because you can't find one for $1,200 and
tow it behind a 1969 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser. :)

Yes. Quite a shame I can't find a Vista Cruiser *sniff* So I have to
settle on a 1990 Colony Park wagon

http://aswoa.com/main/wp-content/upl...back_small.jpg

Someone had a big Vista Cruiser wagon in our local car show last month.
If I had known you were a fan, I would have taken a pic or two. ;-)

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0400, hk wrote:

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.

Please do go there.

Please.


I do...:) I wouldn't have recommended it if I didn't read and post
there.

Harry,
In the last year, you have made a total of 40 posts in thehulltruth.com.
Heck, you make that many in rec.boats in an hour.

Maybe with the quality of fellow posters over there, there's no need for
repeating yourself or pointing out the obvious.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

Don White wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0400, hk wrote:

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.
Please do go there.

Please.

I do...:) I wouldn't have recommended it if I didn't read and post
there.

Harry,
In the last year, you have made a total of 40 posts in thehulltruth.com.
Heck, you make that many in rec.boats in an hour.

Maybe with the quality of fellow posters over there, there's no need for
repeating yourself or pointing out the obvious.




You know, if I handed reggie a roll of toilet paper, he probably could
earn a better living than he is now by traveling around wiping butts. He
sure likes to sniff up them. :)


--
If you want to talk boating or fishing, you're in the wrong place.
rec.boats is the domain of the Seven Little Schitts, who mostly
talk trash. The current members are "Reggie," Loogy, Florida Jim,
DK, BAR and JohnH, and alternates Mike and an occasional
floater.

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Aug 17, 10:26 am, hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0400, hk wrote:

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.
Please do go there.

Please.

I do...:) I wouldn't have recommended it if I didn't read and post
there.

Harry,
In the last year, you have made a total of 40 posts in thehulltruth.com.
Heck, you make that many in rec.boats in an hour.

Maybe with the quality of fellow posters over there, there's no need for
repeating yourself or pointing out the obvious.

You know, if I handed reggie a roll of toilet paper, he probably could
earn a better living than he is now by traveling around wiping butts. He
sure likes to sniff up them. :)

--
If you want to talk boating or fishing, you're in the wrong place.
rec.boats is the domain of the Seven Little Schitts, who mostly
talk trash. The current members are "Reggie," Loogy, Florida Jim,
DK, BAR and JohnH, and alternates Mike and an occasional
floater.

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.

Around here we consider an oyster boat carrying a 6-pack of Bud to be
a yacht. The demise of rich peoples boats will have no affect on me.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 16, 9:46 pm, hk wrote:
The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New
Bern and Edenton boat-building plants.


That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

When America had plenty of production jobs the job losses wouldn't be
a big deal. Now that most of what we use is made elsewhere, every job
loss hurts.

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Once you get past the initial purchase nut, keeping it in the barn,
and the semi to tow it to lake Carlyle, it may be economical.
Some of those big Hatteras' may get better mileage than the Marquis.
Hatteras made some fuel sippers according to the Boattest article
below.
"A 6300 Hatteras Motoryacht (115,000 lbs. Powered by 2x1400-hp Cats):
550 rpm, 8.1 mph, 4.05 mpg.)"
http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...spx?NewsID=989

Of course I'm not vouching for the accuracy of any of this, but I did
find the mpg differences interesting.

--Vic

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Aug 17, 10:26*am, hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0400, hk wrote:

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.
Please do go there.

Please.

I do...:) *I wouldn't have recommended it if I didn't read and post
there.

Harry,
In the last year, you have made a total of 40 posts in thehulltruth.com.
Heck, you make that many in rec.boats in an hour.

Maybe with the quality of fellow posters over there, there's no need for
repeating yourself or pointing out the obvious.

You know, if I handed reggie a roll of toilet paper, he probably could
earn a better living than he is now by traveling around wiping butts. He
sure likes to sniff up them. :)

Please, tell the group what you know about Reggie's line of work. Or,
are you just lying like usual?

--
If you want to talk boating or fishing, you're in the wrong place.
rec.boats is the domain of the Seven Little Schitts, who mostly
talk trash. The current members are "Reggie," Loogy, Florida Jim,
DK, BAR and JohnH, and alternates Mike and an occasional
floater.

Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards
if you want to talk about boats.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
It's cute how Harry has to mention us in every single post he makes,
but then says he doesn't come here except to watch.

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Aug 17, 11:48 am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 16, 9:46 pm, hk wrote:
The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New
Bern and Edenton boat-building plants.

That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

When America had plenty of production jobs the job losses wouldn't be
a big deal. Now that most of what we use is made elsewhere, every job
loss hurts.

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Once you get past the initial purchase nut, keeping it in the barn,
and the semi to tow it to lake Carlyle, it may be economical.
Some of those big Hatteras' may get better mileage than the Marquis.
Hatteras made some fuel sippers according to the Boattest article
below.
"A 6300 Hatteras Motoryacht (115,000 lbs. Powered by 2x1400-hp Cats):
550 rpm, 8.1 mph, 4.05 mpg.)"http://www.boattest.com/Resources/view_news.aspx?NewsID=989

Of course I'm not vouching for the accuracy of any of this, but I did
find the mpg differences interesting.

--Vic

Vic, here's what i was thinking of.
http://www.chriscraft.com/lancer_20_oview.aspx

Chris Craft makes some pretty big tubs too! But... that's not all they
make. They've done a pretty good job of catering to just about anyone
that wants something more than a jon boat for years. Seems like Hat.
hasn't and that might be part of their problem. OH, there's lots of
people that would pay premium for a luxury Cuddie of a runabout, and
I think that they probably could have used that niche market about
now. I think they should have diversified their product line years
ago, instead of relying on their cult-like following for their
Hatteras (as Chuck would say) "Bluewater Battlewagons"

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:31:29 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



Vic, here's what i was thinking of.
http://www.chriscraft.com/lancer_20_oview.aspx

Chris Craft makes some pretty big tubs too! But... that's not all they
make. They've done a pretty good job of catering to just about anyone
that wants something more than a jon boat for years. Seems like Hat.
hasn't and that might be part of their problem. OH, there's lots of
people that would pay premium for a luxury Cuddie of a runabout, and
I think that they probably could have used that niche market about
now. I think they should have diversified their product line years
ago, instead of relying on their cult-like following for their
Hatteras (as Chuck would say) "Bluewater Battlewagons"

Nice boat, but not for this fisherman!
As far as targeting markets with a product line, Hatteras is no
different than other "big boat" companies. It's in their blood, it's
their specialty, and they have no interest in the other lines.
Sort of like Boeing not making auto-gyros and hang-gliders.
That's just my guess and I'm not sure.
I suspect Hatteras was ramped up for the recent good-for-them
economics, and will ramp down for present economics, but still
maintain their "core" customers and be happy with that.

--Vic

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

On Aug 17, 12:31*pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 17, 11:48 am, Vic Smith
wrote:





On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 16, 9:46 pm, hk wrote:
The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New
Bern and Edenton boat-building plants.

That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

When America had plenty of production jobs the job losses wouldn't be
a big deal. *Now that most of what we use is made elsewhere, every job
loss hurts.

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Once you get past the initial purchase nut, keeping it in the barn,
and the semi to tow it to lake Carlyle, it may be economical.
Some of those big Hatteras' may get better mileage than the Marquis.
Hatteras made some fuel sippers according to the Boattest article
below.
"A 6300 Hatteras Motoryacht (115,000 lbs. Powered by 2x1400-hp Cats):
550 rpm, 8.1 mph, 4.05 mpg.)"http://www.boattest.com/Resources/view_news.aspx?NewsID=989

Of course I'm not vouching for the accuracy of any of this, but I did
find the mpg differences interesting.

--Vic

Vic, here's what i was thinking of.http://www.chriscraft.com/lancer_20_oview.aspx

Chris Craft makes some pretty big tubs too! But... that's not all they
make. They've done a pretty good job of catering to just about anyone
that wants something more than a jon boat for years. Seems like Hat.
hasn't and that might be part of their problem. OH, there's lots of
people that would pay premium for a luxury Cuddie *of a runabout, and
I think that they probably could have used that niche market about
now. I think they should have diversified their product line years
ago, instead of relying on their cult-like following for their
Hatteras (as Chuck would say) "Bluewater Battlewagons"- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

ohhhhhh yeaaaah!
http://www.chriscraft.com/corsair_33_oview.aspx

Hatteras Cuts a Third of Workforce
 

Tim wrote:
On Aug 17, 12:31 pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 17, 11:48 am, Vic Smith
wrote:





On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 16, 9:46 pm, hk wrote:
The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New
Bern and Edenton boat-building plants.
That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?
When America had plenty of production jobs the job losses wouldn't be
a big deal. Now that most of what we use is made elsewhere, every job
loss hurts.
I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.
Once you get past the initial purchase nut, keeping it in the barn,
and the semi to tow it to lake Carlyle, it may be economical.
Some of those big Hatteras' may get better mileage than the Marquis.
Hatteras made some fuel sippers according to the Boattest article
below.
"A 6300 Hatteras Motoryacht (115,000 lbs. Powered by 2x1400-hp Cats):
550 rpm, 8.1 mph, 4.05 mpg.)"http://www.boattest.com/Resources/view_news.aspx?NewsID=989
Of course I'm not vouching for the accuracy of any of this, but I did
find the mpg differences interesting.
--Vic
Vic, here's what i was thinking of.http://www.chriscraft.com/lancer_20_oview.aspx

Chris Craft makes some pretty big tubs too! But... that's not all they
make. They've done a pretty good job of catering to just about anyone
that wants something more than a jon boat for years. Seems like Hat.
hasn't and that might be part of their problem. OH, there's lots of
people that would pay premium for a luxury Cuddie of a runabout, and
I think that they probably could have used that niche market about
now. I think they should have diversified their product line years
ago, instead of relying on their cult-like following for their
Hatteras (as Chuck would say) "Bluewater Battlewagons"- Hide quoted text -

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ohhhhhh yeaaaah!
http://www.chriscraft.com/corsair_33_oview.aspx


--


As nice looking as some of the new Chris Crafts are, they're no more
Chris-Crafts than today's Evinrudes are Evinrudes. The Chris-Craft
company is long gone. What you have today is a corporation that bought
use of the Chris-Craft name. Evinrude was the family name of its
"inventor" and the company later became OMC under the direction of an
Evinrude son. When OMC died, so did the connection to the Evinrude
family. The company and its assets were sold off, and then sold off
again. Today, Evinrudes are produced by a subsidiary of Bombardier, a
Canadian corporation. These aren't negatives; at least the historical
name survives.

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:49:47 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



ohhhhhh yeaaaah!
http://www.chriscraft.com/corsair_33_oview.aspx

You're a speed demon! You and SW should make a pair.

--Vic

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On Aug 17, 1:09*pm, hk wrote:

As nice looking as some of the new Chris Crafts are, they're no more
Chris-Crafts than today's Evinrudes are Evinrudes. The Chris-Craft
company is long gone. What you have today is a corporation that bought
use of the Chris-Craft name.

Oh yeas, I called a CC dealer for some info and he told me tat CC had
been bought and sold at leat four times since my boat was new in 1983.

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:26 am, hk wrote:


Around here we consider an oyster boat carrying a 6-pack of Bud to be
a yacht. The demise of rich peoples boats will have no affect on me.




In reality, it isn't the boats that matter; it is the loss of more
industrial jobs.

The job losses are unfortunate. But weren't you also questioning the
justification of big, high fuel usage boats recently? Weren't you in favor
of a big tax on use and/or ownership of larger boats because they used more
fuel than you thought reasonable? Seems to me that your own bias leads to
job losses as well.

You can't have it both ways.

Eisboch

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...


Nice boat, but not for this fisherman!
As far as targeting markets with a product line, Hatteras is no
different than other "big boat" companies. It's in their blood, it's
their specialty, and they have no interest in the other lines.
Sort of like Boeing not making auto-gyros and hang-gliders.
That's just my guess and I'm not sure.
I suspect Hatteras was ramped up for the recent good-for-them
economics, and will ramp down for present economics, but still
maintain their "core" customers and be happy with that.

--Vic

Yup. It's supply and demand.

I hope boat companies like Hatteras *never* have to resort to building
cheap, "me too" boats.

Eisboch

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:48:32 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

As far as targeting markets with a product line, Hatteras is no
different than other "big boat" companies. It's in their blood, it's
their specialty, and they have no interest in the other lines.

It's important to remember that Hatteras is really Brunswick, and
Brunswick has the small boat market very well covered. Hatteras never
produced small boats because that was not their area of expertise.
While the market for big sportfish and motor yachts may haved slowed
it has by no means gone away.

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:26 am, hk wrote:
Around here we consider an oyster boat carrying a 6-pack of Bud to be
a yacht. The demise of rich peoples boats will have no affect on me.



In reality, it isn't the boats that matter; it is the loss of more
industrial jobs.

The job losses are unfortunate. But weren't you also questioning the
justification of big, high fuel usage boats recently? Weren't you in favor
of a big tax on use and/or ownership of larger boats because they used more
fuel than you thought reasonable? Seems to me that your own bias leads to
job losses as well.

You can't have it both ways.

Eisboch




Sure you can, if you start making "green" manufactured products that
serve the transportation needs of the populace. That way, skilled
workers can find new jobs that pay family supporting wages with benefits.

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"hk" wrote in message
.com...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:26 am, hk wrote:
Around here we consider an oyster boat carrying a 6-pack of Bud to be
a yacht. The demise of rich peoples boats will have no affect on me.



In reality, it isn't the boats that matter; it is the loss of more
industrial jobs.

The job losses are unfortunate. But weren't you also questioning the
justification of big, high fuel usage boats recently? Weren't you in
favor of a big tax on use and/or ownership of larger boats because they
used more fuel than you thought reasonable? Seems to me that your own
bias leads to job losses as well.

You can't have it both ways.

Eisboch


Sure you can, if you start making "green" manufactured products that serve
the transportation needs of the populace. That way, skilled workers can
find new jobs that pay family supporting wages with benefits.


You've been listening to BObama too much. He preaches the same kind of
non-specific rhetoric.

Eisboch

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:48:32 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

As far as targeting markets with a product line, Hatteras is no
different than other "big boat" companies. It's in their blood, it's
their specialty, and they have no interest in the other lines.

It's important to remember that Hatteras is really Brunswick, and
Brunswick has the small boat market very well covered. Hatteras never
produced small boats because that was not their area of expertise.
While the market for big sportfish and motor yachts may haved slowed
it has by no means gone away.

What about bowling alleys? 8)

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.com...


The last time Hatteras took it on the chin like this was when GHWB's
administration put a "luxury tax" on boats. In essence, it closed the
original Hatteras facility in High Point for good....
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A9679582 60



I goes without saying that the current issue is fuel costs. Everyone has
a limit to what they are willing to pay for recreational enjoyment.

We had friends visiting today from Germany and we got on the subject of
boats, cars, the high cost of fuel and how it was affecting our respective
countries. He told me that in Germany, people scoff at us Americans
complaining about our 4 buck a gallon fuel. They are paying well over
$9/gallon (equivalent in liters).

The unemployment rate in Germany also remains very high .... over 10
percent.

He is seriously considering relocating to the USA.

Eisboch

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:03:32 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

The last time Hatteras took it on the chin like this was when GHWB's
administration put a "luxury tax" on boats. In essence, it closed the
original Hatteras facility in High Point for good....
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A9679582 60

Um...no?

That was strictly the work of Ted Kennedy, et.al. - I remember it
well.

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.com...


The last time Hatteras took it on the chin like this was when GHWB's
administration put a "luxury tax" on boats. In essence, it closed the
original Hatteras facility in High Point for good....
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A9679582 60



I goes without saying that the current issue is fuel costs. Everyone
has a limit to what they are willing to pay for recreational enjoyment.

We had friends visiting today from Germany and we got on the subject of
boats, cars, the high cost of fuel and how it was affecting our respective
countries. He told me that in Germany, people scoff at us Americans
complaining about our 4 buck a gallon fuel. They are paying well over
$9/gallon (equivalent in liters).

The unemployment rate in Germany also remains very high .... over 10
percent.

He is seriously considering relocating to the USA.

Eisboch


I think some of the blame for boat biz decline can be placed on the housing
mortgage debacle. If your home is in foreclosure you probably won't be
buying a yacht.

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:21:48 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:42:34 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:03:32 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

The last time Hatteras took it on the chin like this was when GHWB's
administration put a "luxury tax" on boats. In essence, it closed the
original Hatteras facility in High Point for good....
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A9679582 60

Um...no?

That was strictly the work of Ted Kennedy, et.al. - I remember it
well.

Who was president?

Who initiated the legislation? Who sponsored the bill? Who passed it
with a veto proof majority?

Hmmmm?

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:03:32 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

The last time Hatteras took it on the chin like this was when GHWB's
administration put a "luxury tax" on boats. In essence, it closed the
original Hatteras facility in High Point for good....
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A9679582 60

Um...no?

That was strictly the work of Ted Kennedy, et.al. - I remember it
well.


What we have now is a Dubya-Dick "luxury tax," part and parcel of an
administration too busy to promote sensible energy policies because the
ones we have now make their buddies rich.

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On Aug 17, 6:45*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

...







"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
e.com...

The last time Hatteras took it on the chin like this was when GHWB's
administration put a "luxury tax" on boats. In essence, it closed the
original Hatteras facility in High Point for good....
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...1430F930A35752....

I goes without saying that the current issue is fuel costs. * *Everyone
has a limit to what they are willing to pay for recreational enjoyment.

We had friends visiting today from Germany and we got on the subject of
boats, cars, the high cost of fuel and how it was affecting our respective
countries. * He told me that in Germany, people scoff at us Americans
complaining about our 4 buck a gallon fuel. * They are paying well over
$9/gallon *(equivalent in liters).

The unemployment rate in Germany also remains very high .... over 10
percent.

He is seriously considering relocating to the USA.

Eisboch

I think some of the blame for boat biz decline can be placed on the housing
mortgage debacle. *If your home is in foreclosure you probably won't be
buying a yacht.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Or, you bought a yacht, and now your home is in forclosure.

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Hopefully Gene will get sick of your trolls soon enough, this is
getting rediculous.. You have been trolling all night...

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:10:35 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:03:32 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

The last time Hatteras took it on the chin like this was when GHWB's
administration put a "luxury tax" on boats. In essence, it closed the
original Hatteras facility in High Point for good....
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A9679582 60

Um...no?

That was strictly the work of Ted Kennedy, et.al. - I remember it
well.


What we have now is a Dubya-Dick "luxury tax," part and parcel of an
administration too busy to promote sensible energy policies because the
ones we have now make their buddies rich.

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On Aug 17, 6:28*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Sure you can.

The only reason you don't is because you can't find one for $1,200 and
tow it behind a 1969 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser. *:)

Hey, if you could find a new Hatteras for $1200.00 , you'd buy it too!

(Then throw the Olds on the fore deck )

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On Aug 17, 9:15*am, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...





On Aug 17, 6:28 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Sure you can.

The only reason you don't is because you can't find one for $1,200 and
tow it behind a 1969 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser. *:)

Yes. Quite a shame I can't find a Vista Cruiser *sniff* *So I have to
settle on a 1990 Colony Park wagon

http://aswoa.com/main/wp-content/upl...that_came_back...

Someone had a big Vista Cruiser wagon in our local car show last month.
If I had known you were a fan, I would have taken a pic or two. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I love wagons, Don. I grew up in one of these '60 Plymouth with 383
auto

http://www.lastsummer.com/wagon/aply.jpg

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On Aug 17, 11:04*pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 17, 9:15*am, "Don White" wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message

....

On Aug 17, 6:28 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think
that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do
they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00?

I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one.

Sure you can.

The only reason you don't is because you can't find one for $1,200 and
tow it behind a 1969 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser. *:)

Yes. Quite a shame I can't find a Vista Cruiser *sniff* *So I have to
settle on a 1990 Colony Park wagon

http://aswoa.com/main/wp-content/upl...that_came_back....

Someone had a big Vista Cruiser wagon in our local car show last month.
If I had known you were a fan, I would have taken a pic or two. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I love wagons, Don. I grew up in one of these '60 Plymouth with 383
auto

http://www.lastsummer.com/wagon/aply.jpg- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then dad got one of these. '66 woth 389 4-v carb Now were movin'!

http://www.vintagedreamcars.com/Copy...20DSC07278.JPG

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"hk" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:03:32 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

The last time Hatteras took it on the chin like this was when GHWB's
administration put a "luxury tax" on boats. In essence, it closed the
original Hatteras facility in High Point for good....
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A9679582 60

Um...no?

That was strictly the work of Ted Kennedy, et.al. - I remember it
well.


What we have now is a Dubya-Dick "luxury tax," part and parcel of an
administration too busy to promote sensible energy policies because the
ones we have now make their buddies rich.

Your comment is not only off topic for this discussion, it makes no sense at
all. However this is typical of your posting behavior; and, apparently Gene
hasn't figured out the appropriate way to filter you yet, but he will. :-)

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RMR wrote:
Hopefully Gene will get sick of your trolls soon enough, this is
getting rediculous.. You have been trolling all night...

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:10:35 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:03:32 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

The last time Hatteras took it on the chin like this was when GHWB's
administration put a "luxury tax" on boats. In essence, it closed the
original Hatteras facility in High Point for good....
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A9679582 60
Um...no?

That was strictly the work of Ted Kennedy, et.al. - I remember it
well.

What we have now is a Dubya-Dick "luxury tax," part and parcel of an
administration too busy to promote sensible energy policies because the
ones we have now make their buddies rich.



If you are too busy helping your super rich friends make money off
artificially high oil prices, you don't have much time to develop a
national energy policy that makes sense for those who are not super rich.

Think about it.