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On Aug 17, 11:48 am, Vic Smith
wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Aug 16, 9:46 pm, hk wrote: The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New Bern and Edenton boat-building plants. That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00? When America had plenty of production jobs the job losses wouldn't be a big deal. Now that most of what we use is made elsewhere, every job loss hurts. I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one. Once you get past the initial purchase nut, keeping it in the barn, and the semi to tow it to lake Carlyle, it may be economical. Some of those big Hatteras' may get better mileage than the Marquis. Hatteras made some fuel sippers according to the Boattest article below. "A 6300 Hatteras Motoryacht (115,000 lbs. Powered by 2x1400-hp Cats): 550 rpm, 8.1 mph, 4.05 mpg.)"http://www.boattest.com/Resources/view_news.aspx?NewsID=989 Of course I'm not vouching for the accuracy of any of this, but I did find the mpg differences interesting. --Vic Vic, here's what i was thinking of. http://www.chriscraft.com/lancer_20_oview.aspx Chris Craft makes some pretty big tubs too! But... that's not all they make. They've done a pretty good job of catering to just about anyone that wants something more than a jon boat for years. Seems like Hat. hasn't and that might be part of their problem. OH, there's lots of people that would pay premium for a luxury Cuddie of a runabout, and I think that they probably could have used that niche market about now. I think they should have diversified their product line years ago, instead of relying on their cult-like following for their Hatteras (as Chuck would say) "Bluewater Battlewagons" |
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:31:29 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Vic, here's what i was thinking of. http://www.chriscraft.com/lancer_20_oview.aspx Chris Craft makes some pretty big tubs too! But... that's not all they make. They've done a pretty good job of catering to just about anyone that wants something more than a jon boat for years. Seems like Hat. hasn't and that might be part of their problem. OH, there's lots of people that would pay premium for a luxury Cuddie of a runabout, and I think that they probably could have used that niche market about now. I think they should have diversified their product line years ago, instead of relying on their cult-like following for their Hatteras (as Chuck would say) "Bluewater Battlewagons" Nice boat, but not for this fisherman! As far as targeting markets with a product line, Hatteras is no different than other "big boat" companies. It's in their blood, it's their specialty, and they have no interest in the other lines. Sort of like Boeing not making auto-gyros and hang-gliders. That's just my guess and I'm not sure. I suspect Hatteras was ramped up for the recent good-for-them economics, and will ramp down for present economics, but still maintain their "core" customers and be happy with that. --Vic |
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![]() "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... Nice boat, but not for this fisherman! As far as targeting markets with a product line, Hatteras is no different than other "big boat" companies. It's in their blood, it's their specialty, and they have no interest in the other lines. Sort of like Boeing not making auto-gyros and hang-gliders. That's just my guess and I'm not sure. I suspect Hatteras was ramped up for the recent good-for-them economics, and will ramp down for present economics, but still maintain their "core" customers and be happy with that. --Vic Yup. It's supply and demand. I hope boat companies like Hatteras *never* have to resort to building cheap, "me too" boats. Eisboch |
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:48:32 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: As far as targeting markets with a product line, Hatteras is no different than other "big boat" companies. It's in their blood, it's their specialty, and they have no interest in the other lines. It's important to remember that Hatteras is really Brunswick, and Brunswick has the small boat market very well covered. Hatteras never produced small boats because that was not their area of expertise. While the market for big sportfish and motor yachts may haved slowed it has by no means gone away. |
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On Aug 17, 12:31*pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 17, 11:48 am, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Aug 16, 9:46 pm, hk wrote: The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New Bern and Edenton boat-building plants. That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00? When America had plenty of production jobs the job losses wouldn't be a big deal. *Now that most of what we use is made elsewhere, every job loss hurts. I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one. Once you get past the initial purchase nut, keeping it in the barn, and the semi to tow it to lake Carlyle, it may be economical. Some of those big Hatteras' may get better mileage than the Marquis. Hatteras made some fuel sippers according to the Boattest article below. "A 6300 Hatteras Motoryacht (115,000 lbs. Powered by 2x1400-hp Cats): 550 rpm, 8.1 mph, 4.05 mpg.)"http://www.boattest.com/Resources/view_news.aspx?NewsID=989 Of course I'm not vouching for the accuracy of any of this, but I did find the mpg differences interesting. --Vic Vic, here's what i was thinking of.http://www.chriscraft.com/lancer_20_oview.aspx Chris Craft makes some pretty big tubs too! But... that's not all they make. They've done a pretty good job of catering to just about anyone that wants something more than a jon boat for years. Seems like Hat. hasn't and that might be part of their problem. OH, there's lots of people that would pay premium for a luxury Cuddie *of a runabout, and I think that they probably could have used that niche market about now. I think they should have diversified their product line years ago, instead of relying on their cult-like following for their Hatteras (as Chuck would say) "Bluewater Battlewagons"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ohhhhhh yeaaaah! http://www.chriscraft.com/corsair_33_oview.aspx |
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Tim wrote:
On Aug 17, 12:31 pm, Tim wrote: On Aug 17, 11:48 am, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Aug 16, 9:46 pm, hk wrote: The parent company of Hatteras Yachts cut 325 jobs Thursday at its New Bern and Edenton boat-building plants. That's a shame to lose that many people, but Then again, I don't think that Hat. caters to "common folks", or that's the way I see it. Do they actually make craft for less than $100,000.00? When America had plenty of production jobs the job losses wouldn't be a big deal. Now that most of what we use is made elsewhere, every job loss hurts. I know I couldn't afford to buy a new one. Once you get past the initial purchase nut, keeping it in the barn, and the semi to tow it to lake Carlyle, it may be economical. Some of those big Hatteras' may get better mileage than the Marquis. Hatteras made some fuel sippers according to the Boattest article below. "A 6300 Hatteras Motoryacht (115,000 lbs. Powered by 2x1400-hp Cats): 550 rpm, 8.1 mph, 4.05 mpg.)"http://www.boattest.com/Resources/view_news.aspx?NewsID=989 Of course I'm not vouching for the accuracy of any of this, but I did find the mpg differences interesting. --Vic Vic, here's what i was thinking of.http://www.chriscraft.com/lancer_20_oview.aspx Chris Craft makes some pretty big tubs too! But... that's not all they make. They've done a pretty good job of catering to just about anyone that wants something more than a jon boat for years. Seems like Hat. hasn't and that might be part of their problem. OH, there's lots of people that would pay premium for a luxury Cuddie of a runabout, and I think that they probably could have used that niche market about now. I think they should have diversified their product line years ago, instead of relying on their cult-like following for their Hatteras (as Chuck would say) "Bluewater Battlewagons"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ohhhhhh yeaaaah! http://www.chriscraft.com/corsair_33_oview.aspx -- As nice looking as some of the new Chris Crafts are, they're no more Chris-Crafts than today's Evinrudes are Evinrudes. The Chris-Craft company is long gone. What you have today is a corporation that bought use of the Chris-Craft name. Evinrude was the family name of its "inventor" and the company later became OMC under the direction of an Evinrude son. When OMC died, so did the connection to the Evinrude family. The company and its assets were sold off, and then sold off again. Today, Evinrudes are produced by a subsidiary of Bombardier, a Canadian corporation. These aren't negatives; at least the historical name survives. |
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:49:47 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: ohhhhhh yeaaaah! http://www.chriscraft.com/corsair_33_oview.aspx You're a speed demon! You and SW should make a pair. --Vic |
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0400, hk wrote:
Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards if you want to talk about boats. Please do go there. Please. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0400, hk wrote: Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards if you want to talk about boats. Please do go there. Please. I do...:) I wouldn't have recommended it if I didn't read and post there. -- Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards if you want to talk about boats. |
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hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0400, hk wrote: Try thehulltruth.com or other properly moderated discussion boards if you want to talk about boats. Please do go there. Please. I do...:) I wouldn't have recommended it if I didn't read and post there. Harry, In the last year, you have made a total of 40 posts in thehulltruth.com. Heck, you make that many in rec.boats in an hour. |
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