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Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:10:58 -0400, hk wrote: By providing a list of popular opera tunes? Too highbrow for the pseudomusicians in this newsgroup? I really believe opera didn't catch on here because of language. Aside from excellent voices, opera tells a story on the stage. If you don't understand the words, you don't hear the story. Of course you can read along with a translation, or learn the language. Musicals in English did well here, and wasn't HMS Pinafore an opera? West Side Story, Seven Brides..... were moneymakers. Even that said, who here hasn't enjoyed the Three Tenors even when not understanding the words? --Vic Gilbert and Sullivan were the most successful creators of "musicals" in their day, and their operetta, Pinafore, is one of the best. It's "opera light" and lots of fun. Your point on language is well-taken. Many operas written in foreign languages are produced in English from time to time, but English is just not as musically colorful in the opera genre as Italian. Italian just plain sings well. French is a step down from Italian, but still more musical for the genre than English. I'm not sure how important "the story" is for most opera, because most opera stories are way, way over the top and, in fact, kind of silly. I love opera for the singing and then for the music. Even if you don't understand the language, you can understand the emotions being sung. George and Ira Gershwin's Porgy and Bess is probably the "best" American Opera. West Side Story certainly is opera-esque, but it really is a Broadway musical. Bernstein's music and Sondheim's lyrics are terrific. -- Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:27:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: STOP. I have this bizzare image of you on stage with one of those pointy Viking hats with the horns on the side, hands clasped before you, belting out a "tune". Eisboch Wish it were so. These days, I can't carry a tune with a bucket. Back in junior high, though, before my voice changed from boy soprano to gravel, I could sing. A little. At that first opera, we had seats on the side of the house, probably the second balcony, and one of the female leads had absolutely spectacular cleavage. That hooked me. The same weekend, we got to see "West Side Story" on Broadway. I think the kids in the choir were charged about $20 for the whole trip, including trainfare. The school picked up the rest. That was in the days schools had a little money. Opera has fascinated me for a long, long time. Virtually every aspect of it is way, way, way over the top. BTW, if you want a real treat, listen to Anna Netrebko's "Violetta" CD. Violetta Valery, the woman who "strayed." Some of the most beautiful vocal music ever. No thanks. Opera does absolutely nothing for me. However, I *can* understand your early introduction to it. My intro was the Boston Symphony Orchestra, probably at about the same age. The power of the orchestra blew me away and stuck in my head. Even today, once in a while, Mrs.E. and I get tickets and journey into Boston just to hear a beautifully played piece of music. But .... NOT opera! Classical music I can buy into - I was introduced to classical music by one of my mother's step-brothers who was a classical musician with the Chicago Symphony. Opera - sorry, I can't buy into that for a variety of reasons. I agree. When I was in elementary school/Jr. High, those of us that seemed to have an interest in music were herded onto the school bus occasionally for a trip to Boston to hear classical music performed by the Boston Symphony Orchestra ... or an evening event with the Boston Pops. Nobody ..... and I mean nobody .... was dragged into Boston to listen to an opera. Even the music teachers weren't that cruel. Eisboch I think in Harry's school system, they spelled pompous with a capital P. While we did many trips to the symphony, in my elementary school days, I only had to go to the MET once a year to see The Nutcracker. I have never enjoyed opera, but then again, I am uncouth. |
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Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald P. Smithers III The Great, Esq.
LLC wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 8, 4:45 pm, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote: JimH wrote: On Aug 8, 4:14 pm, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote: Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Sure. There are kazillions of tunes in opera. Even if you don't listen to or like opera, you've heard them. At the moment, my "ringtone" is a tune from La Traviata, sung by Anna Netrebko. Don't know Anna? One of her albums outsold one from Beyoncé when it came out in 2004 in Europe. Terrific voice, good-looking, too. Well, both of them, Anna and Beyoncé! Here's a list of some popular opera tunes for you: Lakmé: Flower Duet (Dome épais) Die Walküre (The Valkyrie): Ride of the Valkyries La Forza del destino (The Force of Destiny) : Overture Andre Chénier: La mamma morte Il Barbiere di Siviglia (The Barber of Seville): Overture Il Barbiere di Siviglia: Largo al factotum Lohengrin: Wedding March La Wally: Ebben? ne andro lontana Cosi fan tutte: Soave sia il vento Legend of Tsar Saltan: Flight of the Bumble Bee La Traviata: Libiamo ne lieti calici (Brindisi) By providing a list of popular opera tunes? Too highbrow for the pseudomusicians in this newsgroup? Sure, Tom...whatever you say. I've been an opera fan since the 7th Grade, when our choir club teacher took us to a performance of La Boheme at the Met. We've been to at least a half dozen major league opera performances in the last year. STOP. I have this bizzare image of you on stage with one of those pointy Viking hats with the horns on the side, hands clasped before you, belting out a "tune". Eisboch I know I must have grown up on the wrong side of town. We didn't have a "choir club" in the 7th grade. Did you play the banjo back then? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydGhd1Da6fo I think so. ;-) Nope, but while that is some really nice plucking, I can play the song as well as the kid did in the movie. The boy was playing the banjo using a "claw-hammer" style, and in reality the song dueling banjos is played on a different style banjo using finger picks. In other words, that boy is really not playing the guitar. Now you know the rest of the story. ;) Did you know that elementary and middle school choirs are/were not uncommon in most school districts? I sang in school choir from 4th through 8th grade. I am sure you did. That speaks volumes. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:02:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I've also witnessed highly educated, egotistical blowhards that, when laid off, can't grasp the concept of how they possibly could not be needed. Most of the time the company was better off without them. I have witnessed in this NG educated, egotistical blowhards, that can't grasp the concept of how they possibly could not be needed. |
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:08:43 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
Ballet? Ballet??????? Sorry. You just tip toed over the line. No thanks. Eisboch While I'd rather have a root canal than go to an Opera, I have allowed myself to be dragged to a ballet. A hint, don't look at it as dance, look at it as sport. A quality ballet company is filled with tremendous athletes. From that stand point, I can tolerate a ballet every 5-10 years. |
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LLC" wrote in : grin, he is cute when he wants to be. Can you imagine being at the marina dock when his cell phone rings? On A-dock where all those deep sea fishermen are drinking on the back decks of the big fishing boats....(c; |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:27:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message om... Eisboch wrote: STOP. I have this bizzare image of you on stage with one of those pointy Viking hats with the horns on the side, hands clasped before you, belting out a "tune". Eisboch Wish it were so. These days, I can't carry a tune with a bucket. Back in junior high, though, before my voice changed from boy soprano to gravel, I could sing. A little. At that first opera, we had seats on the side of the house, probably the second balcony, and one of the female leads had absolutely spectacular cleavage. That hooked me. The same weekend, we got to see "West Side Story" on Broadway. I think the kids in the choir were charged about $20 for the whole trip, including trainfare. The school picked up the rest. That was in the days schools had a little money. Opera has fascinated me for a long, long time. Virtually every aspect of it is way, way, way over the top. BTW, if you want a real treat, listen to Anna Netrebko's "Violetta" CD. Violetta Valery, the woman who "strayed." Some of the most beautiful vocal music ever. No thanks. Opera does absolutely nothing for me. However, I *can* understand your early introduction to it. My intro was the Boston Symphony Orchestra, probably at about the same age. The power of the orchestra blew me away and stuck in my head. Even today, once in a while, Mrs.E. and I get tickets and journey into Boston just to hear a beautifully played piece of music. But .... NOT opera! Classical music I can buy into - I was introduced to classical music by one of my mother's step-brothers who was a classical musician with the Chicago Symphony. Opera - sorry, I can't buy into that for a variety of reasons. I agree. When I was in elementary school/Jr. High, those of us that seemed to have an interest in music were herded onto the school bus occasionally for a trip to Boston to hear classical music performed by the Boston Symphony Orchestra ... or an evening event with the Boston Pops. Nobody ..... and I mean nobody .... was dragged into Boston to listen to an opera. Even the music teachers weren't that cruel. Eisboch Being the father of a musical daughter, I have listened to all the genres of music. Some opera is good, if you do not have to watch it. As to Ballet, is amazing the athleticsm of the dancers. Daughter was also into ballet, or I had to watch a lot. Still not my favorite entertainment. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... Being the father of a musical daughter, I have listened to all the genres of music. Some opera is good, if you do not have to watch it. As to Ballet, is amazing the athleticsm of the dancers. Daughter was also into ballet, or I had to watch a lot. Still not my favorite entertainment. As for musicals like "West Side Story", some of them are good, but IMO they aren't Operas. They are Musicals. We often went to the local Music Circus to see performances such as "Man of La Mancha", "Paint Your Wagon", and "Bye Bye Birdie". I don't consider them Opera. Thinking about it though, I have often listened to opera singers .... female and male .... performing individually. Some of that is very good. I guess what doesn't excite me is sitting through 2 hours of story telling through song. Eisboch |
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:58:12 -0400, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald
P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote: hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: STOP. I have this bizzare image of you on stage with one of those pointy Viking hats with the horns on the side, hands clasped before you, belting out a "tune". Eisboch Wish it were so. These days, I can't carry a tune with a bucket. Back in junior high, though, before my voice changed from boy soprano to gravel, I could sing. A little. At that first opera, we had seats on the side of the house, probably the second balcony, and one of the female leads had absolutely spectacular cleavage. That hooked me. The same weekend, we got to see "West Side Story" on Broadway. I think the kids in the choir were charged about $20 for the whole trip, including trainfare. The school picked up the rest. That was in the days schools had a little money. Opera has fascinated me for a long, long time. Virtually every aspect of it is way, way, way over the top. BTW, if you want a real treat, listen to Anna Netrebko's "Violetta" CD. Violetta Valery, the woman who "strayed." Some of the most beautiful vocal music ever. No thanks. Opera does absolutely nothing for me. However, I *can* understand your early introduction to it. My intro was the Boston Symphony Orchestra, probably at about the same age. The power of the orchestra blew me away and stuck in my head. Even today, once in a while, Mrs.E. and I get tickets and journey into Boston just to hear a beautifully played piece of music. But .... NOT opera! Eisboch A lot of people don't like opera until they go to the right opera. Seriously. I like some of Wagner's music, but I cannot stand sitting through his operas. If you went to see the Magic Flute or La Boheme or any of several others, I bet you'd enjoy it. I didn't like ballet until I was about 30. Then I went to one here in DC and got hooked. Try these two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSX3HyWBqW0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4sONjSaHWA The latter has Netrebko when she was a young girl...the last few bars of her as a coloratura soprano are just incredible for such a young singer. She does an even better job of it now...her range and phrasing are just remarkable. Nah, now this is OPERA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjWD...eature=related True art. The last few bars of the helicopters strafing the coloratura soprano are just incredible for those young Hueys. Today's helicopters would do an even better job. Their range and phrasing are totally remarkable. |
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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:58:12 -0400, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote: hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: STOP. I have this bizzare image of you on stage with one of those pointy Viking hats with the horns on the side, hands clasped before you, belting out a "tune". Eisboch Wish it were so. These days, I can't carry a tune with a bucket. Back in junior high, though, before my voice changed from boy soprano to gravel, I could sing. A little. At that first opera, we had seats on the side of the house, probably the second balcony, and one of the female leads had absolutely spectacular cleavage. That hooked me. The same weekend, we got to see "West Side Story" on Broadway. I think the kids in the choir were charged about $20 for the whole trip, including trainfare. The school picked up the rest. That was in the days schools had a little money. Opera has fascinated me for a long, long time. Virtually every aspect of it is way, way, way over the top. BTW, if you want a real treat, listen to Anna Netrebko's "Violetta" CD. Violetta Valery, the woman who "strayed." Some of the most beautiful vocal music ever. No thanks. Opera does absolutely nothing for me. However, I *can* understand your early introduction to it. My intro was the Boston Symphony Orchestra, probably at about the same age. The power of the orchestra blew me away and stuck in my head. Even today, once in a while, Mrs.E. and I get tickets and journey into Boston just to hear a beautifully played piece of music. But .... NOT opera! Eisboch A lot of people don't like opera until they go to the right opera. Seriously. I like some of Wagner's music, but I cannot stand sitting through his operas. If you went to see the Magic Flute or La Boheme or any of several others, I bet you'd enjoy it. I didn't like ballet until I was about 30. Then I went to one here in DC and got hooked. Try these two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSX3HyWBqW0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4sONjSaHWA The latter has Netrebko when she was a young girl...the last few bars of her as a coloratura soprano are just incredible for such a young singer. She does an even better job of it now...her range and phrasing are just remarkable. Nah, now this is OPERA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjWD...eature=related True art. The last few bars of the helicopters strafing the coloratura soprano are just incredible for those young Hueys. Today's helicopters would do an even better job. Their range and phrasing are totally remarkable. They still have some Huey's in the Atlanta area, I love the sound. You can hear them for a long time before they come into view. |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:52:05 -0400, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald
P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:58:12 -0400, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote: hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: STOP. I have this bizzare image of you on stage with one of those pointy Viking hats with the horns on the side, hands clasped before you, belting out a "tune". Eisboch Wish it were so. These days, I can't carry a tune with a bucket. Back in junior high, though, before my voice changed from boy soprano to gravel, I could sing. A little. At that first opera, we had seats on the side of the house, probably the second balcony, and one of the female leads had absolutely spectacular cleavage. That hooked me. The same weekend, we got to see "West Side Story" on Broadway. I think the kids in the choir were charged about $20 for the whole trip, including trainfare. The school picked up the rest. That was in the days schools had a little money. Opera has fascinated me for a long, long time. Virtually every aspect of it is way, way, way over the top. BTW, if you want a real treat, listen to Anna Netrebko's "Violetta" CD. Violetta Valery, the woman who "strayed." Some of the most beautiful vocal music ever. No thanks. Opera does absolutely nothing for me. However, I *can* understand your early introduction to it. My intro was the Boston Symphony Orchestra, probably at about the same age. The power of the orchestra blew me away and stuck in my head. Even today, once in a while, Mrs.E. and I get tickets and journey into Boston just to hear a beautifully played piece of music. But .... NOT opera! Eisboch A lot of people don't like opera until they go to the right opera. Seriously. I like some of Wagner's music, but I cannot stand sitting through his operas. If you went to see the Magic Flute or La Boheme or any of several others, I bet you'd enjoy it. I didn't like ballet until I was about 30. Then I went to one here in DC and got hooked. Try these two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSX3HyWBqW0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4sONjSaHWA The latter has Netrebko when she was a young girl...the last few bars of her as a coloratura soprano are just incredible for such a young singer. She does an even better job of it now...her range and phrasing are just remarkable. Nah, now this is OPERA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjWD...eature=related True art. The last few bars of the helicopters strafing the coloratura soprano are just incredible for those young Hueys. Today's helicopters would do an even better job. Their range and phrasing are totally remarkable. They still have some Huey's in the Atlanta area, I love the sound. You can hear them for a long time before they come into view. For about six months I was a lucky boy. I got to ride in Hueys at least twice a day and got paid extra for doing so. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... Being the father of a musical daughter, I have listened to all the genres of music. Some opera is good, if you do not have to watch it. As to Ballet, is amazing the athleticsm of the dancers. Daughter was also into ballet, or I had to watch a lot. Still not my favorite entertainment. As for musicals like "West Side Story", some of them are good, but IMO they aren't Operas. They are Musicals. We often went to the local Music Circus to see performances such as "Man of La Mancha", "Paint Your Wagon", and "Bye Bye Birdie". I don't consider them Opera. Thinking about it though, I have often listened to opera singers .... female and male .... performing individually. Some of that is very good. I guess what doesn't excite me is sitting through 2 hours of story telling through song. Eisboch Bad stories also. Was the soap operas of the time. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... Being the father of a musical daughter, I have listened to all the genres of music. Some opera is good, if you do not have to watch it. As to Ballet, is amazing the athleticsm of the dancers. Daughter was also into ballet, or I had to watch a lot. Still not my favorite entertainment. As for musicals like "West Side Story", some of them are good, but IMO they aren't Operas. They are Musicals. We often went to the local Music Circus to see performances such as "Man of La Mancha", "Paint Your Wagon", and "Bye Bye Birdie". I don't consider them Opera. Thinking about it though, I have often listened to opera singers .... female and male .... performing individually. Some of that is very good. I guess what doesn't excite me is sitting through 2 hours of story telling through song. Eisboch Bad stories also. Was the soap operas of the time. It's not that opera stories were "bad," generally, though some certainly were. It's just that the story really isn't that significant a part of the work in most of them. In most opera, the libretto is just a theme, a beginning. It's the music, the singing, the show that is important. Even in Mozart's time, the libretto for Don Giovanni was...bizarre. But the work is one of the greatest ever written. Consider the libretto for one of the greatest American musicals, Oklahoma! Corny as Kansas, set in Oklahoma. Silliness. But...the music, the singing, the dancing, the visuals are incomparable. -- Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance. |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:52:05 -0400, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade,
Reginald P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote: They still have some Huey's in the Atlanta area, I love the sound. You can hear them for a long time before they come into view. I used to live half a mile from the Des Moines Iowa airport. The Hueys would fly over my house at three hundred feet. Casady |
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:23:54 -0400, hk wrote:
I'm not sure how important "the story" is for most opera, because most opera stories are way, way over the top and, in fact, kind of silly. I love opera for the singing and then for the music. Even if you don't understand the language, you can understand the emotions being sung. Right. But it sure helps to understand the words. Saw Andrea Bocelli on PBS once and seeing the words scroll as he sang a song in tribute to his recently dead father added much poignance for me. Words do matter. My favorite voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OP22rETN-s Imagine not knowing what the words meant. Though the melody and voice are uplifting, the words are expressing utmost sadness. True art. Of course Roy is absolutely unique. --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:23:54 -0400, hk wrote: I'm not sure how important "the story" is for most opera, because most opera stories are way, way over the top and, in fact, kind of silly. I love opera for the singing and then for the music. Even if you don't understand the language, you can understand the emotions being sung. Right. But it sure helps to understand the words. Saw Andrea Bocelli on PBS once and seeing the words scroll as he sang a song in tribute to his recently dead father added much poignance for me. Words do matter. My favorite voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OP22rETN-s Imagine not knowing what the words meant. Though the melody and voice are uplifting, the words are expressing utmost sadness. True art. Of course Roy is absolutely unique. --Vic "Roy" was more than unique. Have you got the Traveling Wilburys CD? Fabulous, and you sure can tell when it's Roy singing, though there are no slouches on the CD. I like George Harrison's work on it, too. One of my all-time favorite CDs. -- Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance. |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:23:54 -0400, hk wrote: I'm not sure how important "the story" is for most opera, because most opera stories are way, way over the top and, in fact, kind of silly. I love opera for the singing and then for the music. Even if you don't understand the language, you can understand the emotions being sung. Right. But it sure helps to understand the words. Saw Andrea Bocelli on PBS once and seeing the words scroll as he sang a song in tribute to his recently dead father added much poignance for me. Words do matter. My favorite voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OP22rETN-s Imagine not knowing what the words meant. Though the melody and voice are uplifting, the words are expressing utmost sadness. True art. Of course Roy is absolutely unique. --Vic Roy was opera trained. Has been said that he would of been of the great singers of opera. |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:42:57 -0400, hk wrote:
"Roy" was more than unique. Have you got the Traveling Wilburys CD? Fabulous, and you sure can tell when it's Roy singing, though there are no slouches on the CD. I like George Harrison's work on it, too. One of my all-time favorite CDs. No, but I've heard cuts. Got the DVD of the gig with Bruce, Elvis, Bonnie, etc. Tell the truth, I don't listen to CD's except when were on the highway, and at Christmas time. Wasted a lot of money buying CD's we listened to once, and some were never opened. My wife's idea of course. She enjoys music more than me. The Orbison DVD and a BeeGees DVD "bought" from PBS have gotten a lot of play. I'm not exactly a musical person. Just enjoy listening now and then. --Vic |
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On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:07:18 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: Roy was opera trained. Has been said that he would of been of the great singers of opera. Heard once that his octave range is tremendous. Whatever that means. --Vic |
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On Aug 9, 5:32*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:07:18 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: Roy was opera trained. *Has been said that he would of been of the great singers of opera. Heard once that his octave range is tremendous. Whatever that means. * --Vic Yeah, distinctive voice for sure. As easy to pick out as Dylan, Petty, or Ronni Spectre.... to bad about Ronnie, have you ever heard that story, weird;) Kept captive by Phil, or so she says.. |
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On Aug 9, 5:43*pm, wrote:
On Aug 9, 5:32*pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:07:18 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: Roy was opera trained. *Has been said that he would of been of the great singers of opera. Heard once that his octave range is tremendous. Whatever that means. * --Vic Yeah, distinctive voice for sure. As easy to pick out as Dylan, Petty, or Ronni Spectre.... * to bad about Ronnie, have you ever heard that story, weird;) Kept captive by Phil, or so she says.. While we are talking bands again, I have seem some pretty obscure musicians. I was at a snowed out concert one time and about 20 folks showed up. Cub Coda sent the band to the bus, grabbed an acoustic guitar. We all sat in a big circle on the dance floor at the club and he played for us all night.. I also saw the Temptations once and the "coolest" was probably Buddy Rich with a 16 piece orchestra.. What a sick dude.. funny a frekin' hell... The club I worked at was run by a couple of retired Las Vegas club owners, we got some neat acts there for sure.. and it was a small place.. Working in the music biz for a while I also partied back stage with some wild dudes too.. but some of that is still classified.. ;) |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:21:53 GMT, John H.
wrote: For about six months I was a lucky boy. I got to ride in Hueys at least twice a day and got paid extra for doing so. Paid extra? Freakin' Army....paid extra for riding in Hueys... ~~ sheesh ~~ |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:58:58 GMT, John H.
wrote: True art. The last few bars of the helicopters strafing the coloratura soprano are just incredible for those young Hueys. Today's helicopters would do an even better job. Their range and phrasing are totally remarkable. You know, I've never seen the movie. Or "Full Metal Jacket", "Platoon", "Deer Hunter" - any of them. My philosophy is I lived through that crap - why would I want to watch it? :) |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:58:58 GMT, John H. wrote: True art. The last few bars of the helicopters strafing the coloratura soprano are just incredible for those young Hueys. Today's helicopters would do an even better job. Their range and phrasing are totally remarkable. You know, I've never seen the movie. Or "Full Metal Jacket", "Platoon", "Deer Hunter" - any of them. My philosophy is I lived through that crap - why would I want to watch it? :) I think you are not unique. I didn't live through it, so it has always amazed me how man can adapt to horrendous situations. I am also amazed at how hero's are really just ordinary men who did what was necessary to protect themselves and those around them. |
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"hk" wrote in message . .. Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:23:54 -0400, hk wrote: I'm not sure how important "the story" is for most opera, because most opera stories are way, way over the top and, in fact, kind of silly. I love opera for the singing and then for the music. Even if you don't understand the language, you can understand the emotions being sung. Right. But it sure helps to understand the words. Saw Andrea Bocelli on PBS once and seeing the words scroll as he sang a song in tribute to his recently dead father added much poignance for me. Words do matter. My favorite voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OP22rETN-s Imagine not knowing what the words meant. Though the melody and voice are uplifting, the words are expressing utmost sadness. True art. Of course Roy is absolutely unique. --Vic "Roy" was more than unique. Have you got the Traveling Wilburys CD? Fabulous, and you sure can tell when it's Roy singing, though there are no slouches on the CD. I like George Harrison's work on it, too. One of my all-time favorite CDs. I have both their albums... Vol 1 & Vol 3. Vol 1 is my favourite. http://www.travelingwilburys.com/home.html |
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Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:23:54 -0400, hk wrote: I'm not sure how important "the story" is for most opera, because most opera stories are way, way over the top and, in fact, kind of silly. I love opera for the singing and then for the music. Even if you don't understand the language, you can understand the emotions being sung. Right. But it sure helps to understand the words. Saw Andrea Bocelli on PBS once and seeing the words scroll as he sang a song in tribute to his recently dead father added much poignance for me. Words do matter. My favorite voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OP22rETN-s Imagine not knowing what the words meant. Though the melody and voice are uplifting, the words are expressing utmost sadness. True art. Of course Roy is absolutely unique. --Vic "Roy" was more than unique. Have you got the Traveling Wilburys CD? Fabulous, and you sure can tell when it's Roy singing, though there are no slouches on the CD. I like George Harrison's work on it, too. One of my all-time favorite CDs. I have both their albums... Vol 1 & Vol 3. Vol 1 is my favourite. http://www.travelingwilburys.com/home.html #1 is the gem. I love "last night" and "end of the line." -- "The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right." |
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Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:23:54 -0400, hk wrote: I'm not sure how important "the story" is for most opera, because most opera stories are way, way over the top and, in fact, kind of silly. I love opera for the singing and then for the music. Even if you don't understand the language, you can understand the emotions being sung. Right. But it sure helps to understand the words. Saw Andrea Bocelli on PBS once and seeing the words scroll as he sang a song in tribute to his recently dead father added much poignance for me. Words do matter. My favorite voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OP22rETN-s Imagine not knowing what the words meant. Though the melody and voice are uplifting, the words are expressing utmost sadness. True art. Of course Roy is absolutely unique. --Vic "Roy" was more than unique. Have you got the Traveling Wilburys CD? Fabulous, and you sure can tell when it's Roy singing, though there are no slouches on the CD. I like George Harrison's work on it, too. One of my all-time favorite CDs. I have both their albums... Vol 1 & Vol 3. Vol 1 is my favourite. http://www.travelingwilburys.com/home.html Don, This is exactly the kind of posts that Harry doesn't like, off topic drivel. |
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hk wrote:
Don White wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:23:54 -0400, hk wrote: I'm not sure how important "the story" is for most opera, because most opera stories are way, way over the top and, in fact, kind of silly. I love opera for the singing and then for the music. Even if you don't understand the language, you can understand the emotions being sung. Right. But it sure helps to understand the words. Saw Andrea Bocelli on PBS once and seeing the words scroll as he sang a song in tribute to his recently dead father added much poignance for me. Words do matter. My favorite voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OP22rETN-s Imagine not knowing what the words meant. Though the melody and voice are uplifting, the words are expressing utmost sadness. True art. Of course Roy is absolutely unique. --Vic "Roy" was more than unique. Have you got the Traveling Wilburys CD? Fabulous, and you sure can tell when it's Roy singing, though there are no slouches on the CD. I like George Harrison's work on it, too. One of my all-time favorite CDs. I have both their albums... Vol 1 & Vol 3. Vol 1 is my favourite. http://www.travelingwilburys.com/home.html #1 is the gem. I love "last night" and "end of the line." Oh, I am sorry, since Harry liked the group, this OT drivel is allowed. |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:57:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:21:53 GMT, John H. wrote: For about six months I was a lucky boy. I got to ride in Hueys at least twice a day and got paid extra for doing so. Paid extra? Freakin' Army....paid extra for riding in Hueys... ~~ sheesh ~~ Yup, flight pay, $110 per month. Paid for beer. |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:06:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:58:58 GMT, John H. wrote: True art. The last few bars of the helicopters strafing the coloratura soprano are just incredible for those young Hueys. Today's helicopters would do an even better job. Their range and phrasing are totally remarkable. You know, I've never seen the movie. Or "Full Metal Jacket", "Platoon", "Deer Hunter" - any of them. My philosophy is I lived through that crap - why would I want to watch it? :) "Platoon" was good and fairly realistic. The rest were crap. |
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"hk" wrote in message . .. It's not that opera stories were "bad," generally, though some certainly were. It's just that the story really isn't that significant a part of the work in most of them. In most opera, the libretto is just a theme, a beginning. It's the music, the singing, the show that is important. Even in Mozart's time, the libretto for Don Giovanni was...bizarre. But the work is one of the greatest ever written. Consider the libretto for one of the greatest American musicals, Oklahoma! Corny as Kansas, set in Oklahoma. Silliness. But...the music, the singing, the dancing, the visuals are incomparable. "Oklahoma" isn't an opera. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "hk" wrote in message . .. It's not that opera stories were "bad," generally, though some certainly were. It's just that the story really isn't that significant a part of the work in most of them. In most opera, the libretto is just a theme, a beginning. It's the music, the singing, the show that is important. Even in Mozart's time, the libretto for Don Giovanni was...bizarre. But the work is one of the greatest ever written. Consider the libretto for one of the greatest American musicals, Oklahoma! Corny as Kansas, set in Oklahoma. Silliness. But...the music, the singing, the dancing, the visuals are incomparable. "Oklahoma" isn't an opera. Eisboch Opera, Ohpra, ballet, Bailey's; Its all the same to Harry. What's important is he's refined and cultured and knows good taste and what tastes good. He is also a greenie. He knows exactly what size boat you should own and how much of a carbon footprint you should leave. Yours is way to big by the way. If it weren't for Harry we wouldn't know how to vote. He makes it easy though. Don't look at names, just vote the big donkey. And does he know trucks. They are all special purpose. For instance; For crushing legs you want a Ford150 and for towing Parker boats down the interstate at 45MPH, Toyota rules. You can probably tell I haven't had my morning coffee yet. Cheers, Florida Jim |
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On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:38:54 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... It's not that opera stories were "bad," generally, though some certainly were. It's just that the story really isn't that significant a part of the work in most of them. In most opera, the libretto is just a theme, a beginning. It's the music, the singing, the show that is important. Even in Mozart's time, the libretto for Don Giovanni was...bizarre. But the work is one of the greatest ever written. Consider the libretto for one of the greatest American musicals, Oklahoma! Corny as Kansas, set in Oklahoma. Silliness. But...the music, the singing, the dancing, the visuals are incomparable. "Oklahoma" isn't an opera. You do realise you missed a great opportunity there don't you? Opera tunes - show tunes? Twinkle toes? Navy? Ok, that was uncalled for - I'm sorry. Really. Honest. It's all this Dunkin' Donuts Turbo Iced Coffee I've been drinking at 0530 - spins me right up and supercharges the brain. And for somebody who doesn't drink a lot of coffee.... Well, I"m sure you get the idea. |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:37:59 -0400, "Jim" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message m... "hk" wrote in message . .. It's not that opera stories were "bad," generally, though some certainly were. It's just that the story really isn't that significant a part of the work in most of them. In most opera, the libretto is just a theme, a beginning. It's the music, the singing, the show that is important. Even in Mozart's time, the libretto for Don Giovanni was...bizarre. But the work is one of the greatest ever written. Consider the libretto for one of the greatest American musicals, Oklahoma! Corny as Kansas, set in Oklahoma. Silliness. But...the music, the singing, the dancing, the visuals are incomparable. "Oklahoma" isn't an opera. Opera, Ohpra, ballet, Bailey's; Its all the same to Harry. What's important is he's refined and cultured and knows good taste and what tastes good. He is also a greenie. He knows exactly what size boat you should own and how much of a carbon footprint you should leave. Yours is way to big by the way. If it weren't for Harry we wouldn't know how to vote. He makes it easy though. Don't look at names, just vote the big donkey. And does he know trucks. They are all special purpose. For instance; For crushing legs you want a Ford150 and for towing Parker boats down the interstate at 45MPH, Toyota rules. Trust me on this - you don't know the half of it. It's been an interesting couple of days. You can probably tell I haven't had my morning coffee yet. Try a Dunkin' Donuts Turbo Iced Coffee with double shot of expresso. WHOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Why is the room spinning around? |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:37:59 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message om... "hk" wrote in message . .. It's not that opera stories were "bad," generally, though some certainly were. It's just that the story really isn't that significant a part of the work in most of them. In most opera, the libretto is just a theme, a beginning. It's the music, the singing, the show that is important. Even in Mozart's time, the libretto for Don Giovanni was...bizarre. But the work is one of the greatest ever written. Consider the libretto for one of the greatest American musicals, Oklahoma! Corny as Kansas, set in Oklahoma. Silliness. But...the music, the singing, the dancing, the visuals are incomparable. "Oklahoma" isn't an opera. Opera, Ohpra, ballet, Bailey's; Its all the same to Harry. What's important is he's refined and cultured and knows good taste and what tastes good. He is also a greenie. He knows exactly what size boat you should own and how much of a carbon footprint you should leave. Yours is way to big by the way. If it weren't for Harry we wouldn't know how to vote. He makes it easy though. Don't look at names, just vote the big donkey. And does he know trucks. They are all special purpose. For instance; For crushing legs you want a Ford150 and for towing Parker boats down the interstate at 45MPH, Toyota rules. Trust me on this - you don't know the half of it. It's been an interesting couple of days. You can probably tell I haven't had my morning coffee yet. Try a Dunkin' Donuts Turbo Iced Coffee with double shot of expresso. WHOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Why is the room spinning around? Jeff Dunham should read some of Harry's crap. It would provide some good material for his Walter character. Of course he'd have to clean up the language. |
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Jim wrote:
Try a Dunkin' Donuts Turbo Iced Coffee with double shot of expresso. WHOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Why is the room spinning around? Jeff Dunham should read some of Harry's crap. It would provide some good material for his Walter character. Of course he'd have to clean up the language. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I226Sfgs0s |
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