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[email protected] August 8th 08 02:38 PM

Deep into trivial thought....
 
On Aug 8, 7:05*am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message


...


Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from low-
medium-high, while a typical *box window fan operates from High-medium-
low?


I was just thinking about that.


hmm....


Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00 either...


We will all try to put your mind at ease:


With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC. * *Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?


Eisboch


But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in, and it
starts up jjust fine, though...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The Air filters we run here states in the instructions that it should
be started in high and once running, can be turned down to med, or
low...

Wheeler Jim August 8th 08 02:43 PM

Deep into trivial thought....
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 7:05 am, Tim wrote:
On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message


...


Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from low-
medium-high, while a typical box window fan operates from High-medium-
low?


I was just thinking about that.


hmm....


Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00 either...


We will all try to put your mind at ease:


With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC. Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?


Eisboch


But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in, and it
starts up jjust fine, though...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The Air filters we run here states in the instructions that it should
be started in high and once running, can be turned down to med, or
low...

Eisboch already mentioned that.


Don White August 8th 08 02:54 PM

Deep into trivial thought....
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from low-
medium-high, while a typical box window fan operates from High-medium-
low?

I was just thinking about that.

hmm....

Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00 either...


And...'pull chain' operated fans start at off - high speed-- med -low-- off
rotary button fans go from off - low - med - high and you reverse direction
to switch off.

Let's see... if 2 bits = $ .25 ........................



[email protected] August 8th 08 03:07 PM

Deep into trivial thought....
 
On Aug 8, 9:54*am, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from low-
medium-high, while a typical *box window fan operates from High-medium-
low?


I was just thinking about that.


hmm....


Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00 either...


And...'pull chain' operated fans start at off - high speed-- med -low-- off
rotary button fans go from off - low - med - high and you reverse direction
to switch off.

Let's see... if 2 bits = $ .25 ........................


Then the natural progression would be 2 bits, 4 bits, 8 bits, 2
dollars...

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 8th 08 04:35 PM

Deep into trivial thought....
 
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:32:45 -0400, "Wheeler Jim"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:25:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from
low-
medium-high, while a typical box window fan operates from
High-medium-
low?

I was just thinking about that.

hmm....

Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00
either...

We will all try to put your mind at ease:

With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC.
Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?

But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in, and it
starts up jjust fine, though...

True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. Ideally, it should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of the
motor.
Then, it can be turned down. Not a big deal though ... most fans can
handle it. I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something like
3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.

Newton's Laws of Motion: force is redundant and subordinate to the
conservation of momentum.

Ipso facto, quid pro quo, illegitimi non carborundum. Carpe Diem. :)

Burma Shave....


ROTFL!!!!

Damn - why am I feeling particularly briliant this morning?

Must be the coffee.... :)


Could it be that you were recently anointed temporary Lord of the Realm?


Well, first of all, I am not Lord of The Realm - I am a mere Knight of
The Realm.

Secondly, Rule #1 on the Evil Overlord Instruction and Maintenance
Manual clearly states "Always make the victim of your world domination
scheme think that it was his or her idea."

Lastly, when you need a job done, send the Marines. :)

HK August 8th 08 04:39 PM

Deep into trivial thought....
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:32:45 -0400, "Wheeler Jim"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:25:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from
low-
medium-high, while a typical box window fan operates from
High-medium-
low?
I was just thinking about that.
hmm....
Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00
either...
We will all try to put your mind at ease:

With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC.
Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?
But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in, and it
starts up jjust fine, though...
True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. Ideally, it should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of the
motor.
Then, it can be turned down. Not a big deal though ... most fans can
handle it. I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something like
3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.
Newton's Laws of Motion: force is redundant and subordinate to the
conservation of momentum.

Ipso facto, quid pro quo, illegitimi non carborundum. Carpe Diem. :)
Burma Shave....
ROTFL!!!!

Damn - why am I feeling particularly briliant this morning?

Must be the coffee.... :)

Could it be that you were recently anointed temporary Lord of the Realm?


Well, first of all, I am not Lord of The Realm - I am a mere Knight of
The Realm.

Secondly, Rule #1 on the Evil Overlord Instruction and Maintenance
Manual clearly states "Always make the victim of your world domination
scheme think that it was his or her idea."


-- - - - -


Four of the last 10 posts over there are snark attacks or nonsense from
Reggie.
..


Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

Richard Casady August 8th 08 04:48 PM

Deep into trivial thought....
 
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something like 3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.


Not exactly. It is true that if you are sliding something, it will
take more force, not power, to get it started than to maintain it in
motion at minimum speed. As for power, that is rate of doing work.
Work is force applied times distance moved.

Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC August 8th 08 05:08 PM

Deep into trivial thought....
 
hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:32:45 -0400, "Wheeler Jim"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:25:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...

On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...


Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates
from low-
medium-high, while a typical box window fan operates from
High-medium-
low?
I was just thinking about that.
hmm....
Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00
either...
We will all try to put your mind at ease:

With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC.
Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?
But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in,
and it
starts up jjust fine, though...
True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. Ideally, it
should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of
the motor.
Then, it can be turned down. Not a big deal though ... most
fans can
handle it. I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes
something like 3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.
Newton's Laws of Motion: force is redundant and subordinate to the
conservation of momentum.

Ipso facto, quid pro quo, illegitimi non carborundum. Carpe Diem.
:)
Burma Shave....
ROTFL!!!!

Damn - why am I feeling particularly briliant this morning?

Must be the coffee.... :)
Could it be that you were recently anointed temporary Lord of the Realm?


Well, first of all, I am not Lord of The Realm - I am a mere Knight of
The Realm.

Secondly, Rule #1 on the Evil Overlord Instruction and Maintenance
Manual clearly states "Always make the victim of your world domination
scheme think that it was his or her idea."


-- - - - -


Four of the last 10 posts over there are snark attacks or nonsense from
Reggie.
.



As you liked to say, "that is why I posted in the OT forum"

Jim August 8th 08 05:10 PM

Deep into trivial thought....
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:32:45 -0400, "Wheeler Jim"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:25:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from
low-
medium-high, while a typical box window fan operates from
High-medium-
low?
I was just thinking about that.
hmm....
Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00
either...
We will all try to put your mind at ease:

With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC.
Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?
But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in, and
it
starts up jjust fine, though...
True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. Ideally, it
should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of the
motor.
Then, it can be turned down. Not a big deal though ... most fans
can
handle it. I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something
like 3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.
Newton's Laws of Motion: force is redundant and subordinate to the
conservation of momentum.

Ipso facto, quid pro quo, illegitimi non carborundum. Carpe Diem.
:)
Burma Shave....
ROTFL!!!!

Damn - why am I feeling particularly briliant this morning?

Must be the coffee.... :)
Could it be that you were recently anointed temporary Lord of the Realm?


Well, first of all, I am not Lord of The Realm - I am a mere Knight of
The Realm.

Secondly, Rule #1 on the Evil Overlord Instruction and Maintenance
Manual clearly states "Always make the victim of your world domination
scheme think that it was his or her idea."


-- - - - -


Four of the last 10 posts over there are snark attacks or nonsense from
Reggie.


What are the other six?


Eisboch August 8th 08 05:13 PM

Deep into trivial thought....
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something like 3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.


Not exactly. It is true that if you are sliding something, it will
take more force, not power, to get it started than to maintain it in
motion at minimum speed. As for power, that is rate of doing work.
Work is force applied times distance moved.



Ok. Ok. Lemmie try again.

At the "low" setting, the fan will temporarily draw more current to produce
the same power (watts) to get the stupid fan blade moving. Since the
windings in these cheap fans are so wimpy to begin with, this ain't so good
over the long term.

Eisboch




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