"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"-rick-" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?

Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"


Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.

Eisboch




BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

I have no idea what the political leanings are of the organization, "The
Independent Institute", so there's no bias here.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise,
spin and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of.
All I hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet .....
were is the confirmation? What have I missed?

Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"


Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains
invisible, since his primary sources are currently denying the story,
but he makes a compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl
Harbor but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the
American public that going to war was necessary.

Eisboch




BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

I have no idea what the political leanings are of the organization, "The
Independent Institute", so there's no bias here.

Eisboch


oopps .... forgot the link:

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=408


Eisboch

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?

Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"

Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.

BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.


Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.

Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)

No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".
What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.
Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)

No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.



Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into
a war with Iraq.



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of
noise, spin and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation"
you speak of. All I hear is others saying, like you, "It is
confirmed". Yet ..... were is the confirmation? What have I
missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains
invisible, since his primary sources are currently denying the
story, but he makes a compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still
circulating theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese
attack on Pearl Harbor but did nothing because he needed a reason
to convince the American public that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating
itself, here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".
What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.
Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)

No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.



Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into
a war with Iraq.

Just like Johnson lied us into a war in Vietnam.

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:26:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".
What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.
Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)

No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.

Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into
a war with Iraq.

You believe what you want to believe.

That's the point. Truthers are Truthers - little or no evidence, lots
of dots.

In mathematics, there is a concept called convergence which describes
limiting behaviour, particularly of an infinite sequence or series,
toward some limit.

Put another way, convergence claims the existence of a limit which may
be unknown.

Put another way all dots can eventually be connected in some way no
matter how remote and/or disconnected from the orignal limit if one
continually connects them in unique unlimited ways not related to the
orignal limiting design.

Which is how you get Rockefeller, Tri-Lateral Commissions, Illumaniti,
Freemasonry, Dick Cheney, WMDs in Iraq and 9/11 Trutherism.

In short, you are Larry - a dot connector.

Just a different kind of dot connector. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:26:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".
What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.
Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)
No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.
Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into
a war with Iraq.

You believe what you want to believe.

That's the point. Truthers are Truthers - little or no evidence, lots
of dots.

In mathematics, there is a concept called convergence which describes
limiting behaviour, particularly of an infinite sequence or series,
toward some limit.

Put another way, convergence claims the existence of a limit which may
be unknown.

Put another way all dots can eventually be connected in some way no
matter how remote and/or disconnected from the orignal limit if one
continually connects them in unique unlimited ways not related to the
orignal limiting design.

Which is how you get Rockefeller, Tri-Lateral Commissions, Illumaniti,
Freemasonry, Dick Cheney, WMDs in Iraq and 9/11 Trutherism.

In short, you are Larry - a dot connector.

Just a different kind of dot connector. :)


Sure, Tom. Right. Of course.



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Your just not as weird.



Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into a
war with Iraq.


Fine. Now, getting back to the NPR interview .... one thing that popped
into mind as I listened was the author's obvious personal dislike of the
Bush administration, particularly Cheney. He claims that Bush isn't
(wasn't) strong enough to stand up to Cheney and his opinion, much like
yours, that GWB lied, is the worst President ever, etc., etc., etc. These
comments were interspersed between the interviewer's questions and the
discussion of his book's claims.

So, it sorta sets the mindset and agenda of the author. I would be more
convinced if he simply stuck to the allegations contained in his book and
defended it's accuracy.

Here's what is happening:

The book gets headlines and heavy media exposure, less than 3 months from
election day.
The primary sources of the information contained in the book have denied the
Suskind's claims.
Suskind offers his personal "opinion" that they did so because they are
afraid of having to testify.
The "truth", whatever it is, will come out ...... after the election.
Meanwhile, the damage has been done. The yet unsubstantiated claims have
stuck in many people's minds.


Give me a break.

Eisboch