Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...rcial-93402191


There's a similar looking 21-footer available, too. Mod vee hulls.

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

On Aug 6, 5:56*pm, hk wrote:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...SE-Commercial-...

There's a similar looking 21-footer available, too. Mod vee hulls.

i take it that Parker sells this bare-bones model so you can outfit it
the way YOU want it with your own stuff ant your own esxpense?

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

Tim wrote:
On Aug 6, 5:56 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...SE-Commercial-...

There's a similar looking 21-footer available, too. Mod vee hulls.

i take it that Parker sells this bare-bones model so you can outfit it
the way YOU want it with your own stuff ant your own esxpense?

Yup. What you see is what you get, unless you order more from the
factory. I'd guess around here some of the smaller commerical crabpot
fishermen will like them because of the on-deck storage and the ability
to build a mount for the pot hauler wherever they want it to be.

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

On Aug 6, 7:44 pm, hk wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 6, 5:56 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...SE-Commercial-...

There's a similar looking 21-footer available, too. Mod vee hulls.

i take it that Parker sells this bare-bones model so you can outfit it
the way YOU want it with your own stuff ant your own esxpense?

Yup. What you see is what you get, unless you order more from the
factory. I'd guess around here some of the smaller commerical crabpot
fishermen will like them because of the on-deck storage and the ability
to build a mount for the pot hauler wherever they want it to be.

I know y'all have beaten this subject to death ad infinitum, and I
ignored you cuz it was mostly ad hominum attacks. But, why doesnt
Parker use a dry well on their boats? I'd think such a well known
manufacturer would do so.

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

On Aug 6, 11:34 pm, wrote:
On Aug 6, 7:44 pm, hk wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Aug 6, 5:56 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...SE-Commercial-...

There's a similar looking 21-footer available, too. Mod vee hulls.

i take it that Parker sells this bare-bones model so you can outfit it
the way YOU want it with your own stuff ant your own esxpense?

Yup. What you see is what you get, unless you order more from the
factory. I'd guess around here some of the smaller commerical crabpot
fishermen will like them because of the on-deck storage and the ability
to build a mount for the pot hauler wherever they want it to be.

I know y'all have beaten this subject to death ad infinitum, and I
ignored you cuz it was mostly ad hominum attacks. But, why doesnt
Parker use a dry well on their boats? I'd think such a well known
manufacturer would do so.

OK, I am wrong, I just looked a a lot of Parker pics and very few had
cut-away transoms. Still, some did, weird.

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:40:55 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

OK, I am wrong, I just looked a a lot of Parker pics and very few had
cut-away transoms. Still, some did, weird.

Trust me, we know.

Some say it's to let the water out...

;-))

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

wrote:
On Aug 6, 7:44 pm, hk wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 6, 5:56 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...SE-Commercial-...
There's a similar looking 21-footer available, too. Mod vee hulls.
i take it that Parker sells this bare-bones model so you can outfit it
the way YOU want it with your own stuff ant your own esxpense?
Yup. What you see is what you get, unless you order more from the
factory. I'd guess around here some of the smaller commerical crabpot
fishermen will like them because of the on-deck storage and the ability
to build a mount for the pot hauler wherever they want it to be.

I know y'all have beaten this subject to death ad infinitum, and I
ignored you cuz it was mostly ad hominum attacks. But, why doesnt
Parker use a dry well on their boats? I'd think such a well known
manufacturer would do so.


What for? To catch the gallon and a half of water such "dry wells" would
hold? What happens if a lot more water than that comes over the transom?
Where does it go? Into the boat?

Remember, those are 25" transoms you are seeing, and that's just in the
notched area. The sides of the transom are a foot higher. If you were
really nervous about it, you could order the boat with a 30" transom at
the notch, but you d have to have a 30" lower unit outboard, too.

In the more than 55 years I have been boating in salt water in all sorts
of boats, including some with 15" transoms, I have never taken water
over the transom in a large enough volume to endanger the boat. But I
have taken big waves over the bow and sometimes over the sides. What I
want in those circumstances is a way to get the water out of the boat. A
more built up transom in a small open boat won't let you do that...

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Aug 6, 7:44 pm, hk wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 6, 5:56 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...SE-Commercial-...
There's a similar looking 21-footer available, too. Mod vee hulls.
i take it that Parker sells this bare-bones model so you can outfit it
the way YOU want it with your own stuff ant your own esxpense?
Yup. What you see is what you get, unless you order more from the
factory. I'd guess around here some of the smaller commerical crabpot
fishermen will like them because of the on-deck storage and the ability
to build a mount for the pot hauler wherever they want it to be.

I know y'all have beaten this subject to death ad infinitum, and I
ignored you cuz it was mostly ad hominum attacks. But, why doesnt
Parker use a dry well on their boats? I'd think such a well known
manufacturer would do so.


What for? To catch the gallon and a half of water such "dry wells" would
hold? What happens if a lot more water than that comes over the transom?
Where does it go? Into the boat?

Remember, those are 25" transoms you are seeing, and that's just in the
notched area. The sides of the transom are a foot higher. If you were
really nervous about it, you could order the boat with a 30" transom at
the notch, but you d have to have a 30" lower unit outboard, too.

In the more than 55 years I have been boating in salt water in all sorts
of boats, including some with 15" transoms, I have never taken water over
the transom in a large enough volume to endanger the boat. But I have
taken big waves over the bow and sometimes over the sides. What I want in
those circumstances is a way to get the water out of the boat. A more
built up transom in a small open boat won't let you do that...


Lets hope you survive year 56 without being swamped. I hope your boat has
level floatation.

It's hard to do this in tiny boats like Harry's but It would be a lot safer
if the decks were sufficiently above the waterline to allow water to run out
through large scuppers or over low transoms. The key is to have enough
buoyancy to avoid being swamped. I have seen some deck boat designs that are
basically like surfboards and the sides and transom are bolted on like on
pontoon boats. If I was going to buy a little boat like Harry's, I think I
might seriously consider this type of boat.

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 6, 7:44 pm, hk wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 6, 5:56 pm, hk wrote:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...SE-Commercial-...

There's a similar looking 21-footer available, too. Mod vee hulls.
i take it that Parker sells this bare-bones model so you can outfit it
the way YOU want it with your own stuff ant your own esxpense?
Yup. What you see is what you get, unless you order more from the
factory. I'd guess around here some of the smaller commerical crabpot
fishermen will like them because of the on-deck storage and the ability
to build a mount for the pot hauler wherever they want it to be.

I know y'all have beaten this subject to death ad infinitum, and I
ignored you cuz it was mostly ad hominum attacks. But, why doesnt
Parker use a dry well on their boats? I'd think such a well known
manufacturer would do so.


What for? To catch the gallon and a half of water such "dry wells" would
hold? What happens if a lot more water than that comes over the transom?
Where does it go? Into the boat?

Remember, those are 25" transoms you are seeing, and that's just in the
notched area. The sides of the transom are a foot higher. If you were
really nervous about it, you could order the boat with a 30" transom at
the notch, but you d have to have a 30" lower unit outboard, too.

In the more than 55 years I have been boating in salt water in all sorts
of boats, including some with 15" transoms, I have never taken water
over the transom in a large enough volume to endanger the boat. But I
have taken big waves over the bow and sometimes over the sides. What I
want in those circumstances is a way to get the water out of the boat. A
more built up transom in a small open boat won't let you do that...



Harry,
Since most of Parker's boat do not have the open hole in the transom,
does that make them unsafe?

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

"Jane Parker"?? Wasn't that the generic name for the A & P bakery
line???????
Hmmm ... very interesting.....

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

N.L. Eckert wrote:
"Jane Parker"?? Wasn't that the generic name for the A & P bakery
line???????
Hmmm ... very interesting.....


No. Plain Jane Parker was born at the wonderful Parker House Hotel in
Boston, and later went on to form The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea
Company. Later, some bakery rolls were named after her.




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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:41:01 -0400, Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:


Your history of A&P reminds me of a political spin with no basis in
reality.

Those of you outside the NY/Philly area may not realize A&P is still
alive, if barely.

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

Plainer than Plain Jane New Parkers
 

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:58:38 -0400, Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:


Those of you outside the NY/Philly area may not realize A&P is still
alive, if barely.

They are a perfect example of a company that dominated the market and
then failed to change to meet the consumer's needs. Reminds me of Sears
and KMart.

Well, they keep changing, but they don't seem to meet the customer's
needs. They completely refurbished one store close to me, and within a
year, closed it to build a much bigger store a couple of miles away.
Personally, I preferred the smaller store.