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HK August 9th 08 07:19 PM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:10:12 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:11:19 -0400, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade,
Reginald
P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:08:05 -0400, hk wrote:

JimH wrote:
I did not ignore anything. I relied on a mechanic who gave me bad
advice. I no longer use that mechanic or dock my boat there.

Mistake made. I learned from it and moved on. You, however,
cannot
do the same....a common flaw in the personalities of trolls.



Jim...you realize, I hope, that when you respond here in any way to
Reggie's and ****ty posts, you are doing precisely what he wants you
do
to.

You owe him nothing. Put him in your bozo bin and leave him there.
The
****head has absolutely no interest in boats or boating, but only in
seeing how much he can provoke, here or at Chuck's.

He's just a cowardly turd...and when you engage him, some of his
stench
rubs off on you.

Flush him...and leave him there.
Jimh, the man has spoken. Don't **** him off. Remember, if he goes,
Donnie
goes.

I'm telling you this only because you're such a nice guy.
I wonder if Harry sends Donnie a list of talking points and "acceptable"
people daily or weekly?

I used to love it when Donnie called JimH, Rev Jim. I think he was
referring to the character in Taxi.
There's no doubt in my simple mind. Too many 'slips' have given the game
away. Isn't it strange how they all stopped posting at Chuck's place at
the
same time?

"There are about five of us just watching..." (or words to that effect)

No collusion there!

From my point of view...I saw how your dwarfs manipulated the situation
until Harry & JimH may have found themselves 'binned'.
(jury is still out on whether JimH was actually binned)
No way was I going to give the simple minded the pleasure of seeing all
three of us in the penalty box.

Yeah, I see where you're coming from. Harry, Jimh and you have been
nothing
but angelic, both here and there. Hell, even here it's obvious from the
number of posts you three make that you're just 'observing'.

Your collective goal is obvious. But, you're not succeeding.


Our goal was to improve this newsgroup and flush the contaminates out... and
yes, so far our success has been limited.



Same response for Herring as Reggie: **** you or eat **** and die.

Really, Don...they're just turds. Flush 'em.



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

John H.[_5_] August 9th 08 11:30 PM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:12:18 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:10:12 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:11:19 -0400, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade,
Reginald
P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:08:05 -0400, hk wrote:

JimH wrote:
I did not ignore anything. I relied on a mechanic who gave me bad
advice. I no longer use that mechanic or dock my boat there.

Mistake made. I learned from it and moved on. You, however,
cannot
do the same....a common flaw in the personalities of trolls.




Jim...you realize, I hope, that when you respond here in any way to
Reggie's and ****ty posts, you are doing precisely what he wants you
do
to.

You owe him nothing. Put him in your bozo bin and leave him there.
The
****head has absolutely no interest in boats or boating, but only in
seeing how much he can provoke, here or at Chuck's.

He's just a cowardly turd...and when you engage him, some of his
stench
rubs off on you.

Flush him...and leave him there.

Jimh, the man has spoken. Don't **** him off. Remember, if he goes,
Donnie
goes.

I'm telling you this only because you're such a nice guy.

I wonder if Harry sends Donnie a list of talking points and "acceptable"
people daily or weekly?

I used to love it when Donnie called JimH, Rev Jim. I think he was
referring to the character in Taxi.

There's no doubt in my simple mind. Too many 'slips' have given the game
away. Isn't it strange how they all stopped posting at Chuck's place at
the
same time?

"There are about five of us just watching..." (or words to that effect)

No collusion there!


From my point of view...I saw how your dwarfs manipulated the situation
until Harry & JimH may have found themselves 'binned'.
(jury is still out on whether JimH was actually binned)
No way was I going to give the simple minded the pleasure of seeing all
three of us in the penalty box.


Yeah, I see where you're coming from. Harry, Jimh and you have been
nothing
but angelic, both here and there. Hell, even here it's obvious from the
number of posts you three make that you're just 'observing'.

Your collective goal is obvious. But, you're not succeeding.


Our goal was to improve this newsgroup and flush the contaminates out... and
yes, so far our success has been limited.


Maybe you, jimh, and harry should just have your own group. That way you
can do what you will with each other and not have to put up with the likes
of us.

Wayne.B August 10th 08 12:48 AM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:30:45 GMT, John H.
wrote:

Maybe you, jimh, and harry should just have your own group. That way you
can do what you will with each other and not have to put up with the likes
of us.


I think you're on to something. Maybe they could get an apartment
together and live happily ever after.


HK August 10th 08 12:49 AM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:30:45 GMT, John H.
wrote:

Maybe you, jimh, and harry should just have your own group. That way you
can do what you will with each other and not have to put up with the likes
of us.


I think you're on to something. Maybe they could get an apartment
together and live happily ever after.



There they go again...




--
"The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade
and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion,
regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts
to weaken or undermine that right."

Don White August 10th 08 01:36 AM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 

"John H." wrote in message
...

Maybe you, jimh, and harry should just have your own group. That way you
can do what you will with each other and not have to put up with the likes
of us.


Maybe that's the way the army worked when you were an officer in it.
We don't plan to 'cut & run', we're here to do a job and we'll stick it out
like real men.



HK August 10th 08 01:39 AM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Maybe you, jimh, and harry should just have your own group. That way you
can do what you will with each other and not have to put up with the likes
of us.


Maybe that's the way the army worked when you were an officer in it.
We don't plan to 'cut & run', we're here to do a job and we'll stick it out
like real men.





Yeeeeouch!

If this were a swimming meet, you'd get a 9.8, a 9.3 and a 9.7 out of 10
from the three judges.

Herring was just the sort of fellow who would have been fragged.



--
"The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade
and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion,
regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts
to weaken or undermine that right."

Don White August 10th 08 03:45 AM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 

"hk" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Maybe you, jimh, and harry should just have your own group. That way you
can do what you will with each other and not have to put up with the
likes
of us.


Maybe that's the way the army worked when you were an officer in it.
We don't plan to 'cut & run', we're here to do a job and we'll stick it
out like real men.





Yeeeeouch!

If this were a swimming meet, you'd get a 9.8, a 9.3 and a 9.7 out of 10
from the three judges.

Herring was just the sort of fellow who would have been fragged.



I've got a suspicion he was pretty namby pamby when he commanded an
artillery unit.
Is that when the term 'friendly fire' was invented?




HK August 10th 08 03:50 AM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 
Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Maybe you, jimh, and harry should just have your own group. That way you
can do what you will with each other and not have to put up with the
likes
of us.
Maybe that's the way the army worked when you were an officer in it.
We don't plan to 'cut & run', we're here to do a job and we'll stick it
out like real men.




Yeeeeouch!

If this were a swimming meet, you'd get a 9.8, a 9.3 and a 9.7 out of 10
from the three judges.

Herring was just the sort of fellow who would have been fragged.



I've got a suspicion he was pretty namby pamby when he commanded an
artillery unit.
Is that when the term 'friendly fire' was invented?





He's a skinny schitt. Looks like he is HIV positive. I kid you not.
Emaciated.


--
"The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade
and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion,
regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts
to weaken or undermine that right."

Reginald P. Smithers III[_10_] August 10th 08 04:17 AM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 
hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Maybe you, jimh, and harry should just have your own group. That
way you
can do what you will with each other and not have to put up with
the likes
of us.
Maybe that's the way the army worked when you were an officer in it.
We don't plan to 'cut & run', we're here to do a job and we'll stick
it out like real men.



Yeeeeouch!

If this were a swimming meet, you'd get a 9.8, a 9.3 and a 9.7 out of
10 from the three judges.

Herring was just the sort of fellow who would have been fragged.



I've got a suspicion he was pretty namby pamby when he commanded an
artillery unit.
Is that when the term 'friendly fire' was invented?





He's a skinny schitt. Looks like he is HIV positive. I kid you not.
Emaciated.



Harry,
We all have seen his picture, there is no way he is emaciated, but then
again, when you are using yourself as the standard, I can understand why
you think he was emancipated.

DK August 10th 08 04:26 AM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:12:18 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:10:12 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:11:19 -0400, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade,
Reginald
P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:08:05 -0400, hk wrote:

JimH wrote:
I did not ignore anything. I relied on a mechanic who gave me bad
advice. I no longer use that mechanic or dock my boat there.

Mistake made. I learned from it and moved on. You, however,
cannot
do the same....a common flaw in the personalities of trolls.



Jim...you realize, I hope, that when you respond here in any way to
Reggie's and ****ty posts, you are doing precisely what he wants you
do
to.

You owe him nothing. Put him in your bozo bin and leave him there.
The
****head has absolutely no interest in boats or boating, but only in
seeing how much he can provoke, here or at Chuck's.

He's just a cowardly turd...and when you engage him, some of his
stench
rubs off on you.

Flush him...and leave him there.
Jimh, the man has spoken. Don't **** him off. Remember, if he goes,
Donnie
goes.

I'm telling you this only because you're such a nice guy.
I wonder if Harry sends Donnie a list of talking points and "acceptable"
people daily or weekly?

I used to love it when Donnie called JimH, Rev Jim. I think he was
referring to the character in Taxi.
There's no doubt in my simple mind. Too many 'slips' have given the game
away. Isn't it strange how they all stopped posting at Chuck's place at
the
same time?

"There are about five of us just watching..." (or words to that effect)

No collusion there!

From my point of view...I saw how your dwarfs manipulated the situation
until Harry & JimH may have found themselves 'binned'.
(jury is still out on whether JimH was actually binned)
No way was I going to give the simple minded the pleasure of seeing all
three of us in the penalty box.

Yeah, I see where you're coming from. Harry, Jimh and you have been
nothing
but angelic, both here and there. Hell, even here it's obvious from the
number of posts you three make that you're just 'observing'.

Your collective goal is obvious. But, you're not succeeding.

Our goal was to improve this newsgroup and flush the contaminates out... and
yes, so far our success has been limited.


Maybe you, jimh, and harry should just have your own group. That way you
can do what you will with each other and not have to put up with the likes
of us.


"Our goal"? Weak conspiracy but what would expect from three reprobates?

Calif Bill August 10th 08 07:41 AM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat?
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 4, 4:05 pm, "
wrote:
I need to buy a new car to replace my PathFinder (it is too old). I am
considering many difference choices. The top one on my short list is
2008 Toyota Highlander. This new model can tow 5,000 pounds. More
importantly it has great fuel efficiency (17 City / 24 Hwy). However,
according to the owner manual PDF file available online, this car
should only drive no more than 45 MPH if it is towing thing. The owner
manual doesn't say if it is applicable to a certain towing weight or
above. Seem like it is across the board regardless how much towing
weight involved. This makes me worry because 45 MPH is too slow a
driving speed on a highway. I am hoping to be at least 50 or 55 MPH.

I believe this restriction may have something to do with avoiding
swaying. According to the owner manual of my old PathFinder, it
recommends to use "sway control device" if I use it to tow anything
over 2,000 pounds. The total weight of my boat and trailer is close to
3,000 pounds. I am wondering may be the same recommendation is also
applicable for Toyota Highlander: Can I drive above 45 MPH with
Highlander if I equip it with anti-sway bar? Please note that
Highlander owner manual doesn't suggest or recommend the user of sway
control device; it is sounding like "Don't go above 45 MPH when
towing, period."

Is this 45 MPH limit a definite thing? Or is it more like a lawyer
talk?

There are several posts in the net from Highlander owners saying that
they didn't have any problem towing at 60 MPH. There was trailerboat
magazine article did road test on Highlander in towing a 4,020 pounds
boat/trailer combo, and it didn't say anything about the 45 MPH limit
or any swaying problem during towing; actually the author was driving
it at 55 MPH with a boat behind it; the only negative thing that the
author expressed had to do with towing the boat up a steepest hill at
55 MPH requiring the engine to spin at 4000 rpm (the heavy 4,020
pounds may have something to do with this). The article didn't say
anything about sway control device either. Doesn't sound like negative
real world towing experience to me.

I am confused.

The other alternative is to get a new PathFinder and add the
recommended "sway control device". Then, I am not better off or worse
off than what I have now.

The other alternative is to get a full size truck such as GMC Sierra
or Nissan Titan. According to Nissan Titan owner manual, it doesn't
have this 45 MPH restriction, and the "sway control device" is an
optional "nice to have" item. But I am afraid that it is an overkill
for my 3,000 pounds boat/trailer combo, and its fuel economy will be
worse than what I have now.

Any idea about that 45 MPH limit of Highlander? Is a Nissan PathFinder
a better choice?

Thanks in advance for any suggestion.

Jay Chan


I have changed my mind. I believe that the Highlander 45 mph limit
for towing is just "lawyer talk" to limit any potential liability. I
have found PDF versions of the owner manual of Toyota 4Runner, Tacoma,
and Tundra. They all say to limit to 45 mph while towing (saying this
has something to do with avoiding swaying). This just doesn't make
sense considering the fact that Toyota Tundra is a heavy full size
pick up truck; I just cannot imagine people will drive at 45 mph or
lower in highway while using a Tundra to towing a boat. This surely
sounds like Toyota is just trying to limit their legal liability.

I didn't notice this when I was looking for the reference of 45 mph in
an interactive owner manual for Tundra (called iGuide). I only find
this when I read the PDF version.

With this said, I put Highlander back to the top of my list.

Jay Chan

Says the same thing on Uhaul trailers.



[email protected] August 10th 08 03:19 PM

Use 2008 Toyota Highlander to Tow a Fiberglass Boat? (attn JimH)
 
On Aug 9, 11:17*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III "
wrote:
hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
m...
Maybe you, jimh, and harry should just have your own group. That
way you
can do what you will with each other and not have to put up with
the likes
of us.
Maybe that's the way the army worked when you were an officer in it.
We don't plan to 'cut & run', we're here to do a job and we'll stick
it out like real men.


Yeeeeouch!


If this were a swimming meet, you'd get a 9.8, a 9.3 and a 9.7 out of
10 from the three judges.


Herring was just the sort of fellow who would have been fragged.


I've got a suspicion he was pretty namby pamby when he commanded an
artillery unit.
Is that when the term 'friendly fire' was invented?


He's a skinny schitt. Looks like he is HIV positive. I kid you not.
Emaciated.


Harry,
We all have seen his picture, there is no way he is emaciated, but then
again, when you are using yourself as the standard, I can understand why
you think he was emancipated.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That is precious! Harry thinks that if somebody is in decent shape,
they look HIV positive. I'm sure it's from having to look at his own
fat ass in the mirror.


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