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Short Wave Sportfishing July 23rd 08 01:17 PM

Dude!!!!
 
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.

Tim July 23rd 08 01:19 PM

Dude!!!!
 
Thanks for reporting in, Tom. Sounds like you had a good start to the
orning already!

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


DownTime[_2_] July 23rd 08 01:32 PM

Dude!!!!
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


Very nice and enjoy the vacation!

Our plan as of today is to get our boat back together(resolving fuel
issues), gear packed, and head out on either Sunday or Monday to Key
West for lobster season...

[email protected] July 23rd 08 01:33 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Jul 23, 8:17*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. *Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. *I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


That's how we roll in the south! As for their location, because of
temperature differential, they'll seek a depth that pleases them.

RPS July 23rd 08 01:58 PM

Dude!!!!
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


Not too shabby.

Now did that fish give you a good fight or did it roll over and play
dead for you?


Short Wave Sportfishing July 23rd 08 02:40 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:32:18 -0400, DownTime
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


Very nice and enjoy the vacation!

Our plan as of today is to get our boat back together(resolving fuel
issues), gear packed, and head out on either Sunday or Monday to Key
West for lobster season...


WHOO HOO!!

Short Wave Sportfishing July 23rd 08 02:41 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:19:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Thanks for reporting in, Tom. Sounds like you had a good start to the
orning already!


Having a grand time - love that lake and I haven't even explored 20%
of it yet.

Saw your last post on the medical issue - great news.

I'm not going to say I told you so. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing July 23rd 08 02:51 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:33:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 23, 8:17*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. *Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. *I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


That's how we roll in the south! As for their location, because of
temperature differential, they'll seek a depth that pleases them.


I hooked up with a pro guide yesterday at the ramp - tons of
information and he was kind enough to allow me to shadow him to spots
on the lake that seem pretty productive. He had an extra passenger,
so I took him on board my boat so it all was good.

I've learned a lot in the past few days including the care and feeding
of the blue back herring - that was really interesting. Didn't even
think of things like ammonia and Ph balance in the live well - the use
of rock salt and ice was something new to me too. I think I'm going
to have to rerig myh live well with carbon filters and change the
recycle system a little. The next few days of looking into this will
be fun.

By the way, if you ever get here to fish this lake, stop at Lake World
near the dam - guy is very informative, friendly and is not shy about
sharing information. Decent prices too.

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

One thing of note - the FLW bass tour is here for the big tournament
in another week and the pros are having a tough time with the black
bass. Black bass aren't cooperating - all deep and filling up on
herring. The pros are having trouble adjusting.

~~ snerk ~~

HK July 23rd 08 03:06 PM

Dude!!!!
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.




I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

[email protected] July 23rd 08 03:12 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Jul 23, 9:51*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:33:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:17*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.


Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.


Very different is fresh water striper fishing. *Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. *I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.


Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.


Having a blast.


That's how we roll in the south! As for their location, because of
temperature differential, they'll seek a depth that pleases them.


I hooked up with a pro guide yesterday at the ramp - tons of
information and he was kind enough to allow me to shadow him to spots
on the lake that seem pretty productive. *He had an extra passenger,
so I took him on board my boat so it all was good.

I've learned a lot in the past few days including the care and feeding
of the blue back herring - that was really interesting. *Didn't even
think of things like ammonia and Ph balance in the live well - the use
of rock salt and ice was something new to me too. *I think I'm going
to have to rerig myh live well with carbon filters and change the
recycle system a little. *The next few days of looking into this will
be fun.


Blueback's are hard to keep alive even with the best of conditions. A
round tank is really helpful, believe it or not.

By the way, if you ever get here to fish this lake, stop at Lake World
near the dam - guy is very informative, friendly and is not shy about
sharing information. *Decent prices too.


Will do, was actually talking to a fishing buddy about getting up
there.

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


One technique when they are feeding well, is finding a bunch of
stripers, noting the depth they are at, then downlining live bait. If
they are shallow, then flatline, using little weight like a splitshot,
then when you are trolling around the pod of stripers, then bait will
rise and fall with the boat. Also, keep a rig with a 1/2 oz. white
bucktail jig ready, when you see a baitfish frenzy on top of the
water, start ripping that jig into them.

One thing of note - the FLW bass tour is here for the big tournament
in another week and the pros are having a tough time with the black
bass. *Black bass aren't cooperating - all deep and filling up on
herring. *The pros are having trouble adjusting.


Interesting! And thanks for the update.


Short Wave Sportfishing July 23rd 08 03:53 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:12:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 23, 9:51*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I've learned a lot in the past few days including the care and feeding
of the blue back herring - that was really interesting. *Didn't even
think of things like ammonia and Ph balance in the live well - the use
of rock salt and ice was something new to me too. *I think I'm going
to have to rerig myh live well with carbon filters and change the
recycle system a little. *The next few days of looking into this will
be fun.


Blueback's are hard to keep alive even with the best of conditions. A
round tank is really helpful, believe it or not.


Yeah - that was interesting. Apparently, they like to hang in the
corners of the tank and deplete the oxygen level there. You wouldn't
think that in a 35 gallon live well that wouildn't be a problem, but
after thinking about it, makes some sense.

Also something that I would have never thought of - the strength of
the recycle system in terms of water pressure - you don't need a lot
of power because they will hang near the spray and if it's strong, it
will know off their scales.

It has been a learning experience.

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


One technique when they are feeding well, is finding a bunch of
stripers, noting the depth they are at, then downlining live bait. If
they are shallow, then flatline, using little weight like a splitshot,
then when you are trolling around the pod of stripers, then bait will
rise and fall with the boat. Also, keep a rig with a 1/2 oz. white
bucktail jig ready, when you see a baitfish frenzy on top of the
water, start ripping that jig into them.


Cool - that's good info.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 23rd 08 03:55 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)

[email protected] July 23rd 08 04:01 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Jul 23, 10:55*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


It's probably more related to the kind of guys who fish for fluke;)

HK July 23rd 08 04:07 PM

Dude!!!!
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.




I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)



Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.


Short Wave Sportfishing July 23rd 08 04:30 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:01:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Jul 23, 10:55*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


It's probably more related to the kind of guys who fish for fluke;)


Maybe. I use big baits looking for big fish and always catch shorts
or marginal keepers. :)

Frustrating.

I know those big doormats are out there - I see other guys catching
them - I just can't seem to get the right drift or something.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 23rd 08 04:32 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:07:21 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.


I think it's the way I learned to fish for fluke. I learned using
hand lines believe it or not - never used a rod and reel for it. I've
never learned how to feel the fish out with a rod and reel.

Now that I think about it, I might try handlining in the Fall.

HK July 23rd 08 04:48 PM

Dude!!!!
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:07:21 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.
I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.
I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)

Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.


I think it's the way I learned to fish for fluke. I learned using
hand lines believe it or not - never used a rod and reel for it. I've
never learned how to feel the fish out with a rod and reel.

Now that I think about it, I might try handlining in the Fall.



Well, it is a bit different catching flounder. It was a lot easier in NE
Florida, because the ICW and its creeks there are packed with oyster
bars, and fairly light tackle, a livie, and a light touch would produce
a flounder or a redfish, and if the water were a little deeper, maybe a
seatrout.

Around here, I head straight across Chesapeake Bay to the shoreline and
look for the 20' drop point and "shell sign" areas. Again, though, the
secret for me has been light tackle, a livie if I have it, or a small
chunk of any sort of bait if I do not, and sometimes a plastic. I use
small circle hooks, debarbed.

I haven't used a handline in at least 50 years.


John H.[_5_] July 23rd 08 05:58 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:51:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:33:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 23, 8:17*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. *Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. *I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


That's how we roll in the south! As for their location, because of
temperature differential, they'll seek a depth that pleases them.


I hooked up with a pro guide yesterday at the ramp - tons of
information and he was kind enough to allow me to shadow him to spots
on the lake that seem pretty productive. He had an extra passenger,
so I took him on board my boat so it all was good.

I've learned a lot in the past few days including the care and feeding
of the blue back herring - that was really interesting. Didn't even
think of things like ammonia and Ph balance in the live well - the use
of rock salt and ice was something new to me too. I think I'm going
to have to rerig myh live well with carbon filters and change the
recycle system a little. The next few days of looking into this will
be fun.

By the way, if you ever get here to fish this lake, stop at Lake World
near the dam - guy is very informative, friendly and is not shy about
sharing information. Decent prices too.

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

One thing of note - the FLW bass tour is here for the big tournament
in another week and the pros are having a tough time with the black
bass. Black bass aren't cooperating - all deep and filling up on
herring. The pros are having trouble adjusting.

~~ snerk ~~


You take extra good care of those Herring. They all deserve it.

Have a great time.

John H.[_5_] July 23rd 08 06:01 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:32:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:07:21 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.


I think it's the way I learned to fish for fluke. I learned using
hand lines believe it or not - never used a rod and reel for it. I've
never learned how to feel the fish out with a rod and reel.

Now that I think about it, I might try handlining in the Fall.


You need to get out on the bay with Harry. That guy *knows* how to get
flounder!

[email protected] July 23rd 08 06:31 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Jul 23, 1:01*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:32:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing





wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:07:21 -0400, HK wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.


Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.


I think it's the way I learned to fish for fluke. *I learned using
hand lines believe it or not - never used a rod and reel for it. *I've
never learned how to feel the fish out with a rod and reel.


Now that I think about it, I might try handlining in the Fall.


You need to get out on the bay with Harry. That guy *knows* how to get
flounder!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And he knows all about anything else in the universe, too! Just ask
him!

RPS July 23rd 08 07:29 PM

Dude!!!!
 
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.




I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


They don't have many flounder in Lake Murray.

Calif Bill July 23rd 08 07:38 PM

Dude!!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:32:18 -0400, DownTime
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


Very nice and enjoy the vacation!

Our plan as of today is to get our boat back together(resolving fuel
issues), gear packed, and head out on either Sunday or Monday to Key
West for lobster season...


WHOO HOO!!


Not a much further drive from where you are.



John H.[_5_] July 23rd 08 07:53 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:29:44 -0400, RPS wrote:

HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.




I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


They don't have many flounder in Lake Murray.


Where they do or don't have flounder means nothing. If you have the right
boat you can catch them anywhere.

Larry July 23rd 08 07:56 PM

Dude!!!!
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


Pshaw....little minnow! Use bigger hooks so the l'il ones will leave the
bait alone. G'won back out there with the boatwinch. There's lots bigger
ones than this l'il fellow waitin' to eat him!

Silly boy.....Usta fishin' in Yankee waters....tsk tsk....

I saw a shark fin swimmin' up the Ashley out front, 8 miles from the harbor
this morning. At first, I thought it was kinda far upriver for those
nuclear sub boys to be joy ridin' in the fast attacks, but then I noticed
there wasn't a hole in the top of the conning tower for the captain to
stand in and no antennas, just fin. You want 'im? Even the big alligators
were climbin' up into the swamp grass to stay out of his way!


RPS July 23rd 08 08:02 PM

Dude!!!!
 
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:53:43 GMT, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:29:44 -0400, RPS wrote:

HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.
They don't have many flounder in Lake Murray.

Where they do or don't have flounder means nothing. If you have the right
boat you can catch them anywhere.


I hear that with a Zimmerman-like flounder boat, you can't miss!



That was 5 yrs ago, today the fish (especially the flounder) bite best
if you use a Parker with an open Flow-Thru Transom.

John H.[_5_] July 23rd 08 08:02 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:55:03 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:53:43 GMT, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:29:44 -0400, RPS wrote:

HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.



I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

They don't have many flounder in Lake Murray.


Where they do or don't have flounder means nothing. If you have the right
boat you can catch them anywhere.


I hear that with a Zimmerman-like flounder boat, you can't miss!


You're gonna get binned if you keep that up!

JR North July 23rd 08 09:10 PM

Dude!!!!
 
Good catch. No feeeeeshing for me for a while.
JR


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


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[email protected] July 23rd 08 09:15 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Jul 23, 3:02*pm, RPS wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:53:43 GMT, John H.
wrote:


On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:29:44 -0400, RPS wrote:


HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.
They don't have many flounder in Lake Murray.
Where they do or don't have flounder means nothing. If you have the right
boat you can catch them anywhere.


I hear that with a Zimmerman-like flounder boat, you can't miss!


That was 5 yrs ago, today the fish (especially the flounder) bite best
if you use a Parker with an open Flow-Thru Transom.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey, don't knock the Parker, Harry has put it's pink slip up for a bet
that he and I have. I have this funny feeling he'll chicken **** his
way out though....

Short Wave Sportfishing July 23rd 08 11:05 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:53:43 GMT, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:29:44 -0400, RPS wrote:

HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


They don't have many flounder in Lake Murray.


Where they do or don't have flounder means nothing. If you have the right
boat you can catch them anywhere.


And even if you don't, you can always throw the fish under the rear
wheels of the truck and make it a flounder. :)

I have heard that low transom boats are 'da bomb for flounder fishing
- something about the free flow of water or something like that. :)

Just for giggles, tomorrow I'm going to try a variation of the old
First American technique of thumping on the hull of the boat - we'll
see how that works out.

For some reason I can't figure out, I have a couple of bubbler teasers
(tuna teasers) onboard along with a heavy boat rod I forgot to remove
from the boat for the trip. I might play around with that for a while
- see if I can raise some stripers that way.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 23rd 08 11:06 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:15:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 23, 3:02*pm, RPS wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:53:43 GMT, John H.
wrote:


On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:29:44 -0400, RPS wrote:


HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.
They don't have many flounder in Lake Murray.
Where they do or don't have flounder means nothing. If you have the right
boat you can catch them anywhere.


I hear that with a Zimmerman-like flounder boat, you can't miss!


That was 5 yrs ago, today the fish (especially the flounder) bite best
if you use a Parker with an open Flow-Thru Transom.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey, don't knock the Parker, Harry has put it's pink slip up for a bet
that he and I have. I have this funny feeling he'll chicken **** his
way out though....


Hey - if it's a race, I'm in. :)

Eisboch July 23rd 08 11:24 PM

Dude!!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)



My father in law lived to fish for flounder. He had a unique way of both
cleaning, fileting and cooking them and they were really good eating. He'd
catch a winter's supply during the summer, freeze 'em and, in his words,
"Nuke" 'em (cook them in the microwave).

I am not a big fish eater, but I have to admit, they were good.

Eisboch



John H.[_5_] July 23rd 08 11:50 PM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:24:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)



My father in law lived to fish for flounder. He had a unique way of both
cleaning, fileting and cooking them and they were really good eating. He'd
catch a winter's supply during the summer, freeze 'em and, in his words,
"Nuke" 'em (cook them in the microwave).

I am not a big fish eater, but I have to admit, they were good.

Eisboch


I've recently become a fan of Costco's tilapia. That's a pretty good fish
for the price they charge. The little Belarussian kids love it too.

JimH[_2_] July 24th 08 12:00 AM

Dude!!!!
 
On Jul 23, 6:50*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:24:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.


Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


My father in law lived to fish for flounder. *He had a unique way of both
cleaning, fileting and cooking them and they were really good eating. *He'd
catch a winter's supply during the summer, freeze 'em and, in his words,
"Nuke" 'em *(cook them in the microwave).


I am not a big fish eater, but I have to admit, they were good.


Eisboch


I've recently become a fan of Costco's tilapia. That's a pretty good fish
for the price they charge. The little Belarussian kids love it too.


http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2...ngers-tilapia/

http://health.usnews.com/articles/he...elp-heart.html

http://www.wkyc.com/news/health/heal...=92741&catid=7

http://www.scidev.net/en/health/edit...cosystems.html

Dude!

Short Wave Sportfishing July 24th 08 12:07 AM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:50:15 GMT, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:24:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)



My father in law lived to fish for flounder. He had a unique way of both
cleaning, fileting and cooking them and they were really good eating. He'd
catch a winter's supply during the summer, freeze 'em and, in his words,
"Nuke" 'em (cook them in the microwave).

I am not a big fish eater, but I have to admit, they were good.


I've recently become a fan of Costco's tilapia. That's a pretty good fish
for the price they charge. The little Belarussian kids love it too.


That's an interesting fish the tilapia.

The lobster of fishes.

[email protected] July 24th 08 12:11 AM

Dude!!!!
 
On Jul 23, 6:50*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:24:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.


Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


My father in law lived to fish for flounder. *He had a unique way of both
cleaning, fileting and cooking them and they were really good eating. *He'd
catch a winter's supply during the summer, freeze 'em and, in his words,
"Nuke" 'em *(cook them in the microwave).


I am not a big fish eater, but I have to admit, they were good.


Eisboch


I've recently become a fan of Costco's tilapia. That's a pretty good fish
for the price they charge. The little Belarussian kids love it too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If you saw "Dirty Jobs" last night, you might change your mind.. They
are raised in the desert southwest in huge tanks where they are used
specifically to eat all the poo that comes from the hybred bass tanks.
When they are too big, they are sold for food.. But they are raised
exclusively on poo.. ewwwwwwwww......

JimH[_2_] July 24th 08 12:17 AM

Dude!!!!
 
On Jul 23, 7:11*pm, wrote:
On Jul 23, 6:50*pm, John H. wrote:



On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:24:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.


Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


My father in law lived to fish for flounder. *He had a unique way of both
cleaning, fileting and cooking them and they were really good eating. *He'd
catch a winter's supply during the summer, freeze 'em and, in his words,
"Nuke" 'em *(cook them in the microwave).


I am not a big fish eater, but I have to admit, they were good.


Eisboch


I've recently become a fan of Costco's tilapia. That's a pretty good fish
for the price they charge. The little Belarussian kids love it too.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


If you saw "Dirty Jobs" last night, you might change your mind.. They
are raised in the desert southwest in huge tanks where they are used
specifically to eat all the poo that comes from the hybred bass tanks.
When they are too big, they are sold for food.. But they are raised
exclusively on poo.. ewwwwwwwww......


According to one member here...................."The Lobster of
Fishes"!

John H.[_5_] July 24th 08 12:19 AM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:07:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

The lobster of fishes.


Hadn't heard it referred to like that, but it is pretty good. Good for you
too!

John H.[_5_] July 24th 08 12:22 AM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:11:02 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Jul 23, 6:50*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:24:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.


I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.


I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.


Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


My father in law lived to fish for flounder. *He had a unique way of both
cleaning, fileting and cooking them and they were really good eating. *He'd
catch a winter's supply during the summer, freeze 'em and, in his words,
"Nuke" 'em *(cook them in the microwave).


I am not a big fish eater, but I have to admit, they were good.


Eisboch


I've recently become a fan of Costco's tilapia. That's a pretty good fish
for the price they charge. The little Belarussian kids love it too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If you saw "Dirty Jobs" last night, you might change your mind.. They
are raised in the desert southwest in huge tanks where they are used
specifically to eat all the poo that comes from the hybred bass tanks.
When they are too big, they are sold for food.. But they are raised
exclusively on poo.. ewwwwwwwww......


Hell, everything you eat is either pre-poo or post-poo. So, what the hell?
Catfish eat a lot of poo too, you know!

Vic Smith July 24th 08 12:22 AM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:19:27 GMT, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:07:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

The lobster of fishes.


Hadn't heard it referred to like that, but it is pretty good. Good for you
too!


Not sure what SW means. Isn't a lobster a big bug that lives in the
sea?

--Vic

Short Wave Sportfishing July 24th 08 01:21 AM

Dude!!!!
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:22:44 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:19:27 GMT, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:07:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

The lobster of fishes.


Hadn't heard it referred to like that, but it is pretty good. Good for you
too!


Not sure what SW means. Isn't a lobster a big bug that lives in the
sea?


Um....they eat...em...er...stuff.

Sewage treatment plants use them to help filter waste water.


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