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John H.[_5_] July 23rd 08 12:36 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
His latest ad says Obama has passed a law to keep nuclear weapons out of
terrorist's hands.

Does Iran obey our laws now? Did I miss something here? ???

Or is the ad addressed to those who get their news from the Simpsons or
Beavis and Butthead, i.e., those who will gain from Obama's income
redistribution plans.

HK July 23rd 08 12:47 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
John H. wrote:
His latest ad says Obama has passed a law to keep nuclear weapons out of
terrorist's hands.

Does Iran obey our laws now? Did I miss something here? ???

Or is the ad addressed to those who get their news from the Simpsons or
Beavis and Butthead, i.e., those who will gain from Obama's income
redistribution plans.



You really, truly, are a dumb schitt...thank god you are no longer in
the military.

In 2005, U.S. Sen. Dick Lugar, then the chairman of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee, and Obama traveled to Russia, Ukraine and
Azerbaijan to examine the former Soviet Union's stockpiles of nuclear,
chemical and biological weapons. Lugar and former Sen. Sam Nunn, D-Ga.,
were the authors of legislation in 1991 to provide money and expertise
to those countries to safeguard and dismantle those stockpiles and their
delivery systems.

Obama and Lugar teamed up to sponsor legislation to expand the
Nunn-Lugar effort to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass
destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The
legislation became law last year.



What's McCain done? Chant "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran?"

Larry July 23rd 08 03:38 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
John H. wrote in
:

His latest ad says Obama has passed a law to keep nuclear weapons out

of
terrorist's hands.

Does Iran obey our laws now? Did I miss something here? ???

Or is the ad addressed to those who get their news from the Simpsons

or
Beavis and Butthead, i.e., those who will gain from Obama's income
redistribution plans.


No matter who we vote for, the person with their finger on THAT BUTTON
will be a member of all the same secret societies as Bush W and his dad.

CFR
Freemasons
Banker cartels
Bohemian Society
etc.....

We're not allowed to vote for anyone but the secret societies'
employees....

The election is a sham. It's already been decided by the CFR elite.

Haven't you seen the news?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LBrDzZCOQtI

The election may be saved, however, by an emerging third party group:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QWdN4hA-rB0

Here, you can see some of the terrible damage done by the last one
America picked....well, not exactly picked....the judges picked. Right,
Harry?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_aEURwsrUSQ

If cable tv would give Onion News their own 24 hour news channel, I
might be tempted to buy cable tv service with my internet as there would
be something worth watching besides all those lies, drivel and
commercials on all the other news channels....Fox, CNN, MSNBC, QVC,
Weather Channel...all propaganda lies.

http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=TheOnion
The highest rated videos on YouTube....Noone else is even close!


Larry July 23rd 08 04:30 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
HK wrote in news:6en9ruF814ofU1
@mid.individual.net:

In 2005, U.S. Sen. Dick Lugar, then the chairman of the CFL-controlled

Senate Foreign
Relations Committee, and Obama traveled to Russia, Ukraine and
Azerbaijan to examine the former Soviet Union's stockpiles of nuclear,


Text corrected to reflect who actually RUNS the FRC.....

They're all club members, including Lugar.


Larry July 24th 08 03:54 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Gene Kearns wrote in
:

Larry, as a Past Master and Past Patron, you have finally convinced me
that you are a nut case. Listing the above in the same sentence is
just unbelievable.... Banker Cartels? Bohemian Society? WTF is
that???? A bunch of coked out ex-rockers??? Jeeze. You are stuck in
some sort of time dilation of 1840's South Carolina politics.....



I'll play for a while.....

YOU took an oath to Freemasonry...many oaths if you got as high as you
say.

By taking this oath, above all else, you have committed yourself,
totally, to the constitution, edicts, instructions, and dogma of this
secret society.

How can ANYONE who takes a solemn oath, with awful punishments for
simply revealing Freemasony outside the cult, take ANOTHER oath to
protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, in direct
conflict with his Freemasonry oath to obey whatever the Supreme Council,
CONVENIENTLY located a symbolic 13 blocks North of the front doof of the
White House, tells him to do?

Who do you obey? Suppose your Freemason Supreme Council tells you to
bomb Iraq, against the will of the American People, against the
constitution because no war against Iraq has been declared by the
Congress and a vast majority of the American people are against it? Who
do you obey? YOU are the Freemason President with all that power to
push that button as you see fit. So isn't your Freemason Vice
President, your Freemason Secretary of Defense, your Freemasons in the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, CIA, FBI, Justice Department, Homeland Security,
FEMA and every other important agency heads.

It's not just Freemasonry. It's ALL the secret societies. Skull and
Bones at Yale, Bohemian Society and their owl burning rituals for the
super elite in Northern California where the Atomic Bomb was dreamed up,
the Council On Foreign Relations secret society, the Trilateral
Commission secret society....where do all their LOYALTIES LIE? Who
pulls THEIR strings, too?

Freemasonry was infiltrated by the Banking Elite long before you walked
through that door. It's common knowledge. Hell, they were at the top
of the pyramid from the beginning of most lodges after the masons
screwed up and opened membership outside their guilds. Money took over.
It still controls it. What if some "other entity" took control, say,
for example, Zionists, which would explain why AIPAC has so much control
over our government and its policies and its purse strings vis-a-vis
Israel? They get into high places and tell the Freemason 32nd degree in
the Oval Office he must obey his oath and attack Zionism's
enemies...Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, other Arab states. Is it very
important WE, the people who will pay the price for his treachery, know
EXACTLY where his allegiance lies...to US or to THEM?

But that basic question of who are YOU, a Freemason, loyal to, having
taken that binding oath to follow the orders from above you in
Freemasonry....first, ahead of everything else....that SHOULD preclude
you from taking a solemn oath to hold office in any government level in
America...or any other civilized country who forces its politicians to
swear allegiance to the COUNTRY...ONLY.

I've only taken one oath in my life. I took an oath to defend the
Constitution and my country the day I went in the Navy. It didn't mean
a lot to me then, having the gun held to my head by the damned draft
board, but it means a lot to me now in my old age. I just don't see how
any man can take an oath to a religion or cult or secret society and
SERIOUSLY take an oath to defend the country. It's a clear conflict of
interest...especially given Freemasonry's murderous history to those who
violated their oath to it, once dragged into it.

Tell me now how crazy I am.....I've listened to Freemasonry's attack
before, even to my face by local politicians. This isn't about drunks
in Fezs riding around on expensive motorcycles making a lot of noise to
attract public attention in a parade. With his finger on THAT BUTTON,
it's deadly serious for the whole of humanity on this little blue planet
who that goddamned Freemason in the White House owes his allegiance
to....US or Freemasonry? Who's Number One?

Being an atheist, I'm not eligible to belong to most cults, including
yours. I'm just as afraid of some Christian nut with his finger on THAT
BUTTON, who thinks, dispite a mountain of evidence to the contrary, the
Earth is 8000 years old made by some superguy in the sky as I am of
Freemasons in that seat. What's REALLY scary is the ones that profess
to be BOTH, in direct conflict of Freemasonry and Christian or Jewish or
Islamic dogmas. The Christians' Bible tells them not to take any oaths,
like Freemasonry's or they're gonna pay the price. It says so in
several places. How can anyone be BOTH? Someone is a liar, to
themselves, to their cults, to America.....and, right now, he's got that
finger on THAT BUTTON!




HK July 24th 08 04:13 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Larry wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote in
:

Larry, as a Past Master and Past Patron, you have finally convinced me
that you are a nut case. Listing the above in the same sentence is
just unbelievable.... Banker Cartels? Bohemian Society? WTF is
that???? A bunch of coked out ex-rockers??? Jeeze. You are stuck in
some sort of time dilation of 1840's South Carolina politics.....



I'll play for a while.....

YOU took an oath to Freemasonry...many oaths if you got as high as you
say.

By taking this oath, above all else, you have committed yourself,
totally, to the constitution, edicts, instructions, and dogma of this
secret society.

How can ANYONE who takes a solemn oath, with awful punishments for
simply revealing Freemasony outside the cult, take ANOTHER oath to
protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, in direct
conflict with his Freemasonry oath to obey whatever the Supreme Council,
CONVENIENTLY located a symbolic 13 blocks North of the front doof of the
White House, tells him to do?

Who do you obey? Suppose your Freemason Supreme Council tells you to
bomb Iraq, against the will of the American People, against the
constitution because no war against Iraq has been declared by the
Congress and a vast majority of the American people are against it? Who
do you obey? YOU are the Freemason President with all that power to
push that button as you see fit. So isn't your Freemason Vice
President, your Freemason Secretary of Defense, your Freemasons in the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, CIA, FBI, Justice Department, Homeland Security,
FEMA and every other important agency heads.

It's not just Freemasonry. It's ALL the secret societies. Skull and
Bones at Yale, Bohemian Society and their owl burning rituals for the
super elite in Northern California where the Atomic Bomb was dreamed up,
the Council On Foreign Relations secret society, the Trilateral
Commission secret society....where do all their LOYALTIES LIE? Who
pulls THEIR strings, too?

Freemasonry was infiltrated by the Banking Elite long before you walked
through that door. It's common knowledge. Hell, they were at the top
of the pyramid from the beginning of most lodges after the masons
screwed up and opened membership outside their guilds. Money took over.
It still controls it. What if some "other entity" took control, say,
for example, Zionists, which would explain why AIPAC has so much control
over our government and its policies and its purse strings vis-a-vis
Israel? They get into high places and tell the Freemason 32nd degree in
the Oval Office he must obey his oath and attack Zionism's
enemies...Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, other Arab states. Is it very
important WE, the people who will pay the price for his treachery, know
EXACTLY where his allegiance lies...to US or to THEM?

But that basic question of who are YOU, a Freemason, loyal to, having
taken that binding oath to follow the orders from above you in
Freemasonry....first, ahead of everything else....that SHOULD preclude
you from taking a solemn oath to hold office in any government level in
America...or any other civilized country who forces its politicians to
swear allegiance to the COUNTRY...ONLY.

I've only taken one oath in my life. I took an oath to defend the
Constitution and my country the day I went in the Navy. It didn't mean
a lot to me then, having the gun held to my head by the damned draft
board, but it means a lot to me now in my old age. I just don't see how
any man can take an oath to a religion or cult or secret society and
SERIOUSLY take an oath to defend the country. It's a clear conflict of
interest...especially given Freemasonry's murderous history to those who
violated their oath to it, once dragged into it.

Tell me now how crazy I am.....I've listened to Freemasonry's attack
before, even to my face by local politicians. This isn't about drunks
in Fezs riding around on expensive motorcycles making a lot of noise to
attract public attention in a parade. With his finger on THAT BUTTON,
it's deadly serious for the whole of humanity on this little blue planet
who that goddamned Freemason in the White House owes his allegiance
to....US or Freemasonry? Who's Number One?

Being an atheist, I'm not eligible to belong to most cults, including
yours. I'm just as afraid of some Christian nut with his finger on THAT
BUTTON, who thinks, dispite a mountain of evidence to the contrary, the
Earth is 8000 years old made by some superguy in the sky as I am of
Freemasons in that seat. What's REALLY scary is the ones that profess
to be BOTH, in direct conflict of Freemasonry and Christian or Jewish or
Islamic dogmas. The Christians' Bible tells them not to take any oaths,
like Freemasonry's or they're gonna pay the price. It says so in
several places. How can anyone be BOTH? Someone is a liar, to
themselves, to their cults, to America.....and, right now, he's got that
finger on THAT BUTTON!





What? You don't believe in the superguy in the sky?

Have you seen this?

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...istiangene.flv

Mike[_6_] July 24th 08 04:38 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Larry,

What can I say, other than well put. I'll admit, I know little about
"Freemasons," or any other secret cult, other than their existance. I guess
I don't have enough $$$ to be invited into such an organization whew.
Kinda like "Scientologists" I suppose. Thanks for the education!

I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have that
covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime soon. g We
will however, help many needy children, and their families.

--Mike

San Jose, CA
Lodge #522


"Larry" wrote in message
...
Gene Kearns wrote in
:

Larry, as a Past Master and Past Patron, you have finally convinced me
that you are a nut case. Listing the above in the same sentence is
just unbelievable.... Banker Cartels? Bohemian Society? WTF is
that???? A bunch of coked out ex-rockers??? Jeeze. You are stuck in
some sort of time dilation of 1840's South Carolina politics.....



I'll play for a while.....

YOU took an oath to Freemasonry...many oaths if you got as high as you
say.

By taking this oath, above all else, you have committed yourself,
totally, to the constitution, edicts, instructions, and dogma of this
secret society.

How can ANYONE who takes a solemn oath, with awful punishments for
simply revealing Freemasony outside the cult, take ANOTHER oath to
protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, in direct
conflict with his Freemasonry oath to obey whatever the Supreme Council,
CONVENIENTLY located a symbolic 13 blocks North of the front doof of the
White House, tells him to do?

Who do you obey? Suppose your Freemason Supreme Council tells you to
bomb Iraq, against the will of the American People, against the
constitution because no war against Iraq has been declared by the
Congress and a vast majority of the American people are against it? Who
do you obey? YOU are the Freemason President with all that power to
push that button as you see fit. So isn't your Freemason Vice
President, your Freemason Secretary of Defense, your Freemasons in the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, CIA, FBI, Justice Department, Homeland Security,
FEMA and every other important agency heads.

It's not just Freemasonry. It's ALL the secret societies. Skull and
Bones at Yale, Bohemian Society and their owl burning rituals for the
super elite in Northern California where the Atomic Bomb was dreamed up,
the Council On Foreign Relations secret society, the Trilateral
Commission secret society....where do all their LOYALTIES LIE? Who
pulls THEIR strings, too?

Freemasonry was infiltrated by the Banking Elite long before you walked
through that door. It's common knowledge. Hell, they were at the top
of the pyramid from the beginning of most lodges after the masons
screwed up and opened membership outside their guilds. Money took over.
It still controls it. What if some "other entity" took control, say,
for example, Zionists, which would explain why AIPAC has so much control
over our government and its policies and its purse strings vis-a-vis
Israel? They get into high places and tell the Freemason 32nd degree in
the Oval Office he must obey his oath and attack Zionism's
enemies...Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, other Arab states. Is it very
important WE, the people who will pay the price for his treachery, know
EXACTLY where his allegiance lies...to US or to THEM?

But that basic question of who are YOU, a Freemason, loyal to, having
taken that binding oath to follow the orders from above you in
Freemasonry....first, ahead of everything else....that SHOULD preclude
you from taking a solemn oath to hold office in any government level in
America...or any other civilized country who forces its politicians to
swear allegiance to the COUNTRY...ONLY.

I've only taken one oath in my life. I took an oath to defend the
Constitution and my country the day I went in the Navy. It didn't mean
a lot to me then, having the gun held to my head by the damned draft
board, but it means a lot to me now in my old age. I just don't see how
any man can take an oath to a religion or cult or secret society and
SERIOUSLY take an oath to defend the country. It's a clear conflict of
interest...especially given Freemasonry's murderous history to those who
violated their oath to it, once dragged into it.

Tell me now how crazy I am.....I've listened to Freemasonry's attack
before, even to my face by local politicians. This isn't about drunks
in Fezs riding around on expensive motorcycles making a lot of noise to
attract public attention in a parade. With his finger on THAT BUTTON,
it's deadly serious for the whole of humanity on this little blue planet
who that goddamned Freemason in the White House owes his allegiance
to....US or Freemasonry? Who's Number One?

Being an atheist, I'm not eligible to belong to most cults, including
yours. I'm just as afraid of some Christian nut with his finger on THAT
BUTTON, who thinks, dispite a mountain of evidence to the contrary, the
Earth is 8000 years old made by some superguy in the sky as I am of
Freemasons in that seat. What's REALLY scary is the ones that profess
to be BOTH, in direct conflict of Freemasonry and Christian or Jewish or
Islamic dogmas. The Christians' Bible tells them not to take any oaths,
like Freemasonry's or they're gonna pay the price. It says so in
several places. How can anyone be BOTH? Someone is a liar, to
themselves, to their cults, to America.....and, right now, he's got that
finger on THAT BUTTON!






HK July 24th 08 04:45 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Mike wrote:
Larry,

What can I say, other than well put. I'll admit, I know little about
"Freemasons," or any other secret cult, other than their existance. I guess
I don't have enough $$$ to be invited into such an organization whew.
Kinda like "Scientologists" I suppose. Thanks for the education!

I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have that
covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime soon. g We
will however, help many needy children, and their families.

--Mike




Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.



Larry July 24th 08 06:13 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
HK wrote in news:6eqabcF8de18U1
@mid.individual.net:

What? You don't believe in the superguy in the sky?

Have you seen this?


Ha! That's very funny.

Have you seen this?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=X2epvSAGuLc

Dawkins is right.....

Larry July 24th 08 06:26 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
"Mike" wrote in
:

I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have
that covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime
soon. g We will however, help many needy children, and their
families.



I don't find much bad press for Elks. They don't have symbolism related to
Lucifer, with earth symbols covered in netting over the front door and you
don't have to be an Elk to be considered as a political candidate, high
level government bureaucrat, or even Federal Reserve Banker. If they have
a political agenda related to the New World Order, they are much more
successful at hiding it than Freemasons are.

And, I don't think the other Elks threaten to slit their throats from ear
to ear and disembowel their guts into the street for minor transgressions
like Freemasons do....no murders or ritualistic genocides.

Likewise Moose lodges seem less threatening, even than BPOE....

Unlike Freemasons, the various animal lodges don't fill every public space
with phallic symbols like the Phallis of Osirus (Washington Monument) or
the one that USED to be in a Masonic worship park called Dealey Plaza
EXACTLY east of the spot where JFK was murdered.....a simple coincidence
I'm sure....

The Masonic symbols have been replaced, by the way, with a reflecting pool,
most of the rest taken away. Less questions, I suppose.




Larry July 24th 08 06:28 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
@mid.individual.net:

Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.



Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?

Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?


Vic Smith July 24th 08 11:01 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:38:22 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

Larry,

What can I say, other than well put. I'll admit, I know little about
"Freemasons," or any other secret cult, other than their existance. I guess
I don't have enough $$$ to be invited into such an organization whew.
Kinda like "Scientologists" I suppose. Thanks for the education!

I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have that
covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime soon. g We
will however, help many needy children, and their families.

--Mike

Well, as much as I'd like to hear what Gene says about all this, I
figure if he tells us, he'll have to kill us.
I'm kind of wondering where AARP falls into this, because I was
thinking of becoming a member.
Having second thoughts about that now.

--Vic

HK July 24th 08 11:04 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Larry wrote:
"Mike" wrote in
:

I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have
that covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime
soon. g We will however, help many needy children, and their
families.



I don't find much bad press for Elks. They don't have symbolism related to
Lucifer, with earth symbols covered in netting over the front door and you
don't have to be an Elk to be considered as a political candidate, high
level government bureaucrat, or even Federal Reserve Banker. If they have
a political agenda related to the New World Order, they are much more
successful at hiding it than Freemasons are.

And, I don't think the other Elks threaten to slit their throats from ear
to ear and disembowel their guts into the street for minor transgressions
like Freemasons do....no murders or ritualistic genocides.

Likewise Moose lodges seem less threatening, even than BPOE....


Lots of guys join these organizations so they have a cheap place to
drink themselves into oblivion every night.


HK July 24th 08 11:05 AM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Larry wrote:
HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
@mid.individual.net:

Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.



Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?

Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?



None, I am sad to say. :)

Don White July 24th 08 02:44 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...
Larry,

What can I say, other than well put. I'll admit, I know little about
"Freemasons," or any other secret cult, other than their existance. I
guess I don't have enough $$$ to be invited into such an organization
whew. Kinda like "Scientologists" I suppose. Thanks for the education!

I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have that
covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime soon. g
We will however, help many needy children, and their families.

--Mike

San Jose, CA
Lodge #522




Does your Grand Exaulted Ruler know how you act here?



[email protected] July 24th 08 02:46 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
On Jul 24, 6:05*am, HK wrote:
Larry wrote:
HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
@mid.individual.net:


Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.


Don White July 24th 08 02:47 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Larry wrote:
"Mike" wrote in
:
I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have
that covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime
soon. g We will however, help many needy children, and their
families.


I don't find much bad press for Elks. They don't have symbolism related
to Lucifer, with earth symbols covered in netting over the front door and
you don't have to be an Elk to be considered as a political candidate,
high level government bureaucrat, or even Federal Reserve Banker. If
they have a political agenda related to the New World Order, they are
much more successful at hiding it than Freemasons are.

And, I don't think the other Elks threaten to slit their throats from ear
to ear and disembowel their guts into the street for minor transgressions
like Freemasons do....no murders or ritualistic genocides.

Likewise Moose lodges seem less threatening, even than BPOE....


Lots of guys join these organizations so they have a cheap place to drink
themselves into oblivion every night.


Hee hee. that's why we joined as young adults. A nice fun place to gather &
meet for pool, card games etc.



Gene Kearns July 24th 08 03:58 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:54:36 +0000, Larry penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene Kearns wrote in
:
|
| Larry, as a Past Master and Past Patron, you have finally convinced me
| that you are a nut case. Listing the above in the same sentence is
| just unbelievable.... Banker Cartels? Bohemian Society? WTF is
| that???? A bunch of coked out ex-rockers??? Jeeze. You are stuck in
| some sort of time dilation of 1840's South Carolina politics.....
|
|
|
|I'll play for a while.....
|
|YOU took an oath to Freemasonry...many oaths if you got as high as you
|say.
|
|By taking this oath, above all else, you have committed yourself,
|totally, to the constitution, edicts, instructions, and dogma of this
|secret society.

There is no constitution. There are no edicts because there is nobody
to pass them down. There is no dogma. How could it be a secret society
if you know about it?

|
|How can ANYONE who takes a solemn oath, with awful punishments for
|simply revealing Freemasony outside the cult, take ANOTHER oath to
|protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, in direct
|conflict with his Freemasonry oath to obey whatever the Supreme Council,
|CONVENIENTLY located a symbolic 13 blocks North of the front doof of the
|White House, tells him to do?

Part of that oath is to obey the laws of your land...There is no
Supreme Council. If you are referring to the Scottish Rite, they are
merely an appendant group. Just like the Shriners, you have to be a
Freemason to join, but it is not a part of Freemasonry.


|Who do you obey? Suppose your Freemason Supreme Council tells you to
|bomb Iraq, against the will of the American People, against the
|constitution because no war against Iraq has been declared by the
|Congress and a vast majority of the American people are against it?

You have an incredibly tilted notion of what this is about. There is
no "Freemason Supreme Council." Again, if you are talking Scottish
Rite, they have no authority over any Blue Lodge... quite to the
contrary, the Blue Lodges hold authority over *all* of the appendant
bodies.

| Who
|do you obey? YOU are the Freemason President with all that power to
|push that button as you see fit. So isn't your Freemason Vice
|President, your Freemason Secretary of Defense, your Freemasons in the
|Joint Chiefs of Staff, CIA, FBI, Justice Department, Homeland Security,
|FEMA and every other important agency heads.

Hmmmm.... I give you something to worry about....

Clinton was not a Mason, neither was Johnson. McCain probably is.
Obama is a Prince Hall Mason.... I wonder what the changes will be
when the Prince Hall Supreme Council takes over? Wow... this can get
really weird, really fast....

|It's not just Freemasonry. It's ALL the secret societies. Skull and
|Bones at Yale, Bohemian Society and their owl burning rituals for the
|super elite in Northern California where the Atomic Bomb was dreamed up,
|the Council On Foreign Relations secret society, the Trilateral
|Commission secret society....where do all their LOYALTIES LIE? Who
|pulls THEIR strings, too?

I have no clue. I don't even know if they have strings! I know they
have nothing to do with Freemasonry. I belong to The Benevolent &
Protective Order of Elks an Elk, too..... what insidious designs do
they have that I am not aware of?

|Freemasonry was infiltrated by the Banking Elite long before you walked
|through that door. It's common knowledge.

Really? First I've heard of it. In fact, I don't think I know of a
single banker in my lodge.... a couple of CPAs, but no bankers. Do you
suppose they are under cover?

|Hell, they were at the top
|of the pyramid from the beginning of most lodges after the masons
|screwed up and opened membership outside their guilds. Money took over.

Wow! As master I was responsible for auditing the books. You mean all
of those events we held to raise money for the Masonic Orphanage and
the Masonic Home were unnecessary?

|It still controls it. What if some "other entity" took control, say,
|for example, Zionists, which would explain why AIPAC has so much control
|over our government and its policies and its purse strings vis-a-vis
|Israel? They get into high places and tell the Freemason 32nd degree in
|the Oval Office he must obey his oath and attack Zionism's
|enemies...Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, other Arab states. Is it very
|important WE, the people who will pay the price for his treachery, know
|EXACTLY where his allegiance lies...to US or to THEM?
|
|But that basic question of who are YOU, a Freemason, loyal to, having
|taken that binding oath to follow the orders from above you in
|Freemasonry....first, ahead of everything else....that SHOULD preclude
|you from taking a solemn oath to hold office in any government level in
|America...or any other civilized country who forces its politicians to
|swear allegiance to the COUNTRY...ONLY.

No Freemason makes any sort of commitment that runs at cross purposes
to his family, his religion, or his country. I don't know who YOU are
following, but they certainly have no idea of what Freemasonry is
about.

|It's a clear conflict of
|interest...especially given Freemasonry's murderous history to those who
|violated their oath to it, once dragged into it.

I guess everybody knows that to be true, too?

|Tell me now how crazy I am.....I've listened to Freemasonry's attack
|before, even to my face by local politicians.

Oh..... bull****.


|The Christians' Bible tells them not to take any oaths,
Not that is matters to me, but no, it doesn't.

--
Agent 5.00 Build 1159
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

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HK July 24th 08 04:18 PM

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:54:36 +0000, Larry penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene Kearns wrote in
:
|
| Larry, as a Past Master and Past Patron, you have finally convinced me
| that you are a nut case. Listing the above in the same sentence is
| just unbelievable.... Banker Cartels? Bohemian Society? WTF is
| that???? A bunch of coked out ex-rockers??? Jeeze. You are stuck in
| some sort of time dilation of 1840's South Carolina politics.....
|
|
|
|I'll play for a while.....
|
|YOU took an oath to Freemasonry...many oaths if you got as high as you
|say.
|
|By taking this oath, above all else, you have committed yourself,
|totally, to the constitution, edicts, instructions, and dogma of this
|secret society.

There is no constitution. There are no edicts because there is nobody
to pass them down. There is no dogma. How could it be a secret society
if you know about it?

|
|How can ANYONE who takes a solemn oath, with awful punishments for
|simply revealing Freemasony outside the cult, take ANOTHER oath to
|protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, in direct
|conflict with his Freemasonry oath to obey whatever the Supreme Council,
|CONVENIENTLY located a symbolic 13 blocks North of the front doof of the
|White House, tells him to do?

Part of that oath is to obey the laws of your land...There is no
Supreme Council. If you are referring to the Scottish Rite, they are
merely an appendant group. Just like the Shriners, you have to be a
Freemason to join, but it is not a part of Freemasonry.


|Who do you obey? Suppose your Freemason Supreme Council tells you to
|bomb Iraq, against the will of the American People, against the
|constitution because no war against Iraq has been declared by the
|Congress and a vast majority of the American people are against it?

You have an incredibly tilted notion of what this is about. There is
no "Freemason Supreme Council." Again, if you are talking Scottish
Rite, they have no authority over any Blue Lodge... quite to the
contrary, the Blue Lodges hold authority over *all* of the appendant
bodies.

| Who
|do you obey? YOU are the Freemason President with all that power to
|push that button as you see fit. So isn't your Freemason Vice
|President, your Freemason Secretary of Defense, your Freemasons in the
|Joint Chiefs of Staff, CIA, FBI, Justice Department, Homeland Security,
|FEMA and every other important agency heads.

Hmmmm.... I give you something to worry about....

Clinton was not a Mason, neither was Johnson. McCain probably is.
Obama is a Prince Hall Mason.... I wonder what the changes will be
when the Prince Hall Supreme Council takes over? Wow... this can get
really weird, really fast....

|It's not just Freemasonry. It's ALL the secret societies. Skull and
|Bones at Yale, Bohemian Society and their owl burning rituals for the
|super elite in Northern California where the Atomic Bomb was dreamed up,
|the Council On Foreign Relations secret society, the Trilateral
|Commission secret society....where do all their LOYALTIES LIE? Who
|pulls THEIR strings, too?

I have no clue. I don't even know if they have strings! I know they
have nothing to do with Freemasonry. I belong to The Benevolent &
Protective Order of Elks an Elk, too..... what insidious designs do
they have that I am not aware of?

|Freemasonry was infiltrated by the Banking Elite long before you walked
|through that door. It's common knowledge.

Really? First I've heard of it. In fact, I don't think I know of a
single banker in my lodge.... a couple of CPAs, but no bankers. Do you
suppose they are under cover?

|Hell, they were at the top
|of the pyramid from the beginning of most lodges after the masons
|screwed up and opened membership outside their guilds. Money took over.

Wow! As master I was responsible for auditing the books. You mean all
of those events we held to raise money for the Masonic Orphanage and
the Masonic Home were unnecessary?

|It still controls it. What if some "other entity" took control, say,
|for example, Zionists, which would explain why AIPAC has so much control
|over our government and its policies and its purse strings vis-a-vis
|Israel? They get into high places and tell the Freemason 32nd degree in
|the Oval Office he must obey his oath and attack Zionism's
|enemies...Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, other Arab states. Is it very
|important WE, the people who will pay the price for his treachery, know
|EXACTLY where his allegiance lies...to US or to THEM?
|
|But that basic question of who are YOU, a Freemason, loyal to, having
|taken that binding oath to follow the orders from above you in
|Freemasonry....first, ahead of everything else....that SHOULD preclude
|you from taking a solemn oath to hold office in any government level in
|America...or any other civilized country who forces its politicians to
|swear allegiance to the COUNTRY...ONLY.

No Freemason makes any sort of commitment that runs at cross purposes
to his family, his religion, or his country. I don't know who YOU are
following, but they certainly have no idea of what Freemasonry is
about.

|It's a clear conflict of
|interest...especially given Freemasonry's murderous history to those who
|violated their oath to it, once dragged into it.

I guess everybody knows that to be true, too?

|Tell me now how crazy I am.....I've listened to Freemasonry's attack
|before, even to my face by local politicians.

Oh..... bull****.


|The Christians' Bible tells them not to take any oaths,
Not that is matters to me, but no, it doesn't.



I suppose if you like to believe in exotic cults, you'd buy into Larry's
view of Freemasonry. My father was part of Freemasonry and was a member
of Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, and I
suppose the brothers there overlooked his blue eyes, fair skin and blond
hair. :)

[email protected] July 24th 08 04:20 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
On Jul 24, 1:28*am, Larry wrote:
HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
@mid.individual.net:

Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit..


Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?

Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?


He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)

RPS July 24th 08 04:29 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:54:36 +0000, Larry penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


As a member of the Freemasons, I am sure you are privy to all of the
secrets, wasn't Jack the Ripper a Freemason who was out to kill a woman
carrying the illegitimate child of a Royal Family Member? This is just
between us in rec.boats, so it won't get back to your lodge. ;)

Gene Kearns July 24th 08 05:02 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:29:59 -0400, RPS penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene Kearns wrote:
| On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:54:36 +0000, Larry penned the following well
| considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
|
|As a member of the Freemasons, I am sure you are privy to all of the
|secrets, wasn't Jack the Ripper a Freemason who was out to kill a woman
|carrying the illegitimate child of a Royal Family Member? This is just
|between us in rec.boats, so it won't get back to your lodge. ;)

Yes, that is true.............................ly fiction!

Murder by Decree (1979) (The wife and I saw it.)

Sherlock Holmes, usually correct, makes really bizarre motions
purported to be some sort of Masonic signs. Maybe you've stumbled onto
something, though..... Larry, Sherlock, and the 7%
solution...............

--
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Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
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Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
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Gene Kearns July 24th 08 05:03 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered
thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Jul 24, 1:28*am, Larry wrote:
| HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
| @mid.individual.net:
|
| Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.
|
| Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?
|
| Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
|
|He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)

National Black Farmers Association?

--
Agent 5.00 Build 1159
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

HK July 24th 08 05:17 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered
thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Jul 24, 1:28 am, Larry wrote:
| HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
| @mid.individual.net:
|
| Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.
|
| Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?
|
| Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
|
|He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)

National Black Farmers Association?



Speaking of which, our corn is now close to 6' tall. Actually, "our" is
a bit of overspeak. It's the corn planted by the guy who rents our
field. I do, however, have table-picking rights. I should take a photo
or two, because right now the field is really pretty, if you are into
aggie subjects.

RPS July 24th 08 05:40 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered
thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Jul 24, 1:28 am, Larry wrote:
| HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
| @mid.individual.net:
|
| Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class
dimwit.
|
| Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?
|
| Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
|
|He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)

National Black Farmers Association?



Speaking of which, our corn is now close to 6' tall. Actually, "our" is
a bit of overspeak. It's the corn planted by the guy who rents our
field. I do, however, have table-picking rights. I should take a photo
or two, because right now the field is really pretty, if you are into
aggie subjects.


A good photographer can make a great photo with any subject. I am a
rookie, so I have not really been successful, but i would love to see
some of your work. I could learn a lot

HK July 24th 08 05:45 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
RPS wrote:
HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered
thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Jul 24, 1:28 am, Larry wrote:
| HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
| @mid.individual.net:
|
| Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class
dimwit.
|
| Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?
|
| Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
|
|He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)

National Black Farmers Association?



Speaking of which, our corn is now close to 6' tall. Actually, "our"
is a bit of overspeak. It's the corn planted by the guy who rents our
field. I do, however, have table-picking rights. I should take a photo
or two, because right now the field is really pretty, if you are into
aggie subjects.


A good photographer can make a great photo with any subject. I am a
rookie, so I have not really been successful, but i would love to see
some of your work. I could learn a lot



I'll be glad to mail a couple of publications with my photos in them to
your home address.

RPS July 24th 08 05:50 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
HK wrote:
RPS wrote:
HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered
thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Jul 24, 1:28 am, Larry wrote:
| HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
| @mid.individual.net:
|
| Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a
loogy-class dimwit.
|
| Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?
|
| Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
|
|He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)

National Black Farmers Association?



Speaking of which, our corn is now close to 6' tall. Actually, "our"
is a bit of overspeak. It's the corn planted by the guy who rents our
field. I do, however, have table-picking rights. I should take a
photo or two, because right now the field is really pretty, if you
are into aggie subjects.


A good photographer can make a great photo with any subject. I am a
rookie, so I have not really been successful, but i would love to see
some of your work. I could learn a lot



I'll be glad to mail a couple of publications with my photos in them to
your home address.


Thanks
Please send them to:
RPS
PO Box 2192
Atlanta, GA 30324

I am sure others would enjoy your work, so you may also want to provide
a link for them.

HK July 24th 08 05:54 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
RPS wrote:
HK wrote:



RPS wrote:
HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered
thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Jul 24, 1:28 am, Larry wrote:
| HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
| @mid.individual.net:
|
| Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a
loogy-class dimwit.
|
| Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this
subject?
|
| Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
|
|He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)

National Black Farmers Association?



Speaking of which, our corn is now close to 6' tall. Actually, "our"
is a bit of overspeak. It's the corn planted by the guy who rents
our field. I do, however, have table-picking rights. I should take a
photo or two, because right now the field is really pretty, if you
are into aggie subjects.

A good photographer can make a great photo with any subject. I am a
rookie, so I have not really been successful, but i would love to see
some of your work. I could learn a lot



I'll be glad to mail a couple of publications with my photos in them
to your home address.


Thanks
Please send them to:
RPS
PO Box 2192
Atlanta, GA 30324

I am sure others would enjoy your work, so you may also want to provide
a link for them.




Nice try, schitthead. Try reading for content:

"I'll be glad to mail a couple of publications with my photos in them
to your *home* address."


[email protected] July 24th 08 06:04 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
On Jul 24, 12:54*pm, HK wrote:
RPS wrote:
HK wrote:
RPS wrote:
HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT),
penned the following well considered
thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


|On Jul 24, 1:28 am, Larry wrote:
| HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
| @mid.individual.net:
|
| Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a
loogy-class dimwit.
|
| Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this
subject?
|
| Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
|
|He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)


National Black Farmers Association?


Speaking of which, our corn is now close to 6' tall. Actually, "our"
is a bit of overspeak. It's the corn planted by the guy who rents
our field. I do, however, have table-picking rights. I should take a
photo or two, because right now the field is really pretty, if you
are into aggie subjects.


A good photographer can make a great photo with any subject. *I am a
rookie, so I have not really been successful, but i would love to see
some of your work. *I could learn a lot


I'll be glad to mail a couple of publications with my photos in them
to your home address.


Thanks
Please send them to:
RPS
PO Box 2192
Atlanta, GA *30324


I am sure others would enjoy your work, so you may also want to provide
a link for them.


Nice try, schitthead. Try reading for content:

"I'll be glad to mail a couple of publications with my photos in them
* to your *home* address."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Dance, fat boy!!

Gene Kearns July 24th 08 06:35 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:17:49 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene Kearns wrote:
| On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT),
| penned the following well considered
| thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |On Jul 24, 1:28 am, Larry wrote:
| | HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
| | @mid.individual.net:
| |
| | Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.
| |
| | Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?
| |
| | Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
| |
| |He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)
|
| National Black Farmers Association?
|
|
|
|Speaking of which, our corn is now close to 6' tall. Actually, "our" is
|a bit of overspeak. It's the corn planted by the guy who rents our
|field. I do, however, have table-picking rights. I should take a photo
|or two, because right now the field is really pretty, if you are into
|aggie subjects.

You must be doing some serious watering. It is so dry here, the corn
is stunted and the leaves are rolled up.

--
Agent 5.00 Build 1159
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

HK July 24th 08 06:46 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:17:49 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene Kearns wrote:
| On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT),
| penned the following well considered
| thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |On Jul 24, 1:28 am, Larry wrote:
| | HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
| | @mid.individual.net:
| |
| | Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.
| |
| | Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?
| |
| | Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
| |
| |He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)
|
| National Black Farmers Association?
|
|
|
|Speaking of which, our corn is now close to 6' tall. Actually, "our" is
|a bit of overspeak. It's the corn planted by the guy who rents our
|field. I do, however, have table-picking rights. I should take a photo
|or two, because right now the field is really pretty, if you are into
|aggie subjects.

You must be doing some serious watering. It is so dry here, the corn
is stunted and the leaves are rolled up.


No watering at all. We had a wet spring, and we've had decent and
sometimes heavy rainfalls every since. Everyone's plantings around here
look damned good, the best I've seen since moving to Maryland.

Larry July 24th 08 09:12 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Gene Kearns wrote in news:4888988d$0
:

No Freemason makes any sort of commitment that runs at cross purposes
to his family, his religion, or his country. I don't know who YOU are
following, but they certainly have no idea of what Freemasonry is
about.



http://www.trosch.org/bks/blue_lodge.html

This is just one of over 318,000 websites Google found. I know nothing
about this nutcase and frankly I don't care, but I cannot fathom that all
318,000 websites about your oath are all a pack of liars and
schitzophrenics with an axe to grind against Freemasons if Freemasons are
totally innocent, as you infer.

So, you proclaim to your Freemasons across the world you never took any
kind of oath like this at any time in your Freemason history? Is that
correct? I'm not talking about the exact wording listed in this website.
I'm talking about ANY OATH OF ALLEGIANCE OR LOYALTY to Freemasonry over all
others, regardless of the exact wording.

Do you so proclaim?

Freemasonry sure has the Christians all stirred up and fighting mad.....One
cannot but wonder why. There aren't thousands of Christian webpages
against Elks, VFW Posts, American Legion, Order of the Moose or other odd
animal lodges full of drunks trying to stay away from their dominant wives.

Why is that? Why is it FREEMASONRY they are so adamantly after if nothing
is wrong?


Larry July 24th 08 09:25 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
Gene Kearns wrote in news:4888988d$0
:

Oh..... bull****.



http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com...hyileftfreemas
onry.htm

Is this bull****, too?

http://www.religion-cults.com/Secret.../freemas2.html

and this?

http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/netmason.html

and how about the Catholics?

http://www.catholicculture.org/libra...fm?recnum=1243

and all this is wrong, too?

http://members.aol.com/mason24a/words.htm

I can't believe all these people are a pack of liars and malcontents. I
CAN believe they have some important information I need to know about the
CULTS my President, with his FINGER ON THAT BUTTON, belongs to and
worships....above all others.....


JimH[_2_] July 24th 08 09:32 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
On Jul 24, 1:35*pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:17:49 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene Kearns wrote:

| On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT),
| penned the following well considered
| thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |On Jul 24, 1:28 am, Larry wrote:
| | HK wrote in news:6eqc5kF89lf3U2
| | @mid.individual.net:
| |
| | Kee-rist...at least Larry is entertaining. Mike is a loogy-class dimwit.
| |
| | Have you noticed how unusually quiet Harry has been on this subject?
| |
| | Which secret societies do you belong to, Harry?
| |
| |He has to be N.B.F.A.... ;)
|
| National Black Farmers Association?
|
|
|
|Speaking of which, our corn is now close to 6' tall. Actually, "our" is
|a bit of overspeak. It's the corn planted by the guy who rents our
|field. I do, however, have table-picking rights. I should take a photo
|or two, because right now the field is really pretty, if you are into
|aggie subjects.

You must be doing some serious watering. It is so dry here, the corn
is stunted and the leaves are rolled up.

--
Agent 5.00 Build 1159
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


We purchase our corn from a local farmer who runs a stand close to our
house. He lost 20 acres of corn this Spring due to the heavy rains.
Other than that his other 100 acres are producing some sweet, juicy
and tasty corn. Nothing like locally grown produce.

John H.[_5_] July 24th 08 09:52 PM

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:01:49 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:38:22 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

Larry,

What can I say, other than well put. I'll admit, I know little about
"Freemasons," or any other secret cult, other than their existance. I guess
I don't have enough $$$ to be invited into such an organization whew.
Kinda like "Scientologists" I suppose. Thanks for the education!

I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have that
covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime soon. g We
will however, help many needy children, and their families.

--Mike

Well, as much as I'd like to hear what Gene says about all this, I
figure if he tells us, he'll have to kill us.
I'm kind of wondering where AARP falls into this, because I was
thinking of becoming a member.
Having second thoughts about that now.

--Vic


If you're in to supporting liberal organizations, join them. I lasted a
couple years before I couldn't take it any more.

Any motel will give you the AARP discount just by asking about it. You'll
never have to say you're a member. (Assuming you look at least 50!)

HK July 24th 08 09:54 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:01:49 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:38:22 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

Larry,

What can I say, other than well put. I'll admit, I know little about
"Freemasons," or any other secret cult, other than their existance. I guess
I don't have enough $$$ to be invited into such an organization whew.
Kinda like "Scientologists" I suppose. Thanks for the education!

I am an Elk though, and our only oath is, to believe in God, be a U.S.
citizen, and to defend the U.S. Constitution... no problem, I have that
covered. I guess we won't be influencing any elections anytime soon. g We
will however, help many needy children, and their families.

--Mike

Well, as much as I'd like to hear what Gene says about all this, I
figure if he tells us, he'll have to kill us.
I'm kind of wondering where AARP falls into this, because I was
thinking of becoming a member.
Having second thoughts about that now.

--Vic


If you're in to supporting liberal organizations, join them. I lasted a
couple years before I couldn't take it any more.


The guy who runs AARP used to work for Nixon's re-election committee,
dumbass.

John H.[_5_] July 24th 08 09:57 PM

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:12:00 +0000, Larry wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote in news:4888988d$0
:

No Freemason makes any sort of commitment that runs at cross purposes
to his family, his religion, or his country. I don't know who YOU are
following, but they certainly have no idea of what Freemasonry is
about.



http://www.trosch.org/bks/blue_lodge.html

This is just one of over 318,000 websites Google found. I know nothing
about this nutcase and frankly I don't care, but I cannot fathom that all
318,000 websites about your oath are all a pack of liars and
schitzophrenics with an axe to grind against Freemasons if Freemasons are
totally innocent, as you infer.

So, you proclaim to your Freemasons across the world you never took any
kind of oath like this at any time in your Freemason history? Is that
correct? I'm not talking about the exact wording listed in this website.
I'm talking about ANY OATH OF ALLEGIANCE OR LOYALTY to Freemasonry over all
others, regardless of the exact wording.

Do you so proclaim?

Freemasonry sure has the Christians all stirred up and fighting mad.....One
cannot but wonder why. There aren't thousands of Christian webpages
against Elks, VFW Posts, American Legion, Order of the Moose or other odd
animal lodges full of drunks trying to stay away from their dominant wives.

Why is that? Why is it FREEMASONRY they are so adamantly after if nothing
is wrong?


Larry, I'm one of 'the Christians', and I'm not stirred up in the least
over Freemasonry.

But, I am wondering how big a generator I should get for my new travel
trailer.

Vic Smith July 24th 08 11:08 PM

Obama and Nuclear Weapons
 
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:52:50 GMT, John H.
wrote:


If you're in to supporting liberal organizations, join them. I lasted a
couple years before I couldn't take it any more.

Any motel will give you the AARP discount just by asking about it. You'll
never have to say you're a member. (Assuming you look at least 50!)


Yeah, that's why I haven't joined. One time I was walking away from
the clerk because I didn't like the price, and she called after me,
"Do you work for a corporation?"
"Nope."
"Did you ever work for a corporation?"
"Yep."
"Well, then, blah, blah..."

--Vic

Mike[_6_] July 25th 08 12:52 AM

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There aren't thousands of Christian webpages
against Elks, VFW Posts, American Legion, Order of the Moose or other odd
animal lodges full of drunks trying to stay away from their dominant
wives.

Whoa there Larry. We joined because of the pool, not the bar... g

--Mike

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Gene Kearns wrote in
news:4888988d$0
:

No Freemason makes any sort of commitment that runs at cross purposes
to his family, his religion, or his country. I don't know who YOU are
following, but they certainly have no idea of what Freemasonry is
about.



http://www.trosch.org/bks/blue_lodge.html

This is just one of over 318,000 websites Google found. I know nothing
about this nutcase and frankly I don't care, but I cannot fathom that all
318,000 websites about your oath are all a pack of liars and
schitzophrenics with an axe to grind against Freemasons if Freemasons are
totally innocent, as you infer.

So, you proclaim to your Freemasons across the world you never took any
kind of oath like this at any time in your Freemason history? Is that
correct? I'm not talking about the exact wording listed in this website.
I'm talking about ANY OATH OF ALLEGIANCE OR LOYALTY to Freemasonry over
all
others, regardless of the exact wording.

Do you so proclaim?

Freemasonry sure has the Christians all stirred up and fighting
mad.....One
cannot but wonder why. There aren't thousands of Christian webpages
against Elks, VFW Posts, American Legion, Order of the Moose or other odd
animal lodges full of drunks trying to stay away from their dominant
wives.

Why is that? Why is it FREEMASONRY they are so adamantly after if nothing
is wrong?




Larry July 25th 08 04:11 AM

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John H. wrote in
:

But, I am wondering how big a generator I should get for my new travel
trailer.



How many air conditioner units does it have and how big a battery
charger?

If I didn't already have a Honda EU3000i electronic generator powering
my mobile lab, I'd get the EU6500i like this one....:

http://www.hayesequipment.com/eu6500is.htm

Hayes even has a WIRELESS remote starting kit for it that looks like
your car unlock keyfob with automatic choke. Just press the button
before you crawl out of bed and let the coach heat or cool off before
your shower.

Mine is mounted on the back of a stepvan on two 1000 lb angle brackets
positioned to permanently bolt the support legs to. Then, a protective
cover that locks in the running position also swings down on hinges at
the outer edge of the angle brackets made of aluminum with a flat steel
frame for strength. The cover has a long slot cut in the side of it to
match the air/exhaust coming out the end of the genset. The entire
bottom of the mounting is wide open as these generators have intake air
channels built into their legs underneath. Cover closed the already
whisper quiet little 3KW genset is even quieter. Closed cell foam lines
the inside of the swing down weather cover, which lets me run the
genset, even on the road, in a heavy dounpour without getting it wet or
leaving the sun to bake it.

In a travel traler situation, towed with a pickup of choice, I'd leave
it in the pickup bed to run away from the trailer on a long tether.
With the Hayes wireless remote control, you can start it from quite a
ways away. You can't run it out of oil as it simply shuts down if the
oil is too low.

They're expensive, but once you own one and open it up to see how it's
made, it's totally worth every dollar. Unlike "normal" gensets, the
generator NEVER runs 3600 RPM! The EU3000i turns 1200 RPM up until
about 1800 watts of load (probably around 4KW on the 6500i). Then, the
onboard load computer slowly increases the crazy 6 phase alternator
built inside the engine flywheel like in an outboard motor, to increase
the speed the rare earth magnets, part of the price, pass the various
coils. This alternator is very high frequency, dependent on engine
speed. It's output is rectified into high DC voltage, which is fed to a
computer-controlled, 6.5KW solid state inverter made to run off this HV
DC. No matter what the mechanical alternator speed is, the output
frequency is EXACTLY 60 Hz at EXACTLY 120VAC, a synthesized sine wave so
smooth it's approved for running computers....all the way across the
load spectrum. The speed of the engine does NOT set the AC frequency,
at all....a great relief to longevity from engines always running 3600
RPM constantly. At 1200 RPM, it's loafing along half asleep.

The EU6500i isn't light, the reason for the little wheelbarrow to move
it. You'll need a ramp or two people can carry it off the truck.
Running in power outages at home, my neighbors are astonished to see my
lights burning in the pitch black with so little noise from the genset
mounted on the truck. It's a very pleasant hum at 1200 RPM....(c;



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