Fuel Starvation?
 

"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
On Jul 26, 11:20 pm, Reginald Smithers III wrote:


I am not coveting anything , do not resent anyone and am not jealous
of anyone's success. What I stated is the truth. Sorry you see it
differently.

BTW: The knives are JA Henckels and my John Deere tractor is running
just fine.


It's just Smithers, trying as usual to stir up a little schitt.

He's back in my resurrected bozo bin, along with the rest of the dwarfs.

I just started it up again, and it's already caught and flushed the crap
from Mike, Herring, Reggie, and Florida Jim, and it is set to flush the
others. It's amazing how little traffic there is here when you don't see
or smell those turd droppers. :)

Turd droppers??
Is more like they're running around with a full blown case of diarrhea
without their Pampers.
What a stinky messy bunch.

Fuel Starvation?
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
On Jul 26, 11:20 pm, Reginald Smithers III wrote:


I am not coveting anything , do not resent anyone and am not jealous
of anyone's success. What I stated is the truth. Sorry you see it
differently.

BTW: The knives are JA Henckels and my John Deere tractor is running
just fine.

It's just Smithers, trying as usual to stir up a little schitt.

He's back in my resurrected bozo bin, along with the rest of the dwarfs.

I just started it up again, and it's already caught and flushed the crap
from Mike, Herring, Reggie, and Florida Jim, and it is set to flush the
others. It's amazing how little traffic there is here when you don't see
or smell those turd droppers. :)

Turd droppers??
Is more like they're running around with a full blown case of diarrhea
without their Pampers.
What a stinky messy bunch.




Hey! I was *trying* to be polite. Well, not really. :) I can hardly
wait for the Daily Double Bakers' Dozen from Diarrhea Dan (DK) to be
caught and flushed, though the effluent probably will clog the filter
for a moment or two.

Plenty of smaller boats out yesterday on Chesapeake Bay, again more than
I have seen in a while. When I got back to the ramp, we were all treated
to the sounds of a double engined, mufferless "penis boat" being started
and warmed up for some 50-gallon an hour "excitement." This is mostly a
fisherman's marina I use these days, and just about everybody goes out
of their way to be friendly, helpful, and non-intrusive, even, god help
me, the PWC'ers. So the dweeb with the "penis boat" got a few Bronx
cheers as he chugged out of the little harbor. Oh...he had the
obligatory heavy gold chain necklace and the babe with him had the
obligatory artificial tits. Well, at least she wouldn't need a life
jacket, no matter what happened.

Fuel Starvation?
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
On Jul 26, 11:20 pm, Reginald Smithers III wrote:


I am not coveting anything , do not resent anyone and am not jealous
of anyone's success. What I stated is the truth. Sorry you see it
differently.

BTW: The knives are JA Henckels and my John Deere tractor is running
just fine.

It's just Smithers, trying as usual to stir up a little schitt.

He's back in my resurrected bozo bin, along with the rest of the dwarfs.

I just started it up again, and it's already caught and flushed the crap
from Mike, Herring, Reggie, and Florida Jim, and it is set to flush the
others. It's amazing how little traffic there is here when you don't see
or smell those turd droppers. :)

Turd droppers??
Is more like they're running around with a full blown case of diarrhea
without their Pampers.
What a stinky messy bunch.


Hey! I was *trying* to be polite. Well, not really. :) I can hardly wait
for the Daily Double Bakers' Dozen from Diarrhea Dan (DK) to be caught and
flushed, though the effluent probably will clog the filter for a moment or
two.

Plenty of smaller boats out yesterday on Chesapeake Bay, again more than I
have seen in a while. When I got back to the ramp, we were all treated to
the sounds of a double engined, mufferless "penis boat" being started and
warmed up for some 50-gallon an hour "excitement." This is mostly a
fisherman's marina I use these days, and just about everybody goes out of
their way to be friendly, helpful, and non-intrusive, even, god help me,
the PWC'ers. So the dweeb with the "penis boat" got a few Bronx cheers as
he chugged out of the little harbor. Oh...he had the obligatory heavy
gold chain necklace and the babe with him had the obligatory artificial
tits. Well, at least she wouldn't need a life jacket, no matter what
happened.


We've run into a bad stretch of damp, humid weather.
Today is supposed to be nice and then we return to the usual for the next
four days.
Winds are light so I may take the Yukon down to Mahone Bay to hobnob with
the yachtie crowd.
I hope the weather improves for this event:
http://www.mahonebayclassicboatfestival.org/
and..
http://chesterraceweek.com/
Mahone Bay is a beautiful place to boat and a local committee has been very
successful saving a number of beautiful unspoiled islands from greedy
developers and
carperbaggers. http://www.mahoneislands.ns.ca/events/aad_2007.shtml

Fuel Starvation?
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
On Jul 26, 11:20 pm, Reginald Smithers III wrote:


I am not coveting anything , do not resent anyone and am not jealous
of anyone's success. What I stated is the truth. Sorry you see it
differently.

BTW: The knives are JA Henckels and my John Deere tractor is running
just fine.

It's just Smithers, trying as usual to stir up a little schitt.

He's back in my resurrected bozo bin, along with the rest of the dwarfs.

I just started it up again, and it's already caught and flushed the crap
from Mike, Herring, Reggie, and Florida Jim, and it is set to flush the
others. It's amazing how little traffic there is here when you don't see
or smell those turd droppers. :)

Turd droppers??
Is more like they're running around with a full blown case of diarrhea
without their Pampers.
What a stinky messy bunch.


Hey! I was *trying* to be polite. Well, not really. :) I can hardly wait
for the Daily Double Bakers' Dozen from Diarrhea Dan (DK) to be caught and
flushed, though the effluent probably will clog the filter for a moment or
two.

Plenty of smaller boats out yesterday on Chesapeake Bay, again more than I
have seen in a while. When I got back to the ramp, we were all treated to
the sounds of a double engined, mufferless "penis boat" being started and
warmed up for some 50-gallon an hour "excitement." This is mostly a
fisherman's marina I use these days, and just about everybody goes out of
their way to be friendly, helpful, and non-intrusive, even, god help me,
the PWC'ers. So the dweeb with the "penis boat" got a few Bronx cheers as
he chugged out of the little harbor. Oh...he had the obligatory heavy
gold chain necklace and the babe with him had the obligatory artificial
tits. Well, at least she wouldn't need a life jacket, no matter what
happened.

So you guys have something in common, pecker head. Except you don't have the
gold or a Babe. You and Jim H are certainly letting your jealous streaks
show lately. What's up?

Fuel Starvation?
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
On Jul 26, 11:20 pm, Reginald Smithers III wrote:


I am not coveting anything , do not resent anyone and am not jealous
of anyone's success. What I stated is the truth. Sorry you see it
differently.

BTW: The knives are JA Henckels and my John Deere tractor is running
just fine.
It's just Smithers, trying as usual to stir up a little schitt.

He's back in my resurrected bozo bin, along with the rest of the dwarfs.

I just started it up again, and it's already caught and flushed the crap
from Mike, Herring, Reggie, and Florida Jim, and it is set to flush the
others. It's amazing how little traffic there is here when you don't see
or smell those turd droppers. :)
Turd droppers??
Is more like they're running around with a full blown case of diarrhea
without their Pampers.
What a stinky messy bunch.

Hey! I was *trying* to be polite. Well, not really. :) I can hardly wait
for the Daily Double Bakers' Dozen from Diarrhea Dan (DK) to be caught and
flushed, though the effluent probably will clog the filter for a moment or
two.

Plenty of smaller boats out yesterday on Chesapeake Bay, again more than I
have seen in a while. When I got back to the ramp, we were all treated to
the sounds of a double engined, mufferless "penis boat" being started and
warmed up for some 50-gallon an hour "excitement." This is mostly a
fisherman's marina I use these days, and just about everybody goes out of
their way to be friendly, helpful, and non-intrusive, even, god help me,
the PWC'ers. So the dweeb with the "penis boat" got a few Bronx cheers as
he chugged out of the little harbor. Oh...he had the obligatory heavy
gold chain necklace and the babe with him had the obligatory artificial
tits. Well, at least she wouldn't need a life jacket, no matter what
happened.


We've run into a bad stretch of damp, humid weather.
Today is supposed to be nice and then we return to the usual for the next
four days.
Winds are light so I may take the Yukon down to Mahone Bay to hobnob with
the yachtie crowd.
I hope the weather improves for this event:
http://www.mahonebayclassicboatfestival.org/
and..
http://chesterraceweek.com/
Mahone Bay is a beautiful place to boat and a local committee has been very
successful saving a number of beautiful unspoiled islands from greedy
developers and
carperbaggers. http://www.mahoneislands.ns.ca/events/aad_2007.shtml




My wife has me out in the yard, shoveling mulch. It's 87F and rising and
the humidity is about the same, so I duck inside after shoveling,
wheelbarrowing, and dumping each three wheelbarrows full. It makes me so
happy my wife found a supplier of cypress mulch by the truckload instead
of by the bagful. :)

Fuel Starvation?
 

On Jul 21, 3:55*pm, HK wrote:
DownTime wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
"Nothing in this chapter shall prohibit the selling of a consumer
product which has both full and limited warranties if such warranties
are clearly and conspicuously differentiated. "

Most warranties are going to be fairly specific about the type of fuel
you can use. If not, there would be people wanting to sue them over
unsuccessfully using propane (or acetylene, or hydrogen) in a boat.

The law was on your side.... it probably won't be for Downtime....

The full email is pasted below. I am curious to know if they, or any
company can decide to change warranty terms 'on the fly'. I think I
might be missing something here, time for a call to the dealer to
clarify this.

"To All BMW of Fort Myers Customers:

We have been advised by BMWNA that with the release of E10 and E85
gasoline with ethanol, there is a need to advise customers that is very
important to put quality gasoline into their vehicles.

The sale of E10, blended ethanol fuel, is on the rise in the US as more
states are mandating its use to improve air quality. *Also promoting the
growth of E10 allows the phase out of the current additive MTBE that has
been found to contaminate ground water supplies. *Even so, the amount of
ethanol added to the gasoline could raise the alcohol level of the fuel
and cause your vehicle to crank, but not start; stall out; and/or run
rough. *BMW has advised us that they will not warranty, or goodwill,
necessary repairs due to bad gas or high alcohol content in the fuel.

Some of the parts that could be damaged by poor fuel quality include
fuel pumps (high pressure pumps as well), fuel filter, injectors, etc.
The problems start because E10 is very effective solvent and it will
attack varnish, gum, and resins: *the sludge that can build up in fuel
tanks. *Once cleaned off the fuel tank walls, poor performance with
clogged filters and injectors is common. *Also ethanol has a great
affinity for water, and will attract moisture from the atmosphere. Water
is heavier than gas so the water/ethanol molecule is dragged to the
bottom of the tank and separates from the more buoyant fuel molecules. *
This is called phase separation. *When this separation occurs you end up
with a corrosive water/ethanol layer on the bottom of the tank, under
what is now substandard fuel. *Water displaces gasoline and then pits
and corrodes the metal surfaces causing premature wear on the fuel
pump. *Water also reacts with various components in the fuel and forms
acids, which corrode the injector tips as well.

Water when sucked into an engine will shut it down. *It must be cleaned,
and the oil changed. *However, a water/ethanol mixture causes a more
serious problem, because instead of just shutting the engine down, the
mixture can be partially combusted, but not effectively, which can
damage the engine. *Over a period of time this mixture will cause
excessive carbon deposits, which can wear on pistons and valves.

We recommend that only "top tier" fuels be used, and if necessary a
gasoline additive with "techron" be added, occasionally. *If possible,
make sure you know your gasoline retailer and try to buy your gasoline
from the same location as often as possible. *The best deal isn't always
the cheapest deal."

This is absurdity on its face. Almost all gasoline is delivered to
retail stations from tank farms, where everyone's product is pretty much
* exactly this same, other than additives dumped in to raise octane.

You think "Shell" gasoline comes from Shell?

How are you supposed to know if you are buying "top tier" gasoline,
since what's in the tanks of the service stations could be almost anything.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Almost all gasoline is delivered to
retail stations from tank farms, where everyone's product is pretty
much exactly this same,

Up here, it IS all the same.I know this for fact due to a close friend
who trucks gas.
I can see the flames coming now from the Dwarfs, doubting my validity
again, after the " Tall Ships " thread.

Fuel Starvation?
 

wrote in message
...
On Jul 21, 3:55 pm, HK wrote:
DownTime wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
"Nothing in this chapter shall prohibit the selling of a consumer
product which has both full and limited warranties if such warranties
are clearly and conspicuously differentiated. "

Most warranties are going to be fairly specific about the type of fuel
you can use. If not, there would be people wanting to sue them over
unsuccessfully using propane (or acetylene, or hydrogen) in a boat.

The law was on your side.... it probably won't be for Downtime....

The full email is pasted below. I am curious to know if they, or any
company can decide to change warranty terms 'on the fly'. I think I
might be missing something here, time for a call to the dealer to
clarify this.

"To All BMW of Fort Myers Customers:

We have been advised by BMWNA that with the release of E10 and E85
gasoline with ethanol, there is a need to advise customers that is very
important to put quality gasoline into their vehicles.

The sale of E10, blended ethanol fuel, is on the rise in the US as more
states are mandating its use to improve air quality. Also promoting the
growth of E10 allows the phase out of the current additive MTBE that has
been found to contaminate ground water supplies. Even so, the amount of
ethanol added to the gasoline could raise the alcohol level of the fuel
and cause your vehicle to crank, but not start; stall out; and/or run
rough. BMW has advised us that they will not warranty, or goodwill,
necessary repairs due to bad gas or high alcohol content in the fuel.

Some of the parts that could be damaged by poor fuel quality include
fuel pumps (high pressure pumps as well), fuel filter, injectors, etc.
The problems start because E10 is very effective solvent and it will
attack varnish, gum, and resins: the sludge that can build up in fuel
tanks. Once cleaned off the fuel tank walls, poor performance with
clogged filters and injectors is common. Also ethanol has a great
affinity for water, and will attract moisture from the atmosphere. Water
is heavier than gas so the water/ethanol molecule is dragged to the
bottom of the tank and separates from the more buoyant fuel molecules.
This is called phase separation. When this separation occurs you end up
with a corrosive water/ethanol layer on the bottom of the tank, under
what is now substandard fuel. Water displaces gasoline and then pits
and corrodes the metal surfaces causing premature wear on the fuel
pump. Water also reacts with various components in the fuel and forms
acids, which corrode the injector tips as well.

Water when sucked into an engine will shut it down. It must be cleaned,
and the oil changed. However, a water/ethanol mixture causes a more
serious problem, because instead of just shutting the engine down, the
mixture can be partially combusted, but not effectively, which can
damage the engine. Over a period of time this mixture will cause
excessive carbon deposits, which can wear on pistons and valves.

We recommend that only "top tier" fuels be used, and if necessary a
gasoline additive with "techron" be added, occasionally. If possible,
make sure you know your gasoline retailer and try to buy your gasoline
from the same location as often as possible. The best deal isn't always
the cheapest deal."

This is absurdity on its face. Almost all gasoline is delivered to
retail stations from tank farms, where everyone's product is pretty much
exactly this same, other than additives dumped in to raise octane.

You think "Shell" gasoline comes from Shell?

How are you supposed to know if you are buying "top tier" gasoline,
since what's in the tanks of the service stations could be almost
anything.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Almost all gasoline is delivered to
retail stations from tank farms, where everyone's product is pretty
much exactly this same,

Up here, it IS all the same.I know this for fact due to a close friend
who trucks gas.
I can see the flames coming now from the Dwarfs, doubting my validity
again, after the " Tall Ships " thread.

Your validity is always under suspicion, WAFA, but in this case you are
probably right.

Fuel Starvation?
 

Fuel Starvation?
 

"Larry" wrote in message
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wrote in news:a95aef68-934f-45d6-a27f-9b6dcc1a1a26
@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

Almost all gasoline is delivered to
retail stations from tank farms, where everyone's product is pretty
much exactly this same,

Up here, it IS all the same.I know this for fact due to a close friend
who trucks gas.
I can see the flames coming now from the Dwarfs, doubting my validity
again, after the " Tall Ships " thread.



If you wanna see the fanbois explode, start a thread asking them where the
Amsoil refinery is located....(c;

There isn't one. It comes from the same tankfarm Quaker State does....and
everyone else.



As for gasoline .... according to this chemist, it's all in the additives.
Furthermore, he points out that crude from which gasoline is refined varies,
even within a specific brand.

He has an interesting recommendation; change brands every 5000 miles or so
on a rotating basis to get the benefits of the different brand additives.

http://www.vettenet.org/octane.html

Eisboch

Fuel Starvation?
 

"Eisboch" wrote in
:

As for gasoline .... according to this chemist, it's all in the
additives. Furthermore, he points out that crude from which gasoline
is refined varies, even within a specific brand.


What "additives"? Who adds it after the trucker, who doesn't have any way
to add anything and doesn't carry anything to add it with, picks it up?
The marina doesn't add anything. I've watched 'em. They did add a stick
to see how deep it was in the tank. There wasn't anything on the stick
except some water detector paste on the bottom that turns color if there's
water in the tank.

The trucks that carry gas from the dump here to the stations varies. There
are a few trucks that LOOK like Exxon or Texaco with large signage on them
to that effect. There are hundreds of trucks that have no markings at all
because they belong to a couple of tankage companies who haul lots more
than gas, one about a mile from my home....

So, where is all this wonderful "additives", which must be a thousand
gallons in a 50,000 gallon underground tank, not some drop-in tablet that
would dilute the gas a billion to one, now?

Nonsense. Gas is gas and just like any other common commodity comes from
the LOWEST BIDDER, whoever has gas the cheapest, today, on the commodity
market. Notice what the brokers are selling! They sell GAS and DIESEL and
BUNKER C and LUBE OIL. There is no commodity named SUNOCO SUPER BLEND on
the commodity exchanges. It only exists in the consumer's mind......


...............just like AMSOIL!