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Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:36:10 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I would just like to be able to lay on metal, re-enforce frames, stick
steel to steel, etc... Aluminum and other alloy work I knew was a
little more complicated. Stick welding? Is that gas, like torches?

I took welding at the local community college. Learned I should hire
it done.

Casady


I learned how to fool around with welding equipment at my father's boat
shop. I learned how to weld for real in a union apprenticeship program.

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On Jun 11, 10:51*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:36:10 -0700, "Calif Bill"

wrote:
I would just like to be able to lay on metal, re-enforce frames, stick
steel to steel, etc... Aluminum and other alloy work I knew was a
little more complicated. Stick welding? Is that gas, like torches?

I took welding at the local community college. Learned I should hire
it done.

Casady

Well, I am not really looking to do anything structural. For instance
right now I have a hard tail atv to chase my kids through the woods.
There is one part of the brakes that is exposed and I bottomed out the
other day, cha, ching, $60. I would like to weld a small plate over
it, just to help protect it. Oh, and I would like to weld an eye on a
piece of metal so I can bolt it to my boat trailer to carry tools...
stuff like that.... Structural stuff, I will leave to the pros..

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:06:10 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:45:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:25:04 -0400, HK wrote:

If there is a worse place to be during hot weather than Atlanta, I
don't
know where it might be.
Third floor of the Woodstock Middle School yesterday at 11 AM.

Mrs. Wave told me it reached 106 degrees before they dismissed school.
Three kids in her home room passed out.
If you compare the temp along the east coast there is very little
difference in temp. If you want cool temp. you need to do what JohnH
did and go to Seattle.

Why would I want to go to Seattle for anything? The only thing
remotely interesting in Seattle is Starbucks and rain.

I didn't say anything about wanting to go to Seattle (and starbucks
sucks), I said if you wanted to get away from the heat, you need to go
to Seattle. It is HOT up and down the entire east coast.

IT is HOT, DAMN HOT.

My Tilley and Kool Tie, was actually very kewl.

I'm sure you looked very precious in your Tilley and Kool Tie.

Not to mention gay.

~~ did he just say what I thought I saw he said? ~~

YES HE DID!!! :)


~~ SNERK ~~
Tell it like it is!

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:25:04 -0400, HK wrote:

If there is a worse place to be during hot weather than Atlanta, I don't
know where it might be.

Third floor of the Woodstock Middle School yesterday at 11 AM.

Mrs. Wave told me it reached 106 degrees before they dismissed school.
Three kids in her home room passed out.

Happens when they are required to use their minds these days.

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On Jun 11, 10:41 am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:15:42 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
I used to have a Lincoln/Miller MIG machine that could use different
gases for shielding the electrode, but I sold it to a guy who does
farm equipment restoration. Still have a Lincoln AC/DC variable
output stick machine, but I havne't done any serious welding in years.

Love to weld things.

You should build a welded metal boat.

Casady

I have a great design for a 13 foot Whaler knock off that would
certainly lend itself to aluminum if he is interested in playing;)
Hey ShortPants... wanna' burn some stuff up? Of course with the cost
of aluminum now, I dunno if you want to just "play" around with it. I
have seen some pretty impressive aluminum boats though, and the money
you spend on material, could easily be saved on gas later with an
aluminum hull.

My welded boat is very nice. fuel consumption is sucky. But the boat
weighs 3400# and is V8 powered jet drive. If you go to
www,boatingsportsmand.com they have a boat building forum. Is a magazine
dedicated to aluminum boats. There are some kit aluminum boats available.
Nice way to go as the parts come already cut to fit.

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wrote in message
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On Jun 10, 2:54 pm, wrote:
On Jun 10, 1:53 pm, wrote:





On Jun 10, 1:10 pm, wrote:

On Jun 10, 11:44 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 10:42 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 10:29 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 8:50 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:58 am, wrote:

On Jun 9, 5:12 pm, wrote:

On Jun 9, 2:25 pm, wrote:

Hey, my daughter just called (I'm away from the house
for awhile) and
said a Rowdy Mouse T-shirt came! She really, really
likes it!! She's
very thankful to have it, so thanks, dude!

The mouse says "whatever..." ;)

So she asked if you owned a race car, told her it was MX
racing. Now,
here she is with both arms in casts up to her pits, and her
response
was, "can we go to Conn. to go MXing?!!! That's my girl!

Tell here, anytime.! But tell here I require full pads, even a
96
degrees like sunday afternoon.. It's not reaally that bad,
unless you
slow down;) And of course there are two websites she can visit
in the
meantime.

RowdyMouseRacing.com is where we have a couple of vids

Some pics here
http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/t...s.php?album=10

and this is one of the tracks we ride is

ctmotocross.com

Have fun, hurry up before we tear up all the equipment;)

She's got a lot of her dad in her, she loves speed. I've done my
share
of MXing, I had a Suzuki TM250 among others. Of course my first
was a
Honda Super 90, made for street but we used them in the woods.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, hurry up, the new brake hub will be here thursday.. man, If
it
ain't gas in the boat, it's parts on the bikes... yikes! Heeeeere
comes summer!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I like wrenching on them as much as running them. Same with cars.
When
we had old beater bikes for the woods, man did we cobble some stuff
up!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wrenching on these is the easy part. Finding parts that can be
modified to fit is another. We don't ride red, yellow, blue, green, or
$$orange$$, so parts require some r+d;) Actually the only new skill I
think I will require is welding, or just find a cheap local shop that
is willing to barter..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Stick welding is pretty easy to learn, but if you are going to weld
aluminum and such, things get harder! I grew up in the country on a
farm, so when things broke down you didn't take it to a shop, you
fixed it yourself. We had everything but a machine shop, so that's the
only outside sort of work we had anybody else do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would just like to be able to lay on metal, re-enforce frames, stick
steel to steel, etc... Aluminum and other alloy work I knew was a
little more complicated. Stick welding? Is that gas, like torches?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, arc welding. I like AC myself:

http://tinyurl.com/43pe42

Now my uncle the aviation machinist, was a gas welding god! He could
do anything with an acetylene torch set!

For great arc welding you need a DC machine. Much nicer welds. Better
selection of rods. Most AC machines use 6013 low hydrogen rod. I grew up
in a machine shop, so learned to arc weld before I was 10 years old. As
well as using milling machines, lathes, etc. So the people who taught me to
weld were extremely good welders. Most had learned the trade building
Liberty and Victory ships at the Richmond, CA Kaiser yards. Later in my
teenage years I met the inventor of Heliarc, Russell Meredith. He lived
near where I did and Linde Air had a junior engineer with him at all times
to write down any ideas he came up with.

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On Jun 11, 2:57*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jun 10, 2:54 pm, wrote:





On Jun 10, 1:53 pm, wrote:

On Jun 10, 1:10 pm, wrote:

On Jun 10, 11:44 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 10:42 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 10:29 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 8:50 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:58 am, wrote:

On Jun 9, 5:12 pm, wrote:

On Jun 9, 2:25 pm, wrote:

Hey, my daughter just called (I'm away from the house
for awhile) and
said a Rowdy Mouse T-shirt came! She really, really
likes it!! She's
very thankful to have it, so thanks, dude!

The mouse says "whatever..." ;)

So she asked if you owned a race car, told her it was MX
racing. Now,
here she is with both arms in casts up to her pits, and her
response
was, "can we go to Conn. to go MXing?!!! That's my girl!

Tell here, anytime.! But tell here I require full pads, even a
96
degrees like sunday afternoon.. It's not reaally that bad,
unless you
slow down;) And of course there are two websites she can visit
in the
meantime.

RowdyMouseRacing.com is where we have a couple of vids

Some pics here
http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/t...s.php?album=10

and this is one of the tracks we ride is

ctmotocross.com

Have fun, hurry up before we tear up all the equipment;)

She's got a lot of her dad in her, she loves speed. I've done my
share
of MXing, I had a Suzuki TM250 among others. Of course my first
was a
Honda Super 90, made for street but we used them in the woods.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, hurry up, the new brake hub will be here thursday.. man, If
it
ain't gas in the boat, it's parts on the bikes... yikes! Heeeeere
comes summer!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I like wrenching on them as much as running them. Same with cars.
When
we had old beater bikes for the woods, man did we cobble some stuff
up!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wrenching on these is the easy part. Finding parts that can be
modified to fit is another. We don't ride red, yellow, blue, green, or
$$orange$$, so parts require some r+d;) Actually the only new skill I
think I will require is welding, or just find a cheap local shop that
is willing to barter..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Stick welding is pretty easy to learn, but if you are going to weld
aluminum and such, things get harder! I grew up in the country on a
farm, so when things broke down you didn't take it to a shop, you
fixed it yourself. We had everything but a machine shop, so that's the
only outside sort of work we had anybody else do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would just like to be able to lay on metal, re-enforce frames, stick
steel to steel, etc... Aluminum and other alloy work I knew was a
little more complicated. Stick welding? Is that gas, like torches?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, arc welding. I like AC myself:

http://tinyurl.com/43pe42

Now my uncle the aviation machinist, was a gas welding god! He could
do anything with an acetylene torch set!

For great arc welding you need a DC machine. *Much nicer welds. *Better
selection of rods. *Most AC machines use 6013 low hydrogen rod. *I grew up
in a machine shop, so learned to arc weld before I was 10 years old. *As
well as using milling machines, lathes, etc. *So the people who taught me to
weld were extremely good welders. *Most had learned the trade building
Liberty and Victory ships at the Richmond, CA Kaiser yards. *Later in my
teenage years I met the inventor of Heliarc, Russell Meredith. *He lived
near where I did and Linde Air had a junior engineer with him at all times
to write down any ideas he came up with.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There's almost as much variety in rod for AC as there is for DC. I
learned to weld at about the same age as you!

AC welding is better at removing impurities and also deep penetration.

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wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 2:57 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jun 10, 2:54 pm, wrote:





On Jun 10, 1:53 pm, wrote:

On Jun 10, 1:10 pm, wrote:

On Jun 10, 11:44 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 10:42 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 10:29 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 8:50 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:58 am, wrote:

On Jun 9, 5:12 pm, wrote:

On Jun 9, 2:25 pm, wrote:

Hey, my daughter just called (I'm away from the house
for awhile) and
said a Rowdy Mouse T-shirt came! She really, really
likes it!! She's
very thankful to have it, so thanks, dude!

The mouse says "whatever..." ;)

So she asked if you owned a race car, told her it was MX
racing. Now,
here she is with both arms in casts up to her pits, and
her
response
was, "can we go to Conn. to go MXing?!!! That's my girl!

Tell here, anytime.! But tell here I require full pads, even
a
96
degrees like sunday afternoon.. It's not reaally that bad,
unless you
slow down;) And of course there are two websites she can
visit
in the
meantime.

RowdyMouseRacing.com is where we have a couple of vids

Some pics here
http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/t...s.php?album=10

and this is one of the tracks we ride is

ctmotocross.com

Have fun, hurry up before we tear up all the equipment;)

She's got a lot of her dad in her, she loves speed. I've done
my
share
of MXing, I had a Suzuki TM250 among others. Of course my
first
was a
Honda Super 90, made for street but we used them in the
woods.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, hurry up, the new brake hub will be here thursday.. man,
If
it
ain't gas in the boat, it's parts on the bikes... yikes!
Heeeeere
comes summer!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I like wrenching on them as much as running them. Same with cars.
When
we had old beater bikes for the woods, man did we cobble some
stuff
up!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wrenching on these is the easy part. Finding parts that can be
modified to fit is another. We don't ride red, yellow, blue, green,
or
$$orange$$, so parts require some r+d;) Actually the only new skill
I
think I will require is welding, or just find a cheap local shop
that
is willing to barter..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Stick welding is pretty easy to learn, but if you are going to weld
aluminum and such, things get harder! I grew up in the country on a
farm, so when things broke down you didn't take it to a shop, you
fixed it yourself. We had everything but a machine shop, so that's the
only outside sort of work we had anybody else do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would just like to be able to lay on metal, re-enforce frames, stick
steel to steel, etc... Aluminum and other alloy work I knew was a
little more complicated. Stick welding? Is that gas, like torches?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, arc welding. I like AC myself:

http://tinyurl.com/43pe42

Now my uncle the aviation machinist, was a gas welding god! He could
do anything with an acetylene torch set!

For great arc welding you need a DC machine. Much nicer welds. Better
selection of rods. Most AC machines use 6013 low hydrogen rod. I grew up
in a machine shop, so learned to arc weld before I was 10 years old. As
well as using milling machines, lathes, etc. So the people who taught me
to
weld were extremely good welders. Most had learned the trade building
Liberty and Victory ships at the Richmond, CA Kaiser yards. Later in my
teenage years I met the inventor of Heliarc, Russell Meredith. He lived
near where I did and Linde Air had a junior engineer with him at all times
to write down any ideas he came up with.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There's almost as much variety in rod for AC as there is for DC. I
learned to weld at about the same age as you!

AC welding is better at removing impurities and also deep penetration.

Then why are all the good commercial welders DC?

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On Jun 12, 2:07*am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jun 11, 2:57 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:





wrote in message

...
On Jun 10, 2:54 pm, wrote:

On Jun 10, 1:53 pm, wrote:

On Jun 10, 1:10 pm, wrote:

On Jun 10, 11:44 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 10:42 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 10:29 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 8:50 am, wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:58 am, wrote:

On Jun 9, 5:12 pm, wrote:

On Jun 9, 2:25 pm, wrote:

Hey, my daughter just called (I'm away from the house
for awhile) and
said a Rowdy Mouse T-shirt came! She really, really
likes it!! She's
very thankful to have it, so thanks, dude!

The mouse says "whatever..." ;)

So she asked if you owned a race car, told her it was MX
racing. Now,
here she is with both arms in casts up to her pits, and
her
response
was, "can we go to Conn. to go MXing?!!! That's my girl!

Tell here, anytime.! But tell here I require full pads, even
a
96
degrees like sunday afternoon.. It's not reaally that bad,
unless you
slow down;) And of course there are two websites she can
visit
in the
meantime.

RowdyMouseRacing.com is where we have a couple of vids

Some pics here
http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/t...s.php?album=10

and this is one of the tracks we ride is

ctmotocross.com

Have fun, hurry up before we tear up all the equipment;)

She's got a lot of her dad in her, she loves speed. I've done
my
share
of MXing, I had a Suzuki TM250 among others. Of course my
first
was a
Honda Super 90, made for street but we used them in the
woods.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, hurry up, the new brake hub will be here thursday.. man,
If
it
ain't gas in the boat, it's parts on the bikes... yikes!
Heeeeere
comes summer!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I like wrenching on them as much as running them. Same with cars..
When
we had old beater bikes for the woods, man did we cobble some
stuff
up!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wrenching on these is the easy part. Finding parts that can be
modified to fit is another. We don't ride red, yellow, blue, green,
or
$$orange$$, so parts require some r+d;) Actually the only new skill
I
think I will require is welding, or just find a cheap local shop
that
is willing to barter..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Stick welding is pretty easy to learn, but if you are going to weld
aluminum and such, things get harder! I grew up in the country on a
farm, so when things broke down you didn't take it to a shop, you
fixed it yourself. We had everything but a machine shop, so that's the
only outside sort of work we had anybody else do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would just like to be able to lay on metal, re-enforce frames, stick
steel to steel, etc... Aluminum and other alloy work I knew was a
little more complicated. Stick welding? Is that gas, like torches?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, arc welding. I like AC myself:

http://tinyurl.com/43pe42

Now my uncle the aviation machinist, was a gas welding god! He could
do anything with an acetylene torch set!

For great arc welding you need a DC machine. Much nicer welds. Better
selection of rods. Most AC machines use 6013 low hydrogen rod. I grew up
in a machine shop, so learned to arc weld before I was 10 years old. As
well as using milling machines, lathes, etc. So the people who taught me
to
weld were extremely good welders. Most had learned the trade building
Liberty and Victory ships at the Richmond, CA Kaiser yards. Later in my
teenage years I met the inventor of Heliarc, Russell Meredith. He lived
near where I did and Linde Air had a junior engineer with him at all times
to write down any ideas he came up with.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There's almost as much variety in rod for AC as there is for DC. I
learned to weld at about the same age as you!

AC welding is better at removing impurities and also deep penetration.

Then why are all the good commercial welders DC?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

They aren't.

He
http://www.aws.org/wj/2005/01/046/

And here is something about rods for both:
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/knowl...sification.asp