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[email protected] May 21st 08 07:10 PM

PING, justwait
 
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....

John H.[_4_] May 21st 08 07:19 PM

PING, justwait
 
On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*

[email protected] May 21st 08 07:30 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.

[email protected] May 21st 08 07:56 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:





On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.

My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.

Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn...." ;)

Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.

JimH[_2_] May 21st 08 07:59 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 2:10 pm, wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


Sorry to hear that. Hope she mends quickly so she can enjoy her
summer.


Calif Bill May 21st 08 08:00 PM

PING, justwait
 

wrote in message
...
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


Our condolences to your daughter. Alsways sucks to have a child injured.



[email protected] May 21st 08 08:12 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:





On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.

My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.

Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn...." ;)

Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.

[email protected] May 21st 08 08:17 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 3:12*pm, wrote:
The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


That's the best news of all. She must have been scared to death..

John H.[_4_] May 21st 08 08:37 PM

PING, justwait
 
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:





On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.

My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.

Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn...." ;)

Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


Thank God for that. Is she going to be in casts? If they start itching,
I've got some tips for you.
--
John *H*

[email protected] May 21st 08 08:54 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 3:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.


My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.


Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn...." ;)


Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


Thank God for that. Is she going to be in casts? If they start itching,
I've got some tips for you.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


She has these hard bandages on now, tight, because they had to do
surgery and insert pins. These are up to her pits, they don't want
anything but her fingers to move, and rotate her shoulders a few times
a day until two weeks is up. Then if all is well so far, they remove
the pins, and put on shorter casts to allow some more movement in her
elbows and fingers, but no wrist movement. At least then she'll be
able to get a drink and pee on her own! As it is now, the sweet soul
is helpless. It makes me so sad because she's such a vibrant person.
Anyway, that's the plan the doc has for now! He was pretty cool, he
told her he wanted her text messaging by next week!!! There goes my
Verizon bill!

Don White May 21st 08 09:03 PM

PING, justwait
 

wrote in message
...
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


Bad news.. I hope she recovers back to where she was.
I can still remember a bad break in my right arm 1979, when I went through
the windshield of an ambulance after a highway crash.
Talk about a nightmare!



[email protected] May 21st 08 09:12 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 4:03*pm, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

...

Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


Bad news.. I hope she recovers back to where she was.
I can still remember a bad break in my right arm 1979, when I went through
the windshield of an ambulance after a highway crash.
Talk about a nightmare!


I've had my share, and I'll tell you, being my little girl, if there
was any way in hell, I'd gladly take the hit for her. Thanks, Don.

John H.[_4_] May 21st 08 09:19 PM

PING, justwait
 
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 21, 3:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.


My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.


Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn...." ;)


Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


Thank God for that. Is she going to be in casts? If they start itching,
I've got some tips for you.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


She has these hard bandages on now, tight, because they had to do
surgery and insert pins. These are up to her pits, they don't want
anything but her fingers to move, and rotate her shoulders a few times
a day until two weeks is up. Then if all is well so far, they remove
the pins, and put on shorter casts to allow some more movement in her
elbows and fingers, but no wrist movement. At least then she'll be
able to get a drink and pee on her own! As it is now, the sweet soul
is helpless. It makes me so sad because she's such a vibrant person.
Anyway, that's the plan the doc has for now! He was pretty cool, he
told her he wanted her text messaging by next week!!! There goes my
Verizon bill!


When they go to the shorter casts, ask them to put a piece of ace bandage
under the cast along the arm so that about six inches sticks out each end.
When, and if, the arm starts itching under the cast she can pull the ace
bandage back and forth to scratch it.

Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.
--
John *H*

[email protected] May 21st 08 09:51 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 4:19*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 3:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did.. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.


My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.


Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn...." ;)


Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


Thank God for that. Is she going to be in casts? If they start itching,
I've got some tips for you.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She has these hard bandages on now, tight, because they had to do
surgery and insert pins. These are up to her pits, they don't want
anything but her fingers to move, and rotate her shoulders a few times
a day until two weeks is up. Then if all is well so far, they remove
the pins, and put on shorter casts to allow some more movement in her
elbows and fingers, but no wrist movement. At least then she'll be
able to get a drink and pee on her own! As it is now, the sweet soul
is helpless. It makes me so sad because she's such a vibrant person.
Anyway, that's the plan the doc has for now! He was pretty cool, he
told her he wanted her text messaging by next week!!! There goes my
Verizon bill!


When they go to the shorter casts, ask them to put a piece of ace bandage
under the cast along the arm so that about six inches sticks out each end.
When, and if, the arm starts itching under the cast she can pull the ace
bandage back and forth to scratch it.

Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The air compressor sounds good! I broke one small bone in my hand and
because of what bone it was, I was in a cast up to way past my elbow
for months. They've come along way with the technology now! I lived in
Florida and every time they took the cast off to redo it, man it stunk
in there! I was going fishing and stuff, sweating in the Florida sun
and I funked that thing up good!!!

[email protected] May 21st 08 09:54 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 4:51*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 4:19*pm, John H. wrote:





On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 3:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.


My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.


Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn...." ;)


Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


Thank God for that. Is she going to be in casts? If they start itching,
I've got some tips for you.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She has these hard bandages on now, tight, because they had to do
surgery and insert pins. These are up to her pits, they don't want
anything but her fingers to move, and rotate her shoulders a few times
a day until two weeks is up. Then if all is well so far, they remove
the pins, and put on shorter casts to allow some more movement in her
elbows and fingers, but no wrist movement. At least then she'll be
able to get a drink and pee on her own! As it is now, the sweet soul
is helpless. It makes me so sad because she's such a vibrant person.
Anyway, that's the plan the doc has for now! He was pretty cool, he
told her he wanted her text messaging by next week!!! There goes my
Verizon bill!


When they go to the shorter casts, ask them to put a piece of ace bandage
under the cast along the arm so that about six inches sticks out each end.
When, and if, the arm starts itching under the cast she can pull the ace
bandage back and forth to scratch it.


Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The air compressor sounds good! I broke one small bone in my hand and
because of what bone it was, I was in a cast up to way past my elbow
for months. They've come along way with the technology now! I lived in
Florida and every time they took the cast off to redo it, man it stunk
in there! I was going fishing and stuff, sweating in the Florida sun
and I funked that thing up good!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Does she know what happened, did she hit the bars?

[email protected] May 21st 08 10:30 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 4:54*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 4:51*pm, wrote:





On May 21, 4:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 3:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins.. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.


My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.


Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn...." ;)


Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


Thank God for that. Is she going to be in casts? If they start itching,
I've got some tips for you.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She has these hard bandages on now, tight, because they had to do
surgery and insert pins. These are up to her pits, they don't want
anything but her fingers to move, and rotate her shoulders a few times
a day until two weeks is up. Then if all is well so far, they remove
the pins, and put on shorter casts to allow some more movement in her
elbows and fingers, but no wrist movement. At least then she'll be
able to get a drink and pee on her own! As it is now, the sweet soul
is helpless. It makes me so sad because she's such a vibrant person.
Anyway, that's the plan the doc has for now! He was pretty cool, he
told her he wanted her text messaging by next week!!! There goes my
Verizon bill!


When they go to the shorter casts, ask them to put a piece of ace bandage
under the cast along the arm so that about six inches sticks out each end.
When, and if, the arm starts itching under the cast she can pull the ace
bandage back and forth to scratch it.


Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The air compressor sounds good! I broke one small bone in my hand and
because of what bone it was, I was in a cast up to way past my elbow
for months. They've come along way with the technology now! I lived in
Florida and every time they took the cast off to redo it, man it stunk
in there! I was going fishing and stuff, sweating in the Florida sun
and I funked that thing up good!!!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Does she know what happened, did she hit the bars?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


She was trying to get stopped going downhill, rear brakes faded and
she got on the fronts too hard. All was well, she hit a dip and
flipped, and instinctively put down her hands. The bike was at least
twenty feet from where it flipped, even knocked both of her shoes
off.


[email protected] May 21st 08 10:42 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 5:30*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 4:54*pm, wrote:





On May 21, 4:51*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 3:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.


My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.


Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn...." ;)


Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


Thank God for that. Is she going to be in casts? If they start itching,
I've got some tips for you.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She has these hard bandages on now, tight, because they had to do
surgery and insert pins. These are up to her pits, they don't want
anything but her fingers to move, and rotate her shoulders a few times
a day until two weeks is up. Then if all is well so far, they remove
the pins, and put on shorter casts to allow some more movement in her
elbows and fingers, but no wrist movement. At least then she'll be
able to get a drink and pee on her own! As it is now, the sweet soul
is helpless. It makes me so sad because she's such a vibrant person..
Anyway, that's the plan the doc has for now! He was pretty cool, he
told her he wanted her text messaging by next week!!! There goes my
Verizon bill!


When they go to the shorter casts, ask them to put a piece of ace bandage
under the cast along the arm so that about six inches sticks out each end.
When, and if, the arm starts itching under the cast she can pull the ace
bandage back and forth to scratch it.


Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The air compressor sounds good! I broke one small bone in my hand and
because of what bone it was, I was in a cast up to way past my elbow
for months. They've come along way with the technology now! I lived in
Florida and every time they took the cast off to redo it, man it stunk
in there! I was going fishing and stuff, sweating in the Florida sun
and I funked that thing up good!!!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Does she know what happened, did she hit the bars?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She was trying to get stopped going downhill, rear brakes faded and
she got on the fronts too hard. All was well, she hit a dip and
flipped, and instinctively put down her hands. The bike was at least
twenty feet from where it flipped, even knocked both of her shoes
off.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yup, over the bars, that's the worst. She may have earned a shirt,
these kids are pretty tough after all;) Fwiw, the instructor at the
barn teaches you how to hit the ground rolling if you come over the
top of the horse.. Maybe some judo or tumbling would be good for these
kids who ride.. hummmm.


[email protected] May 21st 08 11:16 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 5:42*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 5:30*pm, wrote:





On May 21, 4:54*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:51*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 3:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts.. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.


My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.


Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn...." ;)


Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


Thank God for that. Is she going to be in casts? If they start itching,
I've got some tips for you.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She has these hard bandages on now, tight, because they had to do
surgery and insert pins. These are up to her pits, they don't want
anything but her fingers to move, and rotate her shoulders a few times
a day until two weeks is up. Then if all is well so far, they remove
the pins, and put on shorter casts to allow some more movement in her
elbows and fingers, but no wrist movement. At least then she'll be
able to get a drink and pee on her own! As it is now, the sweet soul
is helpless. It makes me so sad because she's such a vibrant person.
Anyway, that's the plan the doc has for now! He was pretty cool, he
told her he wanted her text messaging by next week!!! There goes my
Verizon bill!


When they go to the shorter casts, ask them to put a piece of ace bandage
under the cast along the arm so that about six inches sticks out each end.
When, and if, the arm starts itching under the cast she can pull the ace
bandage back and forth to scratch it.


Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The air compressor sounds good! I broke one small bone in my hand and
because of what bone it was, I was in a cast up to way past my elbow
for months. They've come along way with the technology now! I lived in
Florida and every time they took the cast off to redo it, man it stunk
in there! I was going fishing and stuff, sweating in the Florida sun
and I funked that thing up good!!!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Does she know what happened, did she hit the bars?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She was trying to get stopped going downhill, rear brakes faded and
she got on the fronts too hard. All was well, she hit a dip and
flipped, and instinctively put down her hands. The bike was at least
twenty feet from where it flipped, even knocked both of her shoes
off.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yup, over the bars, that's the worst. She may have earned a shirt,
these kids are pretty tough after all;) *Fwiw, the instructor at the
barn teaches you how to hit the ground rolling if you come over the
top of the horse.. Maybe some judo or tumbling would be good for these
kids who ride.. hummmm.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


She's a third degree brown in Kenpo karate, one of my students is her
instructor. I teach her textbook stuff, but I'm not good at teaching
her real combat situations cause I'm her dad!!! Instinct took over. If
you see where she biffed it, she at one time before re-learning that
gravity sucks would have been oh, a good six or seven feet in the air!
You have a very good point in teaching rolling exercises. hummmmm.....
I STILL want to know how that little girl got back up. She doesn't
remember. I mean her hands were dangling from her arms, useless. I
think for a lady, she's going to have quite a set if you get my drift,
and of that, I'll be proud!~ Sorry about going on and on about this,
but it really bothered me. For one of the very few times in my life I
felt useless. I so much wanted the pain to go away, as well as her
fear. I'll never forget when in the OR they went to xray her, and I
had to step out of the tiny room and she wailed "daddy, don't leave
me".......

[email protected] May 21st 08 11:33 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 6:16*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 5:42*pm, wrote:





On May 21, 5:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:54*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:51*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 3:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.


My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.


Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn....." ;)


Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


Thank God for that. Is she going to be in casts? If they start itching,
I've got some tips for you.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She has these hard bandages on now, tight, because they had to do
surgery and insert pins. These are up to her pits, they don't want
anything but her fingers to move, and rotate her shoulders a few times
a day until two weeks is up. Then if all is well so far, they remove
the pins, and put on shorter casts to allow some more movement in her
elbows and fingers, but no wrist movement. At least then she'll be
able to get a drink and pee on her own! As it is now, the sweet soul
is helpless. It makes me so sad because she's such a vibrant person.
Anyway, that's the plan the doc has for now! He was pretty cool, he
told her he wanted her text messaging by next week!!! There goes my
Verizon bill!


When they go to the shorter casts, ask them to put a piece of ace bandage
under the cast along the arm so that about six inches sticks out each end.
When, and if, the arm starts itching under the cast she can pull the ace
bandage back and forth to scratch it.


Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The air compressor sounds good! I broke one small bone in my hand and
because of what bone it was, I was in a cast up to way past my elbow
for months. They've come along way with the technology now! I lived in
Florida and every time they took the cast off to redo it, man it stunk
in there! I was going fishing and stuff, sweating in the Florida sun
and I funked that thing up good!!!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Does she know what happened, did she hit the bars?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She was trying to get stopped going downhill, rear brakes faded and
she got on the fronts too hard. All was well, she hit a dip and
flipped, and instinctively put down her hands. The bike was at least
twenty feet from where it flipped, even knocked both of her shoes
off.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yup, over the bars, that's the worst. She may have earned a shirt,
these kids are pretty tough after all;) *Fwiw, the instructor at the
barn teaches you how to hit the ground rolling if you come over the
top of the horse.. Maybe some judo or tumbling would be good for these
kids who ride.. hummmm.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She's a third degree brown in Kenpo karate, one of my students is her
instructor. I teach her textbook stuff, but I'm not good at teaching
her real combat situations cause I'm her dad!!! Instinct took over. If
you see where she biffed it, she at one time before re-learning that
gravity sucks would have been oh, a good six or seven feet in the air!
You have a very good point in teaching rolling exercises. hummmmm.....
I STILL want to know how that little girl got back up. She doesn't
remember. I mean her hands were dangling from her arms, useless. I
think for a lady, she's going to have quite a set if you get my drift,
and of that, I'll be proud!~ Sorry about going on and on about this,
but it really bothered me. For one of the very few times in my life I
felt useless. I so much wanted the pain to go away, as well as her
fear. I'll never forget when in the OR they went to xray her, and I
had to step out of the tiny room and she wailed "daddy, don't leave
me".......- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, should have figured you trained her.. but even the best training
can go to hell when you are all of a sudden not on your feet anymore
and the ground is coming in real fast;)

HK May 21st 08 11:42 PM

PING, justwait
 
wrote:
On May 21, 6:16 pm, wrote:
On May 21, 5:42 pm, wrote:



I
think for a lady, she's going to have quite a set if you get my drift,
and of that, I'll be proud!~




Holy schnitt! :(

[email protected] May 22nd 08 12:27 AM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 6:16*pm, wrote:
I
think for a lady, she's going to have quite a set if you get my drift,
and of that, I'll be proud!~


Yeah, these kids are awesome tough when they need to be. My girl has a
shirt that says "you wish you could play like a girl". And they mean
it. I think your kid has earned a Rowdy Mouse shirt, (if she would
wear it) email me a size and addy. Don't try to give me your size
either and steal it from her, it will be pink and black, soooooo,
fergitaboutit).. You mr. picker can buy one at a substantial discount
when we go world wide and the Chinese start knocking them off;)

you know my email...

[email protected] May 22nd 08 01:30 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 10:07*pm, JG2U wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:19:47 -0400, John H.

wrote:
Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.


Just be aware that air can damage you as well. *If you decide to do
this, use low air pressure (10-20 psi) and a safety nozzle. *It is
possible, and actually pretty easy, to blow high pressure air under
the skin. *You definitely do *not* want to do that. *It will ruin your
day.


It's all coming back now! We had a full shop when I was a kid and my
brother took a nozzle and put it up to my neck to scare me. He let
that thing go and it tore my skin, then blew air inflating a space a
little larger than a marble. What happened is it seperated the skin
from the meat and man, did that hurt! That turned into the biggest
meanest looking blodd blister you ever saw!

[email protected] May 22nd 08 01:30 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 10:03*pm, JG2U wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way


Sorry to hear that, Loogy. *Best wishes to her for a quick recovery.


Thanks, man.....

[email protected] May 22nd 08 01:33 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 7:27*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 6:16*pm, wrote:
*I

think for a lady, she's going to have quite a set if you get my drift,
and of that, I'll be proud!~


Yeah, these kids are awesome tough when they need to be. My girl has a
shirt that says "you wish you could play like a girl". And they mean
it. I think your kid has earned a Rowdy Mouse shirt, (if she would
wear it) email me a size and addy. Don't try to give me your size
either and steal it from her, it will be pink and black, soooooo,
fergitaboutit).. You mr. picker can buy one at a substantial discount
when we go world wide and the Chinese start knocking them off;)

you know my email...


Damn it, my plan is foiled again! I'll email you when I get a shot! I
really like the rowdy mouse logo, you done a fine job on that! One of
my neighbors brought her over a basket of stuff that she can enjoy
while laying about, a Blockbuster gift card, popcorn, etc. She was
really fond of the chocolate covered cookie dough dots!!! It may have
had something to do with the narcotics!

[email protected] May 22nd 08 01:41 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 21, 6:33*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 6:16*pm, wrote:





On May 21, 5:42*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 5:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:54*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:51*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 3:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 21, 2:56*pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30*pm, wrote:


On May 21, 2:19*pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Yesterday my 13 year old daughter, the greatest thing in my life, took
a spill over the handlebars of her mountain bike. I was on my way
home, call from the neighbor, "looks like she broke her wrist". I get
there, both arms, hands are dangling uselessly, little girl in shock,
but also in pain, get her to ER. She broke BOTH bones in BOTH arms
just above the wrist bad enough to require surgery and pins. Seeing
her in that shape on the way to ER hurt my heart and soul more than
most can imagine. Except for those that are as close to a daughter as
I am her. I'm sad..... She's home today, quite the trooper. No arm
movement for two weeks, then pins out and shorter casts. So much for
our poolside and lakeside summer. I'm sad.....


That sucks, big time. Sorrry to hear about it.
--
John *H*


Thanks. The orthopedic surgeon says the surgery and lining up and pins
went very well, the right arm fractured ulna just came through the
skin. I don't know how she got up, she doesn't either. But she did. No
one was home, my neighbor and good friend heard her scream, as she was
walking toward their house for help.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Wow, that shakes me to the core.. you hate to hear stories like that,
makes you wonder if it is "responsible" to let kids be kids. Hopefully
the wounds are only physical, that sounds like quite a shock for the
kid. I do know that me and my kid have a deal now, no one rides
anything without eyes on (someone on scene). I can't imagine the
picture you must have in your head of your kid coming up through the
back yard and you not there. I know I still have flashbacks of coming
around the house and seeing my kid on the ground crying.


My kid is back and riding again, but with a whole new respect for the
machine and her own ability. On the other hand simple crashes and
restarts are only noticed when a part breaks;) On the other hand, my
girl learned how to replace a broken clutch lever housing right down
to going to the parts counter and ordering the parts. *This generation
is empowered and competitive, I think it's just awesome.


Wish her luck, don't let her ride alone again and the hardest thing of
all is evey time they step on the bike it''s full gear, or no ride at
all... I have to fight that one every day.. "The goggles are killing
me, can I do a couple of laps without them?". "The neck brace makes it
hard to see....". My answer is usually something like, "no, you can't
take them off, and you missed the line in that last turn....." ;)


Good luck to her, give her a hug and lot's of support...I know you
will.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I will never, ever in my life forget the scene when I pulled up in my
truck. This gutteral primevil moan/cry, her helmet askew (still got a
gash over her eye). I don't know how she got up, and she doesn't
remember, either. Her hands were clenched this strange way, I'd guess
because the nerves were pulling, the only thing besides skin attaching
her wrists to her arms. The hospital is only three minutes away when
dad's scared ****less, about half way there she said "my hands are
going numb". The doc says no lasting damage.


Thank God for that. Is she going to be in casts? If they start itching,
I've got some tips for you.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She has these hard bandages on now, tight, because they had to do
surgery and insert pins. These are up to her pits, they don't want
anything but her fingers to move, and rotate her shoulders a few times
a day until two weeks is up. Then if all is well so far, they remove
the pins, and put on shorter casts to allow some more movement in her
elbows and fingers, but no wrist movement. At least then she'll be
able to get a drink and pee on her own! As it is now, the sweet soul
is helpless. It makes me so sad because she's such a vibrant person.
Anyway, that's the plan the doc has for now! He was pretty cool, he
told her he wanted her text messaging by next week!!! There goes my
Verizon bill!


When they go to the shorter casts, ask them to put a piece of ace bandage
under the cast along the arm so that about six inches sticks out each end.
When, and if, the arm starts itching under the cast she can pull the ace
bandage back and forth to scratch it.


Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.
--
John *H*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The air compressor sounds good! I broke one small bone in my hand and
because of what bone it was, I was in a cast up to way past my elbow
for months. They've come along way with the technology now! I lived in
Florida and every time they took the cast off to redo it, man it stunk
in there! I was going fishing and stuff, sweating in the Florida sun
and I funked that thing up good!!!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Does she know what happened, did she hit the bars?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She was trying to get stopped going downhill, rear brakes faded and
she got on the fronts too hard. All was well, she hit a dip and
flipped, and instinctively put down her hands. The bike was at least
twenty feet from where it flipped, even knocked both of her shoes
off.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yup, over the bars, that's the worst. She may have earned a shirt,
these kids are pretty tough after all;) *Fwiw, the instructor at the
barn teaches you how to hit the ground rolling if you come over the
top of the horse.. Maybe some judo or tumbling would be good for these
kids who ride.. hummmm.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


She's a third degree brown in Kenpo karate, one of my students is her
instructor. I teach her textbook stuff, but I'm not good at teaching
her real combat situations cause I'm her dad!!! Instinct took over. If
you see where she biffed it, she at one time before re-learning that
gravity sucks would have been oh, a good six or seven feet in the air!
You have a very good point in teaching rolling exercises. hummmmm.....
I STILL want to know how that little girl got back up. She doesn't
remember. I mean her hands were dangling from her arms, useless. I
think for a lady, she's going to have quite a set if you get my drift,
and of that, I'll be proud!~ Sorry about going on and on about this,
but it really bothered me. For one of the very few times in my life I
felt useless. I so much wanted the pain to go away, as well as her
fear. I'll never forget when in the OR they went to xray her, and I
had to step out of the tiny room and she wailed "daddy, don't leave
me".......- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yeah, should have figured you trained her.. but even the best training
can go to hell when you are all of a sudden not on your feet anymore
and the ground is coming in real fast;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yep that's the ticket. I've trained and trained and trained kids,
watched them come up the ranks, awesome technique. That all goes out
the window if you panic, or adrenaline takes over.

Jim May 22nd 08 03:50 PM

PING, justwait
 

wrote in message
...
On May 21, 6:33 pm, wrote:
On May 21, 6:16 pm, wrote:





On May 21, 5:42 pm, wrote:


On May 21, 5:30 pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:54 pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:51 pm, wrote:


On May 21, 4:19 pm, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On May 21, 3:37 pm, John H.
wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On May 21, 2:56 pm, wrote:
On May 21, 2:30 pm, wrote:


On May 21, 2:19 pm, John H.
wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:



This thread is getting hard to follow. Which of the preceding 252 lines of
text were you responding to?


[email protected] May 22nd 08 03:55 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 22, 10:50*am, "Jim" wrote:


This thread is getting hard to follow. Which of the preceding 252 lines of
text were you responding to?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think I edited a lot out of my last response. I guess we should
clip more here and there, noted...

Jim May 22nd 08 04:06 PM

PING, justwait
 

wrote in message
...
On May 22, 10:50 am, "Jim" wrote:


This thread is getting hard to follow. Which of the preceding 252 lines of
text were you responding to?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think I edited a lot out of my last response. I guess we should
clip more here and there, noted...

It is especially important to edit out the two dung beetles and their source
of nourishment.


[email protected] May 22nd 08 04:10 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 22, 11:06*am, "Jim" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On May 22, 10:50 am, "Jim" wrote:



This thread is getting hard to follow. Which of the preceding 252 lines of
text were you responding to?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think I edited a lot out of my last response. *I guess we should
clip more here and there, noted...

It is especially important to edit out the two dung beetles and their source
of nourishment.


;) gotca'

Jim May 22nd 08 06:22 PM

PING, justwait
 

wrote in message
...
On May 22, 11:06 am, "Jim" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On May 22, 10:50 am, "Jim" wrote:

;) gotca'

To you and the rest of the guys, Have a fun, safe weekend and I hope
loogie's kid recovers with no residual damage. I'll be busy reloading and
tweaking my camper which just got back from the factory.


John H.[_4_] May 22nd 08 07:13 PM

PING, justwait
 
On Thu, 22 May 2008 13:22:40 -0400, "Jim" wrote:


wrote in message
...
On May 22, 11:06 am, "Jim" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On May 22, 10:50 am, "Jim" wrote:

;) gotca'

To you and the rest of the guys, Have a fun, safe weekend and I hope
loogie's kid recovers with no residual damage. I'll be busy reloading and
tweaking my camper which just got back from the factory.


What kind of camper?
--
John *H*

HK May 22nd 08 07:14 PM

PING, justwait
 
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2008 13:22:40 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

wrote in message
...
On May 22, 11:06 am, "Jim" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On May 22, 10:50 am, "Jim" wrote:

;) gotca'

To you and the rest of the guys, Have a fun, safe weekend and I hope
loogie's kid recovers with no residual damage. I'll be busy reloading and
tweaking my camper which just got back from the factory.


What kind of camper?




The kind you load onto a boat, or is this new rec.campers?

Don White May 22nd 08 07:37 PM

PING, justwait
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2008 13:22:40 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

wrote in message
...
On May 22, 11:06 am, "Jim" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On May 22, 10:50 am, "Jim" wrote:
;) gotca'

To you and the rest of the guys, Have a fun, safe weekend and I hope
loogie's kid recovers with no residual damage. I'll be busy reloading
and tweaking my camper which just got back from the factory.


What kind of camper?




The kind you load onto a boat, or is this new rec.campers?



I think we came back just in time. What with JohnH blowing kisses to Bert
and Flatulent Jim in a tizzy over his hardtop camper........ who knows where
this group was heading.



Jim May 22nd 08 07:50 PM

PING, justwait
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

I think we came back just in time. What with JohnH blowing kisses to Bert
and Flatulent Jim in a tizzy over his hardtop camper........ who knows
where this group was heading.

Just in time for what, dung beetle?


John H.[_4_] May 22nd 08 08:00 PM

PING, justwait
 
On Thu, 22 May 2008 14:50:29 -0400, "Jim" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
.. .

I think we came back just in time. What with JohnH blowing kisses to Bert
and Flatulent Jim in a tizzy over his hardtop camper........ who knows
where this group was heading.

Just in time for what, dung beetle?


Jim, please stop.
--
John *H*

Jim May 22nd 08 08:09 PM

PING, justwait
 

"John H." wrote in message
...

Jim, please stop.
--

Sorry,
My bad.


[email protected] May 22nd 08 08:20 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 22, 8:30*am, wrote:
On May 21, 10:07*pm, JG2U wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:19:47 -0400, John H.


wrote:
Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.


Just be aware that air can damage you as well. *If you decide to do
this, use low air pressure (10-20 psi) and a safety nozzle. *It is
possible, and actually pretty easy, to blow high pressure air under
the skin. *You definitely do *not* want to do that. *It will ruin your
day.


It's all coming back now! We had a full shop when I was a kid and my
brother took a nozzle and put it up to my neck to scare me. He let
that thing go and it tore my skin, then blew air inflating a space a
little larger than a marble. What happened is it seperated the skin
from the meat and man, did that hurt! That turned into the biggest
meanest looking blodd blister you ever saw!


And if that had been close to a blood vessel you could have ended up
with an air embolism and dead. Compressed air is not a toy.

HK May 22nd 08 08:46 PM

PING, justwait
 
Jim wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

I think we came back just in time. What with JohnH blowing kisses to
Bert and Flatulent Jim in a tizzy over his hardtop camper........ who
knows where this group was heading.

Just in time for what, dung beetle?




Oooooh....such class.

[email protected] May 22nd 08 09:14 PM

PING, justwait
 
On May 22, 3:20*pm, wrote:
On May 22, 8:30*am, wrote:





On May 21, 10:07*pm, JG2U wrote:


On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:19:47 -0400, John H.


wrote:
Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.


Just be aware that air can damage you as well. *If you decide to do
this, use low air pressure (10-20 psi) and a safety nozzle. *It is
possible, and actually pretty easy, to blow high pressure air under
the skin. *You definitely do *not* want to do that. *It will ruin your
day.


It's all coming back now! We had a full shop when I was a kid and my
brother took a nozzle and put it up to my neck to scare me. He let
that thing go and it tore my skin, then blew air inflating a space a
little larger than a marble. What happened is it seperated the skin
from the meat and man, did that hurt! That turned into the biggest
meanest looking blodd blister you ever saw!


And if that had been close to a blood vessel you could have ended up
with an air embolism and dead. *Compressed air is not a toy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not to one up, but I hear getting cut with an airless paint sprayer is
wicked nasty too.. But that whole bubble thing with Loog is still in
my head too...

HK May 22nd 08 09:14 PM

PING, justwait
 
wrote:
On May 22, 3:20 pm, wrote:
On May 22, 8:30 am, wrote:





On May 21, 10:07 pm, JG2U wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:19:47 -0400, John H.
wrote:
Another thing that works well is to use your air compressor to blow air
down the cast. Whatever you do, don't put powder down there! And, don't let
her try to scratch with a coat hanger. That's a good way to get an
infection and lose an arm.
Just be aware that air can damage you as well. If you decide to do
this, use low air pressure (10-20 psi) and a safety nozzle. It is
possible, and actually pretty easy, to blow high pressure air under
the skin. You definitely do *not* want to do that. It will ruin your
day.
It's all coming back now! We had a full shop when I was a kid and my
brother took a nozzle and put it up to my neck to scare me. He let
that thing go and it tore my skin, then blew air inflating a space a
little larger than a marble. What happened is it seperated the skin
from the meat and man, did that hurt! That turned into the biggest
meanest looking blodd blister you ever saw!

And if that had been close to a blood vessel you could have ended up
with an air embolism and dead. Compressed air is not a toy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not to one up, but I hear getting cut with an airless paint sprayer is
wicked nasty too.. But that whole bubble thing with Loog is still in
my head too...



rec.amateur.medicine


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