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"HK" wrote in message . .. Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: I was discussing "policy," crap-for-brains. Because of the similarities in policy between Bush and McCain, McCain is being referred to as McBush. Why don't you crawl back up your ass, where you belong, and go off and haunt some newsgroup where full-time snarkiness is appreciated? Your reply is not conducive to reasonable discourse. I thought you believed in reasonable discourse, and preferred a NG without flames, where discussion could be civil. Even if you disagreed with my post, it definitely was reasonable discourse and was not a flame. Go pee up a rope, Reggie. Your years of crappy behavior here disqualify you from participating in "reasonable discourse." Is that the best a Yale graduate can do? Did you and GWB attend the same communications classes? "reggie," aka crap-for-brains, gets the treatment from me he deserves, as do you, cyst-breath. If you don't like it, you are welcome to come up here and try to punch me in the nose. Another juvenile remark from a supposed Yale attendee. Grow up Harry. Set an example that you would like the rest of us to emulate. GPUAR, pus-breath. Another fine indicator of your maturity, Harry. I learned it from your posts here of the last few months, pus-breath. I've had enough of this childishness. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: I was discussing "policy," crap-for-brains. Because of the similarities in policy between Bush and McCain, McCain is being referred to as McBush. Why don't you crawl back up your ass, where you belong, and go off and haunt some newsgroup where full-time snarkiness is appreciated? Your reply is not conducive to reasonable discourse. I thought you believed in reasonable discourse, and preferred a NG without flames, where discussion could be civil. Even if you disagreed with my post, it definitely was reasonable discourse and was not a flame. Go pee up a rope, Reggie. Your years of crappy behavior here disqualify you from participating in "reasonable discourse." Is that the best a Yale graduate can do? Did you and GWB attend the same communications classes? "reggie," aka crap-for-brains, gets the treatment from me he deserves, as do you, cyst-breath. If you don't like it, you are welcome to come up here and try to punch me in the nose. Fla Jim is a lot more cocky lately now that he has one acknowledged 'friend'. |
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Jim wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: I was discussing "policy," crap-for-brains. Because of the similarities in policy between Bush and McCain, McCain is being referred to as McBush. Why don't you crawl back up your ass, where you belong, and go off and haunt some newsgroup where full-time snarkiness is appreciated? Your reply is not conducive to reasonable discourse. I thought you believed in reasonable discourse, and preferred a NG without flames, where discussion could be civil. Even if you disagreed with my post, it definitely was reasonable discourse and was not a flame. Go pee up a rope, Reggie. Your years of crappy behavior here disqualify you from participating in "reasonable discourse." Is that the best a Yale graduate can do? Did you and GWB attend the same communications classes? "reggie," aka crap-for-brains, gets the treatment from me he deserves, as do you, cyst-breath. If you don't like it, you are welcome to come up here and try to punch me in the nose. Another juvenile remark from a supposed Yale attendee. Grow up Harry. Set an example that you would like the rest of us to emulate. GPUAR, pus-breath. Another fine indicator of your maturity, Harry. I learned it from your posts here of the last few months, pus-breath. I've had enough of this childishness. Ahhh...going back to your former style of childishness? |
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On Apr 24, 8:57*am, wrote:
On Apr 24, 2:16*am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... *Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. *If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week. |
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On Apr 23, 8:08*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... *Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, then we can really enjoy the "Pelosi Premium" on gas.. maybe we can get it up to 10 bucks a gallon;) |
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On Apr 24, 11:28*am, wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:57*am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16*am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... *Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. *If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have? |
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On Apr 24, 2:37*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic.... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. *Is a supposedly modern city in America. *Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year. |
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On Apr 25, 10:21*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date. |
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On Apr 25, 12:31*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message .... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? *I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. *That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where did I say or imply that it was 2008? 2008 isn't over with yet. Now, back to the intent: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. |
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On Apr 25, 12:31*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message .... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? *I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. *That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where did I say or imply that it was 2008? 2008 isn't over with yet. Now, back to the intent: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. =========================================== Do you even bother to read and comprehend the posts you reply to? What do you think my reply, "Did *I* write that?", meant in response to your query: And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? When you post facts here for consideration, the date of the information would be most helpful. |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it. |
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JimH wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it. D...........you are trying to debate with a brick wall. ;-) As a longtime friend of honest, hardworking and skilled bricklayers, I resent that remark. It takes a lot of skill and effort to build a proper brick wall. Debating Loogy is more like debating a soggy egg noodle. :) |
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HK wrote:
I was discussing "policy," crap-for-brains. Because of the similarities in policy between Bush and McCain, McCain is being referred to as McBush. That's very grown up of you Krause, to use 3rd grade word constructs. Why don't you crawl back up your ass, where you belong, and go off and haunt some newsgroup where full-time snarkiness is appreciated? Pot, kettle, black. |
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Go pee up a rope, Reggie. Your years of crappy behavior here disqualify you from participating in "reasonable discourse." Priceless comment Krause. |
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On Apr 25, 8:48*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. Big difference is whether you're volunteering to be shot at. In '68 I was running a tractor shoe press in at IH in Chicago. My quencher was a south side black guy who had done a couple tours in Viet Nam. *I was south side too but didn't travel in his circles. Shortly after meeting him I noticed a nasty bullet scar on his arm and asked if he was wounded in Viet Nam. His answer was succinct. * "No. *63rd and State Street." --Vic No, most of the deaths in Iraq aren't people who have volunteered, they are innocent victims. |
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On Apr 25, 5:00*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message .... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com.... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives... Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hehttp://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You were in agreement with those who have stated in this thread that Chicago is akin to Iraq in numbers of deaths from the hand of others. |
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On Apr 25, 5:07*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message .... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com.... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives... Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it. D...........you are trying to debate with a brick wall. * ;-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What have I posted in this thread that you find false or erroneous? |
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On Apr 25, 5:17*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote: "D.Duck" wrote in message m... wrote in message .... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message .... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:dbSdnaw4OujmUpLVnZ2dnUVZ_qLinZ2d@comc ast.com... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it. D...........you are trying to debate with a brick wall. * ;-) As a longtime friend of honest, hardworking and skilled bricklayers, I resent that remark. It takes a lot of skill and effort to build a proper brick wall. Debating Loogy is more like debating a soggy egg noodle. * :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What a refined and cultured statement..... |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 8:48 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. Big difference is whether you're volunteering to be shot at. In '68 I was running a tractor shoe press in at IH in Chicago. My quencher was a south side black guy who had done a couple tours in Viet Nam. I was south side too but didn't travel in his circles. Shortly after meeting him I noticed a nasty bullet scar on his arm and asked if he was wounded in Viet Nam. His answer was succinct. "No. 63rd and State Street." --Vic No, most of the deaths in Iraq aren't people who have volunteered, they are innocent victims. Just like the 100,000 a year that Saddam was killing? |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 8:48 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. Big difference is whether you're volunteering to be shot at. In '68 I was running a tractor shoe press in at IH in Chicago. My quencher was a south side black guy who had done a couple tours in Viet Nam. I was south side too but didn't travel in his circles. Shortly after meeting him I noticed a nasty bullet scar on his arm and asked if he was wounded in Viet Nam. His answer was succinct. "No. 63rd and State Street." --Vic No, most of the deaths in Iraq aren't people who have volunteered, they are innocent victims. Just like the 100,000 a year that Saddam was killing? Yes, it's much more morally superior to die as a result of U.S. involvement in Iraq. |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 5:00 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hehttp://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You were in agreement with those who have stated in this thread that Chicago is akin to Iraq in numbers of deaths from the hand of others. ===================================== You are a freakin dunder head. I never agreed to any such thing. You claim to have a masters degree in something or another, where did you get your diploma? http://www.fakedegrees.com/ |
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D.Duck wrote:
wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 5:00 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hehttp://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You were in agreement with those who have stated in this thread that Chicago is akin to Iraq in numbers of deaths from the hand of others. ===================================== You are a freakin dunder head. I never agreed to any such thing. You claim to have a masters degree in something or another, where did you get your diploma? http://www.fakedegrees.com/ There you go, insulting honest dunderheads everywhere. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 8:48 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. Big difference is whether you're volunteering to be shot at. In '68 I was running a tractor shoe press in at IH in Chicago. My quencher was a south side black guy who had done a couple tours in Viet Nam. I was south side too but didn't travel in his circles. Shortly after meeting him I noticed a nasty bullet scar on his arm and asked if he was wounded in Viet Nam. His answer was succinct. "No. 63rd and State Street." --Vic No, most of the deaths in Iraq aren't people who have volunteered, they are innocent victims. Just like the 100,000 a year that Saddam was killing? Yes, it's much more morally superior to die as a result of U.S. involvement in Iraq. Kill em all, let alla sort them out. |
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"CalifBill" wrote in message m... "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 8:48 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. Big difference is whether you're volunteering to be shot at. In '68 I was running a tractor shoe press in at IH in Chicago. My quencher was a south side black guy who had done a couple tours in Viet Nam. I was south side too but didn't travel in his circles. Shortly after meeting him I noticed a nasty bullet scar on his arm and asked if he was wounded in Viet Nam. His answer was succinct. "No. 63rd and State Street." --Vic No, most of the deaths in Iraq aren't people who have volunteered, they are innocent victims. Just like the 100,000 a year that Saddam was killing? Yes, it's much more morally superior to die as a result of U.S. involvement in Iraq. Kill em all, let alla sort them out. alla?? |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 8:48 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. Big difference is whether you're volunteering to be shot at. In '68 I was running a tractor shoe press in at IH in Chicago. My quencher was a south side black guy who had done a couple tours in Viet Nam. I was south side too but didn't travel in his circles. Shortly after meeting him I noticed a nasty bullet scar on his arm and asked if he was wounded in Viet Nam. His answer was succinct. "No. 63rd and State Street." --Vic No, most of the deaths in Iraq aren't people who have volunteered, they are innocent victims. Just like the 100,000 a year that Saddam was killing? Yes, it's much more morally superior to die as a result of U.S. involvement in Iraq. Kill em all, let alla sort them out. alla?? Ask HK to explain what you should think about a typo. |
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On Apr 26, 4:13*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 5:00 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely.. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend.. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hehttp://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You were in agreement with those who have stated in this thread that Chicago is akin to Iraq in numbers of deaths from the hand of others. ===================================== You are a freakin dunder head. *I never agreed to any such thing. *You claim to have a masters degree in something or another, *where did you get your diploma? http://www.fakedegrees.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Try this: FOLLOW.....................THE................THRE AD....... Is that slow enough for you? If you do the above, you'll see what we are discussing here...... |
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On Apr 26, 4:15*pm, HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 5:00 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message .... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message .... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:dbSdnaw4OujmUpLVnZ2dnUVZ_qLinZ2d@comc ast.com... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hehttp://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You were in agreement with those who have stated in this thread that Chicago is akin to Iraq in numbers of deaths from the hand of others. ===================================== You are a freakin dunder head. *I never agreed to any such thing. *You claim to have a masters degree in something or another, *where did you get your diploma? http://www.fakedegrees.com/ There you go, insulting honest dunderheads everywhere.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - How cute! Hiding behind your Bozo's bin name calling........just like a third grader. |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 26, 4:13 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 5:00 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hehttp://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You were in agreement with those who have stated in this thread that Chicago is akin to Iraq in numbers of deaths from the hand of others. ===================================== You are a freakin dunder head. I never agreed to any such thing. You claim to have a masters degree in something or another, where did you get your diploma? http://www.fakedegrees.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Try this: FOLLOW.....................THE................THRE AD....... Is that slow enough for you? If you do the above, you'll see what we are discussing here...... ============================================= I'll take one of your tactics. Show me where I agreed that "Chicago is akin to Iraq in numbers of deaths from the hand of others". Can't do it, can you. |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 26, 4:13 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 5:00 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 10:21 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 2:37 pm, "CalifBill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 24, 11:28 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 8:57 am, wrote: On Apr 24, 2:16 am, "CalifBill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Apr 23, 5:49 pm, HK wrote: D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in messagenews:dY6dnQ9YUOgINJLVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comca st.com... ...I was mightily impressed by Hillary Clinton's 10-point victory yesterday in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. The woman is tough and resilient, tough enough to beat the crap out of the Republicans this fall. I like Barack Obama, but I don't think he is tough enough to take on the Republican smear machine that will be out in full force and, in fact, already is, based upon some dirty ads I've seen. The Indiana primary is one I am going to watch closely. The Clinton's can smear with the best of them my friend. Including attacks on B. Obama. Its the way things work around here. db Indeed. That's part of being "tough" in the current realpolitic... I expect the Republicans to throw whatever they can, real or made-up, against the Democratic nominee. In fact, they're already tossing crap against Obama in North Carolina. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, he or she damn well better be ready to throw it back and more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, and Billary can't tell the truth to save their lives.. Now he is saying Obama used the race card.. they have him on tape. The next day he denied it, also on tape... sniper fire indeed. But I know, is, is.... Don't you even care Harry? What I care about is that on inauguration day in January, a Democrat is sworn in as POTUS. Vote McCain, he sucks less. If Obama could accomplish anything, why would Chicago be more dangerous than Iraq?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It isn't. That's a well worn out tactic that is based on no fact.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You should watch the news more often. 10 dead, and nearly 40 shot in Chicago just in the last week.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Still doesn't add up, not by a long shot. Damn close. Is a supposedly modern city in America. Been a Politically controlled town for ever, and this is what we have?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. No where near close. Number of murders and crime down in Chicago CHICAGO (AP) - The Chicago Police Department says crime is down and the murder rate could be at its lowest in 42 years. The trend in Chicago is part of an overall decline in crime nationwide. Before 2003, Chicago reported more than 600 murders a year. There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Police are working to dismantle gang leadership and remove drugs and guns from the streets, she said. This year, Chicago police recovered 13,474 guns, including 6,003 from a gun turn-in program. Demographers say the growth rate in major metropolitan areas is slowing, which also means less crime. Chicago lost 62,000 residents between 2000 and last year, Loyola University professor Kenneth Johnson said. ============================================ "There were 471 murders last year; so far this year, 428 have been reported, Chicago police spokeswoman Monique Bond said." It'll have to be a real slow last seven months for the murder rate not to exceed the "before 2003 rate of 600/year". The city is on track to come close to, or exceed 1,000 this year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you think that's near the number of murders and needless deaths in Iraq?????? Did *I* write that? I just pointed out that Chicago's (I lived there for 50 years) violent crimes are on the up-swing this year. When you extrapolate this the numbers YTD, it doesn't look like crime is down as the article would have you believe after reading the first sentence. You should have posted the date the article was written. That's a 12-2007 piece so the "428 murders" for "this" year actually applies to 12-2007 YTD not YTD 2008. I should have known better to trust some cut and paste here without a date.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hehttp://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ It fluctuates, because it's by the week, but you can clearly see that it's between 500 and a thousand per WEEK. How close to that is Chicago's murder rate again? =========================== Read my post above and see if you can understand it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You were in agreement with those who have stated in this thread that Chicago is akin to Iraq in numbers of deaths from the hand of others. ===================================== You are a freakin dunder head. I never agreed to any such thing. You claim to have a masters degree in something or another, where did you get your diploma? http://www.fakedegrees.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Try this: FOLLOW.....................THE................THRE AD....... Is that slow enough for you? If you do the above, you'll see what we are discussing here...... ============================================= I'll take one of your tactics. Show me where I agreed that "Chicago is akin to Iraq in numbers of deaths from the hand of others". Can't do it, can you. Ack! |
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"CalifBill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 8:48 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. Big difference is whether you're volunteering to be shot at. In '68 I was running a tractor shoe press in at IH in Chicago. My quencher was a south side black guy who had done a couple tours in Viet Nam. I was south side too but didn't travel in his circles. Shortly after meeting him I noticed a nasty bullet scar on his arm and asked if he was wounded in Viet Nam. His answer was succinct. "No. 63rd and State Street." --Vic No, most of the deaths in Iraq aren't people who have volunteered, they are innocent victims. Just like the 100,000 a year that Saddam was killing? Yes, it's much more morally superior to die as a result of U.S. involvement in Iraq. Kill em all, let alla sort them out. alla?? Ask HK to explain what you should think about a typo. Just a warning... the Islamic community doesn't take these slights lightly. |
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Don White wrote:
"CalifBill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 8:48 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. Big difference is whether you're volunteering to be shot at. In '68 I was running a tractor shoe press in at IH in Chicago. My quencher was a south side black guy who had done a couple tours in Viet Nam. I was south side too but didn't travel in his circles. Shortly after meeting him I noticed a nasty bullet scar on his arm and asked if he was wounded in Viet Nam. His answer was succinct. "No. 63rd and State Street." --Vic No, most of the deaths in Iraq aren't people who have volunteered, they are innocent victims. Just like the 100,000 a year that Saddam was killing? Yes, it's much more morally superior to die as a result of U.S. involvement in Iraq. Kill em all, let alla sort them out. alla?? Ask HK to explain what you should think about a typo. Just a warning... the Islamic community doesn't take these slights lightly. Why are you afraid of the Islamic community? |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. Don White wrote: "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 8:48 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. Big difference is whether you're volunteering to be shot at. In '68 I was running a tractor shoe press in at IH in Chicago. My quencher was a south side black guy who had done a couple tours in Viet Nam. I was south side too but didn't travel in his circles. Shortly after meeting him I noticed a nasty bullet scar on his arm and asked if he was wounded in Viet Nam. His answer was succinct. "No. 63rd and State Street." --Vic No, most of the deaths in Iraq aren't people who have volunteered, they are innocent victims. Just like the 100,000 a year that Saddam was killing? Yes, it's much more morally superior to die as a result of U.S. involvement in Iraq. Kill em all, let alla sort them out. alla?? Ask HK to explain what you should think about a typo. Just a warning... the Islamic community doesn't take these slights lightly. Why are you afraid of the Islamic community? I'm not because I don't disrespect them. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Don White wrote: "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 25, 8:48 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Do you maintain that deaths in Chicago by the hand of others are anywhere near the deaths in Iraq by the hands of others? Probably hundreds of times more deaths in Iraq. I'll look into stats. Big difference is whether you're volunteering to be shot at. In '68 I was running a tractor shoe press in at IH in Chicago. My quencher was a south side black guy who had done a couple tours in Viet Nam. I was south side too but didn't travel in his circles. Shortly after meeting him I noticed a nasty bullet scar on his arm and asked if he was wounded in Viet Nam. His answer was succinct. "No. 63rd and State Street." --Vic No, most of the deaths in Iraq aren't people who have volunteered, they are innocent victims. Just like the 100,000 a year that Saddam was killing? Yes, it's much more morally superior to die as a result of U.S. involvement in Iraq. Kill em all, let alla sort them out. alla?? Ask HK to explain what you should think about a typo. Just a warning... the Islamic community doesn't take these slights lightly. Why are you afraid of the Islamic community? I'm not because I don't disrespect them. You should. Or they will be requiring Sharia Law in Canada. Sort of like Mother England. |
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Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. Don White wrote: "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message Kill em all, let alla sort them out. alla?? Ask HK to explain what you should think about a typo. Just a warning... the Islamic community doesn't take these slights lightly. Why are you afraid of the Islamic community? I'm not because I don't disrespect them. Your statement two posts ago belies your bravado. You are a follower and not a leader. When you are challenged you will cower in fear. |
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BAR wrote:
Don White wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. Don White wrote: "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message Kill em all, let alla sort them out. alla?? Ask HK to explain what you should think about a typo. Just a warning... the Islamic community doesn't take these slights lightly. Why are you afraid of the Islamic community? I'm not because I don't disrespect them. Your statement two posts ago belies your bravado. You are a follower and not a leader. When you are challenged you will cower in fear. You've been reading too many fortune cookies, dip****. |
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