Hi,

As a first time buyer I’ve come across some important questions and
wanted to solicit some expert opinions. I live in Ohio and will be
boating often on Lake Erie. My wife and I are in the buying process
and are at a cross roads as to whether we should get an Open Bow or a
Cuddy, has anyone been in this position before and if so could you
offer some advice?

We are looking to entertain on this boat and do some skiing along with
fishing.

I should note that we do not plan on sleeping on the boat often if at
all and the boat size we are looking at is 22-25’.

Thank you for your help!

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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:22:39 GMT, GoBrowns wrote:

Hi,

As a first time buyer I’ve come across some important questions and
wanted to solicit some expert opinions. I live in Ohio and will be
boating often on Lake Erie. My wife and I are in the buying process
and are at a cross roads as to whether we should get an Open Bow or a
Cuddy, has anyone been in this position before and if so could you
offer some advice?

We are looking to entertain on this boat and do some skiing along with
fishing.

I should note that we do not plan on sleeping on the boat often if at
all and the boat size we are looking at is 22-25’.

Thank you for your help!

Cuddy - in particular if you have wimmenz on board. Better to have a
place to sit down rather than hang off the side when nature calls.
Plus, in most cuddys in that class boat have some sort of
refigeration and service amenities - like a small alcohol/gas stove
and minor couner space. In the 25' class, you might even have a
seperate head.

The wimmez will appreciate the head the most. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
My experience with that is the reverse.....
JR
snerk

The wimmez will appreciate the head the most. :)

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
My experience with that is the reverse.....
JR
snerk

The wimmez will appreciate the head the most. :)

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Talk about peeing in the river
http://www.bigducky.com/videos/funny...-pee-prank.htm

Small cuddies are worthless as tits on a boar hog in my opinion. They just
end up being big storage areas. No one wants to ride in there so you're
just sacrificing passenger space that you would have had with an open bow.
If you want to entertain that means other couples. Everyone will want to
sit outside when the boat is moving. When the boat is sitting still the
cuddy is too hot to stay in anyway. When you're doing water sports everyone
not on the rope wants to watch. Can't watch from the cuddy. Think about
it, who is really going to want to spend any time in the cuddy. If you
really think you need bathroom space there are bowriders in your length
requirement that have small enclosed privacy areas between the main
passenger area and the bow. My experience is that everyone is in a bathing
suit and just jumps in the lake to pee.

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Hi,

As a first time buyer I've come across some important questions and
wanted to solicit some expert opinions. I live in Ohio and will be
boating often on Lake Erie. My wife and I are in the buying process
and are at a cross roads as to whether we should get an Open Bow or a
Cuddy, has anyone been in this position before and if so could you
offer some advice?

We are looking to entertain on this boat and do some skiing along with
fishing.

I should note that we do not plan on sleeping on the boat often if at
all and the boat size we are looking at is 22-25'.

Thank you for your help!

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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:23:31 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

My experience is that everyone is in a bathing
suit and just jumps in the lake to pee

Um....I don't know about that. Mrs. Wave isn't that proletarian. I
suspect that most other women, what with their unique
physiologies/anatomies and moments of periodic infirmities (like the
way I put that?) would prefer not to jump into the lake to perform
bodily functions.

Privacy curtains aren't an answer either for obvious reasons.

I think in his case, cuddy is probably the only way to go.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:23:31 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

My experience is that everyone is in a bathing
suit and just jumps in the lake to pee

Um....I don't know about that. Mrs. Wave isn't that proletarian. I
suspect that most other women, what with their unique
physiologies/anatomies and moments of periodic infirmities (like the
way I put that?) would prefer not to jump into the lake to perform
bodily functions.

Privacy curtains aren't an answer either for obvious reasons.

I think in his case, cuddy is probably the only way to go.

I'm not talking about curtains, there are bow riders in the plus 20ft size
that have created small "privacy" spaces to one side between the main
passenger area and the bow. Hard walled with a door. Just enough space for
a potty without wasting space. If all you really need is bathroom space
this is obviously the way to go.

The majority of the small cuddies in use that I have been aboard have simply
been a big ski locker/junk storage. You want to sacrifice a third of the
boat to be a bathroom. In that size range they are just hot and cramped.

Certainly depends on the age group and the personal level of sports
activities. But the crowd we move in doesn't mind getting wet. If you're
going to ski, wakeboard, or tube then you're getting in the water.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:51:21 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:23:31 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

My experience is that everyone is in a bathing
suit and just jumps in the lake to pee

Um....I don't know about that. Mrs. Wave isn't that proletarian. I
suspect that most other women, what with their unique
physiologies/anatomies and moments of periodic infirmities (like the
way I put that?) would prefer not to jump into the lake to perform
bodily functions.

Privacy curtains aren't an answer either for obvious reasons.

I think in his case, cuddy is probably the only way to go.

I'm not talking about curtains, there are bow riders in the plus 20ft size
that have created small "privacy" spaces to one side between the main
passenger area and the bow. Hard walled with a door. Just enough space for
a potty without wasting space. If all you really need is bathroom space
this is obviously the way to go.

The majority of the small cuddies in use that I have been aboard have simply
been a big ski locker/junk storage. You want to sacrifice a third of the
boat to be a bathroom. In that size range they are just hot and cramped.

Certainly depends on the age group and the personal level of sports
activities. But the crowd we move in doesn't mind getting wet. If you're
going to ski, wakeboard, or tube then you're getting in the water.

JimH makes a great point although to be fair, we don't know where the
original poster is planning on running his boat. You make a good
point with respect to inland lakes where the water temp is up, but you
sure as hell don't want to be doing that in the North Atlantic often.

I think you under estimate the feminine component in all this. Then
again, if he's running inland, there may be facilities available
within a short distance.

With respect to cuddys, I respectfully disagree.

On Apr 22, 7:51*am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:


The majority of the small cuddies in use that I have been aboard have simply
been a big ski locker/junk storage. *You want to sacrifice a third of the
boat to be a bathroom. *In that size range they are just hot and cramped..



I'd have to agree to a point. I have a 23' cuddie w 350 GM). I like
it. it's big, yet agile, rides well and is a pleasure to ride and
drive. It's too big to be a runabout, and too small to be a cruiser.
and you sit high, and comfortable, but it's also not a bubble boat,
and the cabin? May as well not be. There's not room to sleep in it, no
room for really any kind of accessories, and yes, I wold have to say
its more of a storage locker for "stuff". Oh, it would be perfect for
carrying supplies for doing a good camping weekend on a lake or river,
but that's really about it. another unfortunate thinng about my cuddie
is that the only really accessable part of the floor space is about
the aft half of the boat. I wish that really didn't have the cabin
part, and wasn't necessarily open bow, but a short closed bow. That
would give much more free space for passengers and moving around and
ample space for storage.

But I bought the boat really right, and It's still well worth what I
gave for it, so. I can't (or shouldn't) complain.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Apr 22, 7:51 am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:


The majority of the small cuddies in use that I have been aboard have
simply
been a big ski locker/junk storage. You want to sacrifice a third of the
boat to be a bathroom. In that size range they are just hot and cramped.



I'd have to agree to a point. I have a 23' cuddie w 350 GM). I like
it. it's big, yet agile, rides well and is a pleasure to ride and
drive. It's too big to be a runabout, and too small to be a cruiser.
and you sit high, and comfortable, but it's also not a bubble boat,
and the cabin? May as well not be. There's not room to sleep in it, no
room for really any kind of accessories, and yes, I wold have to say
its more of a storage locker for "stuff". Oh, it would be perfect for
carrying supplies for doing a good camping weekend on a lake or river,
but that's really about it. another unfortunate thinng about my cuddie
is that the only really accessable part of the floor space is about
the aft half of the boat. I wish that really didn't have the cabin
part, and wasn't necessarily open bow, but a short closed bow. That
would give much more free space for passengers and moving around and
ample space for storage.

But I bought the boat really right, and It's still well worth what I
gave for it, so. I can't (or shouldn't) complain.

Odd. I spent three nights in the cabin of my 18.5 foot sailboat last
August.
It was cramped but I only went there to sleep. I was lucky that we had
access to a washroom each night so I avoided using my MSD.