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High and Low Points of Civilization
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... D-unit wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:41:47 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... The high: Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last Supper (1495?98) and Mona Lisa (1503?06) are widely influential paintings. Born in 1452. The low: On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's Corporation. :) I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood home. Any White Castles there? I was delivering papers on my bike when I saw my first MacDonalds, around 79th and Jeffery. There was an old White Castle a couple blocks east. I tried one of the McDonald burgers - it was 15 cents. Liked the smaller White Castle much better - it was 12 cents. That was '59 I think. Maybe '60. I still eat 8 White Castles once in a while, when I get the craving, 3 or 4 times a year. Of course I always regret it for a couple days. Never cared at all for McDonalds. Best thing they have is the breakfast sandwiches. I'll stop when we travel for that if that's how our schedule is working, but otherwise stay away. None of my kids got hooked on that, either, because I only took them there if we were on the road. A good hamburger is easy to make. Now fried chicken - that's another story. --Vic ps. I worked in Mac's marketing department for a couple years. Corporate HQ in Oak Brook. Amazing business, and a super operation. Ray Croc bought McD's for the softserve milkshake machine patent at first. Not for the burger and fries part. The good thing about McD's is the senior coffee. Very good coffee and I have paid from $0.25 to $0.59 for it. Lot better price than the big chains and better coffee also. Try not to spill it, I hear its HOT! AFAIK, McDonald's (thee original) was one of the first restaurants to make hamburgers, cheeseburgers and fries in advance of the actual purchase, hence "Fast Food" db I've had the MickeyD's coffee and Ca Bill is correct, it is good coffee. But...I hate going into the stores because the damned place always smells like *heavy* fried food, even first thing in the morning, and that aroma is a personal turn off for me. I'm not a fan of the "boutique" coffee shops, because I find their coffee too heavy or strong for my taste. So, when I am out and about and need a caffeine fix, I just go into an ordinary sandwich/breakfast shop and get coffee. Regular, ordinary coffee. I like WaWa coffee. I go through the drive through. Is one at where I have to turn on to the major road near my house, so works out well when going somewhere with the boat. Have to pass McD's to get to storage yard. If just morning coffee, meet some friends at time at the local Donut shop. The two Mickey D's near us have 20-minute lines during morning rush. The WaWa does not. I am mostly retired. Why go at commute hour? For some reason, the meetings I have to get to seem to start at 9 am. |
High and Low Points of Civilization
Don White wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... The high: Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last Supper (1495-98) and Mona Lisa (1503-06) are widely influential paintings. Born in 1452. The low: On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's Corporation. :) I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood home. If McDonald's was unionized Harry would be gushing about it. Can you imagine the increased apathy of the workers at McDonald's if it was unionized? Maybe as bad as a bunch of pseudo marines? I find your comments about BAR's service to our Country with the USMC offensive Don and ask that you drop it. I find his comments about hard working union members offensive. Ask him to 'drop it' and I'll consider same. touche. |
High and Low Points of Civilization
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:50:01 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:50:18 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:41:47 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... The high: Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last Supper (1495?98) and Mona Lisa (1503?06) are widely influential paintings. Born in 1452. The low: On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's Corporation. :) I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood home. Any White Castles there? I was delivering papers on my bike when I saw my first MacDonalds, around 79th and Jeffery. There was an old White Castle a couple blocks east. I tried one of the McDonald burgers - it was 15 cents. Liked the smaller White Castle much better - it was 12 cents. That was '59 I think. Maybe '60. I still eat 8 White Castles once in a while, when I get the craving, 3 or 4 times a year. Of course I always regret it for a couple days. Never cared at all for McDonalds. Best thing they have is the breakfast sandwiches. I'll stop when we travel for that if that's how our schedule is working, but otherwise stay away. None of my kids got hooked on that, either, because I only took them there if we were on the road. A good hamburger is easy to make. Now fried chicken - that's another story. --Vic ps. I worked in Mac's marketing department for a couple years. Corporate HQ in Oak Brook. Amazing business, and a super operation. Ray Croc bought McD's for the softserve milkshake machine patent at first. Not for the burger and fries part. The good thing about McD's is the senior coffee. Very good coffee and I have paid from $0.25 to $0.59 for it. Lot better price than the big chains and better coffee also. Their new coffee is much better than the old. When in Disney World, where coffee was over $2.00, I asked, in the McDonalds, for a senior coffee. Sure enough, I got it for $0.59. Not a bad deal. -- John *H* (Not the other one!) We were in a town in Italy. Maybe Siena, and we used the McD's restroom. Couple of old people in there drinking coffee. They said, was a euro and all the refills they wanted. As opposed to a Euro minimum a cup everywhere else. Don't buy a hamburger at the McD's in Paris. They cost a small fortune, and that was back in 1988! -- John *H* (Not the other one!) |
High and Low Points of Civilization
"John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:50:01 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:50:18 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message m... On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:41:47 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... The high: Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last Supper (1495?98) and Mona Lisa (1503?06) are widely influential paintings. Born in 1452. The low: On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's Corporation. :) I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood home. Any White Castles there? I was delivering papers on my bike when I saw my first MacDonalds, around 79th and Jeffery. There was an old White Castle a couple blocks east. I tried one of the McDonald burgers - it was 15 cents. Liked the smaller White Castle much better - it was 12 cents. That was '59 I think. Maybe '60. I still eat 8 White Castles once in a while, when I get the craving, 3 or 4 times a year. Of course I always regret it for a couple days. Never cared at all for McDonalds. Best thing they have is the breakfast sandwiches. I'll stop when we travel for that if that's how our schedule is working, but otherwise stay away. None of my kids got hooked on that, either, because I only took them there if we were on the road. A good hamburger is easy to make. Now fried chicken - that's another story. --Vic ps. I worked in Mac's marketing department for a couple years. Corporate HQ in Oak Brook. Amazing business, and a super operation. Ray Croc bought McD's for the softserve milkshake machine patent at first. Not for the burger and fries part. The good thing about McD's is the senior coffee. Very good coffee and I have paid from $0.25 to $0.59 for it. Lot better price than the big chains and better coffee also. Their new coffee is much better than the old. When in Disney World, where coffee was over $2.00, I asked, in the McDonalds, for a senior coffee. Sure enough, I got it for $0.59. Not a bad deal. -- John *H* (Not the other one!) We were in a town in Italy. Maybe Siena, and we used the McD's restroom. Couple of old people in there drinking coffee. They said, was a euro and all the refills they wanted. As opposed to a Euro minimum a cup everywhere else. Don't buy a hamburger at the McD's in Paris. They cost a small fortune, and that was back in 1988! -- John *H* (Not the other one!) Back in that era, we have friends that were posted to the Embassy in Paris. Their 2 kids had a deal that they could pick the place for dinner if they scored great grades. Sandy said they picked McD's. Over $50, one of the more expensive places to dine. We were just in Costa Rica and near the airport, was only a Taco Bell on one corner and McD's on the other corner. We had just dropped off the laundry and needed lunch. Wife picked McD's. She had the hardest, driest chicken breast sandwich imaginable. Price was not too bad, and the buger I had was good. |
High and Low Points of Civilization
"Don White" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... The high: Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last Supper (1495-98) and Mona Lisa (1503-06) are widely influential paintings. Born in 1452. The low: On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's Corporation. :) I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood home. If McDonald's was unionized Harry would be gushing about it. Can you imagine the increased apathy of the workers at McDonald's if it was unionized? Maybe as bad as a bunch of pseudo marines? I find your comments about BAR's service to our Country with the USMC offensive Don and ask that you drop it. I find his comments about hard working union members offensive. Ask him to 'drop it' and I'll consider same. There are those? More than a minority? |
High and Low Points of Civilization
"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... The high: Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last Supper (1495-98) and Mona Lisa (1503-06) are widely influential paintings. Born in 1452. The low: On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's Corporation. :) I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood home. If McDonald's was unionized Harry would be gushing about it. Can you imagine the increased apathy of the workers at McDonald's if it was unionized? Maybe as bad as a bunch of pseudo marines? I find your comments about BAR's service to our Country with the USMC offensive Don and ask that you drop it. I find his comments about hard working union members offensive. Ask him to 'drop it' and I'll consider same. There are those? More than a minority? Might be a cultural thing. Up here in my experience, the vast majority of union members are hard working decent type people who will give a full days work for a days pay. Of course I am most familiar with Crown Corporation employees.... |
High and Low Points of Civilization
"Don White" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... The high: Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last Supper (1495-98) and Mona Lisa (1503-06) are widely influential paintings. Born in 1452. The low: On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's Corporation. :) I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood home. If McDonald's was unionized Harry would be gushing about it. Can you imagine the increased apathy of the workers at McDonald's if it was unionized? Maybe as bad as a bunch of pseudo marines? I find your comments about BAR's service to our Country with the USMC offensive Don and ask that you drop it. I find his comments about hard working union members offensive. Ask him to 'drop it' and I'll consider same. There are those? More than a minority? Might be a cultural thing. Up here in my experience, the vast majority of union members are hard working decent type people who will give a full days work for a days pay. Of course I am most familiar with Crown Corporation employees.... Government Employees, the worst. |
High and Low Points of Civilization
"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... The high: Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last Supper (1495-98) and Mona Lisa (1503-06) are widely influential paintings. Born in 1452. The low: On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's Corporation. :) I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood home. If McDonald's was unionized Harry would be gushing about it. Can you imagine the increased apathy of the workers at McDonald's if it was unionized? Maybe as bad as a bunch of pseudo marines? I find your comments about BAR's service to our Country with the USMC offensive Don and ask that you drop it. I find his comments about hard working union members offensive. Ask him to 'drop it' and I'll consider same. There are those? More than a minority? Might be a cultural thing. Up here in my experience, the vast majority of union members are hard working decent type people who will give a full days work for a days pay. Of course I am most familiar with Crown Corporation employees.... Government Employees, the worst. Maybe in your world. Must be a problem with gov't administrators in your area. Here, in a slightly depressed economy, people have always felt lucky to 'land a gov't job' as the pay levels usually exceeded similar work in the private sector. Things may be changing now as we usually pickup all the bad 'merican habits 10 or 20 years later. |
High and Low Points of Civilization
Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... The high: Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last Supper (1495-98) and Mona Lisa (1503-06) are widely influential paintings. Born in 1452. The low: On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's Corporation. :) I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood home. If McDonald's was unionized Harry would be gushing about it. Can you imagine the increased apathy of the workers at McDonald's if it was unionized? Maybe as bad as a bunch of pseudo marines? I find your comments about BAR's service to our Country with the USMC offensive Don and ask that you drop it. I find his comments about hard working union members offensive. Ask him to 'drop it' and I'll consider same. There are those? More than a minority? Might be a cultural thing. Up here in my experience, the vast majority of union members are hard working decent type people who will give a full days work for a days pay. Of course I am most familiar with Crown Corporation employees.... Government Employees, the worst. Maybe in your world. Must be a problem with gov't administrators in your area. Here, in a slightly depressed economy, people have always felt lucky to 'land a gov't job' as the pay levels usually exceeded similar work in the private sector. Things may be changing now as we usually pickup all the bad 'merican habits 10 or 20 years later. Does that mean in two years one of your dominant political parties is going to select an idiot as head of state? :) |
High and Low Points of Civilization
Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... The high: Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last Supper (1495-98) and Mona Lisa (1503-06) are widely influential paintings. Born in 1452. The low: On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's Corporation. :) I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood home. If McDonald's was unionized Harry would be gushing about it. Can you imagine the increased apathy of the workers at McDonald's if it was unionized? Maybe as bad as a bunch of pseudo marines? I find your comments about BAR's service to our Country with the USMC offensive Don and ask that you drop it. I find his comments about hard working union members offensive. Ask him to 'drop it' and I'll consider same. There are those? More than a minority? Might be a cultural thing. Up here in my experience, the vast majority of union members are hard working decent type people who will give a full days work for a days pay. Of course I am most familiar with Crown Corporation employees.... Government Employees, the worst. Maybe in your world. Must be a problem with gov't administrators in your area. Here, in a slightly depressed economy, people have always felt lucky to 'land a gov't job' as the pay levels usually exceeded similar work in the private sector. Things may be changing now as we usually pickup all the bad 'merican habits 10 or 20 years later. Have you ever tried to fire a government employee? |
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