Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat productionfacility?
We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website at www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Mar 13, 10:05*am, carbon performance
wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. *We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comor contact me directly at Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Mar 13, 10:23*am, wrote:
On Mar 13, 10:05*am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. *We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontact me directly at Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Mar 13, 10:37*am, carbon performance
wrote: On Mar 13, 10:23*am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05*am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. *We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontactme directly at Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I believe he was.. good luck.. |
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You really need to get out more often...
JR carbon performance wrote: On Mar 13, 10:23 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontact me directly at Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat productionfacility?
carbon performance wrote:
On Mar 13, 10:23 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontact me directly at Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? "Loogy" is the newgroup's current leader for "The Most Intellectually Challenged" Trophy. |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Mar 13, 10:59*am, HK wrote:
carbon performance wrote: On Mar 13, 10:23 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. *We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontactme directly at Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? "Loogy" is the newgroup's current leader for "The Most Intellectually Challenged" Trophy.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's very refined and cultured, and also fits right in with your boyfriend's plans for a nicer rec.boats |
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On Mar 13, 10:59*am, HK wrote:
carbon performance wrote: On Mar 13, 10:23 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. *We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontactme directly at Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? "Loogy" is the newgroup's current leader for "The Most Intellectually Challenged" Trophy.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's our Harry! If someone doesn't believe his bull**** and lies, or dares to ask him about his bull**** and lies, he'll instantly start his childish insults and name calling. It's the cultured and refined way, don't you know? |
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On Mar 13, 11:20*am, wrote:
On Mar 13, 10:59*am, HK wrote: carbon performance wrote: On Mar 13, 10:23 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. *We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontactmedirectl y at Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? "Loogy" is the newgroup's current leader for "The Most Intellectually Challenged" Trophy.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's our Harry! If someone doesn't believe his bull**** and lies, or dares to ask him about his bull**** and lies, he'll instantly start his childish insults and name calling. It's the cultured and refined way, don't you know?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey loog.. why don't we keep the Harry bashing in house.. This guy has obviously never been involved in any of our (mine too) folly, he is just trying to make a living and start a business... Could be a great asset later when the boating season starts up if we don't scare him off.. Just my 02... |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Mar 13, 11:46*am, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 11:20 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:59 am, HK wrote: carbon performance wrote: On Mar 13, 10:23 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontactmedirectl yat Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? "Loogy" is the newgroup's current leader for "The Most Intellectually Challenged" Trophy.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's our Harry! If someone doesn't believe his bull**** and lies, or dares to ask him about his bull**** and lies, he'll instantly start his childish insults and name calling. It's the cultured and refined way, don't you know?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey loog.. why don't we keep the Harry bashing in house.. This guy has obviously never been involved in any of our (mine too) folly, he is just trying to make a living and start a business... Could be a great asset later when the boating season starts up if we don't scare him off.. Just my 02... ========== Why not just stop all bashing?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What bashing? Do you mean like, perhaps telling people here that you know who I am, where I live, and that you found out I got a DUI in Gwinnet county (all lies). How did I bash Harry? He has stated all of those things. |
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JimH wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 11:20 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:59 am, HK wrote: carbon performance wrote: On Mar 13, 10:23 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontactmedirectl y at Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? "Loogy" is the newgroup's current leader for "The Most Intellectually Challenged" Trophy.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's our Harry! If someone doesn't believe his bull**** and lies, or dares to ask him about his bull**** and lies, he'll instantly start his childish insults and name calling. It's the cultured and refined way, don't you know?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey loog.. why don't we keep the Harry bashing in house.. This guy has obviously never been involved in any of our (mine too) folly, he is just trying to make a living and start a business... Could be a great asset later when the boating season starts up if we don't scare him off.. Just my 02... ========== Why not just stop all bashing? It's going to be a long, hot summer around here, what with Lake Laneral in Atlanta as dried up as Ann Coulter's......................heart. Two of the most offensive posters here frequent that little pond... |
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On Mar 13, 12:59*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 11:20 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:59 am, HK wrote: carbon performance wrote: On Mar 13, 10:23 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontactmedirectl yat Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? "Loogy" is the newgroup's current leader for "The Most Intellectually Challenged" Trophy.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's our Harry! If someone doesn't believe his bull**** and lies, or dares to ask him about his bull**** and lies, he'll instantly start his childish insults and name calling. It's the cultured and refined way, don't you know?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey loog.. why don't we keep the Harry bashing in house.. This guy has obviously never been involved in any of our (mine too) folly, he is just trying to make a living and start a business... Could be a great asset later when the boating season starts up if we don't scare him off.. Just my 02... ========== Why not just stop all bashing? It's going to be a long, hot summer around here, what with Lake Laneral in Atlanta as dried up as Ann Coulter's......................heart. Two of the most offensive posters here frequent that little pond...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, what is offensive about asking you about things that you have stated? |
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"carbon performance" wrote in message
... We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website at www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at Since lawyers are often involved with setting up business partnerships, you might want to call yours to see if he/she can refer you to some local investors. |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat production facility?
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "carbon performance" wrote in message ... We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website at www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at Since lawyers are often involved with setting up business partnerships, you might want to call yours to see if he/she can refer you to some local investors. I am curious as to the available or planned "designs". Not to be critical, and realizing this is likely a start-up venture, but the boat displayed on the website looks like another bubble boat "me too" with construction techniques that are not really unique in the industry. If I were king, I think I'd be investing in a more classic design after doing a detailed market survey and analysis of customer's wish lists and try to develop something "different". That said though, I wish them good luck with their business venture. Eisboch |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat production facility?
"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "carbon performance" wrote in message ... We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website at www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at Since lawyers are often involved with setting up business partnerships, you might want to call yours to see if he/she can refer you to some local investors. I am curious as to the available or planned "designs". Not to be critical, and realizing this is likely a start-up venture, but the boat displayed on the website looks like another bubble boat "me too" with construction techniques that are not really unique in the industry. If I were king, I think I'd be investing in a more classic design after doing a detailed market survey and analysis of customer's wish lists and try to develop something "different". That said though, I wish them good luck with their business venture. Eisboch Yup. But if what I see on the water here is any indication, retail customers are in "me too" mode when they buy that type of boat. Some days, it's like watching the donut machine at Krispy Kreme. One after another after another...and none of them turn heads, at least not for me. This, on the other hand, makes me drool: http://www.mainship.com/models/Pilot31/31.html But, I'm old. If I was a venture capitalist, I'd want to know how he planned to get dealers to listen to his sales pitch, considering that he's going to be up against long standing relationships with older manufacturers. |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat production facility?
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), carbon performance
wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website at www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at Guy down the street has a Bayliner that looks exactly like it. Get back to me when you've got something unique. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website at www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at Guy down the street has a Bayliner that looks exactly like it. Get back to me when you've got something unique. Somebody must have purchased some molds at an odd lots sale. If "carbon" is in the name I am thinking of carbon-fiber, kevlar and the like. |
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:02:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website at www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at Guy down the street has a Bayliner that looks exactly like it. Get back to me when you've got something unique. I liked the Whaler in the front. -- John |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Mar 13, 9:05*am, carbon performance
wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. *We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comor contact me directly at I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. But I was wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one you've constructed? Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners" which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would possibly aid in attracting investors. The best of luck to you! |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat production facility?
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comor contact me directly at I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. But I was wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one you've constructed? Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners" which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would possibly aid in attracting investors. The best of luck to you! ------------------------------------------ This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. Maybe it's because I got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked. The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic point of view anyway. I liked it's tone. Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. It's going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers building similar boats. So, here's the problem. In order to gain entry to the marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and desirable. The only option is price. The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. You loose money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up. Plus, it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established. I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to me there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment. Eisboch |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat production facility?
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comor contact me directly at I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. But I was wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one you've constructed? Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners" which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would possibly aid in attracting investors. The best of luck to you! ------------------------------------------ This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. Maybe it's because I got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked. The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic point of view anyway. I liked it's tone. Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. It's going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers building similar boats. So, here's the problem. In order to gain entry to the marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and desirable. The only option is price. The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. You loose money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up. Plus, it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established. I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to me there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment. Eisboch "Lose" (not "loose") ...... dope. Eisboch |
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On Mar 13, 8:05*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontact me directly at I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. *But I was wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one you've constructed? *Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners" which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would possibly aid in attracting investors. The best of luck to you! ------------------------------------------ This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. *Maybe it's because I got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked. The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic point of view anyway. *I liked it's tone. Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. *It's going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers building similar boats. * *So, here's the problem. *In order to gain entry to the marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and desirable.. The only option is price. The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. *You loose money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up. * Plus, it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established. I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to me there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment. Eisboch Well, if you're interested in investment in the boat business... I've got an extra hammer;) |
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wrote in message ... Well, if you're interested in investment in the boat business... I've got an extra hammer;) --------------------------- Which end to you hold? Eisboch |
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On Mar 13, 8:23 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message ... Well, if you're interested in investment in the boat business... I've got an extra hammer;) --------------------------- Which end to you hold? Eisboch Ok, can you stir glue? Maybe we can get Tom to do the glass work. Oh, oh... we better hide...;) |
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On Mar 13, 7:11*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontact me directly at I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. *But I was wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one you've constructed? *Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners" which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would possibly aid in attracting investors. The best of luck to you! ------------------------------------------ This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. *Maybe it's because I got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked. The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic point of view anyway. *I liked it's tone. Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. *It's going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers building similar boats. * *So, here's the problem. *In order to gain entry to the marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and desirable. The only option is price. The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. *You loose money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up. Plus, it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established. I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to me there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment. Eisboch "Lose" *(not "loose") * ...... dope. Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - you were right the first time. Investers with "loose" money can easily "loooze" it, especially on big-ticket items without careful planning. Agreed, though, unless they have a niche' market there's already old established names out there that can be tough competitors |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Mar 13, 7:46*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontact me directly at I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. *But I was wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one you've constructed? *Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners" which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would possibly aid in attracting investors. The best of luck to you! ------------------------------------------ This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. *Maybe it's because I got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked. The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic point of view anyway. *I liked it's tone. Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. *It's going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers building similar boats. * *So, here's the problem. *In order to gain entry to the marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and desirable. The only option is price. The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. *You loose money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up. Plus, it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established. I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to me there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment. Eisboch The boat pictured on the website actually looks like a production Regal or SeaRay. * The picture is not sharp and identifying logos or decals were most likely photochopped out. As you say the website is vague on all aspects of the boat including construction. Looks like a scam to me.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Could be, Jim. Maybe I'm not looking in all the right places, but googling the 'net doesn't provide any info., that is besides their own site. |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat productionfacility?
JimH wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 11:20 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:59 am, HK wrote: carbon performance wrote: On Mar 13, 10:23 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontactmedirectl y at Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? "Loogy" is the newgroup's current leader for "The Most Intellectually Challenged" Trophy.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's our Harry! If someone doesn't believe his bull**** and lies, or dares to ask him about his bull**** and lies, he'll instantly start his childish insults and name calling. It's the cultured and refined way, don't you know?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey loog.. why don't we keep the Harry bashing in house.. This guy has obviously never been involved in any of our (mine too) folly, he is just trying to make a living and start a business... Could be a great asset later when the boating season starts up if we don't scare him off.. Just my 02... ========== Why not just stop all bashing? If that occurred, about nine posters who come here only to "bash" you, me, and one or two others would have nothing to post. |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Mar 13, 8:05 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontact me directly at I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. But I was wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one you've constructed? Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners" which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would possibly aid in attracting investors. The best of luck to you! ------------------------------------------ This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. Maybe it's because I got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked. The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic point of view anyway. I liked it's tone. Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. It's going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers building similar boats. So, here's the problem. In order to gain entry to the marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and desirable. The only option is price. The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. You loose money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up. Plus, it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established. I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to me there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment. Eisboch Thank you everyone for your responses. I do agree, our website is, as some of you have said, "sparse" however, that is intentional on our part. The reason that we simplified the site is that we only wanted to provide basic information to individuals that might be interested in discussing a partnership with us. It is not meant to answer every question, or provide a detailed business summary for everyone who views the site to read. The boat that you see pictured on the website is a generic model boat, and is not meant to be representative of what we are producing. We do intend to completely revamp the website when appropriate, however, at this point the object of the site was simply to provide additional information to potential partners. The initial boat that we will be producing is a 22' performance offshore boat, with sleeping arrangements, and cooking options. Our intention with this business and design is to allow a wider customization of the product by the buyer, beyond simply choosing the exterior and interior colours, and whether to include a marine radio or not. Our buyers are able to essentially build their boat "from the ground up". They are in total control of the entire build process from start to finish. The only aspect that they are not able to customize is the actual hull. The deck is fully customizable, from just a basic fiberglass deck with no windows, grab-rails, or sun deck, to a fully optioned carbon-fiber deck that is stronger then steel. We also offer a mahogany deck for customers that are interested in the nostalgic boats of the past, with the reliability and durability that a fiberglass or carbon fiber hull provides. Based on our pricing options for the boat, we are able to offer the boat at a reduced price, while still making a sizable profit. Thank you again for all your responses, and I look forward to discussing this business opportunity with interested parties. John carbonboats at yahoo.com www.carbonperformanceboats.com |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Apr 3, 5:15*pm, carbon performance
wrote: On Mar 13, 8:05 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontactme directly at I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. *But I was wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one you've constructed? *Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners" which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would possibly aid in attracting investors. The best of luck to you! ------------------------------------------ This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. *Maybe it's because I got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked. The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic point of view anyway. *I liked it's tone. Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. *It's going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers building similar boats. * *So, here's the problem. *In order to gain entry to the marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and desirable. The only option is price. The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. *You loose money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up. * Plus, it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established. I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to me there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment. Eisboch Thank you everyone for your responses. I do agree, our website is, as some of you have said, "sparse" however, that is intentional on our part. *The reason that we simplified the site is that we only wanted to provide basic information to individuals that might be interested in discussing a partnership with us. *It is not meant to answer every question, or provide a detailed business summary for everyone who views the site to read. The boat that you see pictured on the website is a generic model boat, and is not meant to be representative of what we are producing. *We do intend to completely revamp the website when appropriate, however, at this point the object of the site was simply to provide additional information to potential partners. *The initial boat that we will be producing is a 22' performance offshore boat, with sleeping arrangements, and cooking options. Our intention with this business and design is to allow a wider customization of the product by the buyer, beyond simply choosing the exterior and interior colours, and whether to include a marine radio or not. *Our buyers are able to essentially build their boat "from the ground up". *They are in total control of the entire build process from start to finish. *The only aspect that they are not able to customize is the actual hull. *The deck is fully customizable, from just a basic fiberglass deck with no windows, grab-rails, or sun deck, to a fully optioned carbon-fiber deck that is stronger then steel. *We also offer a mahogany deck for customers that are interested in the nostalgic boats of the past, with the reliability and durability that a fiberglass or carbon fiber hull provides. Based on our pricing options for the boat, we are able to offer the boat at a reduced price, while still making a sizable profit. Thank you again for all your responses, and I look forward to discussing this business opportunity with interested parties. John carbonboats at yahoo.comwww.carbonperformanceboats.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Very good, John, thanks for stepping back in and explaining some items of quesiton. |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat production facility?
"carbon performance" wrote in message ... The initial boat that we will be producing is a 22' performance offshore boat, with sleeping arrangements, and cooking options. A 22' performance "offshore boat"? Eisboch |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat production facility?
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "carbon performance" wrote in message ... The initial boat that we will be producing is a 22' performance offshore boat, with sleeping arrangements, and cooking options. A 22' performance "offshore boat"? Eisboch Close offshore? |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Apr 3, 9:11*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"carbon performance" wrote in message ... * The initial boat that we will be producing is a 22' performance offshore boat, with sleeping arrangements, and cooking options. A 22' performance "offshore boat"? Eisboch Correct. But let me clarify. The boat design is a deep v hull, capable of 5' waves. Perhaps I should not have used the "offshore" term, in the event that you were looking for something to find fault with. However, I suppose that its actually a complement that the only thing that you were able to pick at in my response was one word! I appreciate all the responses, and would again invite individuals that are actually interested in discussing this partnership (rather then trying to find something negative to write) to feel free to contact me. John carbonboats at yahoo.com www.carbonperformanceboats.com |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boat production facility?
"carbon performance" wrote in message ... On Apr 3, 9:11 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "carbon performance" wrote in message ... The initial boat that we will be producing is a 22' performance offshore boat, with sleeping arrangements, and cooking options. A 22' performance "offshore boat"? Eisboch Correct. But let me clarify. The boat design is a deep v hull, capable of 5' waves. Perhaps I should not have used the "offshore" term, in the event that you were looking for something to find fault with. However, I suppose that its actually a complement that the only thing that you were able to pick at in my response was one word! I appreciate all the responses, and would again invite individuals that are actually interested in discussing this partnership (rather then trying to find something negative to write) to feel free to contact me. John carbonboats at yahoo.com www.carbonperformanceboats.com ------------------------------------------ With all due respect, you are not making sense. You are looking for money from investors in a newsgroup, provide a link to a website that has a picture of a typical, mass produced coastal bubble boat with nothing unusual in it's design or construction, then tell us your "real" product is going to be a 22' "Offshore" performance boat. If you are for real, provide real, honest info and data. If not, you are wasting your time and ours. Eisboch |
Anyone know where we can find capital for our power boatproduction facility?
On Mar 15, 11:01*am, HK wrote:
JimH wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 11:20 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:59 am, HK wrote: carbon performance wrote: On Mar 13, 10:23 am, wrote: On Mar 13, 10:05 am, carbon performance wrote: We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering production prices for our products. If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontactmedirectl yat Yes, contact Harry Krause. He's very wealthy, just ask him. He is also very refined and cultured, just ask him. Oh, and he's very truthful and honest. I assume that since you did not provide any contact details for Harry Krause (the wealthy, refined, cultured and honest person) that you were being sarcastic? "Loogy" is the newgroup's current leader for "The Most Intellectually Challenged" Trophy.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's our Harry! If someone doesn't believe his bull**** and lies, or dares to ask him about his bull**** and lies, he'll instantly start his childish insults and name calling. It's the cultured and refined way, don't you know?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey loog.. why don't we keep the Harry bashing in house.. This guy has obviously never been involved in any of our (mine too) folly, he is just trying to make a living and start a business... Could be a great asset later when the boating season starts up if we don't scare him off.. Just my 02... ========== Why not just stop all bashing? If that occurred, about nine posters who come here only to "bash" you, me, and one or two others would have nothing to post.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And another example of the pot calling the kettle black..... |
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