OT Trying to watch a movie..
 

OT Trying to watch a movie..
 

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:06:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 6:46 pm, wrote:
Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room.
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

I've noticed that too. When I'm by muself and watching "something" on
TV I have the remote and I'm always flipping the volume between 18 and
23. sometimes the background music over rides the voices to the point
it'[s really frustrating, or a scene is in "wisper mode" for some
reason. Then comes the commercials *argh!*. I know it's been trick to
brodcst the volume of a commercial louder than the programing to get
your attention. That gets old too!

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Look in the audio setup menu for the TV. Some have an option for "auto
volume control" or similar feature.
Turn it on. It won't completely eliminate the difference in volume between
show and commercial, but it helps.

Also, some of the "virtual" surround modes cause a weak dialog volume and
strong background because it's trying to "project" a phase delayed sound to
create the phony surround sound effect. Try turning it off.


Eisboch


That's a good tip about the 'virtual modes. I'll check that. The damn
background noise makes hearing the vocal really hard!
--
John

OT Trying to watch a movie..
 

On Mar 11, 3:21*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 10, 7:53 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room.
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...
earphones. really.

How, pray tell, would earphones affect the broadcasted volume??

"Just" was complaining that the volume of the TV was interfering with
business being transacted in another room.

When you plug in earphones, it usually cuts out the sound going to the
TV set's features.

This is pretty close to the last time I shall "communicate" with you. I
hope you like crickets, because that is all you are going to get from me
from now in. You're going back in the toilet. Buh-bye.

The sound change is in the broadcast NOT the "T'V set's features". And
no, that wasn't Just's complaint. It was "volume fluctuation". This is
done via the broadcast, not the internal electronics of the set.

OT Trying to watch a movie..
 

wrote in message
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Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room.
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...


Isn't that what products from dbx do - the compression things normally used
by musicians for instruments and PA systems? It would only work, though, if
you run your TV sound through a stereo system.

Example:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--DBX266XL

If that's what the product does, it's not a terribly expensive solution.

OT Trying to watch a movie..
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:27:35 -0700, -rick- wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I forgot to mention that the frequency shift is the real reason it
sounds louder because it's different than those used in the programs.

They don't shift the frequencies, they just equalize it
different (altered frequency response) and use compression
to achieve higher average level.

I have it on very good authority that the frequency is shifted by a
few hundred Hertz.

OK... I just hadn't seen any evidence of it but I am still
occasionally teachable.

I was also thinking it would be problematic to implement a
proportional frequency shift and that a fixed shift of that
magnitude would be quite noticeable on the lowest octave or
so. It finally struck me that proportional shift is
actually quite easy to implement.

Who cares - the net effect is still annoying.

That's for sure.

OT Trying to watch a movie..
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:19:50 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:46:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room.
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

It's not the volume actually - the signal input never varies.

What changes is the frequency of the audio.

Very clever.

The frequency of the audio? Wouldn't that make the voices sound
unnatural.

I do a lot of radio station time shifting via the Internet. I like to
listen to programs from the old home town at night. I have the same
problem
with audio level differences between commercials and the programming.

I took of the files I downloaded and loaded it into Cool Edit Pro. Sure
enough, the audio amplitude level between the commercials and the
programming is significantly different.

Just my observations.

It's true. The shift is to slighty higher, sharper tones and
frequency - you really wouldn't notice it.

The other reason is that in addition to the slight frequency shift,
the audio is leveled such that it's loud all the time.

The FCC regulates how loud a commercial can be and it can be no louder
than the highest audio level reached in the show. The same with
frequency.

However, the FCC doesn't regulate the audio level for commercials - so
with the slight shift in frequency bringing sharper audio, the levels
are at the loudest level produced during the broadcast itself.

Net effect - louder commercials even though they aren't louder than
the broadcast.

Like I said, very clever.

Used to be more modulation forced the higher volume.