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Joe September 2nd 03 05:19 PM

OT...and a little bit on-topic
 

Joe,
Isn't the Princeton, IN plant that makes Sequoia's and Tundra's union?


Nope.
Harpo drives a non-union built Truck.

http://uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2003.cfm



NOYB September 2nd 03 05:28 PM

OT...and a little bit on-topic
 

"Joe" wrote in message
...

Joe,
Isn't the Princeton, IN plant that makes Sequoia's and Tundra's union?


Nope.
Harpo drives a non-union built Truck.

http://uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2003.cfm


Hehehe. No wonder my Sequoia is so well-made. And just when I was ready to
give credit to the UAW guys...






Joe September 2nd 03 05:50 PM

OT...and a little bit on-topic
 

Joe,
Isn't the Princeton, IN plant that makes Sequoia's and Tundra's union?


Nope.
Harpo drives a non-union built Truck.

http://uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2003.cfm


Hehehe. No wonder my Sequoia is so well-made. And just when I was ready

to
give credit to the UAW guys...


Check this out when you get a chance-

http://tinyurl.com/lz2s



NOYB September 2nd 03 06:04 PM

OT...and a little bit on-topic
 
Great read, Joe! It completely backs up my argument from a week or two ago:

"The long and often bitter relationship between the Big Three and the UAW
means that their work practices are rooted not in mutual trust but in a
system of sometimes picky rules. A "skilled tradesman" may be required to
change a fuse in an assembly-line machine, a task that an assembly worker
could easily be trained to perform. Work rules differ from plant to plant
because agreements are negotiated with local union leaders. If a tradesman
notices a line worker fiddling with equipment, he may file a grievance,
claiming that his job is being undercut by a lower-paid employee."



"Joe" wrote in message
...

Joe,
Isn't the Princeton, IN plant that makes Sequoia's and Tundra's

union?


Nope.
Harpo drives a non-union built Truck.

http://uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2003.cfm


Hehehe. No wonder my Sequoia is so well-made. And just when I was

ready
to
give credit to the UAW guys...


Check this out when you get a chance-

http://tinyurl.com/lz2s





Bill Cole September 2nd 03 07:05 PM

OT...and a little bit on-topic
 
Does Harry believe you should only buy Union Made products? If so I am sure
he must have checked the UAW web site before buying a non union made
product. Are you sure he drive a Tundra?

"Joe" wrote in message
...

Joe,
Isn't the Princeton, IN plant that makes Sequoia's and Tundra's union?


Nope.
Harpo drives a non-union built Truck.

http://uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2003.cfm





Joe September 2nd 03 08:01 PM

OT...and a little bit on-topic
 

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
.net...
Does Harry believe you should only buy Union Made products? If so I am

sure
he must have checked the UAW web site before buying a non union made
product. Are you sure he drive a Tundra?


Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/m002



NOYB September 2nd 03 09:36 PM

OT...and a little bit on-topic
 

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
.net...
Does Harry believe you should only buy Union Made products? If so I am

sure
he must have checked the UAW web site before buying a non union made
product. Are you sure he drive a Tundra?


Sure? How can you be sure of anything on usenet? I'm not even sure his
name is Harry...or that he owns a lobster boat. If we take him at his word,
however, then he does indeed drive a non-union Tundra.







Doug Kanter September 2nd 03 09:46 PM

OT...and a little bit on-topic
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
.net...
Does Harry believe you should only buy Union Made products? If so I am

sure
he must have checked the UAW web site before buying a non union made
product. Are you sure he drive a Tundra?


Sure? How can you be sure of anything on usenet? I'm not even sure his
name is Harry...or that he owns a lobster boat. If we take him at his

word,
however, then he does indeed drive a non-union Tundra.


What the **** is the difference? If you want a Toyota, you buy one whether
they're union made or not. If you want a piece of crap designed to drive you
mad with mickey mouse problems, you buy a Ford, GM or Chrysler product.



Doug Kanter September 2nd 03 09:49 PM

OT...and a little bit on-topic
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
If the toy was of good quality and value, chances are it was 'union

made'.


Ford's are union made, Toyota's are not.
Shoots your theory to hell.



Why is that? The dependability of most Fords, as well as most union
made in the USA cars has done nothing but go up


Probably because most manufacturing processes are automated now. Remove

the
human element, and quality and tolerances seem to always improve.


You're partially correct. Most car makers own machinery which can be set up
for excellent tolerances. Even so, bad parts get made. At that point, the
humans make the choice of whether to reject parts or use them. Among other
things, this explains why the exhaust from so many relatively new Chrysler
vans smells like they're 15 years old.



Don White September 3rd 03 01:11 AM

OT...and a little bit on-topic
 
My read is that the Toyota, Honda Nissan plants are better managed.
It's time to lay off bashing the line worker and place blame where it
belongs...the overpaid jackass running the company who is only concerned
with lining his own pockets.

Joe wrote in message
...

Joe,
Isn't the Princeton, IN plant that makes Sequoia's and Tundra's

union?


Nope.
Harpo drives a non-union built Truck.

http://uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2003.cfm


Hehehe. No wonder my Sequoia is so well-made. And just when I was

ready
to
give credit to the UAW guys...


Check this out when you get a chance-

http://tinyurl.com/lz2s






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