On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:43:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make
people responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.

"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.

You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.

No one is saying they are bad. I am saying corporate welfare is bad.
You state "We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs." What makes corporations
different? If welfare recipients become dependent on the government
teat, what makes corporations different? You think corporate welfare
makes companies leaner and meaner? Your delusional. You think corporate
welfare allows companies to employ more individuals? Your delusional.

http://www.ctj.org/html/layoffs.htm

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:40:50 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
...

Curious minds would like to know. *I'll be Don* is wondering what happened
to the Lobsta' boat too.


No..you will not "be Don"..... not now..not ever.
You'd have to fins a soul first.


I'll bet he 'be Don' before you can 'fins a soul'.

Be your own man, Don. You're old enough to do so.
--
John H

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:43:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.

"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.

You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.

Not if your dream is Socialism.
--
John H

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.



Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.

Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H

wrote:
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:43:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make
people responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.
"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.
You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.

No one is saying they are bad. I am saying corporate welfare is bad.
You state "We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs." What makes corporations
different? If welfare recipients become dependent on the government
teat, what makes corporations different? You think corporate welfare
makes companies leaner and meaner? Your delusional. You think corporate
welfare allows companies to employ more individuals? Your delusional.

http://www.ctj.org/html/layoffs.htm

What is your definition of corporate welfare?

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief
or grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.



Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.


What is the unemployment rate for each year over the last 20 years? Has
it changed dramatically? With all of the jobs going overseas why hasn't
our unemployment rate gone to 50%?

Industries come and industries go, where have all of the buggy and buggy
whip manufacturers gone?

BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:43:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make
people responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.
"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.
You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.

No one is saying they are bad. I am saying corporate welfare is bad.
You state "We need to dump entitlements and make people responsible
for their own wants and needs." What makes corporations different?
If welfare recipients become dependent on the government teat, what
makes corporations different? You think corporate welfare makes
companies leaner and meaner? Your delusional. You think corporate
welfare allows companies to employ more individuals? Your delusional.

http://www.ctj.org/html/layoffs.htm

What is your definition of corporate welfare?



This will work: money grants, tax breaks, or other special favorable
treatment from governmental entities to corporations.


http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/html/pa592/pa592index.html

"John H." wrote in message
news
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:40:50 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
m...

Curious minds would like to know. *I'll be Don* is wondering what
happened
to the Lobsta' boat too.


No..you will not "be Don"..... not now..not ever.
You'd have to fins a soul first.


I'll bet he 'be Don' before you can 'fins a soul'.

Be your own man, Don. You're old enough to do so.
--
John H


Maybe...when I get to your *age*.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.



Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.

Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H

Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an outing and
you spit in Harrys' face.

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:43:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make
people responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I
have to
pay for it.
"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.
You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other
corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax
relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.

No one is saying they are bad. I am saying corporate welfare is bad.
You state "We need to dump entitlements and make people responsible
for their own wants and needs." What makes corporations different?
If welfare recipients become dependent on the government teat, what
makes corporations different? You think corporate welfare makes
companies leaner and meaner? Your delusional. You think corporate
welfare allows companies to employ more individuals? Your delusional.

http://www.ctj.org/html/layoffs.htm

What is your definition of corporate welfare?



This will work: money grants, tax breaks, or other special favorable
treatment from governmental entities to corporations.


http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/html/pa592/pa592index.html

All tools to get the corporations to do what the government wants, why
is this a problem to you. You really are a quite a bit dim at times.