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[email protected] February 21st 08 02:51 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Feb 21, 9:44*am, "William Bruce" wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that "we're not
in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still rich, and the
barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't matter."


Harry, since you brought up the subject of employment, I'm curious. *Are you
still able to furnish those fabulous benefits for all your employees?

From a prior Harry Krause posting:

I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer *for my
staff..
I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business


* booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a
* production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of
* the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
* candidates.

* We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
* insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k,
* and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a
* share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees
* pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but
* that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks
* vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year.. In
* addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
* Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days
* of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering
* pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
* Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of
* course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
* not-for-profit enterprises.
* How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?
*
* The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those
* days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as
* yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there
* in case they're needed.

* Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.
*
* The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's
* salary for Long Term Disability. *Employes have the option of purchasing
* an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. *The basic benefit
* maximum is $4,000 per month. *With the buy up, the limit is increased to
* $10,000 per month.


Wow, quite a story, Here let me tell one.. . There were these three
bears and one golden haired chick out in the woods......;)

[email protected] February 21st 08 03:21 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Feb 21, 9:51*am, wrote:
On Feb 21, 9:44*am, "William Bruce" wrote:





Harry Krause wrote:
I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that "we're not
in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still rich, and the
barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't matter."


Harry, since you brought up the subject of employment, I'm curious. *Are you
still able to furnish those fabulous benefits for all your employees?


From a prior Harry Krause posting:


I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer *for my
staff..
I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business


* booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a
* production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of
* the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
* candidates.


* We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
* insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k,
* and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a
* share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees
* pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but
* that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks
* vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In
* addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
* Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days
* of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering
* pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
* Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of
* course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
* not-for-profit enterprises.
* How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?
*
* The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those
* days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as
* yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there
* in case they're needed.


* Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.
*
* The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's
* salary for Long Term Disability. *Employes have the option of purchasing
* an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. *The basic benefit
* maximum is $4,000 per month. *With the buy up, the limit is increased to
* $10,000 per month.


Wow, quite a story, Here let me tell one.. . There were these three
bears and one golden haired chick out in the woods......;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


it's almost as believable as a
Zimmerman like lobster boat
His Yale Degree
His Dr. Dr. wife
His father boating across the Atlantic and getting a fireboat welcome
in NY city
His solo around the horn
His sailing from S.F. to Hawaii
His father's largest marina in the northeast
His working with Prescott Bush
and on and on.....

Jim February 21st 08 04:16 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"William Bruce" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that "we're
not in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still rich, and the
barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't matter."


Harry, since you brought up the subject of employment, I'm curious. Are
you still able to furnish those fabulous benefits for all your employees?

From a prior Harry Krause posting:
I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my
staff..



I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business
booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a
production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of
the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
candidates.



We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a

401k,
and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a
share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees
pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but
that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks
vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year.

In
addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days
of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering
pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of
course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
not-for-profit enterprises.
How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?

The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those
days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as
yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're

there
in case they're needed.


Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.

The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's
salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of

purchasing
an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic

benefit
maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased

to
$10,000 per month.


Harry is a 1 man band. He doesn't have enough work to keep himself busy.
That's why he spends most of the day haunting wreck boats.

--
Harry Krause is the douchebag of political pundits. He is indeed
disgusting and nasty, and does absolutely nothing to further society.

Putting Harry in the trash is like a taking a breath of fresh air.Try it.
You might like it.


Don White February 21st 08 07:30 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 10:23 pm, Tim wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:43 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:41:16 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Feb 20, 7:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:18:25 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


Er... crack *ho' *


What does harmonic oscillation have to do with it?


Wrong ho' , Tom


Ho Chi Minh?


Him too!


No, I actually think it was Don Ho.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Tiny bubbles......



JimH[_3_] February 21st 08 09:46 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 6:07?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...
On Feb 20, 5:13?pm, "JimH" wrote:





"Chuck Gould" wrote in message


...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:


On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:


"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message


.. .


Looks like things are improving.


http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2


ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the liberal
owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we are
in
a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.


Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.


funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy was in
danger of recession as well.


stupid marxists.


Funnier still how certain right wing talk show personnel, making a
very handsome living by manipulating public opinion through the use of
broadcast media, are quick to condemn the "drive by media" for
attempting to influence public opinion. I mean really, how dare the
other voices in the media do such a thing?


Boils down to the same old standard. Propaganda with which one happens
to agree is useful, factual information offered solely in pursuit of
truth and in service to the public interests. Propaganda with which
one does *not* happen to agree is radical left or right wing bullcrap.


=========


The liberal left wing media is doing their best to make sure we go into
a
recession. ?Yep, they have our best interest at heart. ? ;-)


BTW: ?You recently had your shorts in a knot about folks posting here
OT,
most especially OT Political.


You seem to be doing your share of it recently Chuck?


What gives? ?Which stance do you really believe in?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I've decided that whatever this group of old codgers sitting around
the stove and trading insults is......it isn't a boating newsgroup.
That's what I believe. 75% of the participants here have no interest
in anything except trashing one another, and thereby ruining the group
as well.
===========================

Chuck, you want the group to be what you think it should be at any given
point of time. ? We are into the Presidential election season so your
posts
turn political and that is OK with you........for the moment. ? ?During
non
election years..........you throw a hissy fit about political OT posts.
?Go
figure.



Not, you missed my point entirely.

I now accept that the NG has been run into the ground by the posers,
flamers, and OT insult hurlers. It isn't going to come back.
Campaigning for this group to be about boating makes as much sense and
campaigning for it to be about crocheting or pig breeding.

Look around, darn few boaters left.

Boating related posts maybe 1 out of 10.

Average number of responses to a boating related post: 3-6
Average number of responses to a "you're a liberal a-hole" and "you're
conservative trash" exchanges: probably 60, with some running well
over 200.
===============

Those statistics probably hold true for many years...........nothing new
Chuck. We have a dozen or so non boaters here, all normally posting under
annonymous handles and most normally throwing flames/insults towards those
not agreeing with them.

I have seen your share of (oh so subtle) insults to those opposite of your
political views. I have also seen your share of OT political posts.

Glass house? Take a position Chuck.

So..........how is the restored boat running?






HK February 21st 08 09:48 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 6:07?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...
On Feb 20, 5:13?pm, "JimH" wrote:





"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
...
Looks like things are improving.
http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2
ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the liberal
owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we are
in
a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.
Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.
funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy was in
danger of recession as well.
stupid marxists.
Funnier still how certain right wing talk show personnel, making a
very handsome living by manipulating public opinion through the use of
broadcast media, are quick to condemn the "drive by media" for
attempting to influence public opinion. I mean really, how dare the
other voices in the media do such a thing?
Boils down to the same old standard. Propaganda with which one happens
to agree is useful, factual information offered solely in pursuit of
truth and in service to the public interests. Propaganda with which
one does *not* happen to agree is radical left or right wing bullcrap.
=========
The liberal left wing media is doing their best to make sure we go into
a
recession. ?Yep, they have our best interest at heart. ? ;-)
BTW: ?You recently had your shorts in a knot about folks posting here
OT,
most especially OT Political.
You seem to be doing your share of it recently Chuck?
What gives? ?Which stance do you really believe in?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I've decided that whatever this group of old codgers sitting around
the stove and trading insults is......it isn't a boating newsgroup.
That's what I believe. 75% of the participants here have no interest
in anything except trashing one another, and thereby ruining the group
as well.
===========================

Chuck, you want the group to be what you think it should be at any given
point of time. ? We are into the Presidential election season so your
posts
turn political and that is OK with you........for the moment. ? ?During
non
election years..........you throw a hissy fit about political OT posts.
?Go
figure.



Not, you missed my point entirely.

I now accept that the NG has been run into the ground by the posers,
flamers, and OT insult hurlers. It isn't going to come back.
Campaigning for this group to be about boating makes as much sense and
campaigning for it to be about crocheting or pig breeding.

Look around, darn few boaters left.

Boating related posts maybe 1 out of 10.

Average number of responses to a boating related post: 3-6
Average number of responses to a "you're a liberal a-hole" and "you're
conservative trash" exchanges: probably 60, with some running well
over 200.
===============

Those statistics probably hold true for many years...........nothing new
Chuck. We have a dozen or so non boaters here, all normally posting under
annonymous handles and most normally throwing flames/insults towards those
not agreeing with them.

I have seen your share of (oh so subtle) insults to those opposite of your
political views. I have also seen your share of OT political posts.

Glass house? Take a position Chuck.

So..........how is the restored boat running?







You can't even start a boating related post around here without one of
the Reggie-bots trashing it as quickly as possible.

JimH[_3_] February 21st 08 09:58 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 6:07?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...
On Feb 20, 5:13?pm, "JimH" wrote:





"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
...
Looks like things are improving.
http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2
ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the liberal
owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we are in
a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.
Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.
funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy was in
danger of recession as well.
stupid marxists.
Funnier still how certain right wing talk show personnel, making a
very handsome living by manipulating public opinion through the use of
broadcast media, are quick to condemn the "drive by media" for
attempting to influence public opinion. I mean really, how dare the
other voices in the media do such a thing?
Boils down to the same old standard. Propaganda with which one happens
to agree is useful, factual information offered solely in pursuit of
truth and in service to the public interests. Propaganda with which
one does *not* happen to agree is radical left or right wing bullcrap.
=========
The liberal left wing media is doing their best to make sure we go into
a
recession. ?Yep, they have our best interest at heart. ? ;-)
BTW: ?You recently had your shorts in a knot about folks posting here
OT,
most especially OT Political.
You seem to be doing your share of it recently Chuck?
What gives? ?Which stance do you really believe in?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I've decided that whatever this group of old codgers sitting around
the stove and trading insults is......it isn't a boating newsgroup.
That's what I believe. 75% of the participants here have no interest
in anything except trashing one another, and thereby ruining the group
as well.
===========================

Chuck, you want the group to be what you think it should be at any given
point of time. ? We are into the Presidential election season so your
posts
turn political and that is OK with you........for the moment. ? ?During
non
election years..........you throw a hissy fit about political OT posts.
?Go
figure.



Not, you missed my point entirely.

I now accept that the NG has been run into the ground by the posers,
flamers, and OT insult hurlers. It isn't going to come back.
Campaigning for this group to be about boating makes as much sense and
campaigning for it to be about crocheting or pig breeding.

Look around, darn few boaters left.

Boating related posts maybe 1 out of 10.

Average number of responses to a boating related post: 3-6
Average number of responses to a "you're a liberal a-hole" and "you're
conservative trash" exchanges: probably 60, with some running well
over 200.
===============

Those statistics probably hold true for many years...........nothing new
Chuck. We have a dozen or so non boaters here, all normally posting
under annonymous handles and most normally throwing flames/insults
towards those not agreeing with them.

I have seen your share of (oh so subtle) insults to those opposite of
your political views. I have also seen your share of OT political
posts.

Glass house? Take a position Chuck.

So..........how is the restored boat running?







You can't even start a boating related post around here without one of the
Reggie-bots trashing it as quickly as possible.


I have to be careful Harry.........if I agree with you I will be accused of
being your best bud and having sexual relations with you. :-)

This NG is/has been a virtual circus with some useful boating and other
information thrown in once and a while. We have our share of clowns
keeping us amused in between on topic and other informative discussions.

If you want entertainment...........come to rec.boats. ;-)

What else is new?



BAR February 21st 08 11:15 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
John wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
...
Looks like things are improving.
http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2
ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the liberal
owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we are
in a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.
Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.
funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy was
in
danger of recession as well.
Do you understand the differenence between "in danger of recession"
and "in a recession"? Don't bother to answer as you obviously don't.

Why don't you explain it to us, Mr. Cement Truck Driver, or whatever it
is you do for a living?
The technical definition is a drop in GNP for two consecutive quarters.
We're close, but not there yet.


I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that "we're
not in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still rich, and the
barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't matter."

The same thing was going on 8 years ago when Clinton's economy tanked in
his last year.

I don't believe it is going to fly this election cycle.

The Democrat's want to tax us to prosperity, we know how that doesn't
work.



But what ever did happen to the most famous of conservatives stances on a
"balanced budget amendment"?


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.

Don White February 21st 08 11:41 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to pay
for it.




You claim to be a christian when it suits your purposes.
Whatever happened to 'you are your brothers keeper'?



JimH[_3_] February 21st 08 11:50 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.




You claim to be a christian when it suits your purposes.
Whatever happened to 'you are your brothers keeper'?


Ever read the tale of the grasshopper and the ants?

Not to say we should not help them.........but we should not continue to
support them if they are capable of working.

The problem with govt. entitlement programs is that folks get lazy and
depend on them.

No need for anyone to live at poverty levels if they are healthy and able to
work.

Too many fat lazy ass people out their soaking the system we are paying for.



JimH[_3_] February 21st 08 11:57 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.




You claim to be a christian when it suits your purposes.
Whatever happened to 'you are your brothers keeper'?


Ever read the tale of the grasshopper and the ants?

Not to say we should not help them.........but we should not continue to
support them if they are capable of working.

The problem with govt. entitlement programs is that folks get lazy and
depend on them.

No need for anyone to live at poverty levels if they are healthy and able
to work.

Too many fat lazy ass people out there soaking the system we are paying
for.


Edit.



HK February 22nd 08 12:00 AM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
BAR wrote:
John wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
...
Looks like things are improving.
http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2
ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the
liberal owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we
are in a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.
Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.
funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed
chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy
was in
danger of recession as well.
Do you understand the differenence between "in danger of
recession" and "in a recession"? Don't bother to answer as you
obviously don't.

Why don't you explain it to us, Mr. Cement Truck Driver, or
whatever it is you do for a living?
The technical definition is a drop in GNP for two consecutive
quarters. We're close, but not there yet.


I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that
"we're not in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still
rich, and the barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't
matter."
The same thing was going on 8 years ago when Clinton's economy tanked
in his last year.

I don't believe it is going to fly this election cycle.
The Democrat's want to tax us to prosperity, we know how that doesn't
work.



But what ever did happen to the most famous of conservatives stances
on a "balanced budget amendment"?


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.



How very *Christian* of you.

"I've got mine, screw you."

JimH[_3_] February 22nd 08 12:09 AM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
BAR wrote:
John wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
...
Looks like things are improving.
http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2
ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the
liberal owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we
are in a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.
Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.
funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed
chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy
was in
danger of recession as well.
Do you understand the differenence between "in danger of recession"
and "in a recession"? Don't bother to answer as you obviously
don't.

Why don't you explain it to us, Mr. Cement Truck Driver, or whatever
it is you do for a living?
The technical definition is a drop in GNP for two consecutive
quarters. We're close, but not there yet.


I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that "we're
not in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still rich, and
the barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't matter."
The same thing was going on 8 years ago when Clinton's economy tanked
in his last year.

I don't believe it is going to fly this election cycle.
The Democrat's want to tax us to prosperity, we know how that doesn't
work.


But what ever did happen to the most famous of conservatives stances on
a "balanced budget amendment"?


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.



How very *Christian* of you.

"I've got mine, screw you."


No.......more like......

"I worked hard for mine while you lived off the tax dollars I
paid............if you are healthy, as you most likely are, get off your
friggin fat ass and get a job."

Folks are tired of paying more and more taxes to support those *who are
able* to support themselves if they got off their fat asses and got a job
(or 2).



John H.[_3_] February 22nd 08 12:35 AM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:49:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:



I have a question. If I bought you a shotgun, how much would I need to pay
your family in order to convince you to blow the back of your head off, in
front of TV cameras in the parking lot of a shopping mall? I might be
willing to work a second job just to see you do it and then pay your family
whatever we agreed on.


Sick.

Even if this were the first time for you to spout this ****, you'd be sick.
This is just the latest.

Get help.
--
John H

BAR February 22nd 08 04:15 AM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to pay
for it.




You claim to be a christian when it suits your purposes.
Whatever happened to 'you are your brothers keeper'?



I am not my brother's/son's keeper, he can get off his lazy ass and get
a job and support himself.

You seem to equate Christianity with taking care of all of the needs and
wants of others. That isn't the message. When someone needs help give
them help and when they can help themselves they need to be encouraged
to do so rather than begging from others.


BAR February 22nd 08 04:18 AM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
John wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
...
Looks like things are improving.
http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2
ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the
liberal owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we
are in a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.
Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.
funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed
chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy
was in
danger of recession as well.
Do you understand the differenence between "in danger of
recession" and "in a recession"? Don't bother to answer as you
obviously don't.

Why don't you explain it to us, Mr. Cement Truck Driver, or
whatever it is you do for a living?
The technical definition is a drop in GNP for two consecutive
quarters. We're close, but not there yet.


I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that
"we're not in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still
rich, and the barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't
matter."
The same thing was going on 8 years ago when Clinton's economy
tanked in his last year.

I don't believe it is going to fly this election cycle.
The Democrat's want to tax us to prosperity, we know how that
doesn't work.


But what ever did happen to the most famous of conservatives stances
on a "balanced budget amendment"?


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make
people responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.



How very *Christian* of you.

"I've got mine, screw you."


Nice try Krause.

Who did you screw to get that nice chunk of changes when you were
working at Ullico? Seems to me you made a killing in WorldCom. Don't you
remember that's where you got the money to buy the 36' Zimmerman like
Lobsta' boat. What happened to the Lobsta' boat? Have you sold it. Did
you sink it for the money to buy the first Parker?

Curious minds would like to know. I'll be Don is wondering what happened
to the Lobsta' boat too.

Don White February 22nd 08 01:40 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Curious minds would like to know. *I'll be Don* is wondering what happened
to the Lobsta' boat too.



No..you will not "be Don"..... not now..not ever.
You'd have to fins a soul first.



BAR February 22nd 08 01:43 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.


"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.


You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


HK February 22nd 08 01:54 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.



Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.


BAR February 22nd 08 02:00 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Curious minds would like to know. *I'll be Don* is wondering what happened
to the Lobsta' boat too.



No..you will not "be Don"..... not now..not ever.
You'd have to fins a soul first.



Curious minds would like to know. I'll bet Don is wondering what
happened to the (Harry's) Lobsta' boat too.

Well Don, has Harry offered you a ride on his Lobsta' boat?


[email protected] February 22nd 08 02:01 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:43:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make
people responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.


"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.


You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


No one is saying they are bad. I am saying corporate welfare is bad.
You state "We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs." What makes corporations
different? If welfare recipients become dependent on the government
teat, what makes corporations different? You think corporate welfare
makes companies leaner and meaner? Your delusional. You think corporate
welfare allows companies to employ more individuals? Your delusional.

http://www.ctj.org/html/layoffs.htm

John H.[_3_] February 22nd 08 02:28 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:40:50 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
...

Curious minds would like to know. *I'll be Don* is wondering what happened
to the Lobsta' boat too.



No..you will not "be Don"..... not now..not ever.
You'd have to fins a soul first.


I'll bet he 'be Don' before you can 'fins a soul'.

Be your own man, Don. You're old enough to do so.
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 22nd 08 02:29 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:43:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.


"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.


You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


Not if your dream is Socialism.
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 22nd 08 02:31 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.



Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.


Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H

BAR February 22nd 08 02:32 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:43:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make
people responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.
"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.

You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


No one is saying they are bad. I am saying corporate welfare is bad.
You state "We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs." What makes corporations
different? If welfare recipients become dependent on the government
teat, what makes corporations different? You think corporate welfare
makes companies leaner and meaner? Your delusional. You think corporate
welfare allows companies to employ more individuals? Your delusional.

http://www.ctj.org/html/layoffs.htm


What is your definition of corporate welfare?



BAR February 22nd 08 02:35 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief
or grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.



Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.


What is the unemployment rate for each year over the last 20 years? Has
it changed dramatically? With all of the jobs going overseas why hasn't
our unemployment rate gone to 50%?

Industries come and industries go, where have all of the buggy and buggy
whip manufacturers gone?




HK February 22nd 08 02:40 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:43:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make
people responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.
"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.
You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


No one is saying they are bad. I am saying corporate welfare is bad.
You state "We need to dump entitlements and make people responsible
for their own wants and needs." What makes corporations different?
If welfare recipients become dependent on the government teat, what
makes corporations different? You think corporate welfare makes
companies leaner and meaner? Your delusional. You think corporate
welfare allows companies to employ more individuals? Your delusional.

http://www.ctj.org/html/layoffs.htm


What is your definition of corporate welfare?



This will work: money grants, tax breaks, or other special favorable
treatment from governmental entities to corporations.


http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/html/pa592/pa592index.html

Don White February 22nd 08 03:10 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:40:50 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
m...

Curious minds would like to know. *I'll be Don* is wondering what
happened
to the Lobsta' boat too.



No..you will not "be Don"..... not now..not ever.
You'd have to fins a soul first.


I'll bet he 'be Don' before you can 'fins a soul'.

Be your own man, Don. You're old enough to do so.
--
John H



Maybe...when I get to your *age*.



Don White February 22nd 08 03:13 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.



Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.


Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H


Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an outing and
you spit in Harrys' face.



BAR February 22nd 08 03:18 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:43:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:21 -0500, BAR wrote:


Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make
people responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I
have to
pay for it.
"Entitlements" like these:

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://www.corporations.org/welfare/

Pay attention to where your tax dollars are going. It isn't to the
single mom struggling to raise her kids. How about $1 billion to
Walmart? $12 billion to Microsoft? The list goes on. Before I worry
about people struggling, I'd like to see some severe campaign finance
reform. IMHO, that's the problem.
You idiots, and I use the term idiots purposefully, have got to think
before you demonize corporations.

Corporations provide a place for your retirement funds to grow to
support you when you retire.

Corporations contract with other corporations.

Corporations employ individuals, individuals pay taxes.

Individuals buy things from other corporations, those other
corporations
employ individuals who pay taxes.

I am glad that corporations exist.

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax
relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.

No one is saying they are bad. I am saying corporate welfare is bad.
You state "We need to dump entitlements and make people responsible
for their own wants and needs." What makes corporations different?
If welfare recipients become dependent on the government teat, what
makes corporations different? You think corporate welfare makes
companies leaner and meaner? Your delusional. You think corporate
welfare allows companies to employ more individuals? Your delusional.

http://www.ctj.org/html/layoffs.htm


What is your definition of corporate welfare?



This will work: money grants, tax breaks, or other special favorable
treatment from governmental entities to corporations.


http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/html/pa592/pa592index.html


All tools to get the corporations to do what the government wants, why
is this a problem to you. You really are a quite a bit dim at times.

BAR February 22nd 08 03:20 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.

Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H


Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an outing and
you spit in Harrys' face.


I was one of the chosen few too Don. I had to decline due to the fact
that I was physically worn out from a neighborhood fishing trip and
other household activities that weekend. You ain't been fishing until
you been fishing with my neighbors.

HK February 22nd 08 03:32 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.

Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H


Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an outing and
you spit in Harrys' face.



Herring gave up his invitation to become a charter member of the
"Assholes Obsessed with Harry Club." I suppose if your physical
abilities are failing, as Herring's are, you have to try to live
vicariously. Are you waiting for the next report from the Diaper Cruise
to Nowhere aboard the S.S. Mickey Mouse? :}

Don White February 22nd 08 04:31 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief
or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.
Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H


Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an outing
and you spit in Harrys' face.



Herring gave up his invitation to become a charter member of the "Assholes
Obsessed with Harry Club." I suppose if your physical abilities are
failing, as Herring's are, you have to try to live vicariously. Are you
waiting for the next report from the Diaper Cruise to Nowhere aboard the
S.S. Mickey Mouse? :}


If I have to read another of his Goofy cruise reports I'll be ready to take
one.



[email protected] February 22nd 08 07:10 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:18:02 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/html/pa592/pa592index.html


All tools to get the corporations to do what the government wants, why
is this a problem to you. You really are a quite a bit dim at times.


There are other ways to get corporations to do what the government
wants. Say, pass a law.

You asked for a definition of corporate welfare, here's one: "a program
is considered Corporate Welfare if its public cost outweighs its public
benefits." I believe it's Ralph Nadar's.

I have no problems with corporations doing what they were designed to do,
but an incestuous relationship has developed between corporations and our
politicians. At the heart of it, is campaign finance.

John H.[_3_] February 22nd 08 09:02 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:13:48 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.



Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.


Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H


Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an outing and
you spit in Harrys' face.


Wrong boat. He offered me a ride on his 25' Parker (no matter what lie he
makes up). I declined because I couldn't have taken being with Harry that
long, at least not on a boat that small.

Now, if he offered to take me along on the Disney Magic, that might be
different.

No, I didn't spit in his face. Be careful, you're getting close to making
up lies to make your story better, a la JimH and Harry.

Become your own man, Don. Being a puppy is unbecoming.
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 22nd 08 09:04 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:31:30 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief
or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.
Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H

Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an outing
and you spit in Harrys' face.



Herring gave up his invitation to become a charter member of the "Assholes
Obsessed with Harry Club." I suppose if your physical abilities are
failing, as Herring's are, you have to try to live vicariously. Are you
waiting for the next report from the Diaper Cruise to Nowhere aboard the
S.S. Mickey Mouse? :}


If I have to read another of his Goofy cruise reports I'll be ready to take
one.


Have you been out on Harry's 36 footer, Don? That thing should handle the
bay chop pretty well. That's about the size many of the local charter
captains use.
--
John H

Don White February 22nd 08 11:29 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:13:48 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief
or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.



Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.

Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H


Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an outing
and
you spit in Harrys' face.


Wrong boat. He offered me a ride on his 25' Parker (no matter what lie he
makes up). I declined because I couldn't have taken being with Harry that
long, at least not on a boat that small.

Now, if he offered to take me along on the Disney Magic, that might be
different.

No, I didn't spit in his face. Be careful, you're getting close to making
up lies to make your story better, a la JimH and Harry.

Become your own man, Don. Being a puppy is unbecoming.
--
John H


Gee...it wasn't so long ago that you were Chuck's deputy sheriff. Now that
was embarrassing.... even I was embarrassed for you, the way you tagged
along trying your best to be a reasonable facsimile... but ended up just a
cheap copy.



John H.[_3_] February 22nd 08 11:36 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:29:17 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:13:48 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief
or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.



Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.

Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H

Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an outing
and
you spit in Harrys' face.


Wrong boat. He offered me a ride on his 25' Parker (no matter what lie he
makes up). I declined because I couldn't have taken being with Harry that
long, at least not on a boat that small.

Now, if he offered to take me along on the Disney Magic, that might be
different.

No, I didn't spit in his face. Be careful, you're getting close to making
up lies to make your story better, a la JimH and Harry.

Become your own man, Don. Being a puppy is unbecoming.
--
John H


Gee...it wasn't so long ago that you were Chuck's deputy sheriff. Now that
was embarrassing.... even I was embarrassed for you, the way you tagged
along trying your best to be a reasonable facsimile... but ended up just a
cheap copy.


Whoooosh!

Be your own man, Don.
--
John H

HK February 22nd 08 11:55 PM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:13:48 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax relief
or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor overseas.
Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H
Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an outing
and
you spit in Harrys' face.

Wrong boat. He offered me a ride on his 25' Parker (no matter what lie he
makes up). I declined because I couldn't have taken being with Harry that
long, at least not on a boat that small.

Now, if he offered to take me along on the Disney Magic, that might be
different.

No, I didn't spit in his face. Be careful, you're getting close to making
up lies to make your story better, a la JimH and Harry.

Become your own man, Don. Being a puppy is unbecoming.
--
John H


Gee...it wasn't so long ago that you were Chuck's deputy sheriff. Now that
was embarrassing.... even I was embarrassed for you, the way you tagged
along trying your best to be a reasonable facsimile... but ended up just a
cheap copy.



Good grief, after all these years, herring is still lying about that...

Don White February 23rd 08 01:13 AM

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:13:48 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:54:40 -0500, HK
wrote:

BAR wrote:

I am glad that the government encourages corporations, via tax
relief or
grants, to grow and expand and employ more individuals.

Corporations are good.


Our own little Gordon Gekko...how nice.

It's just wonderful that we grant welfare to corporations so they
can
shut down US operations, fire US workers and hire slave labor
overseas.
Poor Harry, never owned a share of stock, never owned any mutual fund
shares, never invested in a retirement plan owning mutual fund
shares...what a crying shame.

Of course, that lobsta' boat is probably appreciating significantly!
--
John H
Johnny...why are you so interested in Harrys' boats?
I believe you were one of the chosen few who was ever offered an
outing and
you spit in Harrys' face.

Wrong boat. He offered me a ride on his 25' Parker (no matter what lie
he
makes up). I declined because I couldn't have taken being with Harry
that
long, at least not on a boat that small.

Now, if he offered to take me along on the Disney Magic, that might be
different.

No, I didn't spit in his face. Be careful, you're getting close to
making
up lies to make your story better, a la JimH and Harry.

Become your own man, Don. Being a puppy is unbecoming.
--
John H

Gee...it wasn't so long ago that you were Chuck's deputy sheriff. Now
that was embarrassing.... even I was embarrassed for you, the way you
tagged along trying your best to be a reasonable facsimile... but ended
up just a cheap copy.


Good grief, after all these years, herring is still lying about that...


John Herring lives in a glass house.

And he continues to bring me up with lies about me.............tell those
lies enough times and folks may start to believe them.

Infatuation. The old man needs another Goofy Cruise.


Better yet, he could get a job on the Disney cruise ship and play the part
of Goofy.
If he had the endurance to stay on his feet for more than 15 minutes at a
time, he'd be a natural.




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