Boating License Required?
 

I know a lot on this board are from the States.
My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.

Boating License Required?
 

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:


I know a lot on this board are from the States.
My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.


In the US the license would be by state and that will vary. I really
only know of requirements for teenage boaters in Florida. Even then it
is just a course you could take on the BoatUS site
http://www.boatus.org/onlinecourse/
and there is another course the state recognizes online
http://www.boatingbasicsonline.com/

Those may also help you with your insurance rates


I am FL based as well but as a rule the USCG doesn't really enforce most
state or local laws. They usually just ask for
Documentation/registration and a Drivers license.
I have a masters ticket but in 20 years I have never been asked for it.

Boating License Required?
 

Eat Me, Trolls wrote:
I know a lot on this board are from the States.
My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.

Nothing is required in Georgia or most other states. Some do (may) have
them and the requirements would differ from state to state if they do.
So one would be dealing with the state water patrol I would think - if
applicable.

Capt Jack R..

Boating License Required?
 

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:

I know a lot on this board are from the States.
My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.

The CG only enforces when necessary and even then, it's only to
Federal law - local safety rules is up to what ever agency is
responsible for where you are. USCG only check for compliance with
safety rules that apply to their jurisdiction.

In CT, there is a requirement to have a Certificae of Operation which
is required to operate a boat or PWC - anythinig with an engine or
electric motor. Local and state LEO are responsible for safety, speed
and other violations within their jurisdiction. For instance, in
Stonington, CT (mystic/niantic/new london/pawcatuck), there is a local
license for kids under 16 which is the state minimum.

Other states also require something similar, but not all by any means.

I do know that in CT, if you are operating a boat under a foreign
license (like UK or EU), that is acceptable as long as it's current.
There may be local residency laws you have to pay attention to like
length of stay before you are taxed for useage (don't ask - it's a
complicated subject around here), but as far as operation goes, ifyou
are legal where you are, you are legal.

Boating License Required?
 

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:21:15 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:02:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:

I know a lot on this board are from the States.
My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.

The CG only enforces when necessary and even then, it's only to
Federal law - local safety rules is up to what ever agency is
responsible for where you are. USCG only check for compliance with
safety rules that apply to their jurisdiction.

In CT, there is a requirement to have a Certificae of Operation which
is required to operate a boat or PWC - anythinig with an engine or
electric motor. Local and state LEO are responsible for safety, speed
and other violations within their jurisdiction. For instance, in
Stonington, CT (mystic/niantic/new london/pawcatuck), there is a local
license for kids under 16 which is the state minimum.

Other states also require something similar, but not all by any means.

I do know that in CT, if you are operating a boat under a foreign
license (like UK or EU), that is acceptable as long as it's current.
There may be local residency laws you have to pay attention to like
length of stay before you are taxed for useage (don't ask - it's a
complicated subject around here), but as far as operation goes, ifyou
are legal where you are, you are legal.

Unless it changed recently, Connecticut has a two tiered PWC requires slightly
more instruction and a few more test questions) Safe Boating Certificate, and
has reciprocity with some states (NY Mass, RI.) If you are in CT waters for
more than 60 days during a calendar year, you have to have a CT safe boating
cert. Rental boats do not require you to have a Cert for rentals 2 weeks or
less. There are NO exceptions for PWC. PWC operation requires a cert no matter
where you are from or how long you are here.


I think PWC operators should be required to have a bachelor's degree in
Engineering with a concentration in Fluid Dynamics.

There'd probably be fewer of them, but they'd be a smart bunch.
--
John H

Boating License Required?
 

On Feb 18, 7:21*am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:02:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:





On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:

I know a lot on this board are from the States.
* * My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and *do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
* * Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.

The CG only enforces when necessary and even then, it's only to
Federal law - local safety rules is up to what ever agency is
responsible for where you are. *USCG only check for compliance with
safety rules that apply to their jurisdiction.

In CT, there is a requirement to have a Certificae of Operation which
is required to operate a boat or PWC - anythinig with an engine or
electric motor. *Local and state LEO are responsible for safety, speed
and other violations within their jurisdiction. *For instance, in
Stonington, CT (mystic/niantic/new london/pawcatuck), there is a local
license for kids under 16 which is the state minimum.

Other states also require something similar, but not all by any means.

I do know that in CT, if you are operating a boat under a foreign
license (like UK or EU), that is acceptable as long as it's current.
There may be local residency laws you have to pay attention to like
length of stay before you are taxed for useage (don't ask - it's a
complicated subject around here), but as far as operation goes, ifyou
are legal where you are, you are legal.

Unless it changed recently, Connecticut has a two tiered PWC requires slightly
more instruction and a few more test questions) Safe Boating Certificate, and
has reciprocity with some states (NY Mass, RI.) *If you are in CT waters for
more than 60 days during a calendar year, you have to have a CT safe boating
cert. Rental boats do not require you to have a Cert for rentals 2 weeks or
less. There are NO exceptions for PWC. PWC operation requires a cert no matter
where you are from or how long you are here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are you trying to say you can rent a boat and drive it in CT for up to
two weeks if you don't have a cert. Cause if that is what you are
saying, I suggest you are way wrong. That is one of the reasons
Chimney Point rentals went out, cause everyone driving a boat here
needs a cert... Period..

Boating License Required?
 

On Feb 18, 8:18*am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:05:57 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 18, 7:21*am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:02:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:

I know a lot on this board are from the States.
* * My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and *do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
* * Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.

The CG only enforces when necessary and even then, it's only to
Federal law - local safety rules is up to what ever agency is
responsible for where you are. *USCG only check for compliance with
safety rules that apply to their jurisdiction.

In CT, there is a requirement to have a Certificae of Operation which
is required to operate a boat or PWC - anythinig with an engine or
electric motor. *Local and state LEO are responsible for safety, speed
and other violations within their jurisdiction. *For instance, in
Stonington, CT (mystic/niantic/new london/pawcatuck), there is a local
license for kids under 16 which is the state minimum.

Other states also require something similar, but not all by any means.

I do know that in CT, if you are operating a boat under a foreign
license (like UK or EU), that is acceptable as long as it's current.
There may be local residency laws you have to pay attention to like
length of stay before you are taxed for useage (don't ask - it's a
complicated subject around here), but as far as operation goes, ifyou
are legal where you are, you are legal.

Unless it changed recently, Connecticut has a two tiered PWC requires slightly
more instruction and a few more test questions) Safe Boating Certificate, and
has reciprocity with some states (NY Mass, RI.) *If you are in CT waters for
more than 60 days during a calendar year, you have to have a CT safe boating
cert. Rental boats do not require you to have a Cert for rentals 2 weeks or
less. There are NO exceptions for PWC. PWC operation requires a cert no matter
where you are from or how long you are here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are you trying to say you can rent a boat and drive it in CT for up to
two weeks if you don't have a cert. Cause if that is what you are
saying, I suggest you are way wrong. That is one of the reasons
Chimney Point rentals went out, cause everyone driving a boat here
needs a cert... Period..

Sec 15-140e-4 *Exemption for operators of rental vessels

http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/regulations/15/15-140e-4through15-140v-...

Period!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

well, the page won't load for some reason but I suppose it is what you
say. All I can say is WOW, I never knew that, was it in the origional
law or redone later??

Boating License Required?
 

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:23:43 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 18, 8:18 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:05:57 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Feb 18, 7:21 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:02:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:

I know a lot on this board are from the States.
My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you
have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out
says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.

The CG only enforces when necessary and even then, it's only to
Federal law - local safety rules is up to what ever agency is
responsible for where you are. USCG only check for compliance with
safety rules that apply to their jurisdiction.

In CT, there is a requirement to have a Certificae of Operation
which
is required to operate a boat or PWC - anythinig with an engine or
electric motor. Local and state LEO are responsible for safety,
speed
and other violations within their jurisdiction. For instance, in
Stonington, CT (mystic/niantic/new london/pawcatuck), there is a
local
license for kids under 16 which is the state minimum.

Other states also require something similar, but not all by any
means.

I do know that in CT, if you are operating a boat under a foreign
license (like UK or EU), that is acceptable as long as it's current.
There may be local residency laws you have to pay attention to like
length of stay before you are taxed for useage (don't ask - it's a
complicated subject around here), but as far as operation goes,
ifyou
are legal where you are, you are legal.

Unless it changed recently, Connecticut has a two tiered PWC requires
slightly
more instruction and a few more test questions) Safe Boating
Certificate, and
has reciprocity with some states (NY Mass, RI.) If you are in CT
waters for
more than 60 days during a calendar year, you have to have a CT safe
boating
cert. Rental boats do not require you to have a Cert for rentals 2
weeks or
less. There are NO exceptions for PWC. PWC operation requires a cert
no matter
where you are from or how long you are here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are you trying to say you can rent a boat and drive it in CT for up to
two weeks if you don't have a cert. Cause if that is what you are
saying, I suggest you are way wrong. That is one of the reasons
Chimney Point rentals went out, cause everyone driving a boat here
needs a cert... Period..

Sec 15-140e-4 Exemption for operators of rental vessels

http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/regulations/15/15-140e-4through15-140v-...

Period!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

well, the page won't load for some reason but I suppose it is what you
say. All I can say is WOW, I never knew that, was it in the origional
law or redone later??

The page is a .pdf file. You must not have the free adobe acrobat reader
installed on your computer. You might want to get the reader, as that is
how all
the downloads for tax forms for state and federal are provided these days.
If
you go to the "publications and forms" part of the IRS website there is a
link
to download the free reader.

It was an addition to the law, dated 2004. I would have cut and pasted the
text,
but that doesn't work with PDF files.

There is a problem with the link you posted. Probably truncated when copied
and pasted.

You can copy and paste from pdf files, sometimes the formatting gets a
little hosed. Below is a short passage from my Buick manual.

Q: If I am a good driver, and I never drive far from

home, why should I wear safety belts?

A: You may be an excellent driver, but if you are in an

accident - even one that is not your fault - you

and your passengers can be hurt. Being a good

driver does not protect you from things beyond

your control, such as bad drivers.

Most accidents occur within 25 miles (40 km)

of home. And the greatest number of serious

injuries and deaths occur at speeds of less than

40 mph (65 km/h).

Safety belts are for everyone.

Boating License Required?
 

On Feb 18, 8:36*am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:23:43 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 18, 8:18*am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:05:57 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 18, 7:21*am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:02:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:

I know a lot on this board are from the States.
* * My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and *do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
* * Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.

The CG only enforces when necessary and even then, it's only to
Federal law - local safety rules is up to what ever agency is
responsible for where you are. *USCG only check for compliance with
safety rules that apply to their jurisdiction.

In CT, there is a requirement to have a Certificae of Operation which
is required to operate a boat or PWC - anythinig with an engine or
electric motor. *Local and state LEO are responsible for safety, speed
and other violations within their jurisdiction. *For instance, in
Stonington, CT (mystic/niantic/new london/pawcatuck), there is a local
license for kids under 16 which is the state minimum.

Other states also require something similar, but not all by any means.

I do know that in CT, if you are operating a boat under a foreign
license (like UK or EU), that is acceptable as long as it's current..
There may be local residency laws you have to pay attention to like
length of stay before you are taxed for useage (don't ask - it's a
complicated subject around here), but as far as operation goes, ifyou
are legal where you are, you are legal.

Unless it changed recently, Connecticut has a two tiered PWC requires slightly
more instruction and a few more test questions) Safe Boating Certificate, and
has reciprocity with some states (NY Mass, RI.) *If you are in CT waters for
more than 60 days during a calendar year, you have to have a CT safe boating
cert. Rental boats do not require you to have a Cert for rentals 2 weeks or
less. There are NO exceptions for PWC. PWC operation requires a cert no matter
where you are from or how long you are here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are you trying to say you can rent a boat and drive it in CT for up to
two weeks if you don't have a cert. Cause if that is what you are
saying, I suggest you are way wrong. That is one of the reasons
Chimney Point rentals went out, cause everyone driving a boat here
needs a cert... Period..

Sec 15-140e-4 *Exemption for operators of rental vessels

http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/regulations/15/15-140e-4through15-140v-....

Period!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

well, the page won't load for some reason but I suppose it is what you
say. All I can say is WOW, I never knew that, was it in the origional
law or redone later??

The page is a .pdf file. You must not have the free adobe acrobat reader
installed on your computer. You might want to get the reader, as that is how all
the downloads for tax forms for state and federal are provided these days. If
you go to the "publications and forms" part of the IRS website there is a link
to download the free reader.

It was an addition to the law, dated 2004. I would have cut and pasted the text,
but that doesn't work with PDF files.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

PDF file? What's that? Adobe reader, what's that? Gimme a break.. You
must be a 'puter expert of something...

Boating License Required?
 

On Feb 18, 9:09*am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:49:14 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:23:43 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 18, 8:18 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:05:57 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Feb 18, 7:21 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:02:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:

I know a lot on this board are from the States.
My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you
have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out
says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.

The CG only enforces when necessary and even then, it's only to
Federal law - local safety rules is up to what ever agency is
responsible for where you are. USCG only check for compliance with
safety rules that apply to their jurisdiction.

In CT, there is a requirement to have a Certificae of Operation
which
is required to operate a boat or PWC - anythinig with an engine or
electric motor. Local and state LEO are responsible for safety,
speed
and other violations within their jurisdiction. For instance, in
Stonington, CT (mystic/niantic/new london/pawcatuck), there is a
local
license for kids under 16 which is the state minimum.

Other states also require something similar, but not all by any
means.

I do know that in CT, if you are operating a boat under a foreign
license (like UK or EU), that is acceptable as long as it's current.

Boating License Required?
 

Boating License Required?
 

Boating License Required?
 

Boating License Required?
 

On Feb 18, 1:54*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:14 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:05:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 18, 12:48 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:53 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:54:18 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't use google groups, and my browser could not resolve that URL. I
had to drop down to Internet Exploder to resolve it. Perhaps if you'd
blow some of the snot out of your nose and be a little friendlier, your
outlook on life might change.
It may just be a vista/XP/Firefox problem. My W98 version popped it
right up.
You also use a "real" news reader. Harry can't afford one, and if he borrowed
the money and bought one, he's never be able to configure and use it in a
thousand years.
Some folks don't care to budget a newsreader, and yes, some of folks
with no insurance, terrible med problems, raising a family, taking
care of an elderly family member and paying a couple of mortgages
might just have to budget, even a frekin' news reader, you think that
is funny? I love latte liberals,, geeze, how do the poor fall for
their ****...??

I don't believe I was addressing you. Unless you are Harry, of course....

Get a frekin grip.

You're the one who is out of control, saltpeter. I think I will remind
you of it everytime you over-react here.

You just pegged the stupidometer. In fact, I think you broke it. :')- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's really too bad we all were not in the same room, this could get
funny watching you two. I hear liberals hit like girls;)

Boating License Required?
 

Boating License Required?
 

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

Mozilla-based browsers don't seem to like the URL that was offered up.
Dunno why. Got nowhere with it with Firefox, but Internet Exploder opened
it properly. I have Adobe Reader, the full Adobe Acrobat and Foxit, and
was unable to open the file with any of them via Mozilla.


Had the same result you did. Probably one of those sites that does not
follow the W3C standard.

Interesting. XP, Firefox 2.0.0.1.2, and Adobe reader 7.0
had no trouble with it here. (?)

Boating License Required?
 

On Feb 18, 3:39*pm, -rick- wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
Mozilla-based browsers don't seem to like the URL that was offered up.
Dunno why. Got nowhere with it with Firefox, but Internet Exploder opened
it properly. I have Adobe Reader, the full Adobe Acrobat and Foxit, and
was unable to open the file with any of them via Mozilla.

Had the same result you did. *Probably one of those sites that does not
follow the W3C standard.

Interesting. *XP, Firefox 2.0.0.1.2, and Adobe reader 7.0
had no trouble with it here. (?)

OK guys. Let's all step back here. Google or IE shortenes the links.
If you are not paying attention and copy and paste it, is will not
work as it is not a complete URL. that's all that happened here. I
noticed that, and just decided to accept that Salty knew what he was
talking about, I don't always have to be right here.. So, you all can
move along now, nothing to see.....

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On Feb 18, 1:58*pm, wrote:
On Feb 18, 1:54*pm, wrote:





On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:14 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:05:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 18, 12:48 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:53 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:54:18 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't use google groups, and my browser could not resolve that URL. I
had to drop down to Internet Exploder to resolve it. Perhaps if you'd
blow some of the snot out of your nose and be a little friendlier, your
outlook on life might change.
It may just be a vista/XP/Firefox problem. My W98 version popped it
right up.
You also use a "real" news reader. Harry can't afford one, and if he borrowed
the money and bought one, he's never be able to configure and use it in a
thousand years.
Some folks don't care to budget a newsreader, and yes, some of folks
with no insurance, terrible med problems, raising a family, taking
care of an elderly family member and paying a couple of mortgages
might just have to budget, even a frekin' news reader, you think that
is funny? I love latte liberals,, geeze, how do the poor fall for
their ****...??

I don't believe I was addressing you. Unless you are Harry, of course....

Get a frekin grip.

You're the one who is out of control, saltpeter. I think I will remind
you of it everytime you over-react here.

You just pegged the stupidometer. In fact, I think you broke it. :')- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's really too bad we all were not in the same room, this could get
funny watching you two. I hear liberals hit like girls;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This liberal has a black belt in Kenpo karate, and is an
instructor.......

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On Feb 18, 4:00*pm, wrote:
On Feb 18, 1:58*pm, wrote:





On Feb 18, 1:54*pm, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:14 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:05:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 18, 12:48 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:53 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:54:18 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't use google groups, and my browser could not resolve that URL. I
had to drop down to Internet Exploder to resolve it. Perhaps if you'd
blow some of the snot out of your nose and be a little friendlier, your
outlook on life might change.
It may just be a vista/XP/Firefox problem. My W98 version popped it
right up.
You also use a "real" news reader. Harry can't afford one, and if he borrowed
the money and bought one, he's never be able to configure and use it in a
thousand years.
Some folks don't care to budget a newsreader, and yes, some of folks
with no insurance, terrible med problems, raising a family, taking
care of an elderly family member and paying a couple of mortgages
might just have to budget, even a frekin' news reader, you think that
is funny? I love latte liberals,, geeze, how do the poor fall for
their ****...??

I don't believe I was addressing you. Unless you are Harry, of course...

Get a frekin grip.

You're the one who is out of control, saltpeter. I think I will remind
you of it everytime you over-react here.

You just pegged the stupidometer. In fact, I think you broke it. :')- Hide quoted text -

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It's really too bad we all were not in the same room, this could get
funny watching you two. I hear liberals hit like girls;)- Hide quoted text -

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This liberal has a black belt in Kenpo karate, and is an
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You familiar with Leo Wilson out on Green Mtn in Ala..??

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On Feb 18, 12:59*pm, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:45:22 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:32:49 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:17:52 -0500, HK
wrote:

wrote:
On Feb 18, 8:36 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:23:43 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Feb 18, 8:18 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:05:57 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Feb 18, 7:21 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:02:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:
I know a lot on this board are from the States.
* * My question is... In the States, those who operate
boats and *do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG
say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
* * Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement
that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being
handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG
would say.
The CG only enforces when necessary and even then, it's
only to
Federal law - local safety rules is up to what ever agency is
responsible for where you are. *USCG only check for
compliance with
safety rules that apply to their jurisdiction.
In CT, there is a requirement to have a Certificae of
Operation which
is required to operate a boat or PWC - anythinig with an
engine or
electric motor. *Local and state LEO are responsible for
safety, speed
and other violations within their jurisdiction. *For
instance, in
Stonington, CT (mystic/niantic/new london/pawcatuck),
there is a local
license for kids under 16 which is the state minimum.
Other states also require something similar, but not all
by any means.
I do know that in CT, if you are operating a boat under a
foreign
license (like UK or EU), that is acceptable as long as
it's current.
There may be local residency laws you have to pay
attention to like
length of stay before you are taxed for useage (don't ask
- it's a
complicated subject around here), but as far as operation
goes, ifyou
are legal where you are, you are legal.
Unless it changed recently, Connecticut has a two tiered
PWC requires slightly
more instruction and a few more test questions) Safe
Boating Certificate, and
has reciprocity with some states (NY Mass, RI.) *If you are
in CT waters for
more than 60 days during a calendar year, you have to have
a CT safe boating
cert. Rental boats do not require you to have a Cert for
rentals 2 weeks or
less. There are NO exceptions for PWC. PWC operation
requires a cert no matter
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Are you trying to say you can rent a boat and drive it in CT
for up to
two weeks if you don't have a cert. Cause if that is what
you are
saying, I suggest you are way wrong. That is one of the reasons
Chimney Point rentals went out, cause everyone driving a
boat here
needs a cert... Period..
Sec 15-140e-4 *Exemption for operators of rental vessels
http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/regulations/15/15-140e-4through15-140v-...

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well, the page won't load for some reason but I suppose it is
what you
say. All I can say is WOW, I never knew that, was it in the
origional
law or redone later??
The page is a .pdf file. You must not have the free adobe
acrobat reader
installed on your computer. You might want to get the reader,
as that is how all
the downloads for tax forms for state and federal are provided
these days. If
you go to the "publications and forms" part of the IRS website
there is a link
to download the free reader.

It was an addition to the law, dated 2004. I would have cut and
pasted the text,
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PDF file? What's that? Adobe reader, what's that? Gimme a
break.. You
must be a 'puter expert of something...
Mozilla-based browsers don't seem to like the URL that was
offered up. Dunno why. Got nowhere with it with Firefox, but
Internet Exploder opened it properly. I have Adobe Reader, the
full Adobe Acrobat and Foxit, and was unable to open the file
with any of them via Mozilla.

I use Firefox and have absolutely no trouble with PDF's. Sounds
like a personal
problem.

What are you, Loogy's father? Are you assuming that because you use
Firefox and have no issue, all your settings in every aspect of
every program that relates to clicking on a URL and opening it are
the same as all of my settings?

Keee-rist. We are drowning in simple-minded idiots.
Lets not lose sight of the fact that it's YOU that's having a
problem, not me. I
guess that establishes you as the simple-minded idiot.

*I* am not having a problem with the URL, my Firefox set-up is, and
with that URL alone. If it bothered me enough, I'd track down the
reason and either change a setting or send in a problem report. But
since I don't rent boats in Connecticut, I don't give a sh*t.

Boink.

BTW, I am not the only Firefox user who reported the problem. Suck on
that for a while.

I know you think you are special and unique, but that doesn't mean I ever
thought you were the only one having the problem. Your endless claims of
superior computer knowlege may have made folkscome *to expect that you
at least
know the basics. Guess not.

Everything you add here makes you look dumber and dumber. Did you read
my response? If the problem bothered me enough, I would track it down
and resolve it. But the problem didn't bother me enough, so I didn't
bother with it.

Here it is, the I don't care about it anymore because I am getting my
ass kicked.

Try responding to the information in the post to which you are
responding, else you look as stupid as your son, Loogy.

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Harry feels the need to try and insult me. He does that to anyone who
dare mention his many, many lies and the fact that he acts like a name
calling child and a nasty old man all at the same time.

Lobster boat?
Hatteras?
Dad went transatlantic in a 20' runabout and got a fireboat welcome in
NY?
Single handed around the horn?
Sailed from S.F. to Hawaii?
Wouldn't one think that there would be newspaper articles, pictures,
etc. of such incredible things and feats?

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:21:15 -0500, wrote:

Unless it changed recently, Connecticut has a two tiered PWC requires slightly
more instruction and a few more test questions) Safe Boating Certificate, and
has reciprocity with some states (NY Mass, RI.)

Um...well, depends on how you look at it.

Yes, it is a two tiered system - no, it's not longer or more test
questions - it's the exact same course you take for boating and the
exact same exam - typical for CT - only the names are changed to
protect the innocent. Even the course material is the same.

This two tiered system was thought up by state senator, now President
Pro Tem of the Senate and Chief in Charge of Bad Ideas Donald
Williams. I will not proffer my opinion on the relative worthyness of
State Senator Williams's ability to do anything more complicated than
tie his shoes properly.

And, if you know the right PWC dealer, it's done in four hours.

If you are in CT waters for
more than 60 days during a calendar year, you have to have a CT safe boating
cert. Rental boats do not require you to have a Cert for rentals 2 weeks or
less.

Technically, that's true, but not if you are certified by another
state and reside in that state. If you come into CT from another
state that doesn't have the certification process, then you have sixty
days.

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On Feb 18, 5:19*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:21:15 -0500, wrote:
Unless it changed recently, Connecticut has a two tiered PWC requires slightly
more instruction and a few more test questions) Safe Boating Certificate, and
has reciprocity with some states (NY Mass, RI.) *

Um...well, depends on how you look at it.

Yes, it is a two tiered system - no, it's not longer or more test
questions - it's the exact same course you take for boating and the
exact same exam - typical for CT - only the names are changed to
protect the innocent. *Even the course material is the same.

This two tiered system was thought up by state senator, now President
Pro Tem of the Senate and Chief in Charge of Bad Ideas Donald
Williams. *I will not proffer my opinion on the relative worthyness of
State Senator Williams's ability to do anything more complicated than
tie his shoes properly.

And, if you know the right PWC dealer, it's done in four hours.

If you are in CT waters for
more than 60 days during a calendar year, you have to have a CT safe boating
cert. Rental boats do not require you to have a Cert for rentals 2 weeks or
less.

Technically, that's true, but not if you are certified by another
state and reside in that state. *If you come into CT from another
state that doesn't have the certification process, then you have sixty
days.

That's just nuts.. We have to take a course and pay the money, but
folks who may not have ever boated get 60 days?? Crazy, just a tax is
all it is, and they are trying real hard to regiseter human or sail
powered boats, they say it's a "homeland security" issue.

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:05:25 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 18, 12:48*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:53 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:54:18 -0500, HK wrote:

I don't use google groups, and my browser could not resolve that URL. I
had to drop down to Internet Exploder to resolve it. Perhaps if you'd
blow some of the snot out of your nose and be a little friendlier, your
outlook on life might change.

It may just be a vista/XP/Firefox problem. My W98 version popped it
right up.

You also use a "real" news reader. Harry can't afford one, and if he borrowed
the money and bought one, he's never be able to configure and use it in a
thousand years.

Some folks don't care to budget a newsreader, and yes, some of folks
with no insurance, terrible med problems, raising a family, taking
care of an elderly family member and paying a couple of mortgages
might just have to budget, even a frekin' news reader, you think that
is funny? I love latte liberals,, geeze, how do the poor fall for
their ****...??

Just, if you'd like an older version of Agent, which I've used for ages,
I'd be glad to send it to you.
--
John H

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:29:47 -0500, wrote:

Not true. Call the DEP yourself and ask if you don't want to believe me.

It's is true. Direct from the boating course.

"Reciprocity

The Connecticut Safe Boating Certificate and the Certificate of
Personal Watercraft Operation are accepted in many states. Connecticut
recognizes certificates from New York, Massachusetts and Rhode
Island for use upon our waters. Adherence to Connecticut state law
remains the responsibility of the boater."

So if you are from New York, Massachuetts and Rhode Island (and I
believe New Jersey and Pennsylvania this year) you are not required to
obtain a certificate even if you operate in CT waters over 60 days.

Also, the courses - direct from my Instructor's Guide:

"Approved Boating Courses

You will notice that there are three types of basic boating courses
that are offered throughout the state:

1. Combined basic boating and personal watercraft class.This 8-hour
class qualifies you for a CPWO or SBC.

2. Basic boating class. This 8-hour class qualifies for SBC only.

3. Personal watercraft course. This 21/2-hour class along with the
basic boating class, qualify you for a CPWO. By itself, the class may
qualify you for a temporary CPWO."

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:39:34 -0500, wrote:


As I said, you are incorrect and should verify it from the horses mouth if you
don't want to take my word for it.

I don't have to verify anything. I know the law and I know the
interpretations.

How you interpret it is your problem.

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hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:19:24 -0500, HK wrote:

I bought Agent many years ago for about the price of a good bottle of
whiskey and never looked back. Sometimes it is worthwhile having a
licensed copy of a commercial product. If for nothing else, you are
supporting the guy who wrote it. You can also get support when you
have a problem. I got a free upgrade when yenc files showed up.

I have a licensed copy of Agent, albeit a version a few years old. I
don't like it now, and I didn't like it then. I am more than happy
with Thunderbird for email and newsgroups.

The thing I like about Agent is it is not "installed". You just run it
from the EXE and it would probably run from a CD if you assigned
working areas on oxide.
I can load my agent directory on another machine, run it and then just
delete the directory and it is gone. I keep two iinstances on this
machine, one for binaries and one for text.



I don't download or upload binaries.

I use portable Firefox and portable Thunderbird from a USB key.

My aren't you the technologist. Why is a news group's contents so
important to you?

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BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:19:24 -0500, HK wrote:

I bought Agent many years ago for about the price of a good bottle of
whiskey and never looked back. Sometimes it is worthwhile having a
licensed copy of a commercial product. If for nothing else, you are
supporting the guy who wrote it. You can also get support when you
have a problem. I got a free upgrade when yenc files showed up.

I have a licensed copy of Agent, albeit a version a few years old. I
don't like it now, and I didn't like it then. I am more than happy
with Thunderbird for email and newsgroups.

The thing I like about Agent is it is not "installed". You just run it
from the EXE and it would probably run from a CD if you assigned
working areas on oxide.
I can load my agent directory on another machine, run it and then just
delete the directory and it is gone. I keep two iinstances on this
machine, one for binaries and one for text.



I don't download or upload binaries.

I use portable Firefox and portable Thunderbird from a USB key.

My aren't you the technologist. Why is a news group's contents so
important to you?



Forget to take your smart pill again, d.f.?

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hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:19:24 -0500, HK wrote:

I bought Agent many years ago for about the price of a good bottle of
whiskey and never looked back. Sometimes it is worthwhile having a
licensed copy of a commercial product. If for nothing else, you are
supporting the guy who wrote it. You can also get support when you
have a problem. I got a free upgrade when yenc files showed up.

I have a licensed copy of Agent, albeit a version a few years old.
I don't like it now, and I didn't like it then. I am more than
happy with Thunderbird for email and newsgroups.

The thing I like about Agent is it is not "installed". You just run it
from the EXE and it would probably run from a CD if you assigned
working areas on oxide.
I can load my agent directory on another machine, run it and then just
delete the directory and it is gone. I keep two iinstances on this
machine, one for binaries and one for text.



I don't download or upload binaries.

I use portable Firefox and portable Thunderbird from a USB key.

My aren't you the technologist. Why is a news group's contents so
important to you?



Forget to take your smart pill again, d.f.?

That's Mr. Dumfoch Dropout to you!

I'll ask the question again. Why is a newsgroup's content so important
to you that you carry around a thumb drive with a newsreader and its
configuration files?

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:09:51 -0500, wrote:

Usually not true. PDF pages are essentially images, not free, editable text. You
would need the full version of acrobat, not the free reader to do anything with
the text in the PDF to which I posted the link.

You might be surprised.

Do a "right click" on the document and "select all". Paste to a
notepad file, and select out what you want:

===========
Sec. 15-140e-4. Exemption for operators of rental vessels.
Any operator of a vessel rented for a period of fourteen days or less
from a person or organization engaged in the business of commercial
rental of vessels, who claims exemption from safe boating certificate
requirements pursuant to subsection (d) of Section 15-140e of the
Connecticut General Statutes, shall carry on board such vessel the
original or a copy of the written agreement for such rental stating
the period of such rental and the identity of the lessee. Any such
operator shall produce such rental agreement upon demand of any
enforcement officer identified in Section 15-154 of the Connecticut
General Statutes.
[March 9, 2004 (Secretary of State File Number (SOSFN): 5496)]
=============

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"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:19:24 -0500, HK wrote:

I bought Agent many years ago for about the price of a good bottle
of
whiskey and never looked back. Sometimes it is worthwhile having a
licensed copy of a commercial product. If for nothing else, you are
supporting the guy who wrote it. You can also get support when you
have a problem. I got a free upgrade when yenc files showed up.

I have a licensed copy of Agent, albeit a version a few years old. I
don't like it now, and I didn't like it then. I am more than happy
with Thunderbird for email and newsgroups.

The thing I like about Agent is it is not "installed". You just run it
from the EXE and it would probably run from a CD if you assigned
working areas on oxide.
I can load my agent directory on another machine, run it and then just
delete the directory and it is gone. I keep two iinstances on this
machine, one for binaries and one for text.



I don't download or upload binaries.

I use portable Firefox and portable Thunderbird from a USB key.

My aren't you the technologist. Why is a news group's contents so
important to you?



Forget to take your smart pill again, d.f.?

That's Mr. Dumfoch Dropout to you!

I'll ask the question again. Why is a newsgroup's content so important to
you that you carry around a thumb drive with a newsreader and its
configuration files?

And here's Hairball's answer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEK22iup4Zg

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wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:19:03 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:09:51 -0500, wrote:

Usually not true. PDF pages are essentially images, not free, editable
text. You
would need the full version of acrobat, not the free reader to do
anything with
the text in the PDF to which I posted the link.

You might be surprised.

Do a "right click" on the document and "select all". Paste to a
notepad file, and select out what you want:


It wasn't working on my home computer. I (incorrectly) assumed that the
pages
were simply image scans of pages, which are really "pictures" and not
editable.
That is sometimes the case.
I was using version 5 of Acrobat Reader. I upgraded to version 8 and those
pages
are now editable.


You can't "edit" the pdf files with Acrobat Reader, but you can copy/paste.

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Jim wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:19:24 -0500, HK
wrote:

I bought Agent many years ago for about the price of a good
bottle of
whiskey and never looked back. Sometimes it is worthwhile having a
licensed copy of a commercial product. If for nothing else, you are
supporting the guy who wrote it. You can also get support when you
have a problem. I got a free upgrade when yenc files showed up.

I have a licensed copy of Agent, albeit a version a few years
old. I don't like it now, and I didn't like it then. I am more
than happy with Thunderbird for email and newsgroups.

The thing I like about Agent is it is not "installed". You just
run it
from the EXE and it would probably run from a CD if you assigned
working areas on oxide.
I can load my agent directory on another machine, run it and then
just
delete the directory and it is gone. I keep two iinstances on this
machine, one for binaries and one for text.



I don't download or upload binaries.

I use portable Firefox and portable Thunderbird from a USB key.

My aren't you the technologist. Why is a news group's contents so
important to you?



Forget to take your smart pill again, d.f.?

That's Mr. Dumfoch Dropout to you!

I'll ask the question again. Why is a newsgroup's content so important
to you that you carry around a thumb drive with a newsreader and its
configuration files?

And here's Hairball's answer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEK22iup4Zg

That was funny.

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"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:19:03 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:09:51 -0500, wrote:

Usually not true. PDF pages are essentially images, not free, editable
text. You
would need the full version of acrobat, not the free reader to do
anything with
the text in the PDF to which I posted the link.
You might be surprised.

Do a "right click" on the document and "select all". Paste to a
notepad file, and select out what you want:


It wasn't working on my home computer. I (incorrectly) assumed that the
pages
were simply image scans of pages, which are really "pictures" and not
editable.
That is sometimes the case.
I was using version 5 of Acrobat Reader. I upgraded to version 8 and
those pages
are now editable.


No, they are not. You can copy and paste, but you cannot edit a *.PDF
document with Adobe Reader.

Your PC clock needs attention.

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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:19:03 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:09:51 -0500, wrote:

Usually not true. PDF pages are essentially images, not free, editable
text. You
would need the full version of acrobat, not the free reader to do
anything with
the text in the PDF to which I posted the link.
You might be surprised.

Do a "right click" on the document and "select all". Paste to a
notepad file, and select out what you want:

It wasn't working on my home computer. I (incorrectly) assumed that the
pages
were simply image scans of pages, which are really "pictures" and not
editable.
That is sometimes the case.
I was using version 5 of Acrobat Reader. I upgraded to version 8 and
those pages
are now editable.

No, they are not. You can copy and paste, but you cannot edit a *.PDF
document with Adobe Reader.

Your PC clock needs attention.



Yeah...I just noticed that and fixed it. Thanks.

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