Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am looking at
purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty
and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with
rubber stubber, and then an extra on board.

Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am looking at
purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty
and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with
rubber stubber, and then an extra on board.

Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?


Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands.

But don't they get "picked" by splinters on the dock?

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am looking at
purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty
and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with
rubber stubber, and then an extra on board.

Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?


Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands.
--
John H

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am looking at
purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty
and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with
rubber stubber, and then an extra on board.

Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?


Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands.

But don't they get "picked" by splinters on the dock?

Never noticed the problem. Never even heard about it until just now.
--
John H

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

Braided would provide enhanced strength and flexabllity.

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am looking at
purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty
and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with
rubber stubber, and then an extra on board.

Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?


Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands.

But don't they get "picked" by splinters on the dock?

Never noticed the problem. Never even heard about it until just now.
--
John H

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

Tim wrote:
Braided would provide enhanced strength and flexabllity.

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am looking at
purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty
and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with
rubber stubber, and then an extra on board.

Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?

Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands.
But don't they get "picked" by splinters on the dock?
Never noticed the problem. Never even heard about it until just now.
--
John H



Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of
3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on
the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my
back-up anchor.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:14:29 -0500, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:
Braided would provide enhanced strength and flexabllity.

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am looking at
purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty
and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with
rubber stubber, and then an extra on board.

Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?

Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands.
But don't they get "picked" by splinters on the dock?
Never noticed the problem. Never even heard about it until just now.
--
John H



Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of
3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on
the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my
back-up anchor.

I also keep four or five different colors of the different types. You never
know what color dock you're going to be tieing up to, especially at
restaurants.
--
John H

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

On Feb 16, 11:14*am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Braided would provide enhanced strength and flexabllity.

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. *I am looking at
purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty
and stiff. *I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with
rubber stubber, and then an extra on board.

Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?

Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands.
But don't they get "picked" *by splinters on the dock?
Never noticed the problem. Never even heard about it until just now.
--
John H

Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of
3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on
the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my
back-up anchor.- Hide quoted text -

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What do you use on your Zimmerman like lobster boat?

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

HK wrote:



Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of
3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on
the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my
back-up anchor.

Well, I'm a trailer boater so I don't really have much need for the
finest of dock lines. But even when temporarily looping to a dock, I
use ski line and that's about it. But I do have a braided tow line
kept up in the bow. The tow line is much more flexable, and easy ont
he hands.

When I had my 27' Chris Craft, though. it was moored on the lake for a
summer. I used braided for it. I will agree that braided is more
tender and if you snag it on something it can pull and tear, but the
docks were new and in great shape then, with nothing to snag of any
signifigance. So, I would suppose it is to each their own.

6 one way and half a dozen the other.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

wrote:

Braid has a nicer "hand" but I like 3 lay because I know how to splice
it. You can splice eyes in braid but it is a lot harder to do and I am
lazy. ;-)

I really don't have a problem with splicing either one. Of course my
ways may be crued but efficient. Tie on the eye or clasp. make a
couple loose knots taking the remainder of the line and threading it
though the knots. Pull tight, then wrap the knots in duct tape.

simple!

?;^ )

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

Tim wrote:

HK wrote:


Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of
3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on
the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my
back-up anchor.

Well, I'm a trailer boater so I don't really have much need for the
finest of dock lines. But even when temporarily looping to a dock, I
use ski line and that's about it. But I do have a braided tow line
kept up in the bow. The tow line is much more flexable, and easy ont
he hands.

When I had my 27' Chris Craft, though. it was moored on the lake for a
summer. I used braided for it. I will agree that braided is more
tender and if you snag it on something it can pull and tear, but the
docks were new and in great shape then, with nothing to snag of any
signifigance. So, I would suppose it is to each their own.

6 one way and half a dozen the other.


Well, it isn't as if I go out and buy dock lines. All the ones I have
now I spliced up from anchor lines I have owned and destroyed over the
years. My braided dock lines are the "remains" of a 1/2" braided anchor
line from my last Sea Pro, which I brought here from Florida. The only
braided non-fishing line I have bought recently was for the fender-bumpers.

I'm working on splicing up a towline from another leftover anchor line.
Never know when you might come across a *decent* fellow "rec.boater" out
on the Bay whose ETEC has crapped out and who needs a tow. :-)

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

Tim wrote:

wrote:
Braid has a nicer "hand" but I like 3 lay because I know how to splice
it. You can splice eyes in braid but it is a lot harder to do and I am
lazy. ;-)

I really don't have a problem with splicing either one. Of course my
ways may be crued but efficient. Tie on the eye or clasp. make a
couple loose knots taking the remainder of the line and threading it
though the knots. Pull tight, then wrap the knots in duct tape.

simple!

?;^ )


Ahhh...the famous "Southern splice." Where did you learn it?

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

On Feb 16, 1:02*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
Braid has a nicer "hand" but I like 3 lay because I know how to splice
it. You can splice eyes in braid but it is a lot harder to do and I am
lazy. *;-)

I really don't have a problem with splicing either one. Of course my
ways may be crued but efficient. *Tie on the eye or clasp. make a
couple loose knots taking the remainder of the line and threading it
though the knots. Pull tight, *then wrap the knots in duct tape.

simple!

?;^ )

Ahhh...the famous "Southern splice." Where did you learn it?

Well, around here it's pretty popular, especially with the jon boat
crowd.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

Tim wrote:
On Feb 16, 1:02 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
Braid has a nicer "hand" but I like 3 lay because I know how to splice
it. You can splice eyes in braid but it is a lot harder to do and I am
lazy. ;-)
I really don't have a problem with splicing either one. Of course my
ways may be crued but efficient. Tie on the eye or clasp. make a
couple loose knots taking the remainder of the line and threading it
though the knots. Pull tight, then wrap the knots in duct tape.
simple!
?;^ )
Ahhh...the famous "Southern splice." Where did you learn it?

Well, around here it's pretty popular, especially with the jon boat
crowd.


To be a regulation Southern Splice, you have to use yellow waterski line.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on something,
it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues until you have a
bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard, one set twist, one
set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier on
the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms ripped it
to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the dealer tossed in
a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of 3/8" line. I
replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on the hands (the
palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my back-up anchor.


3 strand twisted is best for anchor lines. We are talking about dock lines.




Braided is easy on the hands. When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you
move around alot from spot to spot, and might drop and raise your anchor
50 times in a day. That's why I used braided.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the
dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of
3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on
the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my
back-up anchor.

3 strand twisted is best for anchor lines. We are talking about dock
lines.

Braided is easy on the hands. When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you
move around alot from spot to spot, and might drop and raise your anchor
50 times in a day. That's why I used braided.

Gotcha!

In that case you need to get a windlass for that new boat of yours. It will
save your hands and your back. ;-)



I've got a bow roller, which works fine, and an anchor buoy and line rig
to raise it when it gets stuck. It's a fairly light anchor and doesn't
require much to raise it. Besides, in the course of a day's fishing
around here, I don't lower and raise the anchor all that much. I prefer
just drift fishing or sight fishing, which doesn't require anchoring.

I have been working on some lightweight trolling rigs, though, just to
see if I can make it a bit more interesting for me.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:28:13 -0500, HK wrote:

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on something,
it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues until you have a
bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard, one set twist, one
set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier on
the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms ripped it
to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the dealer tossed in
a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of 3/8" line. I
replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on the hands (the
palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my back-up anchor.


3 strand twisted is best for anchor lines. We are talking about dock lines.




Braided is easy on the hands. When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you
move around alot from spot to spot, and might drop and raise your anchor
50 times in a day. That's why I used braided.

Let's see...eight hours on the water, 50 dropping and raising, that means
you're moving about every 9.6 minutes or so.

That's some fast fishing!
--
John H

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:47:42 -0500, HK wrote:

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the
dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of
3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on
the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my
back-up anchor.

3 strand twisted is best for anchor lines. We are talking about dock
lines.

Braided is easy on the hands. When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you
move around alot from spot to spot, and might drop and raise your anchor
50 times in a day. That's why I used braided.

Gotcha!

In that case you need to get a windlass for that new boat of yours. It will
save your hands and your back. ;-)



I've got a bow roller, which works fine, and an anchor buoy and line rig
to raise it when it gets stuck. It's a fairly light anchor and doesn't
require much to raise it. Besides, in the course of a day's fishing
around here, I don't lower and raise the anchor all that much. I prefer
just drift fishing or sight fishing, which doesn't require anchoring.

I have been working on some lightweight trolling rigs, though, just to
see if I can make it a bit more interesting for me.

Go out with Wayne. You'll learn all you need to know about lightweight
trolling rigs. And you'll feel right at home on his Parker.
--
John H

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote
In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines.
Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?

I'm sticking with 3-strand nylon. It's more elastic than braided rope, and
for dock lines that's a definite advantage. Being easier on the wallet, it's
likely to be replaced more regularly, which is another good thing in a dock
line. It's true braid is easier on the hands, but I don't handle my mooring
lines enough for that to be an issue.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

Ernest Scribbler wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote
In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines.
Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?

I'm sticking with 3-strand nylon. It's more elastic than braided rope, and
for dock lines that's a definite advantage. Being easier on the wallet, it's
likely to be replaced more regularly, which is another good thing in a dock
line. It's true braid is easier on the hands, but I don't handle my mooring
lines enough for that to be an issue.




For many of us, it matters not whether docklines are braid or twist.
Hell, I remember splicing manila rope.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the
dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200'
of 3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is
easier on the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is
attached to my back-up anchor.

3 strand twisted is best for anchor lines. We are talking about dock
lines.
Braided is easy on the hands. When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you
move around alot from spot to spot, and might drop and raise your anchor
50 times in a day. That's why I used braided.
Gotcha!

In that case you need to get a windlass for that new boat of yours. It
will save your hands and your back. ;-)
I've got a bow roller, which works fine, and an anchor buoy and line rig
to raise it when it gets stuck. It's a fairly light anchor and doesn't
require much to raise it. Besides, in the course of a day's fishing around
here, I don't lower and raise the anchor all that much. I prefer just
drift fishing or sight fishing, which doesn't require anchoring.

I have been working on some lightweight trolling rigs, though, just to see
if I can make it a bit more interesting for me.

What sort of depths do you fish in?




It depends. When anchoring for fishing, typically, around here, 15-35
feet, sometimes a bit more. On the east side of the Bay, where I look
for flounder, sometimes 12 feet or less. You need to find some
structure, hopefully near live oyster beds, but not near enough to have
your anchor plop down on them.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:14:29 -0500, HK wrote:

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida.

Real men and real boats anchor with chain.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:14:29 -0500, HK wrote:

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida.

Real men and real boats anchor with chain.



As usual, Whine, you are full of crap.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Braided would provide enhanced strength and flexabllity.

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is
Here wrote:

In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am
looking at
purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy,
dirty
and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat
with
rubber stubber, and then an extra on board.

Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?

Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands.
But don't they get "picked" by splinters on the dock?
Never noticed the problem. Never even heard about it until just now.
--
John H



Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock.

Sure you do.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of
3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on
the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my
back-up anchor.


More BS from the King...

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:14:29 -0500, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:
Braided would provide enhanced strength and flexabllity.

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am looking at
purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty
and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with
rubber stubber, and then an extra on board.

Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines?

Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands.
But don't they get "picked" by splinters on the dock?
Never noticed the problem. Never even heard about it until just now.
--
John H


Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of
3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on
the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my
back-up anchor.

I also keep four or five different colors of the different types. You never
know what color dock you're going to be tieing up to, especially at
restaurants.

You should have a minimum of five. Blue is great for seafood joints.
Black is the best for gassing up.

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"John H." wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:47:42 -0500, HK wrote:

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on
something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues
until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard,
one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the
dock.

Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much
easier
on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms
ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the
dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200'
of
3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier
on
the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to
my
back-up anchor.

3 strand twisted is best for anchor lines. We are talking about dock
lines.

Braided is easy on the hands. When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you
move around alot from spot to spot, and might drop and raise your
anchor
50 times in a day. That's why I used braided.

Gotcha!

In that case you need to get a windlass for that new boat of yours. It
will
save your hands and your back. ;-)



I've got a bow roller, which works fine, and an anchor buoy and line rig
to raise it when it gets stuck. It's a fairly light anchor and doesn't
require much to raise it. Besides, in the course of a day's fishing
around here, I don't lower and raise the anchor all that much. I prefer
just drift fishing or sight fishing, which doesn't require anchoring.

I have been working on some lightweight trolling rigs, though, just to
see if I can make it a bit more interesting for me.

Go out with Wayne. You'll learn all you need to know about lightweight
trolling rigs. And you'll feel right at home on his Parker.
--
John H

You get a 'finders fee' for sending business Waynes' way?

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On Feb 16, 4:26*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 16, 1:02 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
Braid has a nicer "hand" but I like 3 lay because I know how to splice
it. You can splice eyes in braid but it is a lot harder to do and I am
lazy. *;-)
I really don't have a problem with splicing either one. Of course my
ways may be crued but efficient. *Tie on the eye or clasp. make a
couple loose knots taking the remainder of the line and threading it
though the knots. Pull tight, *then wrap the knots in duct tape.
simple!
?;^ )
Ahhh...the famous "Southern splice." Where did you learn it?

Well, around here it's pretty popular, especially with the jon boat
crowd.

To be a regulation Southern Splice, you have to use yellow waterski line.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well that counts me out. My ski line is blue and red ...I think.

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Tim wrote:
On Feb 16, 4:26 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 16, 1:02 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
wrote:
Braid has a nicer "hand" but I like 3 lay because I know how to splice
it. You can splice eyes in braid but it is a lot harder to do and I am
lazy. ;-)
I really don't have a problem with splicing either one. Of course my
ways may be crued but efficient. Tie on the eye or clasp. make a
couple loose knots taking the remainder of the line and threading it
though the knots. Pull tight, then wrap the knots in duct tape.
simple!
?;^ )
Ahhh...the famous "Southern splice." Where did you learn it?
Well, around here it's pretty popular, especially with the jon boat
crowd.
To be a regulation Southern Splice, you have to use yellow waterski line.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well that counts me out. My ski line is blue and red ...I think.


Déclassé - get the yellow. :)

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On Feb 16, 7:47*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 16, 4:26 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 16, 1:02 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
wrote:
Braid has a nicer "hand" but I like 3 lay because I know how to splice
it. You can splice eyes in braid but it is a lot harder to do and I am
lazy. *;-)
I really don't have a problem with splicing either one. Of course my
ways may be crued but efficient. *Tie on the eye or clasp. make a
couple loose knots taking the remainder of the line and threading it
though the knots. Pull tight, *then wrap the knots in duct tape.
simple!
?;^ )
Ahhh...the famous "Southern splice." Where did you learn it?
Well, around here it's pretty popular, especially with the jon boat
crowd.
To be a regulation Southern Splice, you have to use yellow waterski line.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well that counts me out. My ski line is blue and red ...I think.

Déclassé - get the yellow. * :)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

thaks for the heads up! yellow is now on my wish list.

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For many of us, it matters not whether docklines are braid or twist.
Hell, I remember splicing manila rope.

Do you also remember claiming:
1. To be a Yale graduate
2. To have owned a Hatteras
3. To be married to a medical doctor
4. To own a Zimmerman-like lobster boat?

Cheers, Old Boy. Many dreams of yesteryear.

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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:36:10 -0500, HK wrote:

As usual, Whine, you are full of crap.

No wine before its time.

Real men and real boats anchor with chain. Braid is for LT wussy
boats.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:36:10 -0500, HK wrote:

As usual, Whine, you are full of crap.

No wine before its time.

Real men and real boats anchor with chain. Braid is for LT wussy
boats.


Yeah? Try that along the edges of the ICW, when you are trying to anchor
as quietly as possible so you can sneak a bait up to tailing redfish 20
yards away. Oh, wait...you can't *do* that with that barge of an
floating RV of yours...you'd run hard aground. Too bad.

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Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:11:15 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:28:13 -0500, HK wrote:

When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you
move around alot from spot to spot, and might drop and raise your anchor
50 times in a day.

Another reason I don't fish ;-)

That's not fishing. That's playing with an anchor.

--Vic

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On 16-Feb-2008, HK wrote:

For many of us, it matters not whether docklines are braid or twist.
Hell, I remember splicing manila rope.

I MISS splicing manila - the plastic stuff is a pain.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:36:10 -0500, HK wrote:

As usual, Whine, you are full of crap.

No wine before its time.

Real men and real boats anchor with chain. Braid is for LT wussy
boats.


Yeah? Try that along the edges of the ICW, when you are trying to anchor
as quietly as possible so you can sneak a bait up to tailing redfish 20
yards away. Oh, wait...you can't *do* that with that barge of an
floating RV of yours...you'd run hard aground. Too bad.

Harry,
You really are sounding EXACTLY like Skipper when he would make silly
comparisons between his perfect boat and other peoples boat.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:28:13 -0500, HK wrote:

When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you move around alot from spot
to spot, and might drop and raise your anchor 50 times in a day.

Another reason I don't fish ;-)


It's great fun...you get to raise and lower a trolling motor, too.

Harry,
It is hard to imagine how you raised and lowered your motor 50 times
when you went out fishing. You were never away from your computer
longer than 1 hr.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

Steve wrote:
On 16-Feb-2008, HK wrote:

For many of us, it matters not whether docklines are braid or twist.
Hell, I remember splicing manila rope.

I MISS splicing manila - the plastic stuff is a pain.


Yeah, it is. I've never gotten to like it for splicing. Manilla was far
easier to "work" when you were splicing it.

Cordage - 3 strand vs Braided Dock Lines
 

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:54:40 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:28:13 -0500, HK wrote:

When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you move around alot from spot
to spot, and might drop and raise your anchor 50 times in a day.

Another reason I don't fish ;-)


It's great fun...you get to raise and lower a trolling motor, too.

Harry,
It is hard to imagine how you raised and lowered your motor 50 times
when you went out fishing. You were never away from your computer
longer than 1 hr.

In an eight hour fishing trip, he raised and lowered his anchor about every
9.6 minutes. Now, if it only took a minute to lower and set, and a minute
to raise, that left 7.6 minutes for fishing at that location. Personally, I
think it would be too damn hectic a way to fish!
--
John H