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Ernest Scribbler wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines? I'm sticking with 3-strand nylon. It's more elastic than braided rope, and for dock lines that's a definite advantage. Being easier on the wallet, it's likely to be replaced more regularly, which is another good thing in a dock line. It's true braid is easier on the hands, but I don't handle my mooring lines enough for that to be an issue. For many of us, it matters not whether docklines are braid or twist. Hell, I remember splicing manila rope. |
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard, one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock. Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of 3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my back-up anchor. 3 strand twisted is best for anchor lines. We are talking about dock lines. Braided is easy on the hands. When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you move around alot from spot to spot, and might drop and raise your anchor 50 times in a day. That's why I used braided. Gotcha! In that case you need to get a windlass for that new boat of yours. It will save your hands and your back. ;-) I've got a bow roller, which works fine, and an anchor buoy and line rig to raise it when it gets stuck. It's a fairly light anchor and doesn't require much to raise it. Besides, in the course of a day's fishing around here, I don't lower and raise the anchor all that much. I prefer just drift fishing or sight fishing, which doesn't require anchoring. I have been working on some lightweight trolling rigs, though, just to see if I can make it a bit more interesting for me. What sort of depths do you fish in? It depends. When anchoring for fishing, typically, around here, 15-35 feet, sometimes a bit more. On the east side of the Bay, where I look for flounder, sometimes 12 feet or less. You need to find some structure, hopefully near live oyster beds, but not near enough to have your anchor plop down on them. |
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:14:29 -0500, HK wrote:
Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. Real men and real boats anchor with chain. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:14:29 -0500, HK wrote: Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. Real men and real boats anchor with chain. As usual, Whine, you are full of crap. |
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HK wrote:
Tim wrote: Braided would provide enhanced strength and flexabllity. John H. wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am looking at purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with rubber stubber, and then an extra on board. Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines? Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands. But don't they get "picked" by splinters on the dock? Never noticed the problem. Never even heard about it until just now. -- John H Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard, one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock. Sure you do. Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of 3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my back-up anchor. More BS from the King... |
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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:14:29 -0500, HK wrote: Tim wrote: Braided would provide enhanced strength and flexabllity. John H. wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: In the past I have always used 3 stranded dock lines. I am looking at purchasing new dock lines because my old ones are getting moldy, dirty and stiff. I keep one set attached to my dock cut to fit my boat with rubber stubber, and then an extra on board. Is there any advantage to paying the extra price for braided lines? Yes. They roll up nicely, and they feel much better on the hands. But don't they get "picked" by splinters on the dock? Never noticed the problem. Never even heard about it until just now. -- John H Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard, one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock. Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of 3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my back-up anchor. I also keep four or five different colors of the different types. You never know what color dock you're going to be tieing up to, especially at restaurants. You should have a minimum of five. Blue is great for seafood joints. Black is the best for gassing up. |
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![]() "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:47:42 -0500, HK wrote: JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Tim, braided line has a nice "hand" to it, but when it snags on something, it can tear out a little, and the deterioration continues until you have a bit of a mess. I keep two sets of dock lines aboard, one set twist, one set braided, and use the line appropriate to the dock. Used to carry an anchor with braided line in Florida. It's much easier on the hands when pulling up the line, but the rough shell bottoms ripped it to shreds in short order. When I bought son of Yo Ho, the dealer tossed in a kit that included a Danforth-style anchor and 200' of 3/8" line. I replaced that line with 1/2" twist because it is easier on the hands (the palms, mainly) than 3/8". Now, the 3/8" is attached to my back-up anchor. 3 strand twisted is best for anchor lines. We are talking about dock lines. Braided is easy on the hands. When you fish the ICW in NE Florida, you move around alot from spot to spot, and might drop and raise your anchor 50 times in a day. That's why I used braided. Gotcha! In that case you need to get a windlass for that new boat of yours. It will save your hands and your back. ;-) I've got a bow roller, which works fine, and an anchor buoy and line rig to raise it when it gets stuck. It's a fairly light anchor and doesn't require much to raise it. Besides, in the course of a day's fishing around here, I don't lower and raise the anchor all that much. I prefer just drift fishing or sight fishing, which doesn't require anchoring. I have been working on some lightweight trolling rigs, though, just to see if I can make it a bit more interesting for me. Go out with Wayne. You'll learn all you need to know about lightweight trolling rigs. And you'll feel right at home on his Parker. -- John H You get a 'finders fee' for sending business Waynes' way? |
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On Feb 16, 4:26*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Feb 16, 1:02 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: wrote: Braid has a nicer "hand" but I like 3 lay because I know how to splice it. You can splice eyes in braid but it is a lot harder to do and I am lazy. *;-) I really don't have a problem with splicing either one. Of course my ways may be crued but efficient. *Tie on the eye or clasp. make a couple loose knots taking the remainder of the line and threading it though the knots. Pull tight, *then wrap the knots in duct tape. simple! ?;^ ) Ahhh...the famous "Southern splice." Where did you learn it? Well, around here it's pretty popular, especially with the jon boat crowd. To be a regulation Southern Splice, you have to use yellow waterski line.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well that counts me out. My ski line is blue and red ...I think. |
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Tim wrote:
On Feb 16, 4:26 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Feb 16, 1:02 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: wrote: Braid has a nicer "hand" but I like 3 lay because I know how to splice it. You can splice eyes in braid but it is a lot harder to do and I am lazy. ;-) I really don't have a problem with splicing either one. Of course my ways may be crued but efficient. Tie on the eye or clasp. make a couple loose knots taking the remainder of the line and threading it though the knots. Pull tight, then wrap the knots in duct tape. simple! ?;^ ) Ahhh...the famous "Southern splice." Where did you learn it? Well, around here it's pretty popular, especially with the jon boat crowd. To be a regulation Southern Splice, you have to use yellow waterski line.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well that counts me out. My ski line is blue and red ...I think. Déclassé - get the yellow. :) |
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On Feb 16, 7:47*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Feb 16, 4:26 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Feb 16, 1:02 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: wrote: Braid has a nicer "hand" but I like 3 lay because I know how to splice it. You can splice eyes in braid but it is a lot harder to do and I am lazy. *;-) I really don't have a problem with splicing either one. Of course my ways may be crued but efficient. *Tie on the eye or clasp. make a couple loose knots taking the remainder of the line and threading it though the knots. Pull tight, *then wrap the knots in duct tape. simple! ?;^ ) Ahhh...the famous "Southern splice." Where did you learn it? Well, around here it's pretty popular, especially with the jon boat crowd. To be a regulation Southern Splice, you have to use yellow waterski line.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well that counts me out. My ski line is blue and red ...I think. Déclassé - get the yellow. * :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - thaks for the heads up! yellow is now on my wish list. |
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