On Feb 19, 1:49*pm, wrote:
On Feb 19, 1:31*pm, "Sam" wrote:





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On Feb 19, 12:06 pm, "Sam" wrote: wrote in message

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On Feb 18, 4:42 pm, "Sam" wrote:

The bump draft is alive and well, 3 and 4 wide racing all day long,

The bump draft is relatively new and disliked by the majority of drivers.
It
was even illegal for most of NASCAR's history.

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You're kidding, right?? If you really knew, then you'd know that bump
drafting was around a long, long time ago.
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Not in it's current incarnation. Until recently, if you bumped the person in
front of you on every lap you would have eventually been black flagged, or
fined.

If it's blatant and wreckless they still will.







They (and I ) would much rather see the cars with more horsepower to put
the emphasis on driver
ability, and not whether or not someone is behind you to push you down the
track.

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And because they are all on the playing field, they'd still be
drafting and bump drafting. They'd just be doing it at speeds greater
than they are now.
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They would be going faster down the straightway, and would actually have to
lift off the gas/use brakes and plan entry angles prior to the corners. At
this point they come into the turns wide open, never need brakes, and it is
virtually impossible to overdrive the car into the corner unless there is a
problem.

Not true at all. If there is a car anywhere around them, they'll lift.
They have to when they don't have the whole racetrack. In the old days
when they'd be single file, THAT was boring. Three and four wide is as
exciting as it gets. Hell, ask the old timers like DW and they'll tell
you as much.



The drivers go around Daytona with their foot to the floor for the whole
race and there is virtually no difference between straightaway speeds and
speeds in the turns (boring). Hell, they were going 20-30 miles an hour
around the track 10-20 years ago.

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Bull****. Drag alone makes the cars drop 15 miles an hour or so in the
corners.
*---------------------------------------------------------------------------**--------Mid to high 180's down the stretch and *low to mid 180's in the cornersdoesn't add up to 15 mph in my book.-

True, but that's not the speed in race trim.

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And they lift more than you think they do. More of it has todo with
handling than horsepower. Daytona's quite bumpy and always hasbeen.
Not too terribly long ago they didn't have the shock/springtechnology
nor front steer cars. The speed were kept down by having tolift in the
corners. Now with the teams able to use front or rearsteer cars,
incredible advances in shock technology, coil binding iscommon, the
seven post machine making it possible to test cars in alab under
actually races conditions for different tracks. and the listgoes
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They *do not* lift off the gas at Daytona unless there is a problem
with thecar or they're about to run someone over.

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Hey Loogie, if the guy don't like racin' let him go... no biggie.