Yo, Freakin
 

On Feb 17, 8:55*pm, "JimH" wrote:
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On Feb 17, 8:37 pm, "JimH" wrote:





"HK" wrote in message

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wrote:
On Feb 17, 7:49 pm, HK wrote:

It's a great idea...the race just stops dead on the track for five
minutes of commerical messages every ten minutes. That way, the fans
don't miss any of the high speed left turn only action!- Hide quoted
text -

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Although I know you don't care I will say this once.. The technology
available in a race car now leaves a driver more on the edge than in
any other sport. Handling the car takes the stamina of a long distance
runner, and the timing and control of a professional pitcher, golfer,
tennis player, or shooter for that matter.. all at 190 mph with any
one of 20-30 other guys who are just as tuned and trained as you are.
Split second timing, a quick light touch on several controls, the
ability to make life or death decisions, all come into play, with
concequences for mistakes like no other sport in the world... But you
can dismiss it all you want, I love it...

I'm not dismissing the skill or balls it takes to drive in NASCAR. I
just
think it dull compared to sports car road racing or Formula 1 racing and
overly commercialized. Frankly, I found "Bike Week" in Daytona far more
entertaining than the two NASCAR races I attended at the speedway. But
that's just me.

Bike Week at Daytona.......topless chicks..........

Yep, it is far more entertaining and interesting than watching cars
turning
left any day..........unless your last name is Herring. ;-)- Hide quoted
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I was gonna' say, Harry likes the boobs.. and NASCAR tries to keep it
a little more family.. I see the bead thing going on at Indy races,
but not so much Sprint cup. I like most kinds of racin' been to Indy a
couple of times as well as Limerock and Stafford for the really short
tracks. Got to drive a Corvette pace car at Waterford several years
ago when I worked for Chevy, Mrs. JW was right behind me in a Camaro
before the start;)
============

One cannot appreciate the speed of NASCAR unless you stand near the
barricade at a straightaway. *Only then can you appreciate the skill of the
drivers and the power of the cars.

Having said that, nothing beats the Bike Week show the chicks on the strip
put on. *;-)- Hide quoted text -

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Actually I prefer the drunken but more uh, more freindly neighborly
crowd at the Indianapolis 500...

Yo, Freakin
 

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NASCAR tries to keep it
a little more family.. .

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I guess you never spent a night in the infield................

Yo, Freakin
 

On Feb 17, 9:26*pm, "Sam" wrote:
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NASCAR tries to keep it
a little more family.. .

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I guess you never spent a night in the infield................

The snakepit...

Yo, Freakin
 

On Feb 17, 8:55*pm, "JimH" wrote:
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On Feb 17, 8:37 pm, "JimH" wrote:





"HK" wrote in message

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wrote:
On Feb 17, 7:49 pm, HK wrote:

It's a great idea...the race just stops dead on the track for five
minutes of commerical messages every ten minutes. That way, the fans
don't miss any of the high speed left turn only action!- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Although I know you don't care I will say this once.. The technology
available in a race car now leaves a driver more on the edge than in
any other sport. Handling the car takes the stamina of a long distance
runner, and the timing and control of a professional pitcher, golfer,
tennis player, or shooter for that matter.. all at 190 mph with any
one of 20-30 other guys who are just as tuned and trained as you are.
Split second timing, a quick light touch on several controls, the
ability to make life or death decisions, all come into play, with
concequences for mistakes like no other sport in the world... But you
can dismiss it all you want, I love it...

I'm not dismissing the skill or balls it takes to drive in NASCAR. I
just
think it dull compared to sports car road racing or Formula 1 racing and
overly commercialized. Frankly, I found "Bike Week" in Daytona far more
entertaining than the two NASCAR races I attended at the speedway. But
that's just me.

Bike Week at Daytona.......topless chicks..........

Yep, it is far more entertaining and interesting than watching cars
turning
left any day..........unless your last name is Herring. ;-)- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

I was gonna' say, Harry likes the boobs.. and NASCAR tries to keep it
a little more family.. I see the bead thing going on at Indy races,
but not so much Sprint cup. I like most kinds of racin' been to Indy a
couple of times as well as Limerock and Stafford for the really short
tracks. Got to drive a Corvette pace car at Waterford several years
ago when I worked for Chevy, Mrs. JW was right behind me in a Camaro
before the start;)
============

One cannot appreciate the speed of NASCAR unless you stand near the
barricade at a straightaway. *Only then can you appreciate the skill of the
drivers and the power of the cars.

Having said that, nothing beats the Bike Week show the chicks on the strip
put on. *;-)- Hide quoted text -

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You're getting like Harry. Nothing happening at home so you have to
get your thrills seeing a little T&A? You two act like 12 year olds.

Yo, Freakin
 

On Feb 17, 8:37*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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wrote:
On Feb 17, 7:49 pm, HK wrote:

It's a great idea...the race just stops dead on the track for five
minutes of commerical messages every ten minutes. That way, the fans
don't miss any of the high speed left turn only action!- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Although I know you don't care I will say this once.. The technology
available in a race car now leaves a driver more on the edge than in
any other sport. Handling the car takes the stamina of a long distance
runner, and the timing and control of a professional pitcher, golfer,
tennis player, or shooter for that matter.. all at 190 mph with any
one of 20-30 other guys who are just as tuned and trained as you are.
Split second timing, a quick light touch on several controls, the
ability to make life or death decisions, all come into play, with
concequences for mistakes like no other sport in the world... But you
can dismiss it all you want, I love it...

I'm not dismissing the skill or balls it takes to drive in NASCAR. I just
think it dull compared to sports car road racing or Formula 1 racing and
overly commercialized. Frankly, I found "Bike Week" in Daytona far more
entertaining than the two NASCAR races I attended at the speedway. But
that's just me.

Bike Week at Daytona.......topless chicks..........

Yep, it is far more entertaining and interesting than watching cars turning
left any day..........unless your last name is Herring. * ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you truly understood the dynamics of racing, you'd find it
interesting.

Yo, Freakin
 

On Feb 17, 7:49*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 17, 7:39 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 17, 6:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 17, 2:15 pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:03:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 17, 10:30 am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:56:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 16, 12:36 pm, wrote:
On Feb 16, 12:25 pm, wrote:
On Feb 15, 8:49 pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:09:13 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Feb 15, 6:13 pm, wrote:
On Feb 15, 1:30 pm, wrote:
Catch the truck race tonight if possible. I watched the Daytona truck
race last year and it was unbelievable! Those guys race there guts out
trying to make a name for themselves, as well as to try to beat the
old timers that are there.
Oh yeah, I finally decided to have a 12 YO show me how to use the
alarm on my phone;)
My POS cable provider does not carry speed on my package.. this sucks..
Holy ****! I read this, turned on the race, the damn pickups start smacking
the **** out of each other, and one goes down the track looking like a
friggin' meteor!
They went to a commercial, but there were a bunch of wrecked pickups at
Daytona. Hopefully no one got hurt.
--
John H
Yep, that's racin'!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I do get todays race on espn2... I think I get speed too if I screw
with the settings to decode the other cable input.. Did it once but we
ended up with some porn and reversed our direction on the settings.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Gentleman, START YOUR .............ENGINES!!!!!
Got some baby backs ready for the smoker.....will be done at the drop
of the green flag!
Loogy, I know what I'm about to tell you may sound like heresy, but you
might give it a try.
Cook some ribs in a crockpot. Spread the sauce on 'em, put 'em in the pot,
and cook for about 8-9 hours on low.
Good eating. Not as good as BBQ'd, but more tender and not bad. A good way
to cook 'em if you don't want to mess with cooking much.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
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Well, actually what I do is kind of sort of similar. I put my rub on
the ribs, smoke at 200F for about 3 hours, then slather the sauce on
them, wrap in aluminum foil, back on the smoker (or a 200F oven) for
another hour or so. They are very tender that way, you have to watch
out, they'll get so tender when you pick up a bone, the meat falls
right off.
That way will produce great ribs, but it requires your presence. The
crockpot way allows you to be gone for eight hours or so.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
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16 to go, who do you all think is going to win?? I am still looking at
Smoke..
The sponsors, who hesitatingly interrupt their presentations to their
audience for a few laps of racing.
Do they stop the race for commercials like they stop NFL games? * :)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
No, now go back to your ferin' movin' picture...;)
Well, they will stop the races for commercial messages if you guys
bitched enough. That's what happened with NFL commercial
"interruptions." Why should NASCAR couch potatoes be second class citizens?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hold on there little varmint you... I gotta' scratch a private place
and suck down a beer. hic..

It's a great idea...the race just stops dead on the track for five
minutes of commerical messages every ten minutes. That way, the fans
don't miss any of the high speed left turn only action!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you think that the only thing a driver has to do is turn left,
you're ignorant.

Yo, Freakin
 

On Feb 17, 7:39*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 17, 6:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 17, 2:15 pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:03:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 17, 10:30 am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:56:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 16, 12:36 pm, wrote:
On Feb 16, 12:25 pm, wrote:
On Feb 15, 8:49 pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:09:13 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Feb 15, 6:13 pm, wrote:
On Feb 15, 1:30 pm, wrote:
Catch the truck race tonight if possible. I watched the Daytona truck
race last year and it was unbelievable! Those guys race there guts out
trying to make a name for themselves, as well as to try to beat the
old timers that are there.
Oh yeah, I finally decided to have a 12 YO show me how to use the
alarm on my phone;)
My POS cable provider does not carry speed on my package.. this sucks..
Holy ****! I read this, turned on the race, the damn pickups start smacking
the **** out of each other, and one goes down the track looking like a
friggin' meteor!
They went to a commercial, but there were a bunch of wrecked pickups at
Daytona. Hopefully no one got hurt.
--
John H
Yep, that's racin'!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I do get todays race on espn2... I think I get speed too if I screw
with the settings to decode the other cable input.. Did it once but we
ended up with some porn and reversed our direction on the settings.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Gentleman, START YOUR .............ENGINES!!!!!
Got some baby backs ready for the smoker.....will be done at the drop
of the green flag!
Loogy, I know what I'm about to tell you may sound like heresy, but you
might give it a try.
Cook some ribs in a crockpot. Spread the sauce on 'em, put 'em in the pot,
and cook for about 8-9 hours on low.
Good eating. Not as good as BBQ'd, but more tender and not bad. A good way
to cook 'em if you don't want to mess with cooking much.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well, actually what I do is kind of sort of similar. I put my rub on
the ribs, smoke at 200F for about 3 hours, then slather the sauce on
them, wrap in aluminum foil, back on the smoker (or a 200F oven) for
another hour or so. They are very tender that way, you have to watch
out, they'll get so tender when you pick up a bone, the meat falls
right off.
That way will produce great ribs, but it requires your presence. The
crockpot way allows you to be gone for eight hours or so.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
16 to go, who do you all think is going to win?? I am still looking at
Smoke..
The sponsors, who hesitatingly interrupt their presentations to their
audience for a few laps of racing.

Do they stop the race for commercials like they stop NFL games? * :)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, now go back to your ferin' movin' picture...;)

Well, they will stop the races for commercial messages if you guys
bitched enough. That's what happened with NFL commercial
"interruptions." Why should NASCAR couch potatoes be second class citizens?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Go watch you're Drew Carey reruns.

Yo, Freakin
 

On Feb 17, 2:11*pm, wrote:
On Feb 17, 1:56*pm, wrote:





On Feb 17, 12:27*pm, wrote:

On Feb 17, 12:03*pm, wrote:

On Feb 17, 10:30*am, John H. wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:56:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 16, 12:36*pm, wrote:
On Feb 16, 12:25*pm, wrote:

On Feb 15, 8:49*pm, John H. wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:09:13 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 15, 6:13*pm, wrote:
On Feb 15, 1:30*pm, wrote:

Catch the truck race tonight if possible. I watched the Daytona truck
race last year and it was unbelievable! Those guys race there guts out
trying to make a name for themselves, as well as to try to beat the
old timers that are there.

Oh yeah, I finally decided to have a 12 YO show me how to use the
alarm on my phone;)

My POS cable provider does not carry speed on my package.. this sucks..

Holy ****! I read this, turned on the race, the damn pickups start smacking
the **** out of each other, and one goes down the track looking like a
friggin' meteor!

They went to a commercial, but there were a bunch of wrecked pickups at
Daytona. Hopefully no one got hurt.
--
John H

Yep, that's racin'!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do get todays race on espn2... I think I get speed too if I screw
with the settings to decode the other cable input.. Did it once but we
ended up with some porn and reversed our direction on the settings.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Gentleman, START YOUR .............ENGINES!!!!!

Got some baby backs ready for the smoker.....will be done at the drop
of the green flag!

Loogy, I know what I'm about to tell you may sound like heresy, but you
might give it a try.

Cook some ribs in a crockpot. Spread the sauce on 'em, put 'em in the pot,
and cook for about 8-9 hours on low.

Good eating. Not as good as BBQ'd, but more tender and not bad. A good way
to cook 'em if you don't want to mess with cooking much.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, actually what I do is kind of sort of similar. I put my rub on
the ribs, smoke at 200F for about 3 hours, then slather the sauce on
them, wrap in aluminum foil, back on the smoker (or a 200F oven) for
another hour or so. They are very tender that way, you have to watch
out, they'll get so tender when you pick up a bone, the meat falls
right off.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I guarantee if you brought your temp down to 170 from 200 they would
do just fine.. When I am done smoking Kielbasa it is still pink in the
middle, throws folks off sometimes, but it is cool to eat.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

200 works just fine! I've actually won local contests with my ribs.
One once with my butts, too. It's actually kind of hard to find raw
(not precooked) Kielbasa around here. One butcher I know carries it so
I get a bunch every time I go in the place.
I've got to think about getting another smoker, mine has had many
hundreds of pounds of meat cooked on it and has seen better days. I
like it though, because I can fit half of a small hog on it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have brought immigrant Polish to tears with my kielbasa... "Just
like my mom used to make in the old country" is usually muttered at
one point or another. I make it myself, along with a couple of pretty
good sausage recipes too.. But the kielbasa recipe and smoker both
provided by my father in law do the deed well..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'd like to try making some. I make venison sausage every year.

Yo, Freakin
 

On Feb 18, 1:39*pm, wrote:
On Feb 18, 1:31*pm, wrote:





On Feb 18, 8:30*am, wrote:

On Feb 17, 2:11*pm, wrote:

On Feb 17, 1:56*pm, wrote:

On Feb 17, 12:27*pm, wrote:

On Feb 17, 12:03*pm, wrote:

On Feb 17, 10:30*am, John H. wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:56:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 16, 12:36*pm, wrote:
On Feb 16, 12:25*pm, wrote:

On Feb 15, 8:49*pm, John H. wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:09:13 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 15, 6:13*pm, wrote:
On Feb 15, 1:30*pm, wrote:

Catch the truck race tonight if possible. I watched the Daytona truck
race last year and it was unbelievable! Those guys race there guts out
trying to make a name for themselves, as well as to try to beat the
old timers that are there.

Oh yeah, I finally decided to have a 12 YO show me how to use the
alarm on my phone;)

My POS cable provider does not carry speed on my package.. this sucks..

Holy ****! I read this, turned on the race, the damn pickups start smacking
the **** out of each other, and one goes down the track looking like a
friggin' meteor!

They went to a commercial, but there were a bunch of wrecked pickups at
Daytona. Hopefully no one got hurt.
--
John H

Yep, that's racin'!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do get todays race on espn2... I think I get speed too if I screw
with the settings to decode the other cable input.. Did it once but we
ended up with some porn and reversed our direction on the settings.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Gentleman, START YOUR .............ENGINES!!!!!

Got some baby backs ready for the smoker.....will be done at the drop
of the green flag!

Loogy, I know what I'm about to tell you may sound like heresy, but you
might give it a try.

Cook some ribs in a crockpot. Spread the sauce on 'em, put 'em in the pot,
and cook for about 8-9 hours on low.

Good eating. Not as good as BBQ'd, but more tender and not bad. A good way
to cook 'em if you don't want to mess with cooking much.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, actually what I do is kind of sort of similar. I put my rub on
the ribs, smoke at 200F for about 3 hours, then slather the sauce on
them, wrap in aluminum foil, back on the smoker (or a 200F oven) for
another hour or so. They are very tender that way, you have to watch
out, they'll get so tender when you pick up a bone, the meat falls
right off.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I guarantee if you brought your temp down to 170 from 200 they would
do just fine.. When I am done smoking Kielbasa it is still pink in the
middle, throws folks off sometimes, but it is cool to eat.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

200 works just fine! I've actually won local contests with my ribs..
One once with my butts, too. It's actually kind of hard to find raw
(not precooked) Kielbasa around here. One butcher I know carries it so
I get a bunch every time I go in the place.
I've got to think about getting another smoker, mine has had many
hundreds of pounds of meat cooked on it and has seen better days. I
like it though, because I can fit half of a small hog on it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have brought immigrant Polish to tears with my kielbasa... "Just
like my mom used to make in the old country" is usually muttered at
one point or another. I make it myself, along with a couple of pretty
good sausage recipes too.. But the kielbasa recipe and smoker both
provided by my father in law do the deed well..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'd like to try making some. I make venison sausage every year.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I feel badly that I can not share the recipe yet, as I usually share
any recipe except this one and my shrimp scampi. I am just like that,
I share great fishing spots too;) ****es some of my buds off;) Sounds
funny but I promised my FIL that I would not pass the recipe along,
even to my own kids until he was "gone". That was the deal for the
recipe and the homemade smoker. I was only the second person he ever
let watch him make it, the other was a relative in Poland, decades
ago... I don't really know why but I think he always dreamed of going
into the business.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I've got a lot of recipes that my aunt, who raised me, made. She
didn't need recipes they were in her head, and she couldn't really
tell you you had to watch! It amazes me to this day. Her corn fritters
were the best thing in the world!- Hide quoted text -

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ummmm corn fritters, sometimes I do miss Alabama...BBQ from Krystal,
and the hic next door who showed me fried green maters.. And there
were the block parties and the wildcat liquor from the commune just
over the line up in Tennesse. They just don't do block parties up here
much...too bad.

Yo, Freakin
 

On Feb 18, 1:52*pm, "JimH" wrote:
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I have brought immigrant Polish to tears with my kielbasa...
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Were they crying for you because it is so small?? * *;-)

Hey!? :O

hey...

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