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D.Duck[_2_] February 17th 08 07:41 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:58:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:59 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

My day was great. I spent some bucks on fishing gear, and my wife
bought
me some new "resort" clothes for my trip next week.
I spent the afternoon with Mrs. H shopping for a stand for our new HDTV
as
we will be giving our old 36" RCA (1994 vintage) cathode ray and stand
to
our daughter since receiving our new 46" Sony HDTV.

The payoff was a great shrimp and crap dinner followed by a movie on
the new
TV.

BTW: Time Warner sucks big time as it does not appear to recognize
HDMI.
Although the S-Video input works on our box/set the HDMI input does
not,
despite swapping out TW HD boxes, HDMI cables and trying various
settings on
the new Sony.



JimH, is there a reason you must tell us for at least the third time
that
you're giving your 16 year-old TV to your daughter?

We all believe you are a most generous person!



I can't figure out what else he would have done with the TV, a 12 yr old
non digital, standard format TV has no value.


My math sucks!

Actually, if one has cable the company will rent a box that will enable
the
use of an analog TV when we go all digital next year. So, that TV will
still be have significant value.

Maybe about $4.37.
--
John H


Why would you have to do anything different when broadcast analog TV is
turned off and you have cable for your source? The cable company will
receive the digital video signals, as they do currently in some cases, and
pass an analog signal from their box to your TV.

I know for a fact that the satellite services will be that mode.



Don White February 17th 08 07:49 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:03:27 -0500, "Jim" wrote:

Putting Harry in the trash is like a taking a breath of fresh air.Try
it.
You might like it.
*************************************

Jim, do you not get a charge out of the antics of Harry and JimH? Hell,
watching them eat their foot with nasty comments ("Your house is
glass...")
and then suck up to get someone to talk to them is hilarious.

If I were to filter them, I'd never get to laugh at their antics.


--
John H

Not any more.It's getting kind of sickening actually. Harry is in the
dumpster and it's lit more pleasant reading the group now. But I'm still
seeing the second hand smoke from him. I wish a few more folks would dump
him or at least not quote him.



John H & Jim: proof that intelligence is *not* synergistic.


Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the score...even
though he was constantly falling further behind.





Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 17th 08 08:02 PM

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D.Duck wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:58:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:59 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

My day was great. I spent some bucks on fishing gear, and my wife
bought
me some new "resort" clothes for my trip next week.
I spent the afternoon with Mrs. H shopping for a stand for our new HDTV
as
we will be giving our old 36" RCA (1994 vintage) cathode ray and stand
to
our daughter since receiving our new 46" Sony HDTV.

The payoff was a great shrimp and crap dinner followed by a movie on
the new
TV.

BTW: Time Warner sucks big time as it does not appear to recognize
HDMI.
Although the S-Video input works on our box/set the HDMI input does
not,
despite swapping out TW HD boxes, HDMI cables and trying various
settings on
the new Sony.



JimH, is there a reason you must tell us for at least the third time
that
you're giving your 16 year-old TV to your daughter?

We all believe you are a most generous person!


I can't figure out what else he would have done with the TV, a 12 yr old
non digital, standard format TV has no value.

My math sucks!

Actually, if one has cable the company will rent a box that will enable
the
use of an analog TV when we go all digital next year. So, that TV will
still be have significant value.

Maybe about $4.37.
--
John H


Why would you have to do anything different when broadcast analog TV is
turned off and you have cable for your source? The cable company will
receive the digital video signals, as they do currently in some cases, and
pass an analog signal from their box to your TV.

I know for a fact that the satellite services will be that mode.



An analog TV with a conventional TV format, will still function with
cable, satellite or by using a converter box, but you will lose either
side of the transmission. It will be similar to when you watched a
movie on a regular TV and they did a poor job of pan and scan. You knew
you were missing something from your screen that you would see with
widescreen format. With TV they will not do pan and scan, you just
won't be able to see whatever is going on the sides. It is the reason
why conventional format TV are being sold so cheaply.

John H.[_3_] February 17th 08 09:04 PM

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:41:41 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:58:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:59 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

My day was great. I spent some bucks on fishing gear, and my wife
bought
me some new "resort" clothes for my trip next week.
I spent the afternoon with Mrs. H shopping for a stand for our new HDTV
as
we will be giving our old 36" RCA (1994 vintage) cathode ray and stand
to
our daughter since receiving our new 46" Sony HDTV.

The payoff was a great shrimp and crap dinner followed by a movie on
the new
TV.

BTW: Time Warner sucks big time as it does not appear to recognize
HDMI.
Although the S-Video input works on our box/set the HDMI input does
not,
despite swapping out TW HD boxes, HDMI cables and trying various
settings on
the new Sony.



JimH, is there a reason you must tell us for at least the third time
that
you're giving your 16 year-old TV to your daughter?

We all believe you are a most generous person!



I can't figure out what else he would have done with the TV, a 12 yr old
non digital, standard format TV has no value.


My math sucks!

Actually, if one has cable the company will rent a box that will enable
the
use of an analog TV when we go all digital next year. So, that TV will
still be have significant value.

Maybe about $4.37.
--
John H


Why would you have to do anything different when broadcast analog TV is
turned off and you have cable for your source? The cable company will
receive the digital video signals, as they do currently in some cases, and
pass an analog signal from their box to your TV.

I know for a fact that the satellite services will be that mode.


I don't think you'll have to do anything different if you have an analog TV
and cable. Cox, here, told me they'd have a box to convert the digital to
analog for those televisions.

It'll probably save the $5 extra they charge for a digital box.

Wonder if they'll have to stop that **** then?
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 17th 08 09:05 PM

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:49:03 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:03:27 -0500, "Jim" wrote:

Putting Harry in the trash is like a taking a breath of fresh air.Try
it.
You might like it.
*************************************

Jim, do you not get a charge out of the antics of Harry and JimH? Hell,
watching them eat their foot with nasty comments ("Your house is
glass...")
and then suck up to get someone to talk to them is hilarious.

If I were to filter them, I'd never get to laugh at their antics.


--
John H
Not any more.It's getting kind of sickening actually. Harry is in the
dumpster and it's lit more pleasant reading the group now. But I'm still
seeing the second hand smoke from him. I wish a few more folks would dump
him or at least not quote him.



John H & Jim: proof that intelligence is *not* synergistic.


Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the score...even
though he was constantly falling further behind.




Thanks, Don. I wasn't keeping score, but I'm glad to see I'm way behind!
--
John H

HK February 17th 08 10:42 PM

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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:03:27 -0500, "Jim" wrote:

Putting Harry in the trash is like a taking a breath of fresh air.Try
it.
You might like it.
*************************************

Jim, do you not get a charge out of the antics of Harry and JimH? Hell,
watching them eat their foot with nasty comments ("Your house is
glass...")
and then suck up to get someone to talk to them is hilarious.

If I were to filter them, I'd never get to laugh at their antics.


--
John H
Not any more.It's getting kind of sickening actually. Harry is in the
dumpster and it's lit more pleasant reading the group now. But I'm still
seeing the second hand smoke from him. I wish a few more folks would dump
him or at least not quote him.


John H & Jim: proof that intelligence is *not* synergistic.


Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the score...even
though he was constantly falling further behind.




Wait until he's moved into the "retirement" home...

HK February 17th 08 11:11 PM

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:


Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the
score...even though he was constantly falling further behind.




Wait until he's moved into the "retirement" home...


He is obviously obsessed with both of us. He must really hate waking up
each morning knowing he has to live another life as John Herring so he vents
his anger here and directs it towards us.

The old man needs to move on with his life already and try to find some
happiness in it.




When I looked up Herring in my dictionary, I saw this illustration:

http://tinyurl.com/2vbgvw

HK February 17th 08 11:57 PM

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JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:54:05 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the
score...even though he was constantly falling further behind.




Wait until he's moved into the "retirement" home...

He is obviously obsessed with both of us. He must really hate waking up
each morning knowing he has to live another life as John Herring so he vents
his anger here and directs it towards us.

The old man needs to move on with his life already and try to find some
happiness in it.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Then you should do the same with JohnH. And he with you.

Or admit you aren't serious.


Eh? Come again?


It takes two. You aren't helping.

Eh?



In your case, Jackoff...pot, kettle, black.

John H.[_3_] February 18th 08 12:28 AM

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:31:00 -0500, JG2U wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:54:05 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:


Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the
score...even though he was constantly falling further behind.




Wait until he's moved into the "retirement" home...


He is obviously obsessed with both of us. He must really hate waking up
each morning knowing he has to live another life as John Herring so he vents
his anger here and directs it towards us.

The old man needs to move on with his life already and try to find some
happiness in it.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Then you should do the same with JohnH. And he with you.

Or admit you aren't serious.


Eh? Come again?


It takes two. You aren't helping.

Eh?


Once upon a time JimH was having an argument with Harry. This was a couple
years ago, before they became BFF. In this particular argument, I disagreed
with JimH. I then received an email from JimH wondering how I could be his
friend and not agree with him. I told him friendship didn't mean agreement
with everything someone said.

He's been looking since then. And lying. And inserting fake posts. And so
on. Please don't think I'll ever respect JimH. Two days ago he was telling
Harry to go f*ck himself. Today they're BFF again. Something sick about
JimH.


--
John H

Sam[_3_] February 18th 08 02:23 AM

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"JimH" wrote in message
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"Sam" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Sam" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are
watching Says it's broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be
sending you HD. To be sure you are getting "all HDTV can be" watch
the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.


I understand that but the picture is still damn good and better than
with the composite cables. I will keep playing around to see if I
can get the HDMI to work.


No expert on this here, but my memory of hooking up an HD TV was that
there were five cables going from the cable box to the TV, and the HDMI
cable went from the DVD player to the TV.

Those are component cables. 3 for video and 2 for audio. I tried that
setup but the picture quality was not the best.



If you're getting a better picture from S-Video than from component
something is seriously wrong. Component is usually indistinguishable from
HDMI, sometimes it's even better, while S-Video can only pass a 480i
signal.

Make sure you're actually using component cables, and not standard
"composite" or audio type RCA cables. All component cables will have red,
green, and blue colored connectors.


You are right on all counts. Turns out the darn HDMI cable was defective
and the new picture is very impressive.

Having not viewed HDTV in the house prior to purchasing this new set what
I thought was HD while connected to the S-Video was obviously
not...........even though the picture was a big improvement from what we
had been getting.

This has been a learning process for me.........a process which will
continue as my next step is to calibrate the set using the Digital Video
Essentials program.

Again, thanks to all for helping me out. I guess the process would not
have been as painful as it was if the darn HDMI cable I initially
purchased was not defective. ;-)


No problem, we're all learning all the time....

Also, when you are ready to calibrate with DVE, make sure you watch the
whole DVD prior to making any adjustments (you can skip the audio sections
if you are not setting up a home theater/surround sound system). You will
also most likely be unimpressed with the calibration once you are complete
but resist the temptation to revert back to any of the standard settings.
Many people get used to the much brighter (and bluer) picture of the "out of
the box" settings and think the calibrated settings are too dark. Give it a
week of viewing before you compare the calibrated vs standard settings then
you will see just how bad the standard settings really are.




Short Wave Sportfishing February 18th 08 11:06 AM

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between nonHD
and HD channels.


If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.


don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.


I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 18th 08 11:41 AM

HDTV
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.

don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.


I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.


But they are crystal clear buggers.


John H.[_3_] February 18th 08 01:02 PM

HDTV
 
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:06:18 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between nonHD
and HD channels.

If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.


don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.


I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.


When friends from Europe visit now they can't say, like they've done for
the past 20 years, "When is America going to get a decent television
picture?"
--
John H

Don White February 18th 08 01:36 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says
it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure
you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD
and HD channels.

If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.


don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.


I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.



It's the outdoors programs that impress me.
examples... the 'Chronicle' program from ABC in Boston. Beautiful New
England scenery. the show on Mount Washington was super.
Lately they travelled a bit...comparing other cities to Boston... the show
on Vancouver, British Columbia was great and just last week...Costa Rica.

Another one is 'Rick Stevens Travels'. His early morning footage of old
European cities are breathtaking.



D.Duck[_2_] February 18th 08 01:55 PM

HDTV
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:06:18 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says
it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure
you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD
and HD channels.

If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.

don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.


I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.


When friends from Europe visit now they can't say, like they've done for
the past 20 years, "When is America going to get a decent television
picture?"
--
John H


I don't know if they've changed anything with their version of HD-TV but
their PAL system with 50 Hz vertical refresh was very annoying for me to
watch.

Didn't you notice the "flicker". Actually tolerance for flicker varies from
person to person and maybe you're among the group that doesn't notice it.



BAR February 18th 08 02:23 PM

HDTV
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.

don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.


I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.


Just means I can take my glasses off when watching HDTV and the piture
is the same as SDTV with my glasses on.


Don White February 18th 08 08:29 PM

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"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Just means I can take my glasses off when watching HDTV and the *piture*
is the same as SDTV with my glasses on.



Do you wear those glasses when you post here?


Your posts are more intelligent when I take my glasses off.



Wow..Bertie made an attempt to post a funny.
Next you'll actually be talking about boating..... if you ever get around to
doing some.



BAR February 18th 08 09:13 PM

HDTV
 
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Just means I can take my glasses off when watching HDTV and the *piture*
is the same as SDTV with my glasses on.


Do you wear those glasses when you post here?

Your posts are more intelligent when I take my glasses off.



Wow..Bertie made an attempt to post a funny.
Next you'll actually be talking about boating..... if you ever get around to
doing some.


When is your son going to stand on his own two feet and move out of
mommy and daddy's house?



Don White February 18th 08 09:33 PM

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"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Just means I can take my glasses off when watching HDTV and the
*piture*
is the same as SDTV with my glasses on.


Do you wear those glasses when you post here?
Your posts are more intelligent when I take my glasses off.



Wow..Bertie made an attempt to post a funny.
Next you'll actually be talking about boating..... if you ever get around
to doing some.


When is your son going to stand on his own two feet and move out of mommy
and daddy's house?


Come on up & ask him yourself.



Short Wave Sportfishing February 18th 08 09:51 PM

HDTV
 
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:02:59 -0500, John H.
wrote:


When friends from Europe visit now they can't say, like they've done for
the past 20 years, "When is America going to get a decent television
picture?"


I'm one of those who gets wrapped up in details. Visually, I have a
critical nature and when colors or an image doesn't "look" right, I
obcess on it. Similar to when I critique a photographic image - it's
the same kind of concept. The blues aren't what they should be, white
are overdone, etc.

Part of the problem is that much like digital photography, colors seem
to be balanced to an average and not necessarily "real" color. Yes
yes, technically, it's real color, clear and sharp, but that doesn't
make it visually attractive. Sharp doesn't mean it's a good image and
that's my problem. :)

Picky, picky, picky - I know. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing February 18th 08 09:51 PM

HDTV
 
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:41:38 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.
don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.


I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.


But they are crystal clear buggers.


That's true,but as we've discussed, sharp doesn't an image make.

HK February 18th 08 10:47 PM

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Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Just means I can take my glasses off when watching HDTV and the
*piture*
is the same as SDTV with my glasses on.

Do you wear those glasses when you post here?
Your posts are more intelligent when I take my glasses off.

Wow..Bertie made an attempt to post a funny.
Next you'll actually be talking about boating..... if you ever get around
to doing some.

When is your son going to stand on his own two feet and move out of mommy
and daddy's house?


Come on up & ask him yourself.




Bertie isn't allowed to leave the United States.

John H.[_3_] February 18th 08 10:56 PM

HDTV
 
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:51:02 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:02:59 -0500, John H.
wrote:


When friends from Europe visit now they can't say, like they've done for
the past 20 years, "When is America going to get a decent television
picture?"


I'm one of those who gets wrapped up in details. Visually, I have a
critical nature and when colors or an image doesn't "look" right, I
obcess on it. Similar to when I critique a photographic image - it's
the same kind of concept. The blues aren't what they should be, white
are overdone, etc.

Part of the problem is that much like digital photography, colors seem
to be balanced to an average and not necessarily "real" color. Yes
yes, technically, it's real color, clear and sharp, but that doesn't
make it visually attractive. Sharp doesn't mean it's a good image and
that's my problem. :)

Picky, picky, picky - I know. :)


Do some more calibrating!

I like very much what I'm seeing on these TV's. Most likely I'm not as
picky as you are, but I'm very happy with these buggers.

I just hope I don't break them moving to NC, or whereever the hell we end
up.
--
John H

Jim February 18th 08 11:25 PM

HDTV
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:41:38 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says
it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure
you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.
don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the
difference
between HD and Non HD TV.

I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.


But they are crystal clear buggers.


That's true,but as we've discussed, sharp doesn't an image make.


From what I can tell there isn't a way to adjust sharpness on these new LCD
sets. Warm,cool,contrast,brightness,color,and tint are about all I can
adjust on mine.


Don White February 18th 08 11:33 PM

HDTV
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Just means I can take my glasses off when watching HDTV and the
*piture*
is the same as SDTV with my glasses on.

Do you wear those glasses when you post here?
Your posts are more intelligent when I take my glasses off.

Wow..Bertie made an attempt to post a funny.
Next you'll actually be talking about boating..... if you ever get
around to doing some.
When is your son going to stand on his own two feet and move out of
mommy and daddy's house?


Come on up & ask him yourself.



Bertie isn't allowed to leave the United States.


Funny you should mention that.... I was reading in todays newspaper that
Canada's border people have upgraded their computer system and have been
blocking American's with convictions from crossing over. Sometimes for what
appears to be a minor case from many years ago.
Let's see....Bertie impersonated a marine for a couple of years. I wonder
if that would be grounds to be bounced back to the US.
Real Marines, of course, would have no such problems.



Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 19th 08 12:12 AM

HDTV
 
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says
it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure
you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.
don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.

I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.


Eh?

Picture quality is not important to you?

Whatever.




JimH,
Why have you started to use all of Harry's expressions? Eh?

The next thing you will do is start talking about the military being
full of ignorant, no neck, brain dead individuals who only joined the
military because they were not capable of any other jobs.




John H.[_3_] February 19th 08 12:34 AM

HDTV
 
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:22:40 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:12:47 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says
it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure
you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.
don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.
I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.

Eh?

Picture quality is not important to you?

Whatever.




JimH,
Why have you started to use all of Harry's expressions? Eh?

The next thing you will do is start talking about the military being
full of ignorant, no neck, brain dead individuals who only joined the
military because they were not capable of any other jobs.



Harry was in the military?


No.
--
John H

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 19th 08 01:02 AM

HDTV
 
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:12:47 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says
it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure
you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.
don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.
I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.
Eh?

Picture quality is not important to you?

Whatever.



JimH,
Why have you started to use all of Harry's expressions? Eh?

The next thing you will do is start talking about the military being
full of ignorant, no neck, brain dead individuals who only joined the
military because they were not capable of any other jobs.



Harry was in the military?




No, he didn't meet their standards.


BAR February 19th 08 01:27 AM

HDTV
 
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Just means I can take my glasses off when watching HDTV and the
*piture*
is the same as SDTV with my glasses on.

Do you wear those glasses when you post here?
Your posts are more intelligent when I take my glasses off.
Wow..Bertie made an attempt to post a funny.
Next you'll actually be talking about boating..... if you ever get
around to doing some.
When is your son going to stand on his own two feet and move out of
mommy and daddy's house?

Come on up & ask him yourself.


What's the problem, isn't he allowed out of the country? What has he
done that he can cross a national border? Why does he have to live at
home? Is there something you haven't told us about yet?

Bertie isn't allowed to leave the United States.


Funny you should mention that.... I was reading in todays newspaper that
Canada's border people have upgraded their computer system and have been
blocking American's with convictions from crossing over. Sometimes for what
appears to be a minor case from many years ago.


I've been in and out of Canada many, many times and never had a problem.
Let's see Harry try that. His felony convictions would get him turned
around real quick, at least that's what I heard about him.

Let's see....Bertie impersonated a marine for a couple of years. I wonder
if that would be grounds to be bounced back to the US.
Real Marines, of course, would have no such problems.


Wow Donny did you think that up all by yourself or did you get help from
somebody.


BAR February 19th 08 01:30 AM

HDTV
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:12:47 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching
Says it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be
sure you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference
between nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.
don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the
difference
between HD and Non HD TV.
I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.
Eh?

Picture quality is not important to you?

Whatever.



JimH,
Why have you started to use all of Harry's expressions? Eh?

The next thing you will do is start talking about the military being
full of ignorant, no neck, brain dead individuals who only joined the
military because they were not capable of any other jobs.



Harry was in the military?




No, he didn't meet their standards.


And he has been ****ed about it for 40 years.


Jim February 19th 08 02:13 AM

HDTV
 

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:12:47 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says
it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be
sure
you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.
don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the
difference
between HD and Non HD TV.
I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.

Eh?

Picture quality is not important to you?

Whatever.




JimH,
Why have you started to use all of Harry's expressions? Eh?

The next thing you will do is start talking about the military being
full of ignorant, no neck, brain dead individuals who only joined the
military because they were not capable of any other jobs.



Harry was in the military?

Are you kidding? Our Harriet in the military!


John H.[_3_] February 19th 08 01:11 PM

HDTV
 
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:46:16 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:34:50 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:22:40 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:12:47 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says
it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure
you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.
don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.
I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.
Eh?

Picture quality is not important to you?

Whatever.



JimH,
Why have you started to use all of Harry's expressions? Eh?

The next thing you will do is start talking about the military being
full of ignorant, no neck, brain dead individuals who only joined the
military because they were not capable of any other jobs.


Harry was in the military?

No.


The description above seemed like a match.




There you going again, playing the little twerp who shows up in here to
insult other posters.


That was humor. Good humor, too.
--
John H

HK February 19th 08 01:37 PM

HDTV
 
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:46:16 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:34:50 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:22:40 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:12:47 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says
it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure
you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.
don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.
I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.
Eh?

Picture quality is not important to you?

Whatever.



JimH,
Why have you started to use all of Harry's expressions? Eh?

The next thing you will do is start talking about the military being
full of ignorant, no neck, brain dead individuals who only joined the
military because they were not capable of any other jobs.


Harry was in the military?

No.
The description above seemed like a match.



There you going again, playing the little twerp who shows up in here to
insult other posters.


Glad to know my opinion means so much to you, Hairless.




About as much as a dog turd I step over on the sidewalk.

HK February 19th 08 02:46 PM

HDTV
 
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:34:50 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:22:40 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:12:47 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Sam wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite
video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are watching Says
it's
broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be sending you HD. To be sure
you
are getting "all HDTV can be" watch the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD
and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.
don't bother, he is enjoy his HDTV, even if he can't tell the difference
between HD and Non HD TV.
I have to be totally honest here - HD is great and what not, but I
honestly don't see what the fuss is about.

Other than the ability to see boogers hanging out of somebodies nose,
big whoop.
Eh?

Picture quality is not important to you?

Whatever.



JimH,
Why have you started to use all of Harry's expressions? Eh?

The next thing you will do is start talking about the military being
full of ignorant, no neck, brain dead individuals who only joined the
military because they were not capable of any other jobs.


Harry was in the military?

No.


The description above seemed like a match.




There you going again, playing the little twerp who shows up in here to
insult other posters.


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