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Chuck Gould February 11th 08 08:51 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Captain's Class


Do you have the knowledge required to pass a USCG "Captain's License"
exam?
The following questions (and official answers) are extracted from the
pool of questions used on USCG exams.

(And represent only a small portion of the total knowledge one would
need to demonstrate to pass the exam),

All 10 questions apply to inland waters;

1. What is the required whistle signal for a power-driven vessel
leaving a dock or berth?
A. One short blast
B. One prolonged blast
C. Two short blasts
D. Two prolonged blasts

2. You are overtaking a vessel in a narrow channel and wish to leave
her on your starboard side. You may:
A. Attempt to contact her on the radiotelephone to arrange for the
passage
B. Proceed to overtake her without sounding signals
C. Sound five short blasts
D. All of the above

3. When power-driven vessels are crossing, a signal of one short blast
by either vessel means:
A. "I intend to leave you on my port side"
B. "I intend to hold course and speed"
C. "I intend to change course to starboard"
D. "I request a departure from the Rules"

4. You are coming up on another vessel from dead astern and desire to
overtake on the other vessel's starboard side. Which whistle signal do
you sound?
A. One short blast
B. One prolonged blast
C. Two short blasts
D. Two prolonged blasts

5. When you are overtaking another vessel and desire to pass on her
left or port hand, you should sound:
A. One short blast
B. One long blast
C. Two short blasts
D. Two prolonged blasts

6. Two vessels are in a starboard-to-starboard meeting situation and
will pass well clear approximately 1/4 mile apart. Which action should
each vessel take?
A. Sound a one blast whistle and turn to starboard
B. Maintain course and sound no signal
C. Sound a two blast signal and maintain course
D. Sound a three blast signal and turn to port

7. You are overtaking another vessel and sound a whistle signal
indicating that you intend to pass the vessel along her starboard
side. If the other vessel answers your signal with five short and
rapid blasts, you should:
A. Pass the other vessel along her starboard side
B. Sound five short and rapid blasts and pass along her starboard side
C. Not overtake the other vessel until both vessels exchange the same
passing signal
D. Not overtake the other vessel until she sounds another five short
and rapid blast signals

8. You are meeting another vessel head-on and sound one short blast as
a passing signal. The other vessel answers with two short blasts. What
should be your next action?
A. Pass on the other vessel's starboard side
B. Sound the danger signal
C. Pass astern of the other vessel
D. Hold your course and speed

9. Which statement is true concerning the fog signal of a vessel 15
meters in length anchored in a "special anchorage area" approved by
the Secretary of Transportation?
A. The vessel is not required to sound a fog signal
B. The vessel shall ring a bell for 5 seconds every minute
C. The vessel shall sound one blast of the foghorn every 2 minutes
D. The vessel shall sound three blasts on the whistle every 2 minutes

10. Your vessel must stay within a narrow channel to be navigated
safely. Another vessel is crossing your course from starboard to port.
You do not think she will pass safely. You:
A. May sound the danger signal
B. Must sound the danger signal
C. Should sound one short blast to indicate that you are holding
course and speed
D. Are required to back down




Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B

John H.[_3_] February 11th 08 09:01 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
No.


On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Captain's Class


Do you have the knowledge required to pass a USCG "Captain's License"
exam?
The following questions (and official answers) are extracted from the
pool of questions used on USCG exams.

(And represent only a small portion of the total knowledge one would
need to demonstrate to pass the exam),

All 10 questions apply to inland waters;

1. What is the required whistle signal for a power-driven vessel
leaving a dock or berth?
A. One short blast
B. One prolonged blast
C. Two short blasts
D. Two prolonged blasts

2. You are overtaking a vessel in a narrow channel and wish to leave
her on your starboard side. You may:
A. Attempt to contact her on the radiotelephone to arrange for the
passage
B. Proceed to overtake her without sounding signals
C. Sound five short blasts
D. All of the above

3. When power-driven vessels are crossing, a signal of one short blast
by either vessel means:
A. "I intend to leave you on my port side"
B. "I intend to hold course and speed"
C. "I intend to change course to starboard"
D. "I request a departure from the Rules"

4. You are coming up on another vessel from dead astern and desire to
overtake on the other vessel's starboard side. Which whistle signal do
you sound?
A. One short blast
B. One prolonged blast
C. Two short blasts
D. Two prolonged blasts

5. When you are overtaking another vessel and desire to pass on her
left or port hand, you should sound:
A. One short blast
B. One long blast
C. Two short blasts
D. Two prolonged blasts

6. Two vessels are in a starboard-to-starboard meeting situation and
will pass well clear approximately 1/4 mile apart. Which action should
each vessel take?
A. Sound a one blast whistle and turn to starboard
B. Maintain course and sound no signal
C. Sound a two blast signal and maintain course
D. Sound a three blast signal and turn to port

7. You are overtaking another vessel and sound a whistle signal
indicating that you intend to pass the vessel along her starboard
side. If the other vessel answers your signal with five short and
rapid blasts, you should:
A. Pass the other vessel along her starboard side
B. Sound five short and rapid blasts and pass along her starboard side
C. Not overtake the other vessel until both vessels exchange the same
passing signal
D. Not overtake the other vessel until she sounds another five short
and rapid blast signals

8. You are meeting another vessel head-on and sound one short blast as
a passing signal. The other vessel answers with two short blasts. What
should be your next action?
A. Pass on the other vessel's starboard side
B. Sound the danger signal
C. Pass astern of the other vessel
D. Hold your course and speed

9. Which statement is true concerning the fog signal of a vessel 15
meters in length anchored in a "special anchorage area" approved by
the Secretary of Transportation?
A. The vessel is not required to sound a fog signal
B. The vessel shall ring a bell for 5 seconds every minute
C. The vessel shall sound one blast of the foghorn every 2 minutes
D. The vessel shall sound three blasts on the whistle every 2 minutes

10. Your vessel must stay within a narrow channel to be navigated
safely. Another vessel is crossing your course from starboard to port.
You do not think she will pass safely. You:
A. May sound the danger signal
B. Must sound the danger signal
C. Should sound one short blast to indicate that you are holding
course and speed
D. Are required to back down




Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B


--
John H

[email protected] February 11th 08 09:11 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Feb 11, 4:01*pm, John H. wrote:
No.

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
Captain's Class


Do you have the knowledge required to pass a USCG "Captain's License"
exam?
The following questions (and official answers) are extracted from the
pool of questions used on USCG exams.


(And represent only a small portion of the total knowledge one would
need to demonstrate to pass the exam),


All 10 questions apply to inland waters;


1. *What is the required whistle signal for a power-driven vessel
leaving a dock or berth?
A. *One short blast
B. *One prolonged blast
C. *Two short blasts
D. *Two prolonged blasts


2. *You are overtaking a vessel in a narrow channel and wish to leave
her on your starboard side. You may:
A. *Attempt to contact her on the radiotelephone to arrange for the
passage
B. *Proceed to overtake her without sounding signals
C. *Sound five short blasts
D. *All of the above


3. *When power-driven vessels are crossing, a signal of one short blast
by either vessel means:
A. *"I intend to leave you on my port side"
B. *"I intend to hold course and speed"
C. *"I intend to change course to starboard"
D. *"I request a departure from the Rules"


4. *You are coming up on another vessel from dead astern and desire to
overtake on the other vessel's starboard side. Which whistle signal do
you sound?
A. *One short blast
B. *One prolonged blast
C. *Two short blasts
D. *Two prolonged blasts


5. *When you are overtaking another vessel and desire to pass on her
left or port hand, you should sound:
A. *One short blast
B. *One long blast
C. *Two short blasts
D. *Two prolonged blasts


6. *Two vessels are in a starboard-to-starboard meeting situation and
will pass well clear approximately 1/4 mile apart. Which action should
each vessel take?
A. *Sound a one blast whistle and turn to starboard
B. *Maintain course and sound no signal
C. *Sound a two blast signal and maintain course
D. *Sound a three blast signal and turn to port


7. *You are overtaking another vessel and sound a whistle signal
indicating that you intend to pass the vessel along her starboard
side. If the other vessel answers your signal with five short and
rapid blasts, you should:
A. *Pass the other vessel along her starboard side
B. *Sound five short and rapid blasts and pass along her starboard side
C. *Not overtake the other vessel until both vessels exchange the same
passing signal
D. *Not overtake the other vessel until she sounds another five short
and rapid blast signals


8. *You are meeting another vessel head-on and sound one short blast as
a passing signal. The other vessel answers with two short blasts. What
should be your next action?
A. *Pass on the other vessel's starboard side
B. *Sound the danger signal
C. *Pass astern of the other vessel
D. *Hold your course and speed


9. *Which statement is true concerning the fog signal of a vessel 15
meters in length anchored in a "special anchorage area" approved by
the Secretary of Transportation?
A. *The vessel is not required to sound a fog signal
B. *The vessel shall ring a bell for 5 seconds every minute
C. *The vessel shall sound one blast of the foghorn every 2 minutes
D. *The vessel shall sound three blasts on the whistle every 2 minutes


10. Your vessel must stay within a narrow channel to be navigated
safely. Another vessel is crossing your course from starboard to port.
You do not think she will pass safely. You:
A. *May sound the danger signal
B. *Must sound the danger signal
C. *Should sound one short blast to indicate that you are holding
course and speed
D. *Are required to back down


Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B


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I'll bet Harry does! You KNOW how great he is, he's told everyone here
millions of times!

Don White February 11th 08 09:14 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
No.



Then quit harassing legitimate boaters.







On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Captain's Class


Do you have the knowledge required to pass a USCG "Captain's License"
exam?
The following questions (and official answers) are extracted from the
pool of questions used on USCG exams.

(And represent only a small portion of the total knowledge one would
need to demonstrate to pass the exam),

snip...




Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 11th 08 09:19 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B


Now look what you've done - given everybody the answers.

~~ sheesh ~~


I got a 100, how did you do?


Tim February 11th 08 10:52 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:19:48 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B

Now look what you've done - given everybody the answers.

~~ sheesh ~~


I got a 100, how did you do?


Missed one.


I use GoogleGroups.

I missed 'em all!

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 11th 08 10:59 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Tim wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:19:48 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B
Now look what you've done - given everybody the answers.

~~ sheesh ~~
I got a 100, how did you do?

Missed one.


I use GoogleGroups.

I missed 'em all!


Moron! ;)

I just want to know why do all the Moron end up in Google Groups.
You would expect one or two would use a newsgroup reader.

I also want to know why Google doesn't allow smart people over there?
Is their an IQ test they give you and if you score over 75 they won't
let you join?

Why does't JimH use Google Groups?


BAR February 12th 08 12:56 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B


Now look what you've done - given everybody the answers.

~~ sheesh ~~


Good liberal education policy.

Can't have boaters with self esteem problems.


Tim February 12th 08 02:02 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Feb 11, 4:59*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:19:48 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:


Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B
Now look what you've done - given everybody the answers.


~~ sheesh ~~
I got a 100, how did you do?
Missed one.


I use GoogleGroups.


I missed 'em all!


Moron! *;)

* *I just want to know why do all the Moron end up in Google Groups.


Why do all the "Moron? use Google Groups?

You would expect one or two would use a newsgroup reader.



If we used a newsgrou reader then we wouldn't be "Moron" now, would
we?



Is their an IQ test they give you and if you score over 75 they won't
let you join?


No.



Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 12th 08 02:13 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 4:59 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:19:48 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:
Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B
Now look what you've done - given everybody the answers.
~~ sheesh ~~
I got a 100, how did you do?
Missed one.
I use GoogleGroups.
I missed 'em all!

Moron! ;)

I just want to know why do all the Moron end up in Google Groups.


Why do all the "Moron? use Google Groups?

You would expect one or two would use a newsgroup reader.



If we used a newsgrou reader then we wouldn't be "Moron" now, would
we?



Is their an IQ test they give you and if you score over 75 they won't
let you join?


No.




Isn't a Moron someone who belongs to the Church of LDS? ;)


Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 12th 08 02:15 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:52:47 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:36:04 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:19:48 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B
Now look what you've done - given everybody the answers.

~~ sheesh ~~
I got a 100, how did you do?
Missed one.

I hope it wasn't an important one!


Me too, I was torn between may and must sound the danger signal on the
crossing in the narrow channel. I thought I could miss him. ;-)


Didn't you know you were supposed to cheat and look at the answer sheet?


Tim February 12th 08 04:52 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Feb 11, 4:59*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:

You would expect one or two would use a newsgroup reader.

I also want to know why Google doesn't allow smart people over there?


"You would expect one or two would use a newsgroup reader."

Maybe I'm not smart because I must ask a question or two.

Most of you people pay for software to read news for/or to you?

Does this software also interpret the news for you?

Is there really such a thin as "news" on USENET?


I'll stop asking multiple questions in one post now, because even
though it may not help my case, I don't want to be identified as the
latest circle-jerker in rec.boats.

?:^ )

Tim February 12th 08 05:15 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Feb 11, 11:11*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Most of you people pay for software to read news for/or to you?


Does this software also interpret the news for you?


I paid about $15-20 bucks many years ago for Agent and it was worth
every penny.
It doesn't intrepret the news but it also doesn't keep track of
everything you look at and sell that information to spammers and
telemarketers like Google.


But that's one thing I like about G-mail. it blocks almost all the
spam that Google can sell.

Never a problem... only oppertunity!

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 12th 08 05:17 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 4:59 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:

You would expect one or two would use a newsgroup reader.

I also want to know why Google doesn't allow smart people over there?


"You would expect one or two would use a newsgroup reader."

Maybe I'm not smart because I must ask a question or two.

Most of you people pay for software to read news for/or to you?

Does this software also interpret the news for you?

Is there really such a thin as "news" on USENET?


I'll stop asking multiple questions in one post now, because even
though it may not help my case, I don't want to be identified as the
latest circle-jerker in rec.boats.

?:^ )


Iim,
I can't figure out why anyone would think a Google User is any more or
less unintelligent that the other low lifes who hang around here.

Tim February 12th 08 05:25 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Feb 11, 11:17*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 11, 4:59 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:


You would expect one or two would use a newsgroup reader.


I also want to know why Google doesn't allow smart people over there?


"You would expect one or two would use a newsgroup reader."


Maybe I'm not smart because I must ask a question or two.


Most of you people pay for software to read news for/or to you?


Does this software also interpret the news for you?


Is there really such a thin as "news" on USENET?


I'll stop asking multiple questions in one post now, because even
though it may not help my case, I don't want to be identified as the
latest circle-jerker in rec.boats.


?:^ )


Iim,
I can't figure out why anyone would think a Google User is any more or
less unintelligent that the other low lifes who hang around here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


good point!

Wayne.B February 12th 08 05:31 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Captain's Class


Do you have the knowledge required to pass a USCG "Captain's License"
exam?
The following questions (and official answers) are extracted from the
pool of questions used on USCG exams.


=========================================

So is there a Captain Chuck in our future?


Chuck Gould February 12th 08 05:58 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Feb 11, 4:56�pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:


Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B


Now look what you've done - given everybody the answers.


~~ sheesh ~~


Good liberal education policy.

Can't have boaters with self esteem problems.


Purpose of the exercise was to jog a few memories and/or teach a
couple of things to newbies. Putting the answers at the bottom simply
allows somebody to check their own work.

Chuck Gould February 12th 08 06:17 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Feb 11, 9:31�pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
Captain's Class


Do you have the knowledge required to pass a USCG "Captain's License"
exam?
The following questions (and official answers) are extracted from the
pool of questions used on USCG exams.


=========================================

So is there a Captain Chuck in our future?


Probably not. I read the regs probably way-too-strictly to ever
qualify with 360 days at sea. I still say that there isn't any real
wiggle room in the standard that a day of sea service consists of
eight hours *underway*. There is a provision for the sea day to be
reduced to four hours if the operating schedule of the vessel
precludes an 8 hour day, but that's really supposed to mean situations
like a passenger ferry that's only actually "underway" maybe half the
time and the other half time is spent loading/unloading. I can go an
entire year and only get one or two days where I am underway for a
full eight hours. I normally try to make port or drop and anchor after
no more than a 5-6 hour run- (anything longer than that begins to get
tiresome).

And yes, most people self certify and most people lie, egregiously.
In fact, I've sat through seminars in which Captain's License schools
are pitching prospects, and when the subject of sea service comes up
they all but come right and suggest that people lie. One of the
schools actually said, "We'll go over your certification form with
you, and we'll keep working on it until we can show 360 sea days.
Don't worry about that."

I could do the same thing and always be ashamed of my
"accomplishment", or simply figure there are already enough bogus and
unqualified "captains" tottering down the ways and forget about
joining the Joe Six-pack herd. I think I'll go with the second option.
I'd much rather respect myself for being honest than enjoy some
imaginary respect from somebody else because I hung an unearned title
in front of my name.

Jim February 12th 08 11:02 AM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 11, 9:31�pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
Captain's Class


Do you have the knowledge required to pass a USCG "Captain's License"
exam?
The following questions (and official answers) are extracted from the
pool of questions used on USCG exams.


=========================================

So is there a Captain Chuck in our future?


Probably not. I read the regs probably way-too-strictly to ever
qualify with 360 days at sea. I still say that there isn't any real
wiggle room in the standard that a day of sea service consists of
eight hours *underway*. There is a provision for the sea day to be
reduced to four hours if the operating schedule of the vessel
precludes an 8 hour day, but that's really supposed to mean situations
like a passenger ferry that's only actually "underway" maybe half the
time and the other half time is spent loading/unloading. I can go an
entire year and only get one or two days where I am underway for a
full eight hours. I normally try to make port or drop and anchor after
no more than a 5-6 hour run- (anything longer than that begins to get
tiresome).

And yes, most people self certify and most people lie, egregiously.
In fact, I've sat through seminars in which Captain's License schools
are pitching prospects, and when the subject of sea service comes up
they all but come right and suggest that people lie. One of the
schools actually said, "We'll go over your certification form with
you, and we'll keep working on it until we can show 360 sea days.
Don't worry about that."

I could do the same thing and always be ashamed of my
"accomplishment", or simply figure there are already enough bogus and
unqualified "captains" tottering down the ways and forget about
joining the Joe Six-pack herd. I think I'll go with the second option.
I'd much rather respect myself for being honest than enjoy some
imaginary respect from somebody else because I hung an unearned title
in front of my name.

Now that's the kind of honesty I'm looking for in a car/boat/RV salesman. ;-


Tim February 12th 08 12:40 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Feb 12, 5:18*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?


Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. *A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. *Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. *It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. *At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? *Not so much.


Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 12th 08 12:43 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 11, 4:56�pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:51:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:
Answers: 1:B, 2:A, 3:A, 4:A, 5:C, 6:C, 7:C, 8:B, 9:A, 10:B
Now look what you've done - given everybody the answers.
~~ sheesh ~~

Good liberal education policy.

Can't have boaters with self esteem problems.


Purpose of the exercise was to jog a few memories and/or teach a
couple of things to newbies. Putting the answers at the bottom simply
allows somebody to check their own work.


Damn, I thought it was so I could cheat.


HK February 12th 08 12:52 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:18 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?

Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? Not so much.


Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....



Like many others, I "subscribe" or am "a member of" several non-usenet
discussion "groups." Most of the discussions are on-topic, but not all,
and all manner of "fooling around" is tolerated, but the personal insult
kings, a**holes like Reggie, Loogy, Jim, et cetera, are quickly banned.
Their IPs are logged, and they can't post again. Ever.

Eisboch February 12th 08 12:52 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:17:50 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Probably not. I read the regs probably way-too-strictly to ever
qualify with 360 days at sea. I still say that there isn't any real
wiggle room in the standard that a day of sea service consists of
eight hours *underway*.


Technically, any time can be considered 8 hours. I have that direct
from an MSO. Also, time on the water can be substituted for the
stricter 8 hour nonsense. If you have 30 years of large boat
experience, and can prove it, that kind of eliminates any question
about your necessity of having recency and the 360 hour nonsense. I
also have that direct from a CG Examiner.

Although I agree with you about the schools. Some of them are license
schools.

Talk about teaching a test. :)



I took the course at one of those schools in Ft. Lauderdale one winter that
we were in Florida. (I was planning on doing charter fishing trips on the
Egg Harbor with my brother when we returned to MA in the spring).

Although I passed the test (almost impossible to flunk) and was coached on
how to report the "hours", I lost interest in chartering and never
completed the rest of the licensing process. Kept the syllabus/course book
though and it comes in handy sometimes.

Eisboch



Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 12th 08 12:57 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:18 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?
Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? Not so much.


Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....



Like many others, I "subscribe" or am "a member of" several non-usenet
discussion "groups." Most of the discussions are on-topic, but not all,
and all manner of "fooling around" is tolerated, but the personal insult
kings, a**holes like Reggie, Loogy, Jim, et cetera, are quickly banned.
Their IPs are logged, and they can't post again. Ever.


Harry,
Do you ever read your own posts? I really thought you were the king of
insults. I thought I just asked probing questions.


D.Duck[_2_] February 12th 08 12:57 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:18 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?
Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? Not so much.


Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....



Like many others, I "subscribe" or am "a member of" several non-usenet
discussion "groups." Most of the discussions are on-topic, but not all,
and all manner of "fooling around" is tolerated, but the personal insult
kings, a**holes like Reggie, Loogy, Jim, et cetera, are quickly banned.
Their IPs are logged, and they can't post again. Ever.


Except if a proxy is used.



HK February 12th 08 01:08 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:18 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?
Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? Not so much.
Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....


Like many others, I "subscribe" or am "a member of" several non-usenet
discussion "groups." Most of the discussions are on-topic, but not all,
and all manner of "fooling around" is tolerated, but the personal insult
kings, a**holes like Reggie, Loogy, Jim, et cetera, are quickly banned.
Their IPs are logged, and they can't post again. Ever.


Except if a proxy is used.




Oh, the "regulars" quickly pick up on a repeat offender, even if a proxy
is used, and then...they are banned again. After a while, the a**holes
simply give up, move on... and then they hear about this place, where
"a**hole-ery" is not only tolerated, it is encouraged.

HK February 12th 08 01:21 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:08:48 -0500, HK wrote:

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:18 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?
Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? Not so much.
Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....
Like many others, I "subscribe" or am "a member of" several non-usenet
discussion "groups." Most of the discussions are on-topic, but not all,
and all manner of "fooling around" is tolerated, but the personal insult
kings, a**holes like Reggie, Loogy, Jim, et cetera, are quickly banned.
Their IPs are logged, and they can't post again. Ever.
Except if a proxy is used.



Oh, the "regulars" quickly pick up on a repeat offender, even if a proxy
is used, and then...they are banned again. After a while, the a**holes
simply give up, move on... and then they hear about this place, where
"a**hole-ery" is not only tolerated, it is encouraged.


This solves the mystery of how you arrived here. Interesting.




A perfect example of someone who would have been banned...thanks, Saltpeter

John H.[_3_] February 12th 08 01:50 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:08:48 -0500, HK wrote:

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:18 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?
Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? Not so much.
Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....

Like many others, I "subscribe" or am "a member of" several non-usenet
discussion "groups." Most of the discussions are on-topic, but not all,
and all manner of "fooling around" is tolerated, but the personal insult
kings, a**holes like Reggie, Loogy, Jim, et cetera, are quickly banned.
Their IPs are logged, and they can't post again. Ever.


Except if a proxy is used.




Oh, the "regulars" quickly pick up on a repeat offender, even if a proxy
is used, and then...they are banned again. After a while, the a**holes
simply give up, move on... and then they hear about this place, where
"a**hole-ery" is not only tolerated, it is encouraged.


Who encourages you, Harry?

Oh, never mind. There are a couple here who think you're 'cool'.
--
John H

Jim February 12th 08 02:50 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:18 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?
Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? Not so much.


Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....



Like many others, I "subscribe" or am "a member of" several non-usenet
discussion "groups." Most of the discussions are on-topic, but not all,
and all manner of "fooling around" is tolerated, but the personal insult
kings, a**holes like Reggie, Loogy, Jim, et cetera, are quickly banned.
Their IPs are logged, and they can't post again. Ever.


Take a look in the mirror Harry, you potty mouth fool.


John H.[_3_] February 12th 08 02:51 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:33:45 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:50:49 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:08:48 -0500, HK wrote:

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:18 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?
Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? Not so much.
Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....

Like many others, I "subscribe" or am "a member of" several non-usenet
discussion "groups." Most of the discussions are on-topic, but not all,
and all manner of "fooling around" is tolerated, but the personal insult
kings, a**holes like Reggie, Loogy, Jim, et cetera, are quickly banned.
Their IPs are logged, and they can't post again. Ever.

Except if a proxy is used.




Oh, the "regulars" quickly pick up on a repeat offender, even if a proxy
is used, and then...they are banned again. After a while, the a**holes
simply give up, move on... and then they hear about this place, where
"a**hole-ery" is not only tolerated, it is encouraged.


Who encourages you, Harry?

Oh, never mind. There are a couple here who think you're 'cool'.


Just think back on how many times YOU said he was a "really neat guy".


I was only trying to fit in and have special friends.
--
John H

HK February 12th 08 02:54 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:18 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?
Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? Not so much.

Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....



Like many others, I "subscribe" or am "a member of" several non-usenet
discussion "groups." Most of the discussions are on-topic, but not
all, and all manner of "fooling around" is tolerated, but the personal
insult kings, a**holes like Reggie, Loogy, Jim, et cetera, are quickly
banned. Their IPs are logged, and they can't post again. Ever.


Take a look in the mirror Harry, you potty mouth fool.



Got a boat? Bet you don't.

Eisboch February 12th 08 02:55 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


By the way, did you guys close on Soul Source?




Now it's *this* Friday. (was supposed to be last Friday)

Last Thursday, a day before the closing, the buyer decided to finance
through a home equity loan or second mortgage instead of the boat loan he
had originally set up. Kinda ****ed me off, but there's really nothing
that can be done about it. In a boat sale, the buyer holds all the cards
.... the seller just has to adjust.

He was supposed to close on the financing yesterday at 4pm. Then,
apparently there is a 3 day *wait* period in Maryland, so the funds won't be
available until Friday.

I get a kick out of his broker. He sent an email apology for the 11th hour
delay and informed me that the buyer had authorized the release of the
downpayment funds to show "good faith". Big deal. It means the two
brokers get most of their commissions. The seller gets nada. I don't
care much for the buyer's broker. He's a glib motormouth who thinks he's
big shot. Back when we were trying to schedule the sea trial and survey, I
was concerned about the weather at the time and made it clear that the final
decision to get underway would be mine. He tried pulling the legal angle,
reminding me that I "had a contract". That didn't go over very well and
I politely but firmly told him where he could shove his contract. I don't
think he likes me much either.

But, there's nothing to suggest the deal won't happen. The buyer is
actually a pretty decent guy and is looking forward to taking "Soul Source"
to MD this spring.

Eisboch



HK February 12th 08 03:01 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

By the way, did you guys close on Soul Source?




Now it's *this* Friday. (was supposed to be last Friday)

Last Thursday, a day before the closing, the buyer decided to finance
through a home equity loan or second mortgage instead of the boat loan he
had originally set up. Kinda ****ed me off, but there's really nothing
that can be done about it. In a boat sale, the buyer holds all the cards
... the seller just has to adjust.

He was supposed to close on the financing yesterday at 4pm. Then,
apparently there is a 3 day *wait* period in Maryland, so the funds won't be
available until Friday.



Right of recission, I believe, is what it is called. Mortgages, home
improvements, several other major purchases. Three day wait. Hell, I had
to wait FIVE business days for the check on the sale of my 25-foot
Parker to clear because, my crappy bank said, "well, it was drawn on a
money market account." Now that is what I call living off the float.

HK February 12th 08 03:34 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:01:46 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

By the way, did you guys close on Soul Source?


Now it's *this* Friday. (was supposed to be last Friday)

Last Thursday, a day before the closing, the buyer decided to finance
through a home equity loan or second mortgage instead of the boat loan he
had originally set up. Kinda ****ed me off, but there's really nothing
that can be done about it. In a boat sale, the buyer holds all the cards
... the seller just has to adjust.

He was supposed to close on the financing yesterday at 4pm. Then,
apparently there is a 3 day *wait* period in Maryland, so the funds won't be
available until Friday.

Right of recission, I believe, is what it is called. Mortgages, home
improvements, several other major purchases. Three day wait. Hell, I had
to wait FIVE business days for the check on the sale of my 25-foot
Parker to clear because, my crappy bank said, "well, it was drawn on a
money market account." Now that is what I call living off the float.


That may not be the bank's fault. I know on the last home deal we
did, we received the funds by check instead of electronic money
transfer - it was the way the buyer's lawyer wanted to do it.

Turns out, the lawyer wanted the float. We deposited the check and
when it was proferred for payment, there was a delay because of the
way the escrow account was set up - payment had to be "authorized".

By that afternoon, the funds had been transferred electronically and
the check returned. It's good to have friends in power on the Bar
Association plus having the son of a former State Supreme court Chief
Justice and a former Superior Court judge as your attorney. :)



It was Bank of America. It was the bank's fault! :- Worst bank ever.
Only reason we keep it is because it has ATM machines about everywhere,
and if we need to withdraw some quick bucks, we can do it without those
damned fees.

But I agree, knowing someone at the Bar Association is helpful.

Eisboch February 12th 08 03:35 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:55:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I get a kick out of his broker. He sent an email apology for the 11th
hour
delay and informed me that the buyer had authorized the release of the
downpayment funds to show "good faith". Big deal.


Ah yes - well, that's the way of it.

Good luck.



Just got another email from the buyer's broker. The financing closing was
held and the buyer is forwarding our check, dated Friday, today. So, it
looks like it's a done deal.

I've promised to meet with him when he comes up in March to go over the boat
again in a more leisurely manner, and to deliver a couple of items that I've
had stored at my house (couch, end table, etc.)

Now, should the GB sell, I am going boat shopping.

Eisboch



HK February 12th 08 03:37 PM

Questions from the USCG OUPV or 100-ton exam
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:55:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I get a kick out of his broker. He sent an email apology for the 11th
hour
delay and informed me that the buyer had authorized the release of the
downpayment funds to show "good faith". Big deal.

Ah yes - well, that's the way of it.

Good luck.



Just got another email from the buyer's broker. The financing closing was
held and the buyer is forwarding our check, dated Friday, today. So, it
looks like it's a done deal.

I've promised to meet with him when he comes up in March to go over the boat
again in a more leisurely manner, and to deliver a couple of items that I've
had stored at my house (couch, end table, etc.)

Now, should the GB sell, I am going boat shopping.

Eisboch




You shopping for "fast" or "slow" boat?

Eisboch February 12th 08 03:44 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

That may not be the bank's fault. I know on the last home deal we
did, we received the funds by check instead of electronic money
transfer - it was the way the buyer's lawyer wanted to do it.

Turns out, the lawyer wanted the float. We deposited the check and
when it was proferred for payment, there was a delay because of the
way the escrow account was set up - payment had to be "authorized".

By that afternoon, the funds had been transferred electronically and
the check returned. It's good to have friends in power on the Bar
Association plus having the son of a former State Supreme court Chief
Justice and a former Superior Court judge as your attorney. :)



Wire transfers to an active, main account is not a particularly safe way to
transfer money anymore according to some "experts". The fact that you make
your account number available electronically makes it vulnerable to hacking,
they claim.

I was going to do a wire transfer to receive payment for one of the cars I
sold. Instead of using one of our "real" accounts, I opened another account
by deposited 50 bucks in it, to be used strictly for wire transfers.
Problem is, the guy ended up sending a check, I never used the account and I
forgot about it.
About a year later I received a notice from our bank informing me that my
"account" was overdrawn and I was being charged a penalty. I didn't have a
clue what they were talking about at first, but it turns out it was the wire
transfer account. Because it didn't have a minimum balance, the bank
automatically charged a monthly "service fee" to maintain it and the fees
had exceeded the original $50 deposit.

Eisboch



Eisboch February 12th 08 03:49 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
...




You shopping for "fast" or "slow" boat?


The one I am eyeballing is fast compared to the GB. But, it can also be
operated slowly.
If things come together, I'll give details. Right now I want to keep
ShortWave guessing.

Eisboch



HK February 12th 08 03:50 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...


You shopping for "fast" or "slow" boat?


The one I am eyeballing is fast compared to the GB. But, it can also be
operated slowly.
If things come together, I'll give details. Right now I want to keep
ShortWave guessing.

Eisboch




I hope it's one of those neato "tugs."

Eisboch February 12th 08 03:51 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


Very cool. End of an era and beginning of the new.

What 'cha thinking about buying - assuming Pangea sells that is.

Oh - I got dibs on ride. :)



Top Secret. At least until if and when it happens.

Eisboch




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