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DK February 10th 08 02:33 AM

Apology to gay losers
 
Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:39:06 GMT, Reginald P. Smithers XXI penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:25:01 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:03:15 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause

Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.

You've been had.

(1) Harry didn't post that and then (2) the actual OP then chimed
back
into this thread with his stick to stir things up.

When are you guys going to learn?

Learn what?

Well, basically, that you shouldn't be as stupid as a fish and bite on
every troll or re-troll.....

When the OP actually mungs the "from," you guys still don't get it and
pile on. Geeze, guys, you are going after a straw man (uh, lure). Then
the OP (with no real attempt at stealth) chums the water with more
trolling.... and there is a feeding frenzy. There is no shortage of
straw lures and no shortage of energy to attack same.

Instead of being such idiots, you could have helped me and the wife
compound and polish one side of the boat. We could have gotten done in
time to float it and hit the best watering hole on the ICW.... a view
of the water, hottie little waitresses, shrimp burgers, and the
coldest Red Stripes on earth. With any luck we could have hooked up
with D-unit and company. But n-o-o-o-o-o-o-o you guys want to snipe at
each other.

Ok, I have an advantage. It was 70 degrees here today. You guys still
have icicles hanging from your, uh..... well....... uh.... whatever
they hang from up there.... and you are suffering from cabin fever.

I sure hope it warms up for you guys, soon......

..... hey, sweetheart...... another Red Stripe, please...... ok guys,
gotta go, see ya......

--

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How hard it must be to resist ragging Harry when the opportunity
presents itself. Give us all a break. Lets move on. Enjoy your Red
Stripe Mon.



Ahhh...another boating-related missive from the current chair of the
"obsessed with harry" club, and most likely another boatless loser,
just like most of the rest of them.


You forgot to capitalize yourself.
Want some more love letters from your fan club, Harry? Google yourself
on google groups. You have amassed quite a following.


He reads every post here. His condition prevents him from ignoring
*any* posts.

Chuck Gould February 10th 08 02:34 AM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 9, 5:54�pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:02 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:34?am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:24:38 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:08?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here


wrote:
HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause


Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.


Only if they think it will help in the elections.. The democrats have
been pulling this "tolerant party" farce for decades, the drift
between Obama and Billary has really opened up the curtains to the
blatant bigotry and pandering that is the rule of the day for the
dems...


Read you own post, Scottie.


I always get a kick out of statements like, "Those rotten, no-good, so
and so's and such and such's are despicable because they are so
hateful and intolerant!"


Thanks for starting my day with a smile.


Both of your parties are guilty of pandering. Yours hopes to achieve
and maintain power by toadying up to the equally rich or richer,
piling so much wealth on their ultraprivileged tables that some will
ultimately spill over the edges into your own pockets.


Bull****. Do you consider it 'bad' to be wealthy? Are the rich inherently
immoral? How do you define 'rich'?


Your opposition
?[liberals]
hopes to achieve and maintain power by promising the poor, the
discouraged and the disenfranchised an ever elusive "brighter day",
thereby garnering millions of hours of volunteer time and tens of
millions of votes.


Absolutely true.


So you are both a batch of thieves. The difference is not in what you
do, but who your masters are.


Luke 6: 41-42


One with your attitude towards religion should not quote the Bible.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.


"...steals for the poor." �What horse****!

DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial..
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.

You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.

Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Stop and think, John. (vs react)

Never did I say the Democrats *gave* anything to the poor, just that
Democrats steal from the general public in the name of the poor.
Your party steals from the general public in the name of the rich.
Once again, there is no difference in what either of your parties do-
only in the reasons you give for doing them.

DK February 10th 08 02:35 AM

Apology to gay losers
 
HK wrote:
Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:



You forgot to capitalize yourself.
Want some more love letters from your fan club, Harry? Google
yourself on google groups. You have amassed quite a following.

Ahhh...another boating-related missive from the current chair of the
"obsessed with harry" club, and most likely another boatless loser,
just like most of the rest of them.

I've never been low enough to try to be you, JimmyBobBoy.


He He You're doing great Harry.



Ahhh...another boating-related missive from the current chair of the
"obsessed with harry" club, and likely another boatless loser,
just like most of the rest of them.


He learned to cut and paste, too. Amazing progress.

HK February 10th 08 02:36 AM

Apology to gay losers
 
JimH wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:


You forgot to capitalize yourself.
Want some more love letters from your fan club, Harry? Google yourself
on google groups. You have amassed quite a following.
Ahhh...another boating-related missive from the current chair of the
"obsessed with harry" club, and most likely another boatless loser,
just like most of the rest of them.

I've never been low enough to try to be you, JimmyBobBoy.

He He You're doing great Harry.


Are you Jim from Florida?



Probably, though I don't keep track of the a**holes here. I believe
daily sniffing of the a**hole's is a job shared by Herring and Reggie.

HK February 10th 08 02:41 AM

Apology to gay losers
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 9, 5:54�pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:02 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:34?am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:24:38 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:08?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause
Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.
Only if they think it will help in the elections.. The democrats have
been pulling this "tolerant party" farce for decades, the drift
between Obama and Billary has really opened up the curtains to the
blatant bigotry and pandering that is the rule of the day for the
dems...
Read you own post, Scottie.
I always get a kick out of statements like, "Those rotten, no-good, so
and so's and such and such's are despicable because they are so
hateful and intolerant!"
Thanks for starting my day with a smile.
Both of your parties are guilty of pandering. Yours hopes to achieve
and maintain power by toadying up to the equally rich or richer,
piling so much wealth on their ultraprivileged tables that some will
ultimately spill over the edges into your own pockets.
Bull****. Do you consider it 'bad' to be wealthy? Are the rich inherently
immoral? How do you define 'rich'?
Your opposition
?[liberals]
hopes to achieve and maintain power by promising the poor, the
discouraged and the disenfranchised an ever elusive "brighter day",
thereby garnering millions of hours of volunteer time and tens of
millions of votes.
Absolutely true.
So you are both a batch of thieves. The difference is not in what you
do, but who your masters are.
Luke 6: 41-42
One with your attitude towards religion should not quote the Bible.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.

"...steals for the poor." �What horse****!

DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial.
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.

You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.

Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Stop and think, John. (vs react)

Never did I say the Democrats *gave* anything to the poor, just that
Democrats steal from the general public in the name of the poor.
Your party steals from the general public in the name of the rich.
Once again, there is no difference in what either of your parties do-
only in the reasons you give for doing them.



Herring is getting more and more irrational as he ages.

John H.[_3_] February 10th 08 02:51 AM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:34:36 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Feb 9, 5:54?pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:02 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:34?am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:24:38 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:08?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here


wrote:
HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause


Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.


Only if they think it will help in the elections.. The democrats have
been pulling this "tolerant party" farce for decades, the drift
between Obama and Billary has really opened up the curtains to the
blatant bigotry and pandering that is the rule of the day for the
dems...


Read you own post, Scottie.


I always get a kick out of statements like, "Those rotten, no-good, so
and so's and such and such's are despicable because they are so
hateful and intolerant!"


Thanks for starting my day with a smile.


Both of your parties are guilty of pandering. Yours hopes to achieve
and maintain power by toadying up to the equally rich or richer,
piling so much wealth on their ultraprivileged tables that some will
ultimately spill over the edges into your own pockets.


Bull****. Do you consider it 'bad' to be wealthy? Are the rich inherently
immoral? How do you define 'rich'?


Your opposition
?[liberals]
hopes to achieve and maintain power by promising the poor, the
discouraged and the disenfranchised an ever elusive "brighter day",
thereby garnering millions of hours of volunteer time and tens of
millions of votes.


Absolutely true.


So you are both a batch of thieves. The difference is not in what you
do, but who your masters are.


Luke 6: 41-42


One with your attitude towards religion should not quote the Bible.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.


"...steals for the poor." ?What horse****!

DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial.
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.

You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.

Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Stop and think, John. (vs react)

Never did I say the Democrats *gave* anything to the poor, just that
Democrats steal from the general public in the name of the poor.
Your party steals from the general public in the name of the rich.
Once again, there is no difference in what either of your parties do-
only in the reasons you give for doing them.


I read. You said, "...the other party that steals *for* (emphasis added)
the poor." Perhaps that slip was Freudian?

I still find your opinion to be horse****. But, that's just my opinion of
your opinion!
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 10th 08 02:53 AM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:41:55 -0500, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 9, 5:54?pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:02 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:34?am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:24:38 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:08?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause
Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.
Only if they think it will help in the elections.. The democrats have
been pulling this "tolerant party" farce for decades, the drift
between Obama and Billary has really opened up the curtains to the
blatant bigotry and pandering that is the rule of the day for the
dems...
Read you own post, Scottie.
I always get a kick out of statements like, "Those rotten, no-good, so
and so's and such and such's are despicable because they are so
hateful and intolerant!"
Thanks for starting my day with a smile.
Both of your parties are guilty of pandering. Yours hopes to achieve
and maintain power by toadying up to the equally rich or richer,
piling so much wealth on their ultraprivileged tables that some will
ultimately spill over the edges into your own pockets.
Bull****. Do you consider it 'bad' to be wealthy? Are the rich inherently
immoral? How do you define 'rich'?
Your opposition
?[liberals]
hopes to achieve and maintain power by promising the poor, the
discouraged and the disenfranchised an ever elusive "brighter day",
thereby garnering millions of hours of volunteer time and tens of
millions of votes.
Absolutely true.
So you are both a batch of thieves. The difference is not in what you
do, but who your masters are.
Luke 6: 41-42
One with your attitude towards religion should not quote the Bible.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.
"...steals for the poor." ?What horse****!

DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial.
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.

You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.

Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Stop and think, John. (vs react)

Never did I say the Democrats *gave* anything to the poor, just that
Democrats steal from the general public in the name of the poor.
Your party steals from the general public in the name of the rich.
Once again, there is no difference in what either of your parties do-
only in the reasons you give for doing them.



Herring is getting more and more irrational as he ages.


Well Harry, I see you've still not grown the balls to come out from behind
the pretend Bozo's Bin.
--
John H

Chuck Gould February 10th 08 06:08 AM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 9, 6:51�pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:34:36 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 9, 5:54?pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:02 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:34?am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:24:38 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:08?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here


wrote:
HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause


Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.


Only if they think it will help in the elections.. The democrats have
been pulling this "tolerant party" farce for decades, the drift
between Obama and Billary has really opened up the curtains to the
blatant bigotry and pandering that is the rule of the day for the
dems...


Read you own post, Scottie.


I always get a kick out of statements like, "Those rotten, no-good, so
and so's and such and such's are despicable because they are so
hateful and intolerant!"


Thanks for starting my day with a smile.


Both of your parties are guilty of pandering. Yours hopes to achieve
and maintain power by toadying up to the equally rich or richer,
piling so much wealth on their ultraprivileged tables that some will
ultimately spill over the edges into your own pockets.


Bull****. Do you consider it 'bad' to be wealthy? Are the rich inherently
immoral? How do you define 'rich'?


Your opposition
?[liberals]
hopes to achieve and maintain power by promising the poor, the
discouraged and the disenfranchised an ever elusive "brighter day",
thereby garnering millions of hours of volunteer time and tens of
millions of votes.


Absolutely true.


So you are both a batch of thieves. The difference is not in what you
do, but who your masters are.


Luke 6: 41-42


One with your attitude towards religion should not quote the Bible.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.


"...steals for the poor." ?What horse****!


DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial.
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.


You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.


Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Stop and think, John. (vs react)


Never did I say the Democrats *gave* anything to the poor, just that
Democrats steal from the general public in the name of the poor.
Your party steals from the general public in the name of the rich.
Once again, there is no difference in what either of your parties do-
only in the reasons you give for doing them.


I read. You said, "...the other party that steals *for* (emphasis added)
the poor." Perhaps that slip was Freudian?

I still find your opinion to be horse****. But, that's just my opinion of
your opinion!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Interesting note: I don't see any denial that your party steals for
(or in the name of) the rich, only a protest that the Democrats don't
really steal for (or in the name of) the poor.

We ran into one of my wife's oldest (longest standing) friends at a
play tonight. This lady organizes the D caucus in her precinct. Four
years ago she had about 20 people attending. This year she had to cram
over 80 people into her house, yard, and garage. Her precint gets 5
delegates to the state D convention, and the crowd elected 4 Obama and
1 Clinton delegate.

Somethin's happenin' here
What it is ain't exactly clear
But it's time to stop, "Hey! What's the sound?"
Everybody look what's goin down.......

I hope that the next POTUS (from either the tweedle-dee or the tweedle-
dum party) does a better job of reaching across the aisle. It's time
for people to stop reacting on an emotional level to the mere mention
of the name of the opposing political party. That's not how adults
solve problems.

John H.[_3_] February 10th 08 12:42 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:08:11 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Some snippage


- Show quoted text -


I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.


"...steals for the poor." ?What horse****!


DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial.
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.


You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.


Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Stop and think, John. (vs react)


Never did I say the Democrats *gave* anything to the poor, just that
Democrats steal from the general public in the name of the poor.
Your party steals from the general public in the name of the rich.
Once again, there is no difference in what either of your parties do-
only in the reasons you give for doing them.


I read. You said, "...the other party that steals *for* (emphasis added)
the poor." Perhaps that slip was Freudian?

I still find your opinion to be horse****. But, that's just my opinion of
your opinion!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Interesting note: I don't see any denial that your party steals for
(or in the name of) the rich, only a protest that the Democrats don't
really steal for (or in the name of) the poor.

We ran into one of my wife's oldest (longest standing) friends at a
play tonight. This lady organizes the D caucus in her precinct. Four
years ago she had about 20 people attending. This year she had to cram
over 80 people into her house, yard, and garage. Her precint gets 5
delegates to the state D convention, and the crowd elected 4 Obama and
1 Clinton delegate.

Somethin's happenin' here
What it is ain't exactly clear
But it's time to stop, "Hey! What's the sound?"
Everybody look what's goin down.......

I hope that the next POTUS (from either the tweedle-dee or the tweedle-
dum party) does a better job of reaching across the aisle. It's time
for people to stop reacting on an emotional level to the mere mention
of the name of the opposing political party. That's not how adults
solve problems.


No, I didn't address your assertion that my party 'steals for the wealthy'.
It made little sense, and was therefore not addressed.

Now that we've decided the Democrats 'steal *from* the poor' (but pretend
otherwise), perhaps you'd explain your second assertion.

In my view, the Democrats *and* the Republicans steal for the wealthy.
You'd surely put Ted Kennedy, George Soros, Harry Ried, etc. amongst the
wealthy, yes?
--
John H

HK February 10th 08 01:26 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:28:10 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:05:05 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:

Instead of being such idiots, you could have helped me and the wife
compound and polish one side of the boat. We could have gotten done in
time to float it and hit the best watering hole on the ICW.... a view
of the water, hottie little waitresses, shrimp burgers, and the
coldest Red Stripes on earth. With any luck we could have hooked up
with D-unit and company. But n-o-o-o-o-o-o-o you guys want to snipe at
each other.
Well, you could have stopped off at Tri-State today, where, while going
into the fishing flea market, you would have noticed two just delivered
30+' Gradys, each with a pair of 350s on the transom. Jeez.
If I had that sort of expendable income...... I'd be all over it!


I didn't even look closely. When I see that sort of array on the stern,
I simply think..."Another way to support Big Oil..." And think of the
truck and trailer you'd need to haul 'em! Gotta be 12,000-14,000 pounds
in those rigs.

I'm pretty sure they were 33's.

Nice boats, though.


No way to trailer that sort of boat, short of a tractor trailer and
(even worse) the oversize permits. I think the narrowest model, 33' or
over, is almost a 12' beam.



What? My 4Runner won't do? Ack! I better call and cancel the order!

Seriously, though, I asked my salesman there how boat sales were going,
and he said they were moving just a little less than the usual number of
new larger boats, that middle range boats were "down some," and smaller
boat sales had "fallen flat." Larger boats at that dealership are the
big Gradys, of course, and I'd guess the "middle range" includes the
23-30 foot Parkers and Gradys, with the smaller boats the Parkers and
Gradys the size of mine or smaller. He said the downturn was due mostly
to declining economic conditions, rather than the price of fuel.


John H.[_3_] February 10th 08 01:39 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:28:08 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:38:58 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene, cut folks some slack!

The only reason that *wasn't* posted by Harry was because someone else
thought of it first. It is exactly the thing Harry would have posted had he
thought of it.

Now, there.


Slack for what? Impersonations?

No, for not checking whether or not the post had come from Harry.


I know it must be comforting to all posters that, when you are away,
other people will be here posting in your name with "your thoughts" so
that nobody will be without "your" posts and/or "your" responses....

Think about it..... and think about the motivations of a poster
impersonating another poster with something that they know is going to
be inflammatory and then jumping back into the fray as themselves.

Historically, Harry isn't the only victim of that kind of crap and it
only serves to divide and inflame the newsgroup..... and *never* in
the direction of *boats*.

What was posted, in this case, could not possibly further divide the group.


There's also the matter of self fulfilling prophecy. I think we have
one poster that has absolutely gone off the deep end... mostly because
he feels that he is expected to.....


There is that bit of truth, and it ain't Jim.

Now, go do some kind if rain dance..... you are *really* going to need
some, if you expect to be boating down here, when you get moved....


We're now thinking of the New Bern area. Looks like water levels there may
not be as much of a problem as Falls Lake.

Do you know anything about the New Bern area?
--
John H

[email protected] February 10th 08 01:53 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 9, 5:28*pm, HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:05:05 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


Gene Kearns wrote:


Instead of being such idiots, you could have helped me and the wife
compound and polish one side of the boat. We could have gotten done in
time to float it and hit the best watering hole on the ICW.... a view
of the water, hottie little waitresses, shrimp burgers, and the
coldest Red Stripes on earth. With any luck we could have hooked up
with D-unit and company. But n-o-o-o-o-o-o-o you guys want to snipe at
each other.


Well, you could have stopped off at Tri-State today, where, while going
into the fishing flea market, you would have noticed two just delivered
30+' Gradys, each with a pair of 350s on the transom. Jeez.


If I had that sort of expendable income...... I'd be all over it!


I didn't even look closely. When I see that sort of array on the stern,
I simply think..."Another way to support Big Oil..." And think of the
truck and trailer you'd need to haul 'em! Gotta be 12,000-14,000 pounds
in those rigs.

I'm pretty sure they were 33's.

Nice boats, though.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What's the burn rate on that Zimmerman like lobster boat?

[email protected] February 10th 08 01:55 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 9, 9:36*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
. ..
"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:


You forgot to capitalize yourself.
Want some more love letters from your fan club, Harry? Google yourself
on google groups. You have amassed quite a following.
Ahhh...another boating-related missive from the current chair of the
"obsessed with harry" club, and most likely another boatless loser,
just like most of the rest of them.


I've never been low enough to try to be you, JimmyBobBoy.
He He You're doing great Harry.


Are you Jim from Florida?


Probably, though I don't keep track of the a**holes here. I believe
daily sniffing of the a**hole's is a job shared by Herring and Reggie.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Name calling. What sophistication and culture it takes to do that......

[email protected] February 10th 08 02:07 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 9, 8:54*pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:02 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:34?am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:24:38 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:08?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here


wrote:
HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause


Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.


Only if they think it will help in the elections.. The democrats have
been pulling this "tolerant party" farce for decades, the drift
between Obama and Billary has really opened up the curtains to the
blatant bigotry and pandering that is the rule of the day for the
dems...


Read you own post, Scottie.


I always get a kick out of statements like, "Those rotten, no-good, so
and so's and such and such's are despicable because they are so
hateful and intolerant!"


Thanks for starting my day with a smile.


Both of your parties are guilty of pandering. Yours hopes to achieve
and maintain power by toadying up to the equally rich or richer,
piling so much wealth on their ultraprivileged tables that some will
ultimately spill over the edges into your own pockets.


Bull****. Do you consider it 'bad' to be wealthy? Are the rich inherently
immoral? How do you define 'rich'?


Your opposition
?[liberals]
hopes to achieve and maintain power by promising the poor, the
discouraged and the disenfranchised an ever elusive "brighter day",
thereby garnering millions of hours of volunteer time and tens of
millions of votes.


Absolutely true.


So you are both a batch of thieves. The difference is not in what you
do, but who your masters are.


Luke 6: 41-42


One with your attitude towards religion should not quote the Bible.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.


"...steals for the poor." *What horse****!

DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial..
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.

You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.

Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Ding ding ding.... and we have a winner... If no child left behind
works, the dems lose their voter base...

HK February 10th 08 02:22 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:13:03 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

No way to trailer that sort of boat, short of a tractor trailer and
(even worse) the oversize permits. I think the narrowest model, 33' or
over, is almost a 12' beam.


One of the captains I occasionally back up has a Hydra-Sports 330 CC
that he trailers to places when fishing is hot here or there and for
tournaments over 75 miles from his home base in Bristol RI.

That boat has a 10.5' beam and with the trailer, it's close to 11'
wide. The interesting thing is that he doesn't need a special permit
to haul the boat - he does need an oversize sign (he tows it with a
Ford F-450 dual) front and rear. All he needs to do is to call the
DOT in RI, pay a small fee (like $25) and he has his permit. He can
also do it online. When he goes to MA or NY, same thing - all done
online, quick and easy.

The Canyon 33 is almost a foot wider than the Hydra-Sports - 11'7"
which isn't too wide for a trailer - it's just under 12' which I think
is the total limit on non-special wide load permits. I could be wrong
though. I know that there are specialty trailer makers (Harry bought
his trailer from one that I know of) that can build a proper trailer
that's not wider than the boat it'self.

The nice thing about the Contender 31 I had was that it was under 10'
- 9'6" - and was a piece of cake to trailer around and I didn't need a
special permit for it when I did trailer it which wasn't often.


The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet
behind me. Always gives me the willies.

[email protected] February 10th 08 02:25 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 10, 9:22*am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:13:03 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:


No way to trailer that sort of boat, short of a tractor trailer and
(even worse) the oversize permits. I think the narrowest model, 33' or
over, is almost a 12' beam.


One of the captains I occasionally back up has a Hydra-Sports 330 CC
that he trailers to places when fishing is hot here or there and for
tournaments over 75 *miles from his home base in Bristol RI.


That boat has a 10.5' beam and with the trailer, it's close to 11'
wide. *The interesting thing is that he doesn't need a special permit
to haul the boat - he does need an oversize sign (he tows it with a
Ford F-450 dual) front and rear. *All he needs to do is to call the
DOT in RI, pay a small fee (like $25) and he has his permit. *He can
also do it online. *When he goes to MA or NY, same thing - all done
online, quick and easy.


The Canyon 33 is almost a foot wider than the Hydra-Sports - 11'7"
which isn't too wide for a trailer - it's just under 12' which I think
is the total limit on non-special wide load permits. *I could be wrong
though. *I know that there are specialty trailer makers (Harry bought
his trailer from one that I know of) that can build a proper trailer
that's not wider than the boat it'self.


The nice thing about the Contender 31 I had was that it was under 10'
- 9'6" - and was a piece of cake to trailer around and I didn't need a
special permit for it when I did trailer it which wasn't often.


The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet
behind me. *Always gives me the willies.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If you drive fast enough, the boat can't catch you...

HK February 10th 08 02:29 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:22 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:13:03 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:
No way to trailer that sort of boat, short of a tractor trailer and
(even worse) the oversize permits. I think the narrowest model, 33' or
over, is almost a 12' beam.
One of the captains I occasionally back up has a Hydra-Sports 330 CC
that he trailers to places when fishing is hot here or there and for
tournaments over 75 miles from his home base in Bristol RI.
That boat has a 10.5' beam and with the trailer, it's close to 11'
wide. The interesting thing is that he doesn't need a special permit
to haul the boat - he does need an oversize sign (he tows it with a
Ford F-450 dual) front and rear. All he needs to do is to call the
DOT in RI, pay a small fee (like $25) and he has his permit. He can
also do it online. When he goes to MA or NY, same thing - all done
online, quick and easy.
The Canyon 33 is almost a foot wider than the Hydra-Sports - 11'7"
which isn't too wide for a trailer - it's just under 12' which I think
is the total limit on non-special wide load permits. I could be wrong
though. I know that there are specialty trailer makers (Harry bought
his trailer from one that I know of) that can build a proper trailer
that's not wider than the boat it'self.
The nice thing about the Contender 31 I had was that it was under 10'
- 9'6" - and was a piece of cake to trailer around and I didn't need a
special permit for it when I did trailer it which wasn't often.

The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet
behind me. Always gives me the willies.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If you drive fast enough, the boat can't catch you...



Gee, I never thought of *that*.

[email protected] February 10th 08 02:32 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 10, 9:29*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:22 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:13:03 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:
No way to trailer that sort of boat, short of a tractor trailer and
(even worse) the oversize permits. I think the narrowest model, 33' or
over, is almost a 12' beam.
One of the captains I occasionally back up has a Hydra-Sports 330 CC
that he trailers to places when fishing is hot here or there and for
tournaments over 75 *miles from his home base in Bristol RI.
That boat has a 10.5' beam and with the trailer, it's close to 11'
wide. *The interesting thing is that he doesn't need a special permit
to haul the boat - he does need an oversize sign (he tows it with a
Ford F-450 dual) front and rear. *All he needs to do is to call the
DOT in RI, pay a small fee (like $25) and he has his permit. *He can
also do it online. *When he goes to MA or NY, same thing - all done
online, quick and easy.
The Canyon 33 is almost a foot wider than the Hydra-Sports - 11'7"
which isn't too wide for a trailer - it's just under 12' which I think
is the total limit on non-special wide load permits. *I could be wrong
though. *I know that there are specialty trailer makers (Harry bought
his trailer from one that I know of) that can build a proper trailer
that's not wider than the boat it'self.
The nice thing about the Contender 31 I had was that it was under 10'
- 9'6" - and was a piece of cake to trailer around and I didn't need a
special permit for it when I did trailer it which wasn't often.
The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet
behind me. *Always gives me the willies.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


If you drive fast enough, the boat can't catch you...


Gee, I never thought of *that*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


See, now can I drive your boat??

HK February 10th 08 02:43 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:29 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:22 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:13:03 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:
No way to trailer that sort of boat, short of a tractor trailer and
(even worse) the oversize permits. I think the narrowest model, 33' or
over, is almost a 12' beam.
One of the captains I occasionally back up has a Hydra-Sports 330 CC
that he trailers to places when fishing is hot here or there and for
tournaments over 75 miles from his home base in Bristol RI.
That boat has a 10.5' beam and with the trailer, it's close to 11'
wide. The interesting thing is that he doesn't need a special permit
to haul the boat - he does need an oversize sign (he tows it with a
Ford F-450 dual) front and rear. All he needs to do is to call the
DOT in RI, pay a small fee (like $25) and he has his permit. He can
also do it online. When he goes to MA or NY, same thing - all done
online, quick and easy.
The Canyon 33 is almost a foot wider than the Hydra-Sports - 11'7"
which isn't too wide for a trailer - it's just under 12' which I think
is the total limit on non-special wide load permits. I could be wrong
though. I know that there are specialty trailer makers (Harry bought
his trailer from one that I know of) that can build a proper trailer
that's not wider than the boat it'self.
The nice thing about the Contender 31 I had was that it was under 10'
- 9'6" - and was a piece of cake to trailer around and I didn't need a
special permit for it when I did trailer it which wasn't often.
The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet
behind me. Always gives me the willies.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If you drive fast enough, the boat can't catch you...

Gee, I never thought of *that*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


See, now can I drive your boat??



Sure, while it is on the trailer. Seriously, if you get your ass down
here, you're on. But I don't *do* winter fishing. I'd say - April - at
the earliest.

[email protected] February 10th 08 02:56 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 10, 9:43*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:29 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:22 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:13:03 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:
No way to trailer that sort of boat, short of a tractor trailer and
(even worse) the oversize permits. I think the narrowest model, 33' or
over, is almost a 12' beam.
One of the captains I occasionally back up has a Hydra-Sports 330 CC
that he trailers to places when fishing is hot here or there and for
tournaments over 75 *miles from his home base in Bristol RI.
That boat has a 10.5' beam and with the trailer, it's close to 11'
wide. *The interesting thing is that he doesn't need a special permit
to haul the boat - he does need an oversize sign (he tows it with a
Ford F-450 dual) front and rear. *All he needs to do is to call the
DOT in RI, pay a small fee (like $25) and he has his permit. *He can
also do it online. *When he goes to MA or NY, same thing - all done
online, quick and easy.
The Canyon 33 is almost a foot wider than the Hydra-Sports - 11'7"
which isn't too wide for a trailer - it's just under 12' which I think
is the total limit on non-special wide load permits. *I could be wrong
though. *I know that there are specialty trailer makers (Harry bought
his trailer from one that I know of) that can build a proper trailer
that's not wider than the boat it'self.
The nice thing about the Contender 31 I had was that it was under 10'
- 9'6" - and was a piece of cake to trailer around and I didn't need a
special permit for it when I did trailer it which wasn't often.
The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet
behind me. *Always gives me the willies.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If you drive fast enough, the boat can't catch you...
Gee, I never thought of *that*.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


See, now can I drive your boat??


Sure, while it is on the trailer. Seriously, if you get your ass down
here, you're on. But I don't *do* winter fishing. I'd say - April - at
the earliest.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I am planning to take you up on that this summer Harry, count on it.
But you don't want me driving, I really can not see at all, ask Tom...
"What huge green tower in the water? OOOOPs. was that a lobsta' pot I
just casted into?? I can't really catch fish all that well either,
but I can sure tie a decent knot;)

John H.[_3_] February 10th 08 03:20 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:07:26 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 9, 8:54*pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:02 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:34?am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:24:38 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:08?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here


wrote:
HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause


Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.


Only if they think it will help in the elections.. The democrats have
been pulling this "tolerant party" farce for decades, the drift
between Obama and Billary has really opened up the curtains to the
blatant bigotry and pandering that is the rule of the day for the
dems...


Read you own post, Scottie.


I always get a kick out of statements like, "Those rotten, no-good, so
and so's and such and such's are despicable because they are so
hateful and intolerant!"


Thanks for starting my day with a smile.


Both of your parties are guilty of pandering. Yours hopes to achieve
and maintain power by toadying up to the equally rich or richer,
piling so much wealth on their ultraprivileged tables that some will
ultimately spill over the edges into your own pockets.


Bull****. Do you consider it 'bad' to be wealthy? Are the rich inherently
immoral? How do you define 'rich'?


Your opposition
?[liberals]
hopes to achieve and maintain power by promising the poor, the
discouraged and the disenfranchised an ever elusive "brighter day",
thereby garnering millions of hours of volunteer time and tens of
millions of votes.


Absolutely true.


So you are both a batch of thieves. The difference is not in what you
do, but who your masters are.


Luke 6: 41-42


One with your attitude towards religion should not quote the Bible.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.


"...steals for the poor." *What horse****!

DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial.
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.

You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.

Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Ding ding ding.... and we have a winner... If no child left behind
works, the dems lose their voter base...


Which is their big reason for being against it - with nothing to offer in
its place except more money for union teachers.
--
John H

BAR February 10th 08 03:59 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:51�pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:34:36 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 9, 5:54?pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:02 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:34?am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:24:38 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:08?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause
Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.
Only if they think it will help in the elections.. The democrats have
been pulling this "tolerant party" farce for decades, the drift
between Obama and Billary has really opened up the curtains to the
blatant bigotry and pandering that is the rule of the day for the
dems...
Read you own post, Scottie.
I always get a kick out of statements like, "Those rotten, no-good, so
and so's and such and such's are despicable because they are so
hateful and intolerant!"
Thanks for starting my day with a smile.
Both of your parties are guilty of pandering. Yours hopes to achieve
and maintain power by toadying up to the equally rich or richer,
piling so much wealth on their ultraprivileged tables that some will
ultimately spill over the edges into your own pockets.
Bull****. Do you consider it 'bad' to be wealthy? Are the rich inherently
immoral? How do you define 'rich'?
Your opposition
?[liberals]
hopes to achieve and maintain power by promising the poor, the
discouraged and the disenfranchised an ever elusive "brighter day",
thereby garnering millions of hours of volunteer time and tens of
millions of votes.
Absolutely true.
So you are both a batch of thieves. The difference is not in what you
do, but who your masters are.
Luke 6: 41-42
One with your attitude towards religion should not quote the Bible.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.
"...steals for the poor." ?What horse****!
DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial.
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.
You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.
Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Stop and think, John. (vs react)
Never did I say the Democrats *gave* anything to the poor, just that
Democrats steal from the general public in the name of the poor.
Your party steals from the general public in the name of the rich.
Once again, there is no difference in what either of your parties do-
only in the reasons you give for doing them.

I read. You said, "...the other party that steals *for* (emphasis added)
the poor." Perhaps that slip was Freudian?

I still find your opinion to be horse****. But, that's just my opinion of
your opinion!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

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Interesting note: I don't see any denial that your party steals for
(or in the name of) the rich, only a protest that the Democrats don't
really steal for (or in the name of) the poor.


"Stealing for (or in the name of) the rich" you have got to be kidding
Chuck. Do you really believe that the Republican party has a plank in
their platform that says this?

Oppression of the masses is a trait of the Democrat party.

We ran into one of my wife's oldest (longest standing) friends at a
play tonight. This lady organizes the D caucus in her precinct. Four
years ago she had about 20 people attending. This year she had to cram
over 80 people into her house, yard, and garage. Her precint gets 5
delegates to the state D convention, and the crowd elected 4 Obama and
1 Clinton delegate.


Obama has captured hope and optimism, plain and simple. Clinton is
whiny, grating and abusive.

Somethin's happenin' here
What it is ain't exactly clear
But it's time to stop, "Hey! What's the sound?"
Everybody look what's goin down.......

I hope that the next POTUS (from either the tweedle-dee or the tweedle-
dum party) does a better job of reaching across the aisle. It's time
for people to stop reacting on an emotional level to the mere mention
of the name of the opposing political party. That's not how adults
solve problems.


Our choice in this next election is how much our taxes are going to
increase and how much of our rights and freedoms we are going to loose.
The lose of rights and freedoms is not an immediate action they will be
lost over time and it will be a 50 year lose.


Eisboch February 10th 08 04:03 PM

Apology to gay losers
 

"HK" wrote in message
...


The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet behind
me. Always gives me the willies.


pansy

Eisboch



Chuck Gould February 10th 08 04:06 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 10, 6:07�am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 8:54�pm, John H. wrote:





On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:02 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:34?am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:24:38 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:08?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here


wrote:
HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause


Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.


Only if they think it will help in the elections.. The democrats have
been pulling this "tolerant party" farce for decades, the drift
between Obama and Billary has really opened up the curtains to the
blatant bigotry and pandering that is the rule of the day for the
dems...


Read you own post, Scottie.


I always get a kick out of statements like, "Those rotten, no-good, so
and so's and such and such's are despicable because they are so
hateful and intolerant!"


Thanks for starting my day with a smile.


Both of your parties are guilty of pandering. Yours hopes to achieve
and maintain power by toadying up to the equally rich or richer,
piling so much wealth on their ultraprivileged tables that some will
ultimately spill over the edges into your own pockets.


Bull****. Do you consider it 'bad' to be wealthy? Are the rich inherently
immoral? How do you define 'rich'?


Your opposition
?[liberals]
hopes to achieve and maintain power by promising the poor, the
discouraged and the disenfranchised an ever elusive "brighter day",
thereby garnering millions of hours of volunteer time and tens of
millions of votes.


Absolutely true.


So you are both a batch of thieves. The difference is not in what you
do, but who your masters are.


Luke 6: 41-42


One with your attitude towards religion should not quote the Bible.
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I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.


"...steals for the poor." �What horse****!


DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial.
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.


You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.


Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
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Ding ding ding.... and we have a winner... If no child left behind
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Oh please. Straight off a Limbaugh script.

Compare the average level of educational achievement on, say, the left
coast with the average education in customarily red states like
Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri. Then reevaluate. Thanks.

Educated and intelligent people arrive at differing conclusions. If
they didn't all of that education would be wasted. The truly educated
don't ultimately migrate to the "One True Fact", but learn to use
their mental resources to think in a critical manner. Some people will
posit: "Those who disagree with me do so because they aren't very
bright." That's a laugh. What isn't very bright in an expectation that
all quality thought will lead to the same, lock step, conclusion.

Some of the educated who feel the urge to support a political party
will support the R's. Others will support the D's. Others will pick
and choose candidates from both parties and make personal, rather than
party dictated, decisions regarding issues.


HK February 10th 08 04:09 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet behind
me. Always gives me the willies.


pansy

Eisboch



Yeah, well, I'd prefer to die after a weekend in the sack with Salma
Hayek, Penelope Cruz and Marion Cotillard than squished by a runaway
boat trailer.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 10th 08 04:16 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking
out the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two
feet behind me. Always gives me the willies.


pansy

Eisboch


Yeah, well, I'd prefer to die after a weekend in the sack with Salma
Hayek, Penelope Cruz and Marion Cotillard than squished by a runaway
boat trailer.


Harry,
I think you seem to focus on events that will NEVER happen.


Don White February 10th 08 04:39 PM

Apology to gay losers
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Our choice in this next election is how much our taxes are going to
increase and how much of our rights and freedoms we are going to loose.
The lose of rights and freedoms is not an immediate action they will be
lost over time and it will be a 50 year lose.




Hasn't George W already limited your precious freedoms?
Your taxes should be increased to pay for his adventures overseas....why
should your kids & grandkids pay?



[email protected] February 10th 08 04:42 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:06:06 -0800, Chuck Gould wrote:


Compare the average level of educational achievement on, say, the left
coast with the average education in customarily red states like
Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri. Then reevaluate. Thanks.


It's worse than that:

http://www.thebluestate.com/2005/10/...06_smarte.html

Note, the 21 states that spend the least on education, are all red.


Jim February 10th 08 05:06 PM

Apology to gay losers
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet
behind me. Always gives me the willies.


pansy

Eisboch


Yeah, well, I'd prefer to die after a weekend in the sack with Salma
Hayek, Penelope Cruz and Marion Cotillard than squished by a runaway boat
trailer.

Are you still living with your wife?


Eisboch February 10th 08 05:15 PM

Apology to gay losers
 

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:06:06 -0800, Chuck Gould wrote:


Compare the average level of educational achievement on, say, the left
coast with the average education in customarily red states like
Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri. Then reevaluate. Thanks.


It's worse than that:

http://www.thebluestate.com/2005/10/...06_smarte.html

Note, the 21 states that spend the least on education, are all red.



I always get a kick out of the rationalization that education (or money
spent on it) automatically implies"smartness" in people.
There's a lot of stupid people with years of advanced degrees, just as there
are many "smart" people with limited education.

Eisboch



John H.[_3_] February 10th 08 06:01 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:56:16 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:39:43 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


There's also the matter of self fulfilling prophecy. I think we have
one poster that has absolutely gone off the deep end... mostly because
he feels that he is expected to.....


There is that bit of truth, and it ain't Jim.


Very true.

Now, go do some kind if rain dance..... you are *really* going to need
some, if you expect to be boating down here, when you get moved....


We're now thinking of the New Bern area. Looks like water levels there may
not be as much of a problem as Falls Lake.

Do you know anything about the New Bern area?


Yeah.... that is a totally different area. I like the area. From a
boating perspective (actually every) it is a much better place to
settle.

There is no shortage of water in that area. There is a lot of area in
the sound to fish and boat.

One of the local best places is Oriental.
http://www.visitoriental.com/

You might, also, extend your wanderings down Route 70 as far as
Morehead City. There is much better access to the "outside" there and
they are a gazillion miles closer to the Gulf Stream than we are.


Thanks Gene. We will give that area a peak also.
--
John H

Chuck Gould February 10th 08 06:07 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 10, 9:15�am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:06:06 -0800, Chuck Gould wrote:


Compare the average level of educational achievement on, say, the left
coast with the average education in customarily red states like
Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri. Then reevaluate. Thanks.


It's worse than that:


http://www.thebluestate.com/2005/10/...06_smarte.html


Note, the 21 states that spend the least on education, are all red.


I always get a kick out of the rationalization that education (or money
spent on it) �automatically implies"smartness" in people.
There's a lot of stupid people with years of advanced degrees, just as there
are many "smart" people with limited education.

Eisboch


I agree with you entirely.

The basis for even considering education in the discussion was a claim
that D's oppose "No Child Left Behind", and thaty they do so because
if the amount of education were increased across the country the
number of people supporting the D's would decrease.

Calif Bill February 10th 08 06:33 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:13:03 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

No way to trailer that sort of boat, short of a tractor trailer and
(even worse) the oversize permits. I think the narrowest model, 33' or
over, is almost a 12' beam.


One of the captains I occasionally back up has a Hydra-Sports 330 CC
that he trailers to places when fishing is hot here or there and for
tournaments over 75 miles from his home base in Bristol RI.

That boat has a 10.5' beam and with the trailer, it's close to 11'
wide. The interesting thing is that he doesn't need a special permit
to haul the boat - he does need an oversize sign (he tows it with a
Ford F-450 dual) front and rear. All he needs to do is to call the
DOT in RI, pay a small fee (like $25) and he has his permit. He can
also do it online. When he goes to MA or NY, same thing - all done
online, quick and easy.

The Canyon 33 is almost a foot wider than the Hydra-Sports - 11'7"
which isn't too wide for a trailer - it's just under 12' which I think
is the total limit on non-special wide load permits. I could be wrong
though. I know that there are specialty trailer makers (Harry bought
his trailer from one that I know of) that can build a proper trailer
that's not wider than the boat it'self.

The nice thing about the Contender 31 I had was that it was under 10'
- 9'6" - and was a piece of cake to trailer around and I didn't need a
special permit for it when I did trailer it which wasn't often.


In California, you get an annual permit for the wide load boat. I think
$90/annum. The rules tell you when and where you can not tow. Bascially,
you can not tow in commute times on the highway.



Calif Bill February 10th 08 06:35 PM

Apology to gay losers
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet
behind me. Always gives me the willies.


pansy

Eisboch


Yeah, well, I'd prefer to die after a weekend in the sack with Salma
Hayek, Penelope Cruz and Marion Cotillard than squished by a runaway boat
trailer.


Chance of either is infinitely small. Unless Scott is towing his trailer
near you.



Calif Bill February 10th 08 06:37 PM

Apology to gay losers
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:39:25 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:13:03 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

No way to trailer that sort of boat, short of a tractor trailer and
(even worse) the oversize permits. I think the narrowest model, 33' or
over, is almost a 12' beam.


One of the captains I occasionally back up has a Hydra-Sports 330 CC
that he trailers to places when fishing is hot here or there and for
tournaments over 75 miles from his home base in Bristol RI.

That boat has a 10.5' beam and with the trailer, it's close to 11'
wide. The interesting thing is that he doesn't need a special permit
to haul the boat - he does need an oversize sign (he tows it with a
Ford F-450 dual) front and rear. All he needs to do is to call the
DOT in RI, pay a small fee (like $25) and he has his permit. He can
also do it online. When he goes to MA or NY, same thing - all done
online, quick and easy.

The Canyon 33 is almost a foot wider than the Hydra-Sports - 11'7"
which isn't too wide for a trailer - it's just under 12' which I think
is the total limit on non-special wide load permits. I could be wrong
though. I know that there are specialty trailer makers (Harry bought
his trailer from one that I know of) that can build a proper trailer
that's not wider than the boat it'self.

The nice thing about the Contender 31 I had was that it was under 10'
- 9'6" - and was a piece of cake to trailer around and I didn't need a
special permit for it when I did trailer it which wasn't often.


I got my trailer from the same folks Harry did and my boat hangs over
about 8 inches on both sides... and technically, should have an
oversize permit. (Apparently, it isn't really a safety issue, it is
all about revenue.) Trailer width on state highways is limited to 96
inches and 102 inches on the Interstates.

Your guy with the 33 footer likely would exceed the 60' overall
length.

This is an area not enforced by the DMV and there are several state
legislators now forming legislation (if not already introduced) that
would attempt to fix some of these outdated dimensions.

Bear in mind this is just NC.... YMMV....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

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Oversized for your size boat is not a revenue generator. Then ar more
likely trying to keep the traffic flowing smoothly. So the permit requires
you to know when and where you can not tow.



Calif Bill February 10th 08 06:43 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Our choice in this next election is how much our taxes are going to
increase and how much of our rights and freedoms we are going to loose.
The lose of rights and freedoms is not an immediate action they will be
lost over time and it will be a 50 year lose.




Hasn't George W already limited your precious freedoms?
Your taxes should be increased to pay for his adventures overseas....why
should your kids & grandkids pay?


Get a clue. Most of the overspending has not gone for overseas adventures.
About 25% of the last funding bill for overseas adventures was pork, sorry
earmarks, for both Dems and Repubs. It has been a spending frenzy by both
parties for the last 16 years. The only thing that make the Clinton years
look half way decent, is the revenue from the dot.bomb bust came in faster
than Congress could ramp up spending. Part of the debt in the last 7 years
is a carry over from Congress overspending in the previous 8 years. And
for a little enlightenment for the Canuck, the President / Executive Branch
can only spend money allocated by Congress.



HK February 10th 08 07:19 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Our choice in this next election is how much our taxes are going to
increase and how much of our rights and freedoms we are going to loose.
The lose of rights and freedoms is not an immediate action they will be
lost over time and it will be a 50 year lose.




Hasn't George W already limited your precious freedoms?
Your taxes should be increased to pay for his adventures overseas....why
should your kids & grandkids pay?




1. Yes.
2. It's Reaganomics...spend like a drunken sailor and then...don't pay
for it.

HK February 10th 08 07:22 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet
behind me. Always gives me the willies.
pansy

Eisboch

Yeah, well, I'd prefer to die after a weekend in the sack with Salma
Hayek, Penelope Cruz and Marion Cotillard than squished by a runaway boat
trailer.


Chance of either is infinitely small. Unless Scott is towing his trailer
near you.



My wife sez if I can arrange a weekend at the NoTell Motel with Salma,
Penelope and Marion, it's ok with her. But I can't get any of them to
return my phone calls. Not even the motel! :-

[email protected] February 10th 08 07:23 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Feb 10, 1:35*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...


The one thing I really don't like about hauling big boats is looking out
the rear view mirror and seeing the "Battleship Missouri" two feet
behind me. *Always gives me the willies.


pansy


Eisboch


Yeah, well, I'd prefer to die after a weekend in the sack with Salma
Hayek, Penelope Cruz and Marion Cotillard than squished by a runaway boat
trailer.


Chance of either is infinitely small. *Unless Scott is towing his trailer
near you.


Hey, how did you know I look like Penelope Cruz??

John H.[_3_] February 10th 08 08:04 PM

Apology to gay losers
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:06:06 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Feb 10, 6:07?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 8:54?pm, John H. wrote:





On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:02 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:34?am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:24:38 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:08?am, wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here


wrote:
HK wrote:
I am truly sorry if I offended any of you fellas.
Love you,
Harry Krause


Next thing you will be doing to calling some a Black Loser, or a
Wet-Back Loser.... you really should be ashamed of yourself.


Only if they think it will help in the elections.. The democrats have
been pulling this "tolerant party" farce for decades, the drift
between Obama and Billary has really opened up the curtains to the
blatant bigotry and pandering that is the rule of the day for the
dems...


Read you own post, Scottie.


I always get a kick out of statements like, "Those rotten, no-good, so
and so's and such and such's are despicable because they are so
hateful and intolerant!"


Thanks for starting my day with a smile.


Both of your parties are guilty of pandering. Yours hopes to achieve
and maintain power by toadying up to the equally rich or richer,
piling so much wealth on their ultraprivileged tables that some will
ultimately spill over the edges into your own pockets.


Bull****. Do you consider it 'bad' to be wealthy? Are the rich inherently
immoral? How do you define 'rich'?


Your opposition
?[liberals]
hopes to achieve and maintain power by promising the poor, the
discouraged and the disenfranchised an ever elusive "brighter day",
thereby garnering millions of hours of volunteer time and tens of
millions of votes.


Absolutely true.


So you are both a batch of thieves. The difference is not in what you
do, but who your masters are.


Luke 6: 41-42


One with your attitude towards religion should not quote the Bible.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I didn't say it was bad to be wealthy, I said your party steals for
the wealthy----- vs the other party that steals for the poor. There's
no difference in what either of you do, only who your masters are.


"...steals for the poor." ?What horse****!


DC has a pot full of poor. It's been run by Democrats from time immemorial.
Wealthy Democrats. Democrats who've convinced the 'poor' that they will
look out for the 'poor'. Have the 'poor' done one iota better in all that
time? The Mayors go to jail, the city council folks go to jail, the school
board folks go to jail, the friggin' teachers' union folks go to jail.


You need to wake up Chuck. The Democrats have done a good job of convincing
the uneducated that the Democrats are looking out for them. It's true. The
Democrats want to keep them poor and uneducated - that way the poor will
continue to believe the **** like you just spouted above.


Hell no, the Democrats don't want the No Child Left Behind Act to succeed.
The poor may *learn* something!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Ding ding ding.... and we have a winner... If no child left behind
works, the dems lose their voter base...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh please. Straight off a Limbaugh script.

Compare the average level of educational achievement on, say, the left
coast with the average education in customarily red states like
Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri. Then reevaluate. Thanks.

Educated and intelligent people arrive at differing conclusions. If
they didn't all of that education would be wasted. The truly educated
don't ultimately migrate to the "One True Fact", but learn to use
their mental resources to think in a critical manner. Some people will
posit: "Those who disagree with me do so because they aren't very
bright." That's a laugh. What isn't very bright in an expectation that
all quality thought will lead to the same, lock step, conclusion.

Some of the educated who feel the urge to support a political party
will support the R's. Others will support the D's. Others will pick
and choose candidates from both parties and make personal, rather than
party dictated, decisions regarding issues.


The uneducated will support the party they think will do the most for them.
The Democrats make their points by telling the uneducated what they'll be
given - higher pay, better jobs, free health care, free college, free this
and free that.

What is your 'comparison' of left vs red states in terms of education
supposed to mean. The 'NCLBA' applied to all states.

Again, you're paying too much attention to Limbaugh. If, in fact, Limbaugh
said that, then Limbaugh got it right (and correct).
--
John H


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