8th grade education
 

On Feb 7, 10:33*am, wrote:
On Feb 7, 10:26*am, wrote:





On Feb 7, 8:36*am, John H. wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H

At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.

Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H

This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll tell you right now, my kids haven't been taught that if someone
higher ranking (someone with authority) wants them to do something
that they aren't comfortable with, or think is wrong, to not do it
just because of that person's authority. My kids have been taught not
to goose-step, that it's perfectly within their rights to say no.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I think all of us teach our kids the same way, then again to choose
their battles too. Problem here is some posters who tell us how we
should raise our kids, even down to specific situations which they
have little knowledge... then tell us stories that tell us they do not
live up to their own expectations. Second problem is those who would
address such drivel....;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, I agree. My daughter (a real brain, straight A's always) is in
middle school, taking advance courses. She is taking a freshman level
algebra course. The teacher seems to act like she's in competition
(you know, popularity-wise) with some of the kids. It's actually kind
of sad. Here, my daughter is a great kid, a real smart gal, social but
not to the point of being cheerleader-ish, etc. and the teacher just
plain does not like her. And I think it's because she's so well
rounded, and perhaps the teacher is not! The teacher marked a time/
distance problem wrong, my daughter knew it was right, she showed me,
it was right, so she asked the teacher to review it. The teacher said
no, I marked it wrong, so it's wrong. That didn't sit well with my
kid, nor me. Off to school we go! We sat with the Asst. principal, and
the teacher. I simply asked the teacher, "Can you please show me where
this answer is wrong". It was shown with all work, as a good algebra
student will do. Her answer was that part of it must have been erased
to make it correct. I told her to never, ever accuse my daughter of
cheating without some proof of such. After she left, the asst.
principal assured me that this wasn't over, but who knows.

8th grade education
 

On Feb 7, 11:19*am, wrote:
On Feb 7, 10:33*am, wrote:





On Feb 7, 10:26*am, wrote:

On Feb 7, 8:36*am, John H. wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H

At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.

Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H

This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll tell you right now, my kids haven't been taught that if someone
higher ranking (someone with authority) wants them to do something
that they aren't comfortable with, or think is wrong, to not do it
just because of that person's authority. My kids have been taught not
to goose-step, that it's perfectly within their rights to say no.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I think all of us teach our kids the same way, then again to choose
their battles too. Problem here is some posters who tell us how we
should raise our kids, even down to specific situations which they
have little knowledge... then tell us stories that tell us they do not
live up to their own expectations. Second problem is those who would
address such drivel....;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, I agree. My daughter (a real brain, straight A's always) is in
middle school, taking advance courses. She is taking a freshman level
algebra course. The teacher seems to act like she's in competition
(you know, popularity-wise) with some of the kids. It's actually kind
of sad. Here, my daughter is a great kid, a real smart gal, social but
not to the point of being cheerleader-ish, etc. and the teacher just
plain does not like her. And I think it's because she's so well
rounded, and perhaps the teacher is not! The teacher marked a time/
distance problem wrong, my daughter knew it was right, she showed me,
it was right, so she asked the teacher to review it. The teacher said
no, I marked it wrong, so it's wrong. That didn't sit well with my
kid, nor me. Off to school we go! We sat with the Asst. principal, and
the teacher. I simply asked the teacher, "Can you please show me where
this answer is wrong". It was shown with all work, as a good algebra
student will do. Her answer was that part of it must have been erased
to make it correct. I told her to never, ever accuse my daughter of
cheating without some proof of such. After she left, the asst.
principal assured me that this wasn't over, but who knows.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My kid has a teacher that has no personal problem with my kid, but is
a huge politcal activist in class so my kid and others just kind of
keep quiet so as not to suffer the ridicule. At the same time, I teach
my kids that school is like your job. You are going to have bosses and
such that will be a problem, you must still give them what they
expect, that's your job. I have always used that analagy to teach my
kids to deal with teachers they have issues with. Read, a teacher not
liking you is no excuse... I am not suggesting that your kids are
using it as one or that you would accept it either, just saying how I
deal with that problem in school, or nightclass, or sports... or life;)

8th grade education
 

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H

8th grade education
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.

8th grade education
 

On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:26:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 7, 8:36*am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H

At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.

Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H

This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll tell you right now, my kids haven't been taught that if someone
higher ranking (someone with authority) wants them to do something
that they aren't comfortable with, or think is wrong, to not do it
just because of that person's authority. My kids have been taught not
to goose-step, that it's perfectly within their rights to say no.

One always has the right to say "no".
--
John H

8th grade education
 

On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:19:29 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 7, 10:33*am, wrote:
On Feb 7, 10:26*am, wrote:





On Feb 7, 8:36*am, John H. wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H

At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.

Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H

This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll tell you right now, my kids haven't been taught that if someone
higher ranking (someone with authority) wants them to do something
that they aren't comfortable with, or think is wrong, to not do it
just because of that person's authority. My kids have been taught not
to goose-step, that it's perfectly within their rights to say no.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I think all of us teach our kids the same way, then again to choose
their battles too. Problem here is some posters who tell us how we
should raise our kids, even down to specific situations which they
have little knowledge... then tell us stories that tell us they do not
live up to their own expectations. Second problem is those who would
address such drivel....;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, I agree. My daughter (a real brain, straight A's always) is in
middle school, taking advance courses. She is taking a freshman level
algebra course. The teacher seems to act like she's in competition
(you know, popularity-wise) with some of the kids. It's actually kind
of sad. Here, my daughter is a great kid, a real smart gal, social but
not to the point of being cheerleader-ish, etc. and the teacher just
plain does not like her. And I think it's because she's so well
rounded, and perhaps the teacher is not! The teacher marked a time/
distance problem wrong, my daughter knew it was right, she showed me,
it was right, so she asked the teacher to review it. The teacher said
no, I marked it wrong, so it's wrong. That didn't sit well with my
kid, nor me. Off to school we go! We sat with the Asst. principal, and
the teacher. I simply asked the teacher, "Can you please show me where
this answer is wrong". It was shown with all work, as a good algebra
student will do. Her answer was that part of it must have been erased
to make it correct. I told her to never, ever accuse my daughter of
cheating without some proof of such. After she left, the asst.
principal assured me that this wasn't over, but who knows.

The teacher needs a lesson in marking papers.

Note that in this county about 50% of eighth graders take Algebra. About
10% take Geometry, and the remaining 40% take 'Math 8'.
--
John H

8th grade education
 

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H

8th grade education
 

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.

8th grade education
 

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H

8th grade education
 

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?