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UglyDan®©™ February 7th 08 01:27 AM

8th grade education
 

(Joesparebedroom) wrote
Keep it up, Vic Tanny.


Au Contraire, Oh Big little man with arms the size of twigs, I seem to
remember you posting that you bench press 450 lbs, and run 6 miles a day
with 50 lbs of rocks or whatever in your backpack. No?
I wish I lived near you, I would bring my dog over just to let him take
a dump on that postage stamp sized lot of yours (I swear he craps on
command!) while you hid inside your house wishing you we're man enough
to come out and do something about it.
I guess we both have fantasies, too bad mine are closer to reality than
yours. 450lbs indeed!
Keep it up Dom Deluoise.

UD





JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 01:47 AM

8th grade education
 
""UglyDan®©T"" wrote in message
...

(Joesparebedroom) wrote
Keep it up, Vic Tanny.


Au Contraire, Oh Big little man with arms the size of twigs, I seem to
remember you posting that you bench press 450 lbs, and run 6 miles a day
with 50 lbs of rocks or whatever in your backpack. No?
I wish I lived near you, I would bring my dog over just to let him take
a dump on that postage stamp sized lot of yours (I swear he craps on
command!) while you hid inside your house wishing you we're man enough
to come out and do something about it.
I guess we both have fantasies, too bad mine are closer to reality than
yours. 450lbs indeed!
Keep it up Dom Deluoise.

UD



You never saw me make any of the claims you mentioned above. If you
disagree, go find them. Good luck.



Tim February 7th 08 02:37 AM

8th grade education
 
On Feb 5, 5:58*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I'd really put some money down on whether 90% of graduating high
school students could tell you what bicameral means - with the highest
percentage of them thinking it's some kind of clam.

No, they'd be wrong.
Everybody know's it's a picture taken via a camera with two lenses...

Wayne.B February 7th 08 11:20 AM

8th grade education
 
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:10:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Obedient was left out because I couldn't remember it for some reason
that I can't explain at the moment. :)


Mrs Wave may have some insight into that...

:-)


John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 01:30 PM

8th grade education
 
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:55:57 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:39:37 -0800, Calif Bill penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Email from my 84 year old aunt.


Yeah, right......

So... an easy multiple choice question...

Is today(posting date):

A) Wednesday
B) February 6th
C) the 37th day of the year
D) Bob Marley Day

choose the most correct answer. First graders in Miss Mary's class
will have no problem with the right answer, will you?

PS

If you are smart enough to get this, you will also understand what is
so wrong with "No Child Left Behind."


And what is that?
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 01:32 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:24:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Feb 6, 7:49 pm, John H. wrote:



Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


This IS the same guy that told me just last week I was a bad parent
because my kid would not "talk back" to a teacher. Pfffffttt. why do
you bother with this guy...? He is just making most of it up anyway..

=============================


You are a simple man, remember? So simple that you can't understand how a
kid earns privileges as the years pass.

Now, go make like a puppy and lick your genitals. Your master will come
along soon to rescue you from your latest morass.


So Krausish. I suppose it's what you do best.
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 01:36 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message



And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H



This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H

JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 02:23 PM

8th grade education
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message



And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H



This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H



He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.



[email protected] February 7th 08 03:26 PM

8th grade education
 
On Feb 7, 8:36*am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.


Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.


I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.


Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory..


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'll tell you right now, my kids haven't been taught that if someone
higher ranking (someone with authority) wants them to do something
that they aren't comfortable with, or think is wrong, to not do it
just because of that person's authority. My kids have been taught not
to goose-step, that it's perfectly within their rights to say no.

[email protected] February 7th 08 03:33 PM

8th grade education
 
On Feb 7, 10:26*am, wrote:
On Feb 7, 8:36*am, John H. wrote:





On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"


wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.


Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.


I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.


Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'll tell you right now, my kids haven't been taught that if someone
higher ranking (someone with authority) wants them to do something
that they aren't comfortable with, or think is wrong, to not do it
just because of that person's authority. My kids have been taught not
to goose-step, that it's perfectly within their rights to say no.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think all of us teach our kids the same way, then again to choose
their battles too. Problem here is some posters who tell us how we
should raise our kids, even down to specific situations which they
have little knowledge... then tell us stories that tell us they do not
live up to their own expectations. Second problem is those who would
address such drivel....;)

[email protected] February 7th 08 04:19 PM

8th grade education
 
On Feb 7, 10:33*am, wrote:
On Feb 7, 10:26*am, wrote:





On Feb 7, 8:36*am, John H. wrote:


On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"


wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.


Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.


I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.


Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'll tell you right now, my kids haven't been taught that if someone
higher ranking (someone with authority) wants them to do something
that they aren't comfortable with, or think is wrong, to not do it
just because of that person's authority. My kids have been taught not
to goose-step, that it's perfectly within their rights to say no.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think all of us teach our kids the same way, then again to choose
their battles too. Problem here is some posters who tell us how we
should raise our kids, even down to specific situations which they
have little knowledge... then tell us stories that tell us they do not
live up to their own expectations. Second problem is those who would
address such drivel....;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yup, I agree. My daughter (a real brain, straight A's always) is in
middle school, taking advance courses. She is taking a freshman level
algebra course. The teacher seems to act like she's in competition
(you know, popularity-wise) with some of the kids. It's actually kind
of sad. Here, my daughter is a great kid, a real smart gal, social but
not to the point of being cheerleader-ish, etc. and the teacher just
plain does not like her. And I think it's because she's so well
rounded, and perhaps the teacher is not! The teacher marked a time/
distance problem wrong, my daughter knew it was right, she showed me,
it was right, so she asked the teacher to review it. The teacher said
no, I marked it wrong, so it's wrong. That didn't sit well with my
kid, nor me. Off to school we go! We sat with the Asst. principal, and
the teacher. I simply asked the teacher, "Can you please show me where
this answer is wrong". It was shown with all work, as a good algebra
student will do. Her answer was that part of it must have been erased
to make it correct. I told her to never, ever accuse my daughter of
cheating without some proof of such. After she left, the asst.
principal assured me that this wasn't over, but who knows.

[email protected] February 7th 08 04:36 PM

8th grade education
 
On Feb 7, 11:19*am, wrote:
On Feb 7, 10:33*am, wrote:





On Feb 7, 10:26*am, wrote:


On Feb 7, 8:36*am, John H. wrote:


On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"


wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.


Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.


I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.


Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'll tell you right now, my kids haven't been taught that if someone
higher ranking (someone with authority) wants them to do something
that they aren't comfortable with, or think is wrong, to not do it
just because of that person's authority. My kids have been taught not
to goose-step, that it's perfectly within their rights to say no.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think all of us teach our kids the same way, then again to choose
their battles too. Problem here is some posters who tell us how we
should raise our kids, even down to specific situations which they
have little knowledge... then tell us stories that tell us they do not
live up to their own expectations. Second problem is those who would
address such drivel....;)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yup, I agree. My daughter (a real brain, straight A's always) is in
middle school, taking advance courses. She is taking a freshman level
algebra course. The teacher seems to act like she's in competition
(you know, popularity-wise) with some of the kids. It's actually kind
of sad. Here, my daughter is a great kid, a real smart gal, social but
not to the point of being cheerleader-ish, etc. and the teacher just
plain does not like her. And I think it's because she's so well
rounded, and perhaps the teacher is not! The teacher marked a time/
distance problem wrong, my daughter knew it was right, she showed me,
it was right, so she asked the teacher to review it. The teacher said
no, I marked it wrong, so it's wrong. That didn't sit well with my
kid, nor me. Off to school we go! We sat with the Asst. principal, and
the teacher. I simply asked the teacher, "Can you please show me where
this answer is wrong". It was shown with all work, as a good algebra
student will do. Her answer was that part of it must have been erased
to make it correct. I told her to never, ever accuse my daughter of
cheating without some proof of such. After she left, the asst.
principal assured me that this wasn't over, but who knows.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


My kid has a teacher that has no personal problem with my kid, but is
a huge politcal activist in class so my kid and others just kind of
keep quiet so as not to suffer the ridicule. At the same time, I teach
my kids that school is like your job. You are going to have bosses and
such that will be a problem, you must still give them what they
expect, that's your job. I have always used that analagy to teach my
kids to deal with teachers they have issues with. Read, a teacher not
liking you is no excuse... I am not suggesting that your kids are
using it as one or that you would accept it either, just saying how I
deal with that problem in school, or nightclass, or sports... or life;)

John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 04:38 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message



And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H



He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H

JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 04:38 PM

8th grade education
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H



He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H



Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.



John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 04:39 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:26:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 7, 8:36*am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.


Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.


I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.


Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'll tell you right now, my kids haven't been taught that if someone
higher ranking (someone with authority) wants them to do something
that they aren't comfortable with, or think is wrong, to not do it
just because of that person's authority. My kids have been taught not
to goose-step, that it's perfectly within their rights to say no.


One always has the right to say "no".
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 04:49 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:19:29 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 7, 10:33*am, wrote:
On Feb 7, 10:26*am, wrote:





On Feb 7, 8:36*am, John H. wrote:


On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"


wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.


Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.


I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.


Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can find out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'll tell you right now, my kids haven't been taught that if someone
higher ranking (someone with authority) wants them to do something
that they aren't comfortable with, or think is wrong, to not do it
just because of that person's authority. My kids have been taught not
to goose-step, that it's perfectly within their rights to say no.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think all of us teach our kids the same way, then again to choose
their battles too. Problem here is some posters who tell us how we
should raise our kids, even down to specific situations which they
have little knowledge... then tell us stories that tell us they do not
live up to their own expectations. Second problem is those who would
address such drivel....;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yup, I agree. My daughter (a real brain, straight A's always) is in
middle school, taking advance courses. She is taking a freshman level
algebra course. The teacher seems to act like she's in competition
(you know, popularity-wise) with some of the kids. It's actually kind
of sad. Here, my daughter is a great kid, a real smart gal, social but
not to the point of being cheerleader-ish, etc. and the teacher just
plain does not like her. And I think it's because she's so well
rounded, and perhaps the teacher is not! The teacher marked a time/
distance problem wrong, my daughter knew it was right, she showed me,
it was right, so she asked the teacher to review it. The teacher said
no, I marked it wrong, so it's wrong. That didn't sit well with my
kid, nor me. Off to school we go! We sat with the Asst. principal, and
the teacher. I simply asked the teacher, "Can you please show me where
this answer is wrong". It was shown with all work, as a good algebra
student will do. Her answer was that part of it must have been erased
to make it correct. I told her to never, ever accuse my daughter of
cheating without some proof of such. After she left, the asst.
principal assured me that this wasn't over, but who knows.


The teacher needs a lesson in marking papers.

Note that in this county about 50% of eighth graders take Algebra. About
10% take Geometry, and the remaining 40% take 'Math 8'.
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 05:14 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H



Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H

JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 05:15 PM

8th grade education
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H



Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H



Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.



John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 05:40 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H



Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H

JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 05:41 PM

8th grade education
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:m62mq39dip9koojsbf0qi9jlc09htgqjtt@4ax. com...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H



Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H



Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?



John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 05:52 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:m62mq39dip9koojsbf0qi9jlc09htgqjtt@4ax .com...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H



Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.
--
John H

[email protected] February 7th 08 05:53 PM

8th grade education
 
On Feb 7, 12:52*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.


Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.


I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.


Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Fantastic set! I've watched it all on PBS at least twice, then certain
episodes more.

JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 05:57 PM

8th grade education
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get
involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he
must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he
has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need
to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you
"win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your
odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H



Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal.
TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.
--
John H



The brain uses more of its cognitive abilities while sleeping than when
watching TV. Go read a book.



Don White February 7th 08 06:24 PM

8th grade education
 

"John H." wrote in message
...

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H



You going on about someone elses family again??
Who knows if the kid will want to be a marine or not...that's his choice.
He could always serve his country by being an army officer...hiding far from
the action while directing others to do all the dangerous dirty work.



[email protected] February 7th 08 06:39 PM

8th grade education
 
On Feb 7, 1:06*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:52:05 -0500, John H.





wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.


Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.


I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.


Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines..
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.


Sorry.


You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.


Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


First of all, that's pure bull****. Second of all, what does someone's
poliitcal persuasion have to do with their ability to accurately
portray events as they happened in a riveting manner?

JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 06:43 PM

8th grade education
 
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:52:05 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:m62mq39dip9koojsbf0qi9jlc09htgqjtt@4 ax.com...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get
involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he
must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your
bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he
has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need
to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you
"win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your
odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off
your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal.
TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.


Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.




Yeah. His jazz documentary was a travesty of political bull****.

Sheesh.....



HK February 7th 08 06:53 PM

8th grade education
 
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:39:37 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 7, 1:06 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:52:05 -0500, John H.





wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.
Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.
I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.
Good for you.
--
John H
At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.
Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H
This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.
This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H
He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.
As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H
Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.
Krausish.
--
John H
Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.
Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H
Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?
Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.
Sorry.
You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.
Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

First of all, that's pure bull****.


No it is not. I know him personally and have for a very long time. I
don't think he makes a practice of spouting his beliefs every time
there is a camera in front of him like many other celebrities, but
he's pretty far to the left. I was surprised when he publically
endorsed Obama - both because he usually keeps these thngs to himself,
and because Obama is pretty conservative compared to Where Ken's
thoughts reside.


Second of all, what does someone's
poliitcal persuasion have to do with their ability to accurately
portray events as they happened in a riveting manner?


Oh, you don't know what the word "documentary" means? I'll give you a
hint: It's pretty hard to find one that DOESN'T have a point of view
behind it.

Historical accounts in any form are pretty subjective. There was a
teacher in our local High School who got in a bit of trouble for
teaching 10th graders the history of the American Revolution from the
standpoint of the British.




You mean, when our ancestors here were insurgents?

JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 06:58 PM

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...

Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.- Hide quoted
text -

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First of all, that's pure bull****.


No it is not. I know him personally and have for a very long time. I
don't think he makes a practice of spouting his beliefs every time
there is a camera in front of him like many other celebrities, but
he's pretty far to the left. I was surprised when he publically
endorsed Obama - both because he usually keeps these thngs to himself,
and because Obama is pretty conservative compared to Where Ken's
thoughts reside.



It is often said that most artistic types are liberals, and that's probably
a good thing. Otherwise, all our museums would either be closed down, or
filled with nothing but football memorabilia and military collectibles.



JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 07:11 PM

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wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:43:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get
involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he
must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you
can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your
bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did
he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he
has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the
Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd
need
to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you
"win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your
odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off
your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with
responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to
oatmeal.
TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.

Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.




Yeah. His jazz documentary was a travesty of political bull****.

Sheesh.....


Are you really this simple minded?

I didn't say that all documentries have a political focus, did I? You
can be sure the Jazz documentary expressed a definite viewpoint on the
subject, and probably parts of it DID convey a political viewpoint, as
segregation was a political issue in addition to a moral one.




I'm reminded at the moment of someone in another newsgroup who said he
doesn't read books. He gave several reasons for this, the goofiest of which
was that "All authors are biased." So, he's gone all his life without
reading books.

I'm not saying you're like that (books), just addressing the unavoidable
issue of a biased viewpoint.



JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 07:15 PM

8th grade education
 
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:58:17 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..

Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

First of all, that's pure bull****.

No it is not. I know him personally and have for a very long time. I
don't think he makes a practice of spouting his beliefs every time
there is a camera in front of him like many other celebrities, but
he's pretty far to the left. I was surprised when he publically
endorsed Obama - both because he usually keeps these thngs to himself,
and because Obama is pretty conservative compared to Where Ken's
thoughts reside.



It is often said that most artistic types are liberals, and that's
probably
a good thing. Otherwise, all our museums would either be closed down, or
filled with nothing but football memorabilia and military collectibles.


It is often said that generalizations are usually faulty in some
regard.



Generally, yes. :-)



[email protected] February 7th 08 08:23 PM

8th grade education
 
On Feb 7, 1:48*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:39:37 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 7, 1:06*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:52:05 -0500, John H.


wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.


Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.


I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.


Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well..


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series..
They're due back in 7 days.


Sorry.


You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.


Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


First of all, that's pure bull****.


No it is not. I know him personally and have for a very long time.


Oh, ****, another lobster boater, just what we need.
I
don't think he makes a practice of spouting his beliefs every time
there is a camera in front of him like many other celebrities, but
he's pretty far to the left. I was surprised when he publically
endorsed Obama - both because he usually keeps these thngs to himself,
and because Obama is pretty conservative compared to Where Ken's
thoughts reside.


Bull**** again.

Second of all, what does someone's
poliitcal persuasion have to do with their ability to accurately
portray events as they happened in a riveting manner?


Oh, you don't know what the word "documentary" means? I'll give you a
hint: It's pretty hard to find one that DOESN'T have a point of view
behind it.


I know perfectly well what "documentary" means. Perhaps you don't. In
television or film or other media, it is the re-creation of an ACTUAL
EVENT. Ie: the truth.

Historical accounts in any form are pretty subjective. There was a
teacher in our local High School who got in a bit of trouble for
teaching 10th graders the history of the American Revolution from the
standpoint of the British.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



JoeSpareBedroom February 7th 08 08:29 PM

8th grade education
 
wrote in message
...

I know perfectly well what "documentary" means. Perhaps you don't. In
television or film or other media, it is the re-creation of an ACTUAL
EVENT. Ie: the truth.

======================


What if the person telling the story didn't actually witness the original
event? Wouldn't that make it impossible to create a documentary, based on
your strict definition?



John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 11:20 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:06:23 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:52:05 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:uucmq3tgcqc6i0mee7likc5km4be0rhodc@4ax .com...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:m62mq39dip9koojsbf0qi9jlc09htgqjtt@4 ax.com...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.


Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.


Well, if the "Civil War" makes a liberal of me, so be it.
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 11:25 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:24:07 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H



You going on about someone elses family again??
Who knows if the kid will want to be a marine or not...that's his choice.
He could always serve his country by being an army officer...hiding far from
the action while directing others to do all the dangerous dirty work.


Butt out, Don. You've no idea of what was said. You and JimH should spend
less time playing with each other.
--
John H

HK February 7th 08 11:34 PM

8th grade education
 
wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:20:45 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:06:23 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:52:05 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H

At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.

Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H

This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H

He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.

As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H

Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.

Krausish.
--
John H

Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.

Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H

Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?

Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.
Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.

Well, if the "Civil War" makes a liberal of me, so be it.


Just wanted you to be aware that it might not be quite the same story you heard
in school, or any other accounts you may have read, heard or seen.




Gosharoonie, I've read at least two dozen major tomes on the Civil War,
and all of them differed from each other in small or significant ways in
describing many of the same events. Burns' "Civil War" was much more a
relating of the personal and anecdotal than a comprehensive retelling of
the orders of battle and the politics. That's what made it so compelling
to so many people.

I see Herring is still insulting me, poor, old, worn-out p.o.s. that he is.




Don White February 7th 08 11:34 PM

8th grade education
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:24:07 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. *My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines*.
--
John H



You going on about someone elses family again??
Who knows if the kid will want to be a marine or not...that's his choice.
He could always serve his country by being an army officer...hiding far
from
the action while directing others to do all the dangerous dirty work.


Butt out, Don. You've no idea of what was said. You and JimH should spend
less time playing with each other.
--
John H


That's the beauty of the written word Johnny..... it's right there in black
& white..........
*My question remains, did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Will you
be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines*.

Leave the mans' family alone!



John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 11:53 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:31:06 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:20:45 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:06:23 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:52:05 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:m62mq39dip9koojsbf0qi9jlc09htgqjtt @4ax.com...
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.

Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.


Well, if the "Civil War" makes a liberal of me, so be it.


Just wanted you to be aware that it might not be quite the same story you heard
in school, or any other accounts you may have read, heard or seen.


I've no problem with seeing more than one side of an event.

Read a few books about the French Revolution. It's a wonder the same event
can be seen so differently by historians.
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 11:54 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:34:57 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:24:07 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. *My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines*.
--
John H


You going on about someone elses family again??
Who knows if the kid will want to be a marine or not...that's his choice.
He could always serve his country by being an army officer...hiding far
from
the action while directing others to do all the dangerous dirty work.


Butt out, Don. You've no idea of what was said. You and JimH should spend
less time playing with each other.
--
John H


That's the beauty of the written word Johnny..... it's right there in black
& white..........
*My question remains, did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Will you
be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines*.

Leave the mans' family alone!


Shut up.
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 7th 08 11:54 PM

8th grade education
 
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:45:08 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
.. .

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:24:07 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. *My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines*.
--
John H


You going on about someone elses family again??
Who knows if the kid will want to be a marine or not...that's his choice.
He could always serve his country by being an army officer...hiding far
from
the action while directing others to do all the dangerous dirty work.


Butt out, Don. You've no idea of what was said. You and JimH should spend
less time playing with each other.
--
John H


That's the beauty of the written word Johnny..... it's right there in
black & white..........
*My question remains, did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Will you
be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines*.

Leave the mans' family alone!



Wow, why did the old man bring me into this discussion? Is he still
obsessed with me?


Good, now you both go find a quiet little room and play with each other for
a while.
--
John H

Eisboch February 7th 08 11:57 PM

8th grade education
 

I just want to make it clear.
I have an 8th grade education.

Eisboch




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