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I don't know. I do know that the Patriots are documented as being
cheaters.


For what? Video taping the other teams coaching staff? So do all the
national broadcast networks that televise the games.

Furthermore, the "documented" instance happened and ended at the very
beginning of a early game this season... like in the first few minutes.
The guy with the camera was escorted from the field. Had absolutely no
affect on the outcome of the game. If you happen to notice, none of the
league coaches, players or team owners are complaining or even talking
about it. It would be a forgotten, minor event if it weren't for a
certain Senator who happens to be a big time Philadelphia Eagles fan.
Who, other than he, are even talking about a Patriot/Eagles game from
2005?


For what?

The NFL thought it to be serious enough to fine your coach 1/2 million
and the team 1/4 million and for the team to lose their 1st round draft
pick this year.

Did you see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c

Put an asterisk next to all the Patriots wins showing them as cheaters.


Dammit. I thought I copied the right link
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3227592



I was kinda wondering what shotguns had to do with the NFL.

Eisboch

On Feb 3, 8:21*pm, "JimH" wrote:
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I don't know. * I do know that the Patriots are documented as being
cheaters.

For what? *Video taping the other teams coaching staff? * So do all the
national broadcast networks that televise the games.

Furthermore, the "documented" instance happened and ended at the very
beginning of a early game this season... like in the first few minutes.
The guy with the camera was escorted from the field. * Had absolutely no
affect on the outcome of the game. *If you happen to notice, none of the
league coaches, players or team owners are complaining or even talking
about it. It would be a forgotten, minor event if it weren't for a
certain Senator who happens to be a big time Philadelphia Eagles fan.
Who, other than he, are even talking about a Patriot/Eagles game from
2005?

For what?

The NFL thought it to be serious enough to fine your coach 1/2 million and
the team 1/4 million and for the team to lose their 1st round draft pick
this year.

Did you see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c

Put an asterisk next to all the Patriots wins showing them as cheaters.

Dammit. I thought I copied the right linkhttp://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3227592- Hide quoted text -

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Oh, rub some dirt in it

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:09:48 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


Cheating in sports is very subjective. Like Ernie Ervan said to a friend
of mine, "if you ain't cheatin' you ain;t trying to win". Sad, but
true...

True, shading the edges is part of the game, but somewhere if the
integrity of the game is brought into question? I don't think this
"spygate" reached that level, but it sure does taint Belichick, and,
unfortunately, the Patriots, a damn good team undeserving of this.

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:09:48 -0800, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


Cheating in sports is very subjective. Like Ernie Ervan said to a friend
of mine, "if you ain't cheatin' you ain;t trying to win". Sad, but
true...
True, shading the edges is part of the game, but somewhere if the
integrity of the game is brought into question? I don't think this
"spygate" reached that level, but it sure does taint Belichick, and,
unfortunately, the Patriots, a damn good team undeserving of this.

Rules are rules. They got caught stealing signals. Their is no grey area
with cheating.........you are either guilty of it or not. Their record
needs to reflect that.




Are football players screened regularly for use of "drugs"?

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:36:27 -0500, JimH wrote:


Rules are rules. They got caught stealing signals. Their is no grey
area with cheating.........you are either guilty of it or not. Their
record needs to reflect that.

Hey, I think they should have been made to forfeit the Jets game. That
would have silenced all the "perfect season" New Englanders, but then I'm
a Jet's fan.

I can't believe you are so simple as to believe there is no grey area.
Ever notice how *all* the coaches hide their mouths with the play card
when speaking into the mike on the sidelines? Why do you think they do
that? Shading the edges has always been part of sport. What makes this
disturbing is that it is at the organization level. Punish it, and move
on.

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:42:13 -0500, JimH wrote:


Rules are rules. They got caught stealing signals. Their is no grey
area with cheating.........you are either guilty of it or not. Their
record needs to reflect that.


Oops................*There* record needs to reflect that.......

Doh!

You were right the first time. ;-)

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:36:27 -0500, JimH wrote:


Rules are rules. They got caught stealing signals. Their is no grey
area with cheating.........you are either guilty of it or not. Their
record needs to reflect that.
Hey, I think they should have been made to forfeit the Jets game. That
would have silenced all the "perfect season" New Englanders, but then I'm
a Jet's fan.

I can't believe you are so simple as to believe there is no grey area.
Ever notice how *all* the coaches hide their mouths with the play card
when speaking into the mike on the sidelines? Why do you think they do
that? Shading the edges has always been part of sport. What makes this
disturbing is that it is at the organization level. Punish it, and move
on.

Whatever. No need for insults. Rules are rules. If you break them don't
complain about the results.

Have you ever heard about taking responsibility for your actions?



So who won the Stupor Bowl? NY, I hope. I like Boston, but I LUV NY.

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:02:11 -0500, HK wrote:


So who won the Stupor Bowl? NY, I hope. I like Boston, but I LUV NY.

The Redskins. ;-)

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:36:27 -0500, JimH wrote:


Rules are rules. They got caught stealing signals. Their is no grey
area with cheating.........you are either guilty of it or not. Their
record needs to reflect that.
Hey, I think they should have been made to forfeit the Jets game. That
would have silenced all the "perfect season" New Englanders, but then
I'm
a Jet's fan.

I can't believe you are so simple as to believe there is no grey area.
Ever notice how *all* the coaches hide their mouths with the play card
when speaking into the mike on the sidelines? Why do you think they do
that? Shading the edges has always been part of sport. What makes this
disturbing is that it is at the organization level. Punish it, and move
on.
Whatever. No need for insults. Rules are rules. If you break them
don't complain about the results.

Have you ever heard about taking responsibility for your actions?
So who won the Stupor Bowl? NY, I hope. I like Boston, but I LUV NY.


You don't care, so why ask?




Never mind, just saw it on the news wire.

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:02:11 -0500, HK wrote:


So who won the Stupor Bowl? NY, I hope. I like Boston, but I LUV NY.

The Redskins. ;-)

That would be the Prince Georges County Redskins. :} They sure play
at a cheesy stadium.