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Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 1st 08 05:19 PM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with
the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought
that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T

JoeSpareBedroom February 1st 08 05:49 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with the
recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought that
might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T



The plasma TV can be used to save lives when there aren't enough blood
donors. This is so obvious.



HK February 1st 08 05:52 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with the
recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought that
might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T



The plasma TV can be used to save lives when there aren't enough blood
donors. This is so obvious.




This newsgroup is plagued with couch potato(e)s.

Jim February 1st 08 05:59 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with
the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought
that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T



The plasma TV can be used to save lives when there aren't enough blood
donors. This is so obvious.



This newsgroup is plagued with couch potato(e)s.

And tomato(e) heads.


[email protected] February 1st 08 06:02 PM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Feb 1, 12:19*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with
the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought
that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...46xbr4/4505-64...

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T


DLP has a lot to offer as well...

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 1st 08 06:10 PM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
wrote:
On Feb 1, 12:19 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with
the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought
that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...46xbr4/4505-64...

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T


DLP has a lot to offer as well...


I think DLP is no longer an option.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 1st 08 06:12 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with
the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought
that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T

The plasma TV can be used to save lives when there aren't enough blood
donors. This is so obvious.


This newsgroup is plagued with couch potato(e)s.


Hey! I resemble that remark (watching Football and Baseball that is).

BTW: I see Reggie continues to butt in on my decision to go LCD. What an
ass.


I really don't care about your decision, the question is about Plasma vs
LCD.

BTW2: LCD is the better choice in rooms with a lot of light. The Sony
that Wayne purchased (and I will be purchasing) was rated #1 and equal to
the many Plasmas in terms of picture quality.



HK February 1st 08 06:18 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with
the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought
that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T

The plasma TV can be used to save lives when there aren't enough blood
donors. This is so obvious.


This newsgroup is plagued with couch potato(e)s.


Hey! I resemble that remark (watching Football and Baseball that is).

BTW: I see Reggie continues to butt in on my decision to go LCD. What an
ass.

BTW2: LCD is the better choice in rooms with a lot of light. The Sony
that Wayne purchased (and I will be purchasing) was rated #1 and equal to
the many Plasmas in terms of picture quality.




What's it cost you to see the Indians play in person?

I took my inlaws to see an Orioles game last summer and between tickets,
food, drink and parking, I think I dropped about $600. Is that possible?

My father and I used to drive from New Haven to New York to see the
Dodgers or Yankees play. I think the tickets were maybe $5 each, a hot
dog and a soda went for a buck.


HK February 1st 08 06:36 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
message ...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets,
with the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I
thought that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T
The plasma TV can be used to save lives when there aren't enough blood
donors. This is so obvious.
This newsgroup is plagued with couch potato(e)s.
Hey! I resemble that remark (watching Football and Baseball that is).

BTW: I see Reggie continues to butt in on my decision to go LCD. What
an ass.

BTW2: LCD is the better choice in rooms with a lot of light. The Sony
that Wayne purchased (and I will be purchasing) was rated #1 and equal to
the many Plasmas in terms of picture quality.


What's it cost you to see the Indians play in person?

I took my inlaws to see an Orioles game last summer and between tickets,
food, drink and parking, I think I dropped about $600. Is that possible?

My father and I used to drive from New Haven to New York to see the
Dodgers or Yankees play. I think the tickets were maybe $5 each, a hot dog
and a soda went for a buck.


When we go we get field box seats, no more than 10 rows back, usually behind
the Indians dugout. We buy them from a season ticket holder and pay
anywhere from $40 to $60/ticket, depending on who is playing the Tribe.

The good seats are sold out to season ticket holders. I liked sitting in
the bleachers when I was younger.




Yeah, I did, too. I think I paid $80 a ticket last summer, and the seats
weren't that good.

[email protected] February 1st 08 06:41 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Feb 1, 12:52*pm, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with the
recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought that
might have some benefits over Plasma.


After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...46xbr4/4505-64...


I really don't see any.


Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?


T


The plasma TV can be used to save lives when there aren't enough blood
donors. This is so obvious.


This newsgroup is plagued with couch potato(e)s.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Get off your fat ass then.

BAR February 1st 08 07:38 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with
the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought
that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T

The plasma TV can be used to save lives when there aren't enough blood
donors. This is so obvious.


This newsgroup is plagued with couch potato(e)s.


Hey! I resemble that remark (watching Football and Baseball that is).

BTW: I see Reggie continues to butt in on my decision to go LCD. What an
ass.


You enjoy the attention!

BTW2: LCD is the better choice in rooms with a lot of light. The Sony
that Wayne purchased (and I will be purchasing) was rated #1 and equal to
the many Plasmas in terms of picture quality.


Agreed. But, I saved money buying the Samsung, about $400.

Short Wave Sportfishing February 1st 08 08:24 PM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:19:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?


Originally, I went plasma because of viewing angle problems in the
living room. - Panasonic 42".

And I don't care what kind of LCD TV it is, I can tell the difference
sitting off angle, even minor, with an LCD that I can't see on a
plasma.

Now I have an LCD in my office - Toshiba 27" because I don't sit at an
angle to the TV. Comparatively, in terms of picture color, blah,
blah, blah it's about the same in terms of performance.

So that's why I went with plasma in the living room and LCD in my
office.

Eisboch February 1st 08 08:26 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with the
recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought that
might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?



We just bought (another) HD TV. This one is a 46" Samsung LCD. As I've
mentioned before, we also have two 42" plasmas and a 50" plasma. All are
also Samsungs. These are in addition to several smaller LCD sets from
various manufacturers.

I just finished hooking up and calibrating the new 46" LCD. It's connected
to cable HD, a regular DVD player and a Blu-Ray player. My impressions are
that it looks very, very good, especially after a few adjustments, but the
plasmas still have a richer, deeper color presentation, including the 50".
If all you watched was the LCD, it would be very satisfying and there would
be no need to expect more. It's only nerds like me that has to go compare
them, but the difference is obvious. The plasmas still are a bit better.
This analogy is not exactly representative, but the LCD display is like a
rich water color painting whereas the plasma is oil.

Eisboch



HK February 1st 08 08:35 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with the
recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought that
might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?



We just bought (another) HD TV. This one is a 46" Samsung LCD. As I've
mentioned before, we also have two 42" plasmas and a 50" plasma. All are
also Samsungs. These are in addition to several smaller LCD sets from
various manufacturers.

I just finished hooking up and calibrating the new 46" LCD. It's connected
to cable HD, a regular DVD player and a Blu-Ray player. My impressions are
that it looks very, very good, especially after a few adjustments, but the
plasmas still have a richer, deeper color presentation, including the 50".
If all you watched was the LCD, it would be very satisfying and there would
be no need to expect more. It's only nerds like me that has to go compare
them, but the difference is obvious. The plasmas still are a bit better.
This analogy is not exactly representative, but the LCD display is like a
rich water color painting whereas the plasma is oil.

Eisboch


Obviously, you need a motorized large screen TV that can follow you
around the house!

:)


Eisboch February 1st 08 08:43 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"HK" wrote in message
...


Obviously, you need a motorized large screen TV that can follow you around
the house!

:)



I just do as I am told. The "bar" room has become the girl's night out
hanging spot. I had to get the jukebox working, install the new TV,
interface everything through the room's sound system, hook up a Karaoke
system, install a sound (music) actuated, multi-colored LED "light show"
system and fix the refrigerator's thermostat.

Can't wait until spring when the boat gets launched. BTW .... the
Navigator will soon be a joy of the past.
Closing is next week. I have to go down to the marina with a bunch of boxes
and clean out all my "stuff".

Eisboch




Jim February 1st 08 08:56 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...


Obviously, you need a motorized large screen TV that can follow you
around the house!

:)



I just do as I am told. The "bar" room has become the girl's night out
hanging spot. I had to get the jukebox working, install the new TV,
interface everything through the room's sound system, hook up a Karaoke
system, install a sound (music) actuated, multi-colored LED "light show"
system and fix the refrigerator's thermostat.

Can't wait until spring when the boat gets launched. BTW .... the
Navigator will soon be a joy of the past.
Closing is next week. I have to go down to the marina with a bunch of
boxes and clean out all my "stuff".

Eisboch



Don't be modest now. Tell him about the motorized large screen TV that hides
in the ceiling till you want to use it. Would be tough to move it around the
house though.


BAR February 1st 08 08:59 PM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:19:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?


Originally, I went plasma because of viewing angle problems in the
living room. - Panasonic 42".

And I don't care what kind of LCD TV it is, I can tell the difference
sitting off angle, even minor, with an LCD that I can't see on a
plasma.

Now I have an LCD in my office - Toshiba 27" because I don't sit at an
angle to the TV. Comparatively, in terms of picture color, blah,
blah, blah it's about the same in terms of performance.

So that's why I went with plasma in the living room and LCD in my
office.


Have you ever thought about moving your throne within the living room?
Or are you just the Galactic Overlord when your wife permits?

HK February 1st 08 09:09 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Obviously, you need a motorized large screen TV that can follow you around
the house!

:)



I just do as I am told. The "bar" room has become the girl's night out
hanging spot. I had to get the jukebox working, install the new TV,
interface everything through the room's sound system, hook up a Karaoke
system, install a sound (music) actuated, multi-colored LED "light show"
system and fix the refrigerator's thermostat.

Can't wait until spring when the boat gets launched. BTW .... the
Navigator will soon be a joy of the past.
Closing is next week. I have to go down to the marina with a bunch of boxes
and clean out all my "stuff".

Eisboch





Congrats...now, onto the next boat!

Don White February 1st 08 09:13 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

I just do as I am told. The "bar" room has become the girl's night out
hanging spot. I had to get the jukebox working, install the new TV,
interface everything through the room's sound system, hook up a Karaoke
system, install a sound (music) actuated, multi-colored LED "light show"
system and fix the refrigerator's thermostat.

snip..
Eisboch



We could hold our regular 'rec.boats' meetings at your place same night as
the ladies. One encouter with the motley crew here and those fine ladies
will be looking for a new spot ASAP.



HK February 1st 08 09:16 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I just do as I am told. The "bar" room has become the girl's night out
hanging spot. I had to get the jukebox working, install the new TV,
interface everything through the room's sound system, hook up a Karaoke
system, install a sound (music) actuated, multi-colored LED "light show"
system and fix the refrigerator's thermostat.

snip..
Eisboch



We could hold our regular 'rec.boats' meetings at your place same night as
the ladies. One encouter with the motley crew here and those fine ladies
will be looking for a new spot ASAP.




There are a couple guys here who I suspect bathe once a week, maybe.

Valguard Toebreakerson February 1st 08 09:31 PM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:59:57 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:19:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?


Originally, I went plasma because of viewing angle problems in the
living room. - Panasonic 42".

And I don't care what kind of LCD TV it is, I can tell the difference
sitting off angle, even minor, with an LCD that I can't see on a
plasma.

Now I have an LCD in my office - Toshiba 27" because I don't sit at an
angle to the TV. Comparatively, in terms of picture color, blah,
blah, blah it's about the same in terms of performance.

So that's why I went with plasma in the living room and LCD in my
office.


Have you ever thought about moving your throne within the living room?


Well, therein lies a story.

We have different viewing habits. I don't watch a lot of TV in prime
time. When I do, it's either something on Nat Geo, Discovery, History
or the BBC when they broadcast "Torchwood" or "Dr. Who". Occasionally
the Scifi Channel when something other than horror movies are on. Mrs.
Wave watches "Big Brother", "Survivor", the various crime shows and
"American Idol" which are anathema to me.

Also, because we moved to a small house when the last kiddie moved on,
when it's her turn for the weekly meeting of The Coven, I have to have
a place to hide because The Coven is all over the living room and
kitchen. Additionally the office is sound proofed.

Back when we still lived up the hill at the big house, it was much
easier because the barn is all setup with a separate room which used
to hold my radio equipment, wood shop and work bench. But I digress.

Additionally, because of my arthritis, I have a special chair that is
very comfortable for me to sit in - I have trouble sitting in chairs
in general, so it's just easier.

Or are you just the Galactic Overlord when your wife permits?


Expect a visit from my minions for such insolence. :)

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 1st 08 09:44 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with the
recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought that
might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?



We just bought (another) HD TV. This one is a 46" Samsung LCD. As I've
mentioned before, we also have two 42" plasmas and a 50" plasma. All are
also Samsungs. These are in addition to several smaller LCD sets from
various manufacturers.

I just finished hooking up and calibrating the new 46" LCD. It's connected
to cable HD, a regular DVD player and a Blu-Ray player. My impressions are
that it looks very, very good, especially after a few adjustments, but the
plasmas still have a richer, deeper color presentation, including the 50".
If all you watched was the LCD, it would be very satisfying and there would
be no need to expect more. It's only nerds like me that has to go compare
them, but the difference is obvious. The plasmas still are a bit better.
This analogy is not exactly representative, but the LCD display is like a
rich water color painting whereas the plasma is oil.

Eisboch



That has always been my impression, that the blacks were blacker and it
made the other colors more vivid.


William Bruce February 1st 08 10:03 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I just do as I am told. The "bar" room has become the girl's night out
hanging spot. I had to get the jukebox working, install the new TV,
interface everything through the room's sound system, hook up a Karaoke
system, install a sound (music) actuated, multi-colored LED "light show"
system and fix the refrigerator's thermostat.

snip..
Eisboch



We could hold our regular 'rec.boats' meetings at your place same night
as the ladies. One encouter with the motley crew here and those fine
ladies will be looking for a new spot ASAP.



There are a couple guys here who I suspect bathe once a week, maybe.


Hey Krauseter, just curious. You mentioned your gun earlier. How did you
get it. If you completed the application accurately, you would not have
qualified for gun ownership. Do you have it illegally?



Eisboch February 1st 08 10:21 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...



Don't be modest now. Tell him about the motorized large screen TV that
hides in the ceiling till you want to use it. Would be tough to move it
around the house though.


I forgot we had that.

Eisboch



John H.[_3_] February 1st 08 10:22 PM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:19:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with
the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought
that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T


For me it all came down to reflection. Plasma looked great in a dark room,
with a light behind the set. If there were windows or overhead lights, the
plasmas reflected way too much.

Given that, and the fact that I couldn't see all that much improvement in
plasma over LCD, we went with LCD.
--
John H

HK February 1st 08 10:23 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...

Don't be modest now. Tell him about the motorized large screen TV that
hides in the ceiling till you want to use it. Would be tough to move it
around the house though.


I forgot we had that.

Eisboch



We have a mirror on our ceiling. :}


John H.[_3_] February 1st 08 10:23 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:10:53 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with
the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought
that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

T


The plasma TV can be used to save lives when there aren't enough blood
donors. This is so obvious.



This newsgroup is plagued with couch potato(e)s.


Hey! I resemble that remark (watching Football and Baseball that is).

BTW: I see Reggie continues to butt in on my decision to go LCD. What an
ass.

BTW2: LCD is the better choice in rooms with a lot of light. The Sony
that Wayne purchased (and I will be purchasing) was rated #1 and equal to
the many Plasmas in terms of picture quality.


Your narcissism is getting much worse than Harry's.
--
John H

Jim February 1st 08 10:53 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...

Don't be modest now. Tell him about the motorized large screen TV that
hides in the ceiling till you want to use it. Would be tough to move it
around the house though.


I forgot we had that.

Eisboch


We have a mirror on our ceiling. :}

And a velvet picture of Elvis on the wall. How kewel you are.


HK February 1st 08 11:01 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...

Don't be modest now. Tell him about the motorized large screen TV
that hides in the ceiling till you want to use it. Would be tough to
move it around the house though.

I forgot we had that.

Eisboch


We have a mirror on our ceiling. :}

And a velvet picture of Elvis on the wall. How kewel you are.


Ahh. Mr. "Wetback"

BAR February 1st 08 11:18 PM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
William Bruce wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I just do as I am told. The "bar" room has become the girl's night out
hanging spot. I had to get the jukebox working, install the new TV,
interface everything through the room's sound system, hook up a Karaoke
system, install a sound (music) actuated, multi-colored LED "light show"
system and fix the refrigerator's thermostat.
snip..
Eisboch


We could hold our regular 'rec.boats' meetings at your place same night
as the ladies. One encouter with the motley crew here and those fine
ladies will be looking for a new spot ASAP.


There are a couple guys here who I suspect bathe once a week, maybe.


Hey Krauseter, just curious. You mentioned your gun earlier. How did you
get it. If you completed the application accurately, you would not have
qualified for gun ownership. Do you have it illegally?


It's his wife's gun!

John H.[_3_] February 1st 08 11:19 PM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:24:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:19:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?


Originally, I went plasma because of viewing angle problems in the
living room. - Panasonic 42".

And I don't care what kind of LCD TV it is, I can tell the difference
sitting off angle, even minor, with an LCD that I can't see on a
plasma.

Now I have an LCD in my office - Toshiba 27" because I don't sit at an
angle to the TV. Comparatively, in terms of picture color, blah,
blah, blah it's about the same in terms of performance.

So that's why I went with plasma in the living room and LCD in my
office.


What kind of angle are you talking about? I watch regularly about 20
degrees off center, and the picture looks pretty good to me.

I don't have a plasma here to compare it to, but I didn't notice any big
difference in Best Buy with the two types right next to each other.
--
John H

Eisboch February 1st 08 11:34 PM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"John H." wrote in message
...


I don't have a plasma here to compare it to, but I didn't notice any big
difference in Best Buy with the two types right next to each other.


"Torch Mode"

Eisboch



John H.[_3_] February 1st 08 11:39 PM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 18:34:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .


I don't have a plasma here to compare it to, but I didn't notice any big
difference in Best Buy with the two types right next to each other.


"Torch Mode"

Eisboch


Yeah, but they were all in the same mode.
--
John H

Steve February 2nd 08 12:06 AM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:19:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I had been reading that Plasma was the way to go with larger sets, with
the recent improvements in LCD with the 120 hz refresh rate, I thought
that might have some benefits over Plasma.

After reading this:
http://review.zdnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32468193.html

I really don't see any.

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?


Power consumption, heat generation, picture brightness, operational
lifetime, reliability. Another big reason is that even if you go by
the rated spec for Plasma length of service, that doesn't include
burn-in. I use my LCD TV as a *big* computer monitor and also for
playing games with the PS3. LCD does not suffer from screen burn with
static areas of bright screen. Plasma does.

When I watch a 4:3 program on my widescreen, I don't want to
strrreeecchhhhh it to fill the screen and have it distorted. But you
have to do that to prevent plasma burn-in. I want to see it 4:3 with
black bars on the side. If you do that a lot with plasma, the area
where the bars are will eventually be brighter than the rest of the
screen when you watch a fullscreen program. Some stations put gray
bars up for you to prevent plasma burn-in. But they're far and few
between. If you watch a lot of movies with the 2.35 aspect ratio,
your plasma display will burn-in the area between the black bars on
the top and bottom of the display.

It doesn't matter anyway as this whole debate will become moot as soon
as LED panel technology becomes more mature.

Steve

Short Wave Sportfishing February 2nd 08 12:15 AM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:19:48 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:24:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:19:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?


Originally, I went plasma because of viewing angle problems in the
living room. - Panasonic 42".

And I don't care what kind of LCD TV it is, I can tell the difference
sitting off angle, even minor, with an LCD that I can't see on a
plasma.

Now I have an LCD in my office - Toshiba 27" because I don't sit at an
angle to the TV. Comparatively, in terms of picture color, blah,
blah, blah it's about the same in terms of performance.

So that's why I went with plasma in the living room and LCD in my
office.


What kind of angle are you talking about? I watch regularly about 20
degrees off center, and the picture looks pretty good to me.


I can tell the difference just sitting one or two feet right or left.

I don't have a plasma here to compare it to, but I didn't notice any big
difference in Best Buy with the two types right next to each other.


I can.

Short Wave Sportfishing February 2nd 08 12:16 AM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 18:34:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .


I don't have a plasma here to compare it to, but I didn't notice any big
difference in Best Buy with the two types right next to each other.


"Torch Mode"


Is that what they call overdriving blue?

Steve February 2nd 08 12:17 AM

Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:44:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:


That has always been my impression, that the blacks were blacker and it
made the other colors more vivid.


That is really the one area where plasmas still have an advantage over
LCD: deeper blacks. If that's you're only criteria, plasma wins.
Almost every other criteria is either a tie or LCD wins. The
vividness of colors on the LCD really depends a lot on how you have it
adjusted. You can make the colors way too vivid if you want to. So
if it can display colors *too* vivid, it looks fine when you dial it
back.

Another thing about color reproduction on LCD panels is that it really
depends greatly on what kind of panel you have. TN, IPS, S-IPS, PVA
are pretty much in the order of greater color ability. Also in the
order of cost. The backlight type makes a difference too. So cheaper
LCD panels are going to have a problem reproducing some colors while
more expensive ones will do just fine.

A good CRT, like one with a Sony Trinitron tube, will blow away any
LCD or Plasma panel for picture quality when it comes to black level
and color reproduction. That's why those are still used by
photo/graphics artists. We have some high-end Sun CRTs at work next
to a bunch of flat panel LCDs and the difference is stunning.

Steve

John H.[_3_] February 2nd 08 12:30 AM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:15:02 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:19:48 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:24:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:19:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?

Originally, I went plasma because of viewing angle problems in the
living room. - Panasonic 42".

And I don't care what kind of LCD TV it is, I can tell the difference
sitting off angle, even minor, with an LCD that I can't see on a
plasma.

Now I have an LCD in my office - Toshiba 27" because I don't sit at an
angle to the TV. Comparatively, in terms of picture color, blah,
blah, blah it's about the same in terms of performance.

So that's why I went with plasma in the living room and LCD in my
office.


What kind of angle are you talking about? I watch regularly about 20
degrees off center, and the picture looks pretty good to me.


I can tell the difference just sitting one or two feet right or left.

I don't have a plasma here to compare it to, but I didn't notice any big
difference in Best Buy with the two types right next to each other.


I can.


That's the result of calibrated eyeballs.
--
John H

Eisboch February 2nd 08 02:09 AM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"Steve" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:19:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

Why would someone prefer the LCD or the better Plasma models?




Power consumption, heat generation, picture brightness, operational
lifetime, reliability. Another big reason is that even if you go by
the rated spec for Plasma length of service, that doesn't include
burn-in. I use my LCD TV as a *big* computer monitor and also for
playing games with the PS3. LCD does not suffer from screen burn with
static areas of bright screen. Plasma does.




Steve, please don't think I am arguing with you or against LCD, but your
information is dated.

Newer plasma displays are not permanently affected by screen burn. If used
as a
video game monitor for hours and hours, they may develop a temporary
residual image, but it goes away in a short period of time. The older
plasmas *did* have a permanent screen burn problem and the owner's manuals
warned against using them for extended periods of time with static images
like video games or watching in a non-wide screen mode. That is no longer
true, but the reputation remains.

BTW, my daughter with the two boys has a 3-4 year old plasma and the boys
use it for hours and hours (too much) playing their various video games.
There's no evidence of screen burn on their set.

Power consumption is an issue, although the difference between a large
screen LCD and a large screen plasma is not a huge issue. 100 watts or less
difference.

I still maintain that the plasma, when adjusted properly, produces a better
quality picture than a properly adjusted LCD, and I just spend an hour or so
re-confirming that. The new LCD is very nice. The older 50" plasma is
better. Both are Samsungs. The difference is really only important to
nit-pickers, like me.

Frankly, since I picked up, carried into the house and installed these TV's
myself, the biggest advantage of the 46" LCD over the 50" plasma is that the
LCD weighs about half that of the plasma. :-)

Eisboch




Eisboch February 2nd 08 02:12 AM

OT : Plasma vs LCD TV
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 18:34:01 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..


I don't have a plasma here to compare it to, but I didn't notice any big
difference in Best Buy with the two types right next to each other.


"Torch Mode"


Is that what they call overdriving blue?


Yes. If you used your Digital Video Essentials disk and did the color
adjustment while looking through the blue filter they provide, I'll bet your
setting ended up significantly lower than the factory default setting.

Eisboch




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