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HK January 30th 08 02:16 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.

[email protected] January 30th 08 04:32 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 29, 9:16 pm, HK wrote:
Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


By Bushcrappers you of course mean legitimate voters. I know your
party is not really interested in voter integrity, but it really is
the American way of doing things. But I am having fun watching the
wheels come off your party's facade of racial and gender tolerance. I
think a huge chunk of your party's core may be having a revelation,
which could lead to a revolution;) Good for America to see the truth
finally come out.

Chuck Gould January 30th 08 04:34 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 29, 6:16�pm, HK wrote:
Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


Hear hear.

Congratulations to the Florida Republicans for making a very wise
choice.

I haven't voted Republican for POTUS in a very long while. Depending
upon who the Democrats nominate, I could imagine voting for McCain
this fall without too much angst.

I *despise* (!) a lot of McCain's political stands, but POTUS needs to
be about character and leadership moreso than politics. McCain scores
highly in the personal integrity and ability categories, and most
people who agree with my politics should be put in jail, anyway- not
elected POTUS. :-)

A McCain candidacy would help improve the tarnished image of the
Republican party and maybe put a few R's back into congress, but
assuming that the D's hold the majority in congress we would be back
to what is historically the best arrangement in Washington DC- the
executive and legislative branches controlled by different parties.

Tim January 30th 08 04:44 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 29, 10:34Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:16�pm, HK wrote:

Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


Hear hear.

Congratulations to the Florida Republicans for making a very wise
choice.

I haven't voted Republican for POTUS in a very long while. Depending
upon who the Democrats nominate, I could imagine voting for McCain
this fall without too much angst.

I *despise* (!) a lot of McCain's political stands, but POTUS needs to
be about character and leadership moreso than politics. McCain scores
highly in the personal integrity and ability categories, and most
people who agree with my politics should be put in jail, anyway- not
elected POTUS. :-)

A McCain candidacy would help improve the tarnished image of the
Republican party and maybe put a few R's back into congress, but
assuming that the D's hold the majority in congress we would be back
to what is historically the best arrangement in Washington DC- the
executive and legislative branches controlled by different parties.


Now I'm not up on the political scam er scheme, but how could Hillary
get such a huge cropping over Barrak, and no delegates, and McCain
topples Romney and gets 52???

Really I don't know that much about the whole primary process.

Chuck Gould January 30th 08 04:47 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 29, 8:32�pm, wrote:
On Jan 29, 9:16 pm, HK wrote:

Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


By Bushcrappers you of course mean legitimate voters. I know your
party is not really interested in voter integrity, but it really is
the American way of doing things. But I am having fun watching the
wheels come off your party's facade of racial and gender tolerance. I
think a huge chunk of your party's core may be having a revelation,
which could lead to a revolution;) Good for America to see the truth
finally come out.


By Bushcrappers Harry of course means the proBush push-poll callers
who phoned huge percentages of the "legitimate voters" in South
Carolina supposedly to ask questions about the voters attitudes toward
candidates.

One of the questions was along the line of, "Reflecting now on your
impression of John McCain, would your impression be better, worse, or
unchanged if you learned that he had fathered a mixed race child out
of wedlock with one of his secretaries?" Now of course the question
was entirely hypothetical, nobody ever *claimed* that McCain actually
fathered a mixed race child out of wedlock, the supposed "poll" simply
wanted to know how the voters reactions would change if they knew or
thought that he had.

Anyway, down South Carolina way those good ol' "legitimate voters"
probably figured that where there was smoke there just might be some
fire; and if getting a blow job from a white woman was enough grounds
to try to terminate one presidency then having an extra-marital affair
that resulted in a mixed race ******* child was no way to begin
another.

Here's hoping both of your parties can field quality candidates that
can run on the issues instead of trying to win with sickening, sleazy
tricks and character assassination.

Chuck Gould January 30th 08 05:05 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 29, 8:44Â*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 10:34Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:





On Jan 29, 6:16�pm, HK wrote:


Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


Hear hear.


Congratulations to the Florida Republicans for making a very wise
choice.


I haven't voted Republican for POTUS in a very long while. Depending
upon who the Democrats nominate, I could imagine voting for McCain
this fall without too much angst.


I *despise* (!) a lot of McCain's political stands, but POTUS needs to
be about character and leadership moreso than politics. McCain scores
highly in the personal integrity and ability categories, and most
people who agree with my politics should be put in jail, anyway- not
elected POTUS. :-)


A McCain candidacy would help improve the tarnished image of the
Republican party and maybe put a few R's back into congress, but
assuming that the D's hold the majority in congress we would be back
to what is historically the best arrangement in Washington DC- the
executive and legislative branches controlled by different parties.


Now I'm not up on the political scam er scheme, but how could Hillary
get such a huge cropping over Barrak, and no delegates, and McCain
topples Romney and gets 52???

Really I don't know that much about the whole primary process.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Depends what states you win. Big states, more delegates. I don't know
how many states have "winner take all" primaries, and in those that do
not a 60-40 vote split can mean six delegates for the "winner" and
four for the "loser". One of Hillary's victories was in a state that
was disqualtifed by the D party for holding its primary too early, so
she got no delegates there. IIRC- Obama didn't campaing too vigorously
in the "no delegate" state.

Tim January 30th 08 05:07 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 29, 10:47*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:


Here's hoping both of your parties can field quality candidates that
can run on the issues instead of trying to win with sickening, sleazy
tricks and character assassination.


chuck, now you're hypothetically speaking...

?:


Sam[_3_] January 30th 08 05:47 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers screwed
him over in South Carolina in 2000.


Even better, Florida sent the Unions packing on Amendment 1, which won 64%
to 36%.
Double the homestead tax exemption, and homestead portability when you move.





[email protected] January 30th 08 06:10 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 29, 11:47Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 29, 8:32�pm, wrote:

On Jan 29, 9:16 pm, HK wrote:


Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


By Bushcrappers you of course mean legitimate voters. I know your
party is not really interested in voter integrity, but it really is
the American way of doing things. But I am having fun watching the
wheels come off your party's facade of racial and gender tolerance. I
think a huge chunk of your party's core may be having a revelation,
which could lead to a revolution;) Good for America to see the truth
finally come out.


By Bushcrappers Harry of course means the proBush push-poll callers
who phoned huge percentages of the "legitimate voters" in South
Carolina supposedly to ask questions about the voters attitudes toward
candidates.

One of the questions was along the line of, "Reflecting now on your
impression of John McCain, would your impression be better, worse, or
unchanged if you learned that he had fathered a mixed race child out
of wedlock with one of his secretaries?" Now of course the question
was entirely hypothetical, nobody ever *claimed* that McCain actually
fathered a mixed race child out of wedlock, the supposed "poll" simply
wanted to know how the voters reactions would change if they knew or
thought that he had.

Anyway, down South Carolina way those good ol' "legitimate voters"
probably figured that where there was smoke there just might be some
fire; and if getting a blow job from a white woman was enough grounds
to try to terminate one presidency then having an extra-marital affair
that resulted in a mixed race ******* child was no way to begin
another.

Here's hoping both of your parties can field quality candidates that
can run on the issues instead of trying to win with sickening, sleazy
tricks and character assassination.


Pushpolling... hummm, new concept??

Eisboch January 30th 08 06:11 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

Depends what states you win. Big states, more delegates. I don't know
how many states have "winner take all" primaries, and in those that do
not a 60-40 vote split can mean six delegates for the "winner" and
four for the "loser". One of Hillary's victories was in a state that
was disqualtifed by the D party for holding its primary too early, so
she got no delegates there. IIRC- Obama didn't campaing too vigorously
in the "no delegate" state.

--------------------------------------------------------------


Florida forfeited any Democratic Delegates because of the date change of the
primary.
Hillary initially didn't pay too much attention either until Obama won so
big in SC.
Then she did an about-face and campaigned in Florida.

She was just on MSNBC, claiming a "huge" victory.

Comical.

Eisboch



[email protected] January 30th 08 06:13 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 30, 12:07*am, Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 10:47*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:



Here's hoping both of your parties can field quality candidates that
can run on the issues instead of trying to win with sickening, sleazy
tricks and character assassination.


chuck, now you're hypothetically speaking...

?:


Tim, the answer to your question will be the next big election issue
for the supreme court. Both republicans and democrats broke party
rules by making their primary in FLA before super tuesday. The
democratic party has decided to punish FLA by not counting its
delegates to the convension, the repubs did not. Thus, the repubs will
get delegates, the dems not, until the Clintons drag the party all the
way to the cheif justice.. Just like getting military votes thrown
out, trust me this is not over yet...

Just a simple guy who likes to play with sharks...;)

RLM January 30th 08 10:20 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:55:52 -0500, gfretwell wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:47:37 GMT, "Sam" wrote:

Even better, Florida sent the Unions packing on Amendment 1, which won
64% to 36%.
Double the homestead tax exemption, and homestead portability when you
move.


That is, "Save our homes" cap portability when you move.

Sam, you overlook this is a right to work state. Unions don't pack that
much punch even up north. You must be a local college student.


This was sold that way but it isn't really true. You don't get this double
exemption from the school tax and that is the biggest line item on your
tax bill. It really only means a couple hundred bucks a year for most
people and Charlie hasn't even explained how he will pay for it.
This is basically the real estate agent relief act of 2008.


Finally someone that understands this phony BS from the Great Charlie
from Pinellas. Jeb the, insurance companies whore's, chosen one.

Most think they can homestead the first $50,000. Wait till they hear the
truth of how that works and the local government will end up collecting to
make up what they think they'll save. After all, they expect the services
that they have become accustomed to. Volunteers seem to be in short supply.
Their going to pay for it anyway.

I look for every half-assed starving real estate agent to be at the tax
appraisers office in the morning looking for gainful employment as
re-appraisers.

Then, to top it off, only the war whores won here other than Mr. 911.

Maybe they'll draft their grand kids out of advanced high school, aka,
college, and start another war to employ them. That will open up some
service jobs in the fast food industry.

The weather and fishing is always better than where I grew up so I'll
stick around here anyway.

Please excuse the rant.

Short Wave Sportfishing January 30th 08 11:14 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:44:56 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 29, 10:34*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:16?pm, HK wrote:

Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


Hear hear.

Congratulations to the Florida Republicans for making a very wise
choice.

I haven't voted Republican for POTUS in a very long while. Depending
upon who the Democrats nominate, I could imagine voting for McCain
this fall without too much angst.

I *despise* (!) a lot of McCain's political stands, but POTUS needs to
be about character and leadership moreso than politics. McCain scores
highly in the personal integrity and ability categories, and most
people who agree with my politics should be put in jail, anyway- not
elected POTUS. :-)

A McCain candidacy would help improve the tarnished image of the
Republican party and maybe put a few R's back into congress, but
assuming that the D's hold the majority in congress we would be back
to what is historically the best arrangement in Washington DC- the
executive and legislative branches controlled by different parties.


Now I'm not up on the political scam er scheme, but how could Hillary
get such a huge cropping over Barrak, and no delegates, and McCain
topples Romney and gets 52???

Really I don't know that much about the whole primary process.


It's called cheating.

Back in August, Michigan and Florida moved their primary dates forward
and the DNC (Democratic National Committee) as a punishment said the
state delegates would not be seated at the convention.

ALL Democratic candidates at the time promised not to campaign in
Michigan and Florida.

Guess who reneged on both pledges?

Anyway, now Billary wants the delegates seated from - hold on - from
Michigan and Florida.

Funny how that works huh?

Jim January 30th 08 11:30 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 30, 12:07 am, Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 10:47 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:



Here's hoping both of your parties can field quality candidates that
can run on the issues instead of trying to win with sickening, sleazy
tricks and character assassination.


chuck, now you're hypothetically speaking...

?:


Tim, the answer to your question will be the next big election issue
for the supreme court. Both republicans and democrats broke party
rules by making their primary in FLA before super tuesday. The
democratic party has decided to punish FLA by not counting its
delegates to the convension, the repubs did not. Thus, the repubs will
get delegates, the dems not, until the Clintons drag the party all the
way to the cheif justice.. Just like getting military votes thrown
out, trust me this is not over yet...

Just a simple guy who likes to play with sharks...;)

Hope you're right. There's just something wrong when a political party can
deprive any voter of the right to have his vote counted in the selection
process. Might even be unconstitutional.


Jim January 30th 08 11:35 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
Now I'm not up on the political scam er scheme, but how could Hillary
get such a huge cropping over Barrak, and no delegates, and McCain
topples Romney and gets 52???

Really I don't know that much about the whole primary process.

Mebee there really is a god ;-)


Jim January 30th 08 11:38 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

Depends what states you win. Big states, more delegates. I don't know
how many states have "winner take all" primaries, and in those that do
not a 60-40 vote split can mean six delegates for the "winner" and
four for the "loser". One of Hillary's victories was in a state that
was disqualtifed by the D party for holding its primary too early, so
she got no delegates there. IIRC- Obama didn't campaing too vigorously
in the "no delegate" state.

--------------------------------------------------------------


Florida forfeited any Democratic Delegates because of the date change of
the primary.
Hillary initially didn't pay too much attention either until Obama won so
big in SC.
Then she did an about-face and campaigned in Florida.

She was just on MSNBC, claiming a "huge" victory.

Comical.

Eisboch

God is really watching over us, isn't he/she?


Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] January 30th 08 11:39 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
wrote:
On Jan 29, 9:16 pm, HK wrote:
Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


By Bushcrappers you of course mean legitimate voters. I know your
party is not really interested in voter integrity, but it really is
the American way of doing things. But I am having fun watching the
wheels come off your party's facade of racial and gender tolerance. I
think a huge chunk of your party's core may be having a revelation,
which could lead to a revolution;) Good for America to see the truth
finally come out.


Can you believe how Billy C. has been playing the race card. Even
Sharpton is telling Bill to shut up.



HK January 30th 08 11:40 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
wrote:
On Jan 29, 9:16 pm, HK wrote:
Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


By Bushcrappers you of course mean legitimate voters. I know your
party is not really interested in voter integrity, but it really is
the American way of doing things. But I am having fun watching the
wheels come off your party's facade of racial and gender tolerance. I
think a huge chunk of your party's core may be having a revelation,
which could lead to a revolution;) Good for America to see the truth
finally come out.



No, I am *not* referring to legitimate voters in South Carolina. I am
referring to the thugs in South Carolina who...oh, nevermind. You
wouldn't get it anyway.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] January 30th 08 11:40 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:16�pm, HK wrote:
Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


Hear hear.

Congratulations to the Florida Republicans for making a very wise
choice.

I haven't voted Republican for POTUS in a very long while. Depending
upon who the Democrats nominate, I could imagine voting for McCain
this fall without too much angst.

I *despise* (!) a lot of McCain's political stands, but POTUS needs to
be about character and leadership moreso than politics. McCain scores
highly in the personal integrity and ability categories, and most
people who agree with my politics should be put in jail, anyway- not
elected POTUS. :-)

A McCain candidacy would help improve the tarnished image of the
Republican party and maybe put a few R's back into congress, but
assuming that the D's hold the majority in congress we would be back
to what is historically the best arrangement in Washington DC- the
executive and legislative branches controlled by different parties.


I would love to see McCain and Obama in Nov.


Jim January 30th 08 11:41 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:44:56 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 29, 10:34 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:16?pm, HK wrote:

Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.

Hear hear.

Congratulations to the Florida Republicans for making a very wise
choice.

I haven't voted Republican for POTUS in a very long while. Depending
upon who the Democrats nominate, I could imagine voting for McCain
this fall without too much angst.

I *despise* (!) a lot of McCain's political stands, but POTUS needs to
be about character and leadership moreso than politics. McCain scores
highly in the personal integrity and ability categories, and most
people who agree with my politics should be put in jail, anyway- not
elected POTUS. :-)

A McCain candidacy would help improve the tarnished image of the
Republican party and maybe put a few R's back into congress, but
assuming that the D's hold the majority in congress we would be back
to what is historically the best arrangement in Washington DC- the
executive and legislative branches controlled by different parties.


Now I'm not up on the political scam er scheme, but how could Hillary
get such a huge cropping over Barrak, and no delegates, and McCain
topples Romney and gets 52???

Really I don't know that much about the whole primary process.


It's called cheating.

Back in August, Michigan and Florida moved their primary dates forward
and the DNC (Democratic National Committee) as a punishment said the
state delegates would not be seated at the convention.

ALL Democratic candidates at the time promised not to campaign in
Michigan and Florida.

Guess who reneged on both pledges?

Anyway, now Billary wants the delegates seated from - hold on - from
Michigan and Florida.

Funny how that works huh?

Al least she can't do the hanging chad dance. The time for the bitch to
bitch was before the primary. Now it's just sour grapes.


Jim January 30th 08 11:44 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:47:37 GMT, "Sam" wrote:

Even better, Florida sent the Unions packing on Amendment 1, which won 64%
to 36%.
Double the homestead tax exemption, and homestead portability when you
move.


This was sold that way but it isn't really true. You don't get this
double exemption from the school tax and that is the biggest line item
on your tax bill. It really only means a couple hundred bucks a year
for most people and Charlie hasn't even explained how he will pay for
it.
This is basically the real estate agent relief act of 2008.

It should help. You might see an uptick in RE activity.


HK January 30th 08 11:45 AM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 29, 8:32�pm, wrote:
On Jan 29, 9:16 pm, HK wrote:

Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.

By Bushcrappers you of course mean legitimate voters. I know your
party is not really interested in voter integrity, but it really is
the American way of doing things. But I am having fun watching the
wheels come off your party's facade of racial and gender tolerance. I
think a huge chunk of your party's core may be having a revelation,
which could lead to a revolution;) Good for America to see the truth
finally come out.


By Bushcrappers Harry of course means the proBush push-poll callers
who phoned huge percentages of the "legitimate voters" in South
Carolina supposedly to ask questions about the voters attitudes toward
candidates.

One of the questions was along the line of, "Reflecting now on your
impression of John McCain, would your impression be better, worse, or
unchanged if you learned that he had fathered a mixed race child out
of wedlock with one of his secretaries?" Now of course the question
was entirely hypothetical, nobody ever *claimed* that McCain actually
fathered a mixed race child out of wedlock, the supposed "poll" simply
wanted to know how the voters reactions would change if they knew or
thought that he had.



Bingo.

It was a bit worse than that, though. The McCains have a child with
"non-white looking skin" they adopted. What did the Bushcrappers do with
that bit of info? Use your imagination.

Eisboch January 30th 08 12:22 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...


It was a bit worse than that, though. The McCains have a child with
"non-white looking skin" they adopted. What did the Bushcrappers do with
that bit of info? Use your imagination.


Nicknamed him Barack?

Eisboch



John H.[_3_] January 30th 08 12:24 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:34:50 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Jan 29, 6:16?pm, HK wrote:
Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.


Hear hear.

Congratulations to the Florida Republicans for making a very wise
choice.

I haven't voted Republican for POTUS in a very long while. Depending
upon who the Democrats nominate, I could imagine voting for McCain
this fall without too much angst.

I *despise* (!) a lot of McCain's political stands, but POTUS needs to
be about character and leadership moreso than politics. McCain scores
highly in the personal integrity and ability categories, and most
people who agree with my politics should be put in jail, anyway- not
elected POTUS. :-)

A McCain candidacy would help improve the tarnished image of the
Republican party and maybe put a few R's back into congress, but
assuming that the D's hold the majority in congress we would be back
to what is historically the best arrangement in Washington DC- the
executive and legislative branches controlled by different parties.


We may just cancel each other's vote. I believe a liberal Democrat would
not be good for the country. But, if a liberal is going to be elected to
screw things up, it should be a Democrat liberal- not a Republican liberal.
If it becomes a McCain/Obama race, Obama may just get my vote. If it's a
McCain/Hillary race, then I'll have to rethink.

I'll do the rethinking on the boat, while fishing for something.
--
John H

HK January 30th 08 12:37 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

Depends what states you win. Big states, more delegates. I don't know
how many states have "winner take all" primaries, and in those that do
not a 60-40 vote split can mean six delegates for the "winner" and
four for the "loser". One of Hillary's victories was in a state that
was disqualtifed by the D party for holding its primary too early, so
she got no delegates there. IIRC- Obama didn't campaing too vigorously
in the "no delegate" state.

--------------------------------------------------------------


Florida forfeited any Democratic Delegates because of the date change of the
primary.
Hillary initially didn't pay too much attention either until Obama won so
big in SC.
Then she did an about-face and campaigned in Florida.

She was just on MSNBC, claiming a "huge" victory.

Comical.

Eisboch



None of the remaining three Dems campaigned in Florida. Hillary attended
a few private and closed fundraisers in Florida, and did not "appear" in
the state until the the polls closed. She also got more votes in Florida
than any candidate of either party running there in the primaries.

While there were no delegates in play, it was a significant victory, and
when the Dems change their minds about delegates, she will get the
majority of the Florida ones.

Jim January 30th 08 12:47 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

Depends what states you win. Big states, more delegates. I don't know
how many states have "winner take all" primaries, and in those that do
not a 60-40 vote split can mean six delegates for the "winner" and
four for the "loser". One of Hillary's victories was in a state that
was disqualtifed by the D party for holding its primary too early, so
she got no delegates there. IIRC- Obama didn't campaing too vigorously
in the "no delegate" state.

--------------------------------------------------------------


Florida forfeited any Democratic Delegates because of the date change of
the primary.
Hillary initially didn't pay too much attention either until Obama won so
big in SC.
Then she did an about-face and campaigned in Florida.

She was just on MSNBC, claiming a "huge" victory.

Comical.

Eisboch


None of the remaining three Dems campaigned in Florida. Hillary attended a
few private and closed fundraisers in Florida, and did not "appear" in the
state until the the polls closed. She also got more votes in Florida than
any candidate of either party running there in the primaries.

While there were no delegates in play, it was a significant victory, and
when the Dems change their minds about delegates, she will get the
majority of the Florida ones


Sounds like you are saying the Clintons are already trying to rig the
election. I'm sure they have enough in their war chest to buy the DNC.
Wonder what other tricks they have up their sleeves.


[email protected] January 30th 08 12:55 PM

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:30:59 -0500, Jim wrote:


Hope you're right. There's just something wrong when a political party
can deprive any voter of the right to have his vote counted in the
selection process. Might even be unconstitutional.


If it was the election, definitely, but in the primary? I think the
parties hold all the cards. Unfortunately, I think they can set the
rules as we are not electing a President, just a party's candidate.

[email protected] January 30th 08 01:02 PM

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:45:05 -0500, HK wrote:


Bingo.

It was a bit worse than that, though. The McCains have a child with
"non-white looking skin" they adopted. What did the Bushcrappers do with
that bit of info? Use your imagination.


That was only a part of it.

http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/dcbo...8&topic_id=522

HK January 30th 08 01:08 PM

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wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:45:05 -0500, HK wrote:


Bingo.

It was a bit worse than that, though. The McCains have a child with
"non-white looking skin" they adopted. What did the Bushcrappers do with
that bit of info? Use your imagination.


That was only a part of it.

http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/dcbo...8&topic_id=522


That's correct. The Bushshippers played as dirty as possible in 2000.

HK January 30th 08 01:13 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:30:59 -0500, Jim wrote:


Hope you're right. There's just something wrong when a political party
can deprive any voter of the right to have his vote counted in the
selection process. Might even be unconstitutional.


If it was the election, definitely, but in the primary? I think the
parties hold all the cards. Unfortunately, I think they can set the
rules as we are not electing a President, just a party's candidate.



The Democrats are going to need their supporters in Florida to carry
that state later this year, and I am sure some sort of accommodate will
be worked out so the Sunshine State delegates are seated at the
convention and have voting privileges. The party wants motivated voters.

As for Hillary's win in Florida, it gives her campaign a boost now and
maybe more later. The fact that she got more votes than anyone else in
either party speaks for itself.

I still would like to see a Hillary-Barack ticket. It would totally
motivate the Democratic base, and pull in the majority of independents.
I think such a ticket would result in a slaughter of the GOP for the
presidency and for real control of Congress. It's going to take that
sort of control to try to undo the horrors perpetrated on this country
by the Bush Administration.

JoeSpareBedroom January 30th 08 01:26 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:45:05 -0500, HK wrote:


Bingo.

It was a bit worse than that, though. The McCains have a child with
"non-white looking skin" they adopted. What did the Bushcrappers do with
that bit of info? Use your imagination.


That was only a part of it.

http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/dcbo...8&topic_id=522



Nice. That adds a new twist to the "Did you serve in the military" question.
If you didn't, you're phuqued. If you did, you've got a screw loose.



John H.[_3_] January 30th 08 01:57 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:26:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:45:05 -0500, HK wrote:


Bingo.

It was a bit worse than that, though. The McCains have a child with
"non-white looking skin" they adopted. What did the Bushcrappers do with
that bit of info? Use your imagination.


That was only a part of it.

http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/dcbo...8&topic_id=522



Nice. That adds a new twist to the "Did you serve in the military" question.
If you didn't, you're phuqued. If you did, you've got a screw loose.


Someone will bite. Just hang in there. Look in the mirror while you're
waiting.
--
John H

BAR January 30th 08 02:08 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 29, 8:32�pm, wrote:
On Jan 29, 9:16 pm, HK wrote:

Glad to see it. I've been a McCain fan ever since the Bushcrappers
screwed him over in South Carolina in 2000.

By Bushcrappers you of course mean legitimate voters. I know your
party is not really interested in voter integrity, but it really is
the American way of doing things. But I am having fun watching the
wheels come off your party's facade of racial and gender tolerance. I
think a huge chunk of your party's core may be having a revelation,
which could lead to a revolution;) Good for America to see the truth
finally come out.


By Bushcrappers Harry of course means the proBush push-poll callers
who phoned huge percentages of the "legitimate voters" in South
Carolina supposedly to ask questions about the voters attitudes toward
candidates.

One of the questions was along the line of, "Reflecting now on your
impression of John McCain, would your impression be better, worse, or
unchanged if you learned that he had fathered a mixed race child out
of wedlock with one of his secretaries?" Now of course the question
was entirely hypothetical, nobody ever *claimed* that McCain actually
fathered a mixed race child out of wedlock, the supposed "poll" simply
wanted to know how the voters reactions would change if they knew or
thought that he had.


Ask that Question in Argentina.


JoeSpareBedroom January 30th 08 02:22 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:26:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:45:05 -0500, HK wrote:


Bingo.

It was a bit worse than that, though. The McCains have a child with
"non-white looking skin" they adopted. What did the Bushcrappers do
with
that bit of info? Use your imagination.

That was only a part of it.

http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/dcbo...8&topic_id=522



Nice. That adds a new twist to the "Did you serve in the military"
question.
If you didn't, you're phuqued. If you did, you've got a screw loose.


Someone will bite. Just hang in there. Look in the mirror while you're
waiting.
--
John H



You missed the point, John. The 3rd paragraph at the bartcopnation link
will help you, if you read it. I'm saying that you're damned if you and
you're damned if you don't, depending on how the information is used.

***ALWAYS*** read at least some of the linked information before you
respond.



HK January 30th 08 02:44 PM

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wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:13:25 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:30:59 -0500, Jim wrote:


Hope you're right. There's just something wrong when a political party
can deprive any voter of the right to have his vote counted in the
selection process. Might even be unconstitutional.
If it was the election, definitely, but in the primary? I think the
parties hold all the cards. Unfortunately, I think they can set the
rules as we are not electing a President, just a party's candidate.


The Democrats are going to need their supporters in Florida to carry
that state later this year, and I am sure some sort of accommodate will
be worked out so the Sunshine State delegates are seated at the
convention and have voting privileges. The party wants motivated voters.

As for Hillary's win in Florida, it gives her campaign a boost now and
maybe more later. The fact that she got more votes than anyone else in
either party speaks for itself.

I still would like to see a Hillary-Barack ticket. It would totally
motivate the Democratic base, and pull in the majority of independents.
I think such a ticket would result in a slaughter of the GOP for the
presidency and for real control of Congress. It's going to take that
sort of control to try to undo the horrors perpetrated on this country
by the Bush Administration.


Hillary is probably unelectable in a national election. Those
elections are decided by swing voters, and with Hillary, you either
love her or hate her. She's not going to do well with swing voters. If
the contest is between her and McCain, I think you'll see a lot of
moderate Dems voting for McCain, because there is no way they will
vote for Hillary if they have an escape route that is at all
palatable.






Your guess is as good as mine on this, but I think a Hillary-Barack
ticket would be unstoppable.

Eisboch January 30th 08 02:49 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...


Your guess is as good as mine on this, but I think a Hillary-Barack ticket
would be unstoppable.


Barack-Hillary would be better.

Oh, wait. She already *had* that job.

Eisboch



[email protected] January 30th 08 03:19 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 30, 10:17*am, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:49:20 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...


Your guess is as good as mine on this, but I think a Hillary-Barack ticket
would be unstoppable.


Barack-Hillary would be better.


Oh, wait. *She already **had* that job.


Eisboch


*I think Obama-Richardson would be a strong ticket. It adds someone
with substantial experience and expertise in foreign policy, and has
the added advantage of not including someone very divisive near the
top of the ticket.


I kind of like Richardson, the only thing I see wrong with him is he
was soooooo deep in Billarys pocket, I don't know if he could climb
out...

BAR January 30th 08 03:20 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:49:20 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Your guess is as good as mine on this, but I think a Hillary-Barack ticket
would be unstoppable.

Barack-Hillary would be better.

Oh, wait. She already *had* that job.

Eisboch


I think Obama-Richardson would be a strong ticket. It adds someone
with substantial experience and expertise in foreign policy, and has
the added advantage of not including someone very divisive near the
top of the ticket.



Are we going to hear the "gravitas" chorus from all of the political
pundits just like we did in 2000 when Bush picked Chenney? You do
realize what you are saying is that Obama is an empty suit and can't
handle the job without adult supervision.

[email protected] January 30th 08 03:35 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 30, 10:20*am, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:49:20 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


Your guess is as good as mine on this, but I think a Hillary-Barack ticket
would be unstoppable.
Barack-Hillary would be better.


Oh, wait. *She already **had* that job.


Eisboch


*I think Obama-Richardson would be a strong ticket. It adds someone
with substantial experience and expertise in foreign policy, and has
the added advantage of not including someone very divisive near the
top of the ticket.


Are we going to hear the "gravitas" chorus from all of the political
pundits just like we did in 2000 when Bush picked Chenney? You do
realize what you are saying is that Obama is an empty suit and can't
handle the job without adult supervision.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That is one reason I could take Obama over Billary....

[email protected] January 30th 08 03:45 PM

McCain wins Florida primary...
 
On Jan 30, 10:35*am, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:20:02 -0500, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:49:20 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


Your guess is as good as mine on this, but I think a Hillary-Barack ticket
would be unstoppable.
Barack-Hillary would be better.


Oh, wait. *She already **had* that job.


Eisboch


*I think Obama-Richardson would be a strong ticket. It adds someone
with substantial experience and expertise in foreign policy, and has
the added advantage of not including someone very divisive near the
top of the ticket.


Are we going to hear the "gravitas" chorus from all of the political
pundits just like we did in 2000 when Bush picked Chenney? You do
realize what you are saying is that Obama is an empty suit and can't
handle the job without adult supervision.


Not saying that at all. And when they picked a baby sitter for GWB,
it's too bad they settled on Jeffrey Dahmer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Dahmer was an amateur;)

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RA...CS/BODIES.html



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