Eisboch wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
There's very little difference between Hillary or Barack on ending Bush's
war. Hillary has said she will have a formal plan for doing so within 60
days of assuming office.

Don't get too excited about anybody's plan, regardless of their political
party. Decisions will be made based on the miserable reality of the
situation, not on what politicians say on television.



Exactly right. People, especially Hillary, promise a lot of things if it
gets a vote.
Big difference when you have to produce.

Eisboch




Have you listened to Mitt's promises? Hehehe. What an empty suit he is.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message

There's very little difference between Hillary or Barack on ending
Bush's war. Hillary has said she will have a formal plan for doing so
within 60 days of assuming office.


Don't get too excited about anybody's plan, regardless of their political
party. Decisions will be made based on the miserable reality of the
situation, not on what politicians say on television.



Exactly right. People, especially Hillary, promise a lot of things if it
gets a vote.
Big difference when you have to produce.

Eisboch

So true. Remember Hillarys plan to revamp healthcare? Nah. Probably not.

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
There's very little difference between Hillary or Barack on ending
Bush's war. Hillary has said she will have a formal plan for doing so
within 60 days of assuming office.

Don't get too excited about anybody's plan, regardless of their
political party. Decisions will be made based on the miserable reality
of the situation, not on what politicians say on television.



Exactly right. People, especially Hillary, promise a lot of things if it
gets a vote.
Big difference when you have to produce.

Eisboch


Have you listened to Mitt's promises? Hehehe. What an empty suit he is.

I suppose you wouldn't have any trouble filling that suit. Ya right.

"Jim" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message

There's very little difference between Hillary or Barack on ending
Bush's war. Hillary has said she will have a formal plan for doing so
within 60 days of assuming office.


Don't get too excited about anybody's plan, regardless of their
political party. Decisions will be made based on the miserable reality
of the situation, not on what politicians say on television.



Exactly right. People, especially Hillary, promise a lot of things if it
gets a vote.
Big difference when you have to produce.

Eisboch

So true. Remember Hillarys plan to revamp healthcare? Nah. Probably not.


At the moment, the invasion is the subject. That's the miserable reality I
referred to. Someone forgot to think about "how the phuque do we leave?"
Maybe that's what "someone" wanted to begin with: No way out.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Get your head out of the liberal sand. The whole world *knew* the man had
WMD, including the Democrats.

That liberal line has been old for a long time.
--
John H


Where did those WMDs go?


Since you don't trust Bush, why not ask Kerry. Or Biden. Or Pelosi. Or
Clinton. Or AGore. They all claimed they existed, well before George came
upon the scene and had a top secret clearance.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Get your head out of the liberal sand. The whole world *knew* the man
had
WMD, including the Democrats.

That liberal line has been old for a long time.
--
John H


Where did those WMDs go?


Since you don't trust Bush, why not ask Kerry. Or Biden. Or Pelosi. Or
Clinton. Or AGore. They all claimed they existed, well before George
came upon the scene and had a top secret clearance.

Eisboch


I know what those politicians think. I want to know what John thinks. That's
why I asked John. I want no other opinion on the issue except John's. Only
John's, exclusively.

John: Where do you think the WMDs went?

"JG2U" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:36:46 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:43:10 -0000, wrote:

I wonder if we will ever learn the real reason
for this war. It sure as hell wasn't WMD.

We took down Saddam so Israel wouldn't. In that regard Hillary was
behind it 100% along with Lieberman and McCain.
The only other option was to let Israel do it on their own ... very
unlikely or to back them and that would be worse than the mess we have
now.
The US has gone far out of their way to avoid using the "I" word. That
is why they came up with the Kurds, WMD and the idea of democracy for
Iraq.


Cynic that I am, I think it was because Bush had a hard-on for Iraq
before he took office, and directed his staff to cook the intel so he
could justify his attack to the American people. That and the fact that
he had dead-ended in the hunt for bin Laden in Afghanistan.

Only problem with that fantasy is the fact that the Dems were beating
the Iraq war drums long before Bush took office. The "intel" was
there before Bush was even a candidate. Try again.


True, but you would need to read more than just newspapers in order to
understand what changed from year to year. It requires books, which are
heavy.

"JG2U" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:32:09 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"JG2U" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:36:46 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:43:10 -0000, wrote:

I wonder if we will ever learn the real reason
for this war. It sure as hell wasn't WMD.

We took down Saddam so Israel wouldn't. In that regard Hillary was
behind it 100% along with Lieberman and McCain.
The only other option was to let Israel do it on their own ... very
unlikely or to back them and that would be worse than the mess we have
now.
The US has gone far out of their way to avoid using the "I" word. That
is why they came up with the Kurds, WMD and the idea of democracy for
Iraq.


Cynic that I am, I think it was because Bush had a hard-on for Iraq
before he took office, and directed his staff to cook the intel so he
could justify his attack to the American people. That and the fact that
he had dead-ended in the hunt for bin Laden in Afghanistan.

Only problem with that fantasy is the fact that the Dems were beating
the Iraq war drums long before Bush took office. The "intel" was
there before Bush was even a candidate. Try again.


True, but you would need to read more than just newspapers in order to
understand what changed from year to year. It requires books, which are
heavy.


True, but books, like movies, are sometimes fictional. Even the ones
posing as "real". It can be difficult for someone like you to tell
the difference.


Are you saying that you will *never* read books about recent American
history?

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:17:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:43:10 -0000, wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:14:16 -0500, HK wrote:


There's very little difference between Hillary or Barack on ending
Bush's war. Hillary has said she will have a formal plan for doing so
within 60 days of assuming office.

You know, I was against this war from the start, but there is something
about invading a country, wiping out it's government structure, and then
leaving it in shambles, that doesn't set well with me. It seems to me,
we now have a duty. How much of a duty? How many lives? I don't know,
but I'll be interested in the debate without the Nitwit and his unending
"terrorists" statements. I wonder if we will ever learn the real reason
for this war. It sure as hell wasn't WMD.

Get your head out of the liberal sand. The whole world *knew* the man had
WMD, including the Democrats.

That liberal line has been old for a long time.
--
John H


Where did those WMDs go?


Why was *knew* written the way it was?
--
John H

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:17:11 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:43:10 -0000, wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:14:16 -0500, HK wrote:


There's very little difference between Hillary or Barack on ending
Bush's war. Hillary has said she will have a formal plan for doing so
within 60 days of assuming office.

You know, I was against this war from the start, but there is something
about invading a country, wiping out it's government structure, and then
leaving it in shambles, that doesn't set well with me. It seems to me,
we now have a duty. How much of a duty? How many lives? I don't know,
but I'll be interested in the debate without the Nitwit and his unending
"terrorists" statements. I wonder if we will ever learn the real reason
for this war. It sure as hell wasn't WMD.

Get your head out of the liberal sand. The whole world *knew* the man
had
WMD, including the Democrats.

That liberal line has been old for a long time.
--
John H


Where did those WMDs go?


Why was *knew* written the way it was?
--
John H


Beats me. I didn't write it.

Stop trying to use distractions. Where did those WMDs go, John?