The History Channel ran a great documentary on oil over the weekend. It
explained how oil was (and still is) created from atoms of carbon and I
thought the whole thing was interesting. It also opened my eyes a bit.
For many reasons, not the least of which being the surprise emergence of
China and the growing oil demands of it's population, we looks like we may
be in deep doo-doo much sooner than forecast even 10 years ago.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
The History Channel ran a great documentary on oil over the weekend. It
explained how oil was (and still is) created from atoms of carbon and I
thought the whole thing was interesting. It also opened my eyes a bit.
For many reasons, not the least of which being the surprise emergence of
China and the growing oil demands of it's population, we looks like we may
be in deep doo-doo much sooner than forecast even 10 years ago.


We may be right to prevent drilling in the locations within the US
territorial boundaries. Saving our own oil for our selves.

"BAR" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
The History Channel ran a great documentary on oil over the weekend. It
explained how oil was (and still is) created from atoms of carbon and I
thought the whole thing was interesting. It also opened my eyes a bit.
For many reasons, not the least of which being the surprise emergence of
China and the growing oil demands of it's population, we looks like we
may be in deep doo-doo much sooner than forecast even 10 years ago.


We may be right to prevent drilling in the locations within the US
territorial boundaries. Saving our own oil for our selves.



Can you imagine if every country in the world had that selfish
attitude................

Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
The History Channel ran a great documentary on oil over the weekend. It
explained how oil was (and still is) created from atoms of carbon and I
thought the whole thing was interesting. It also opened my eyes a bit.
For many reasons, not the least of which being the surprise emergence of
China and the growing oil demands of it's population, we looks like we
may be in deep doo-doo much sooner than forecast even 10 years ago.

We may be right to prevent drilling in the locations within the US
territorial boundaries. Saving our own oil for our selves.



Can you imagine if every country in the world had that selfish
attitude................




It's BAR's "Christian approach" to life.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"BAR" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
The History Channel ran a great documentary on oil over the weekend. It
explained how oil was (and still is) created from atoms of carbon and I
thought the whole thing was interesting. It also opened my eyes a bit.
For many reasons, not the least of which being the surprise emergence of
China and the growing oil demands of it's population, we looks like we
may be in deep doo-doo much sooner than forecast even 10 years ago.


We may be right to prevent drilling in the locations within the US
territorial boundaries. Saving our own oil for our selves.



Can you imagine if every country in the world had that selfish
attitude................


I've got news for you. If the History Channel info is anywhere near being
correct, *every* country in the world will be quickly adopting a selfish
attitude. Makes you wonder about what's going on behind the scenes.

Eisboch

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:14:48 -0500, "John" wrote:

I strongly believe that the way to tackle the energy problem is to put solar
collectors on every building in the country

HERE HERE!!!

~~ saying that after buying a ton of solar fund stocks ~~

"John" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
The History Channel ran a great documentary on oil over the weekend. It
explained how oil was (and still is) created from atoms of carbon and I
thought the whole thing was interesting. It also opened my eyes a bit.
For many reasons, not the least of which being the surprise emergence of
China and the growing oil demands of it's population, we looks like we
may be in deep doo-doo much sooner than forecast even 10 years ago.

Eisboch


They also ran a show on global warming, it is global warming in the past
that created the oil in the first place.
But the basic tenant is that the more green house gases mankind spews, the
warmer the earth gets, the more melting that creates releases more
greenhouse gases, etc, etc, etc until the whole planet is too warm
everywhere but the artic.

And yes the earth goes through warming and cooling periods caused by the
sun - but this time mankind is a huge contributing factor.



I've resisted the temptation to jump on the "man is the cause of global
warming" bandwagon precisely because the earth has gone through these cycles
naturally for 10's of thousands of years. However, one thing caught my
attention while watching the HC documentary on global warming. Apparently
the earth is in a natural warming trend to begin with and the contributions
of mankind may influence the natural cycle back to cooling that would
otherwise occur. The issue of frozen methane being released from the ocean
floor due to the extra degree or two of water temp is scary. It could throw
the whole system, normally naturally regulated, out of control.

If it's true, it's too late. There's no way to stop it now, with the
dependence on oil that most developed nations have and particularly with the
newfound personal wealth in China causing the Chinese to hang up the
bicycles and buy their first auto.

Oh, well. Something else to worry about.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"John" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
The History Channel ran a great documentary on oil over the weekend. It
explained how oil was (and still is) created from atoms of carbon and I
thought the whole thing was interesting. It also opened my eyes a bit.
For many reasons, not the least of which being the surprise emergence of
China and the growing oil demands of it's population, we looks like we
may be in deep doo-doo much sooner than forecast even 10 years ago.

Eisboch

They also ran a show on global warming, it is global warming in the past
that created the oil in the first place.
But the basic tenant is that the more green house gases mankind spews, the
warmer the earth gets, the more melting that creates releases more
greenhouse gases, etc, etc, etc until the whole planet is too warm
everywhere but the artic.

And yes the earth goes through warming and cooling periods caused by the
sun - but this time mankind is a huge contributing factor.



I've resisted the temptation to jump on the "man is the cause of global
warming" bandwagon precisely because the earth has gone through these cycles
naturally for 10's of thousands of years. However, one thing caught my
attention while watching the HC documentary on global warming. Apparently
the earth is in a natural warming trend to begin with and the contributions
of mankind may influence the natural cycle back to cooling that would
otherwise occur. The issue of frozen methane being released from the ocean
floor due to the extra degree or two of water temp is scary. It could throw
the whole system, normally naturally regulated, out of control.

If it's true, it's too late. There's no way to stop it now, with the
dependence on oil that most developed nations have and particularly with the
newfound personal wealth in China causing the Chinese to hang up the
bicycles and buy their first auto.

Oh, well. Something else to worry about.

What about the asteroid that is predicted to "near miss" the Earth in
2028(http://www.cnn.com/TECH/space/9803/1...id/index.html).

"Eisboch" wrote in message ...

"John" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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The History Channel ran a great documentary on oil over the weekend. It
explained how oil was (and still is) created from atoms of carbon and I
thought the whole thing was interesting. It also opened my eyes a bit.
For many reasons, not the least of which being the surprise emergence of
China and the growing oil demands of it's population, we looks like we
may be in deep doo-doo much sooner than forecast even 10 years ago.

Eisboch


They also ran a show on global warming, it is global warming in the past
that created the oil in the first place.
But the basic tenant is that the more green house gases mankind spews, the
warmer the earth gets, the more melting that creates releases more
greenhouse gases, etc, etc, etc until the whole planet is too warm
everywhere but the artic.

And yes the earth goes through warming and cooling periods caused by the
sun - but this time mankind is a huge contributing factor.



I've resisted the temptation to jump on the "man is the cause of global
warming" bandwagon precisely because the earth has gone through these cycles
naturally for 10's of thousands of years.

10's or thousands?

The earth is over 4 billion years old. Its gone through cycles
before and will again whether CO2 emissions are the cause or not.
Sooner or later we're going to have to learn to live with
whatever comes. Im not going to go out a buy an electric car just yet.

We have yet to find a suitable energy replacement for petrolium.
Somebody needs to get to work on this pretty soon.

db

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:15:03 -0500, BAR wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"John" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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The History Channel ran a great documentary on oil over the weekend. It
explained how oil was (and still is) created from atoms of carbon and I
thought the whole thing was interesting. It also opened my eyes a bit.
For many reasons, not the least of which being the surprise emergence of
China and the growing oil demands of it's population, we looks like we
may be in deep doo-doo much sooner than forecast even 10 years ago.

Eisboch

They also ran a show on global warming, it is global warming in the past
that created the oil in the first place.
But the basic tenant is that the more green house gases mankind spews, the
warmer the earth gets, the more melting that creates releases more
greenhouse gases, etc, etc, etc until the whole planet is too warm
everywhere but the artic.

And yes the earth goes through warming and cooling periods caused by the
sun - but this time mankind is a huge contributing factor.



I've resisted the temptation to jump on the "man is the cause of global
warming" bandwagon precisely because the earth has gone through these cycles
naturally for 10's of thousands of years. However, one thing caught my
attention while watching the HC documentary on global warming. Apparently
the earth is in a natural warming trend to begin with and the contributions
of mankind may influence the natural cycle back to cooling that would
otherwise occur. The issue of frozen methane being released from the ocean
floor due to the extra degree or two of water temp is scary. It could throw
the whole system, normally naturally regulated, out of control.

If it's true, it's too late. There's no way to stop it now, with the
dependence on oil that most developed nations have and particularly with the
newfound personal wealth in China causing the Chinese to hang up the
bicycles and buy their first auto.

Oh, well. Something else to worry about.

What about the asteroid that is predicted to "near miss" the Earth in
2028(http://www.cnn.com/TECH/space/9803/1...id/index.html).

Tom's got us covered.
--
John H