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On Jan 25, 6:30 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
Ok. It was worth the 18 bucks and not anywhere as bad to figure out and
navigate through as the reviews indicated.

Best thing to do is just watch and listen to the various information
sections before diving into any adjustments.
I didn't bother with all of it, but it was worth doing some of the basic
setups like black level, color (using the blue filter) and sharpness
setting
which is not very well understood by most consumers and was explained well
in the narrative. Most sets have all three set way too high. Even doing
the very basic setups resulted in a nicer, sharper and more natural
picture
on the 50" plasma.

I spent more time testing my system with the audio tests. Turns out I had
it well adjusted, just by ear.
Also found out my hearing drops off at about 16,000 Hz, but Sam Adams
confirmed the Martin Logan's go up over 21,000 Hz based on his cocked head
while staring at the speaker under test. 16,000 Hz isn't too bad for an
old
fart. The subwoofer test sweeps from 15 Hz to 150 Hz and my ears could
just
begin to detect them at 22 Hz. Below that, all that was noticeable was a
slight vibration in the floor.

I'll play with it some more, but it was worth the money.

Eisboch

Got a link? I saw several products, was wondering which you got.


http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-.../dp/B00005PJ70

On Jan 25, 11:39*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Jan 25, 6:30 am, "Eisboch" wrote:





Ok. It was worth the 18 bucks and not anywhere as bad to figure out and
navigate through as the reviews indicated.

Best thing to do is just watch and listen to the various information
sections before diving into any adjustments.
I didn't bother with all of it, but it was worth doing some of the basic
setups like black level, color (using the blue filter) and sharpness
setting
which is not very well understood by most consumers and was explained well
in the narrative. Most sets have all three set way too high. Even doing
the very basic setups resulted in a nicer, sharper and more natural
picture
on the 50" plasma.

I spent more time testing my system with the audio tests. Turns out I had
it well adjusted, just by ear.
Also found out my hearing drops off at about 16,000 Hz, but Sam Adams
confirmed the Martin Logan's go up over 21,000 Hz based on his cocked head
while staring at the speaker under test. 16,000 Hz isn't too bad for an
old
fart. The subwoofer test sweeps from 15 Hz to 150 Hz and my ears could
just
begin to detect them at 22 Hz. Below that, all that was noticeable was a
slight vibration in the floor.

I'll play with it some more, but it was worth the money.

Eisboch

Got a link? I saw several products, was wondering which you got.

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-...t-Componen...- Hide quoted text -

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thanks!

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:57:11 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 25, 11:39*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Jan 25, 6:30 am, "Eisboch" wrote:





Ok. It was worth the 18 bucks and not anywhere as bad to figure out and
navigate through as the reviews indicated.

Best thing to do is just watch and listen to the various information
sections before diving into any adjustments.
I didn't bother with all of it, but it was worth doing some of the basic
setups like black level, color (using the blue filter) and sharpness
setting
which is not very well understood by most consumers and was explained well
in the narrative. Most sets have all three set way too high. Even doing
the very basic setups resulted in a nicer, sharper and more natural
picture
on the 50" plasma.

I spent more time testing my system with the audio tests. Turns out I had
it well adjusted, just by ear.
Also found out my hearing drops off at about 16,000 Hz, but Sam Adams
confirmed the Martin Logan's go up over 21,000 Hz based on his cocked head
while staring at the speaker under test. 16,000 Hz isn't too bad for an
old
fart. The subwoofer test sweeps from 15 Hz to 150 Hz and my ears could
just
begin to detect them at 22 Hz. Below that, all that was noticeable was a
slight vibration in the floor.

I'll play with it some more, but it was worth the money.

Eisboch

Got a link? I saw several products, was wondering which you got.

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-...t-Componen...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

thanks!

Maybe Eisboch will let you rent his cheap.
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***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:54:09 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:52:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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Most people are used to the factory provided torch mode/excessive
sharpness and just realize how really good a toned down picture can
look,
be it analog or digital TVs.


In digital, the sharpness control does absolutely nothing to the program
material or monitor. All it does is to introduce artificial "edge"
artifacts to the display that are not in the original program source,
giving
some people the false illusion that the picture is "sharper". It reminds
me
of using a loudness control or over-emphasizing treble in an audio system.
Increasing sharpness on a digital source program not necessary and can
actually make the picture worse.

What's the process of making the picture better?

Basically adjusting the drives to the NTSC standards that the programming
was originally recorded in.
Black becomes black instead of grey (that used to look like black). Color
and contrast is much more authentic.
And that's without going into the advanced control setups.

The value of the DVD is having the reference test patterns and an
explanation of how to use them, along with the filters they provide to see
the effects of your adjustments.

I got that part, but I was wondering how you use the reference
material - do you play it through a DVD player or what?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I got that part, but I was wondering how you use the reference
material - do you play it through a DVD player or what?


Yes.

Eisboch

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:16:49 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I got that part, but I was wondering how you use the reference
material - do you play it through a DVD player or what?

Yes.

Ok.