On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:09:23 -0000, wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:13:06 -0500, JG2U wrote:


Uh, perjury and lying are not the same thing. Clinton was guilty of
one, but we was not guilty of the other.

You're correct, Einstein. One is lying in a court of law under oath,
the other is just lying.

And you're wrong, Clinton is guilty of both. Seems to be a pattern of
lying with the liberals, especially in this NG.

Cite? Before you tax yourself, in this country, you are innocent until
proven guilty. Clinton was *never* convicted of perjury.

President Clinton was held in contempt of court by judge Susan
D.Webber Wright for willfully failuring to truthfully testify under
oath.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stori...nton.contempt/

His license to practice law was suspended in Arkansas and later by the
United States Supreme Court. He was also fined $90,000 for giving
false testimony.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stori...nton.contempt/

The definition of perjury is:

Perjury: Law. The willful giving of false testimony under oath or
affirmation, before a competent tribunal, upon a point material to a
legal inquiry.

How exactly wasn't he convicted of perjury if his license to practice
law was revoked and he was fined for not telling the truth?

Come on - you are smarter than that.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:09:23 -0000, wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:13:06 -0500, JG2U wrote:


Uh, perjury and lying are not the same thing. Clinton was guilty of
one, but we was not guilty of the other.
You're correct, Einstein. One is lying in a court of law under oath,
the other is just lying.

And you're wrong, Clinton is guilty of both. Seems to be a pattern of
lying with the liberals, especially in this NG.
Cite? Before you tax yourself, in this country, you are innocent until
proven guilty. Clinton was *never* convicted of perjury.

President Clinton was held in contempt of court by judge Susan
D.Webber Wright for willfully failuring to truthfully testify under
oath.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stori...nton.contempt/

His license to practice law was suspended in Arkansas and later by the
United States Supreme Court. He was also fined $90,000 for giving
false testimony.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stori...nton.contempt/

The definition of perjury is:

Perjury: Law. The willful giving of false testimony under oath or
affirmation, before a competent tribunal, upon a point material to a
legal inquiry.

How exactly wasn't he convicted of perjury if his license to practice
law was revoked and he was fined for not telling the truth?

Come on - you are smarter than that.


Yup. Bill Lied About Sex.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:05:42 -0500, hk wrote:

Come on - you are smarter than that.

Yup. Bill Lied About Sex.

It not about WHAT he lied about - it's that he LIED about it.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:05:42 -0500, hk wrote:

Come on - you are smarter than that.
Yup. Bill Lied About Sex.

It not about WHAT he lied about - it's that he LIED about it.


Yeah, well, if it had been something important, it might have mattered.
As it was over sex, it didn't.

Now, lying us into a war - as Bush has done - that matters.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:05:42 -0500, hk wrote:

Come on - you are smarter than that.
Yup. Bill Lied About Sex.

It not about WHAT he lied about - it's that he LIED about it.


Yeah, well, if it had been something important, it might have mattered. As
it was over sex, it didn't.

Now, lying us into a war - as Bush has done - that matters.


Forget the issue for a moment and consider the character of the person. How
do you pick and choose dishonesty?
My opinion is that Bill Clinton is one of the most intellectually dishonest
people I've ever seen with his wife a close second.

Eisboch

Eisboch

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"hk" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:05:42 -0500, hk wrote:

Come on - you are smarter than that.
Yup. Bill Lied About Sex.

It not about WHAT he lied about - it's that he LIED about it.


Yeah, well, if it had been something important, it might have mattered.
As it was over sex, it didn't.

Now, lying us into a war - as Bush has done - that matters.


Forget the issue for a moment and consider the character of the person.
How do you pick and choose dishonesty?
My opinion is that Bill Clinton is one of the most intellectually
dishonest people I've ever seen with his wife a close second.

Eisboch


I should add: Bush can't be intellectually dishonest for obvious reasons.

Eisboch

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:55:37 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Forget the issue for a moment and consider the character of the person.
How do you pick and choose dishonesty?
My opinion is that Bill Clinton is one of the most intellectually
dishonest people I've ever seen with his wife a close second.

I wouldn't dispute that about Bill. He's the consummate politician, and
there is something fundamentally dishonest about that.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:04:26 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:55:37 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Forget the issue for a moment and consider the character of the person.
How do you pick and choose dishonesty?
My opinion is that Bill Clinton is one of the most intellectually
dishonest people I've ever seen with his wife a close second.

I wouldn't dispute that about Bill. He's the consummate politician, and
there is something fundamentally dishonest about that.

It's the nature of politics I think.

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:05:42 -0500, hk wrote:

Come on - you are smarter than that.
Yup. Bill Lied About Sex.
It not about WHAT he lied about - it's that he LIED about it.

Yeah, well, if it had been something important, it might have mattered. As
it was over sex, it didn't.

Now, lying us into a war - as Bush has done - that matters.


Forget the issue for a moment and consider the character of the person. How
do you pick and choose dishonesty?
My opinion is that Bill Clinton is one of the most intellectually dishonest
people I've ever seen with his wife a close second.

Eisboch

Eisboch




Bush is far, far more dishonest, though I will give you this: Bush's
dishonesty is not based on intellectuality.

On Jan 26, 8:48*am, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:05:42 -0500, hk wrote:

Come on - you are smarter than that.
Yup. Bill Lied About Sex.

It not about WHAT he lied about - it's that he LIED about it.

Yeah, well, if it had been something important, it might have mattered.
As it was over sex, it didn't.

Now, lying us into a war - as Bush has done - that matters.

Why do you always find a justification for bad behavior. Anyone paying
attention knows the Clintons were into a lot more than just sex, it
does not matter that witnesses committed Arkansas Suicide and they
were never convicted.