On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:01:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:25:51 -0500, Red Herring
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:13:10 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:28:40 -0500, HK wrote:



They're ok eating in the smaller sizes, and they are easy to catch. For
reasons I don't understand, they seem to fight hard in the colder, New
England salt waters.

Asked my Dad yesterday, and he said he's only seen a couple in all his
Florida fishing years, and never caught one, though he never went
after them either. Agree that the bigger fish aren't as good-tasting,
so I just might not go after them unless I release.
My dad's favorite eating fish is the sand perch. He can still stand
there for an hour filleting them to get a couple pounds of meat, and
he can hardly stand. They do taste good.

I love 'perch fingers'. Fillet's about the size of a half dollar, a quarter
inch thick, breaded, deep fried. Takes about a hundred, but damn they're
good.

Speckled trout - pan fried in a corn meal batter.

MMMMMMM.......

Trout are getting damn hard to find in the bay. Unless you're Harry of
course. But I think they're the best eating of the fish out there. May not
be the same trout you're talking about. Here they're also called weakfish.
The hook will pull out of their mouth very easily.
--
Red Herring

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:44 pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:37 pm, Vic Smith wrote:





On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:
Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.
Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.
Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.
Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida.
He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis.
I really miss him. I ate a lot of catfish. Uncle would bring a
couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the
week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where
he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer
money for the remainder. I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never
a big deal. Can't say i ever had it.
People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all
high-brow about disdaining carp.
OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish
might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc.
I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the
store, and told her not to buy it anymore. It don't taste right.
Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem
acceptable. A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake
Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it
in the garden. He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't
have a garden.
--Vic- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...


Gametime? Cripes, am I missing yet another StuporBowel?

I thought they dragged the Stupor Bowl ot until March.
Since New England is playing on HD, I have a mild interest..... but that's
about it.

On Jan 20, 2:50*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote:





On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message

.. .

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:

And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with
trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc.

I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel
cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also
have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes.

Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for
catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats. Use
worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were
fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our
favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled
over.

I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee -
great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30
pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10
fish that day, not one under 20 pounds.

Good eatin' too.

You folks have carp down there?

We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a
fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the
Carp eat.

A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp
Cook-outs" during the spawn.
These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp
can grow pretty big.
During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and
hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go.
When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork
the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house.
The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of
brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to
embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and
place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers
back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple
hours.
Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow
manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of
the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp."
While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and
doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band.
When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and
everybody sits down to feast.
Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you
can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming.
I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy,
and says,
"Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the
good eatin."

--Vic

Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they
are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little
catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish
was well worth the risk of parking there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you ever find yourself on I-75 in the vicinity of Live Oak, FL not
far from the GA/FL border, you'll see bright colored billboards for
Sheffield's Catfish House. It's a run down looking truckstop with the
best catfish I've ever tasted!

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:19:39 -0500, Red Herring
wrote:

hushpuppies

I have never developed a taste for hushpuppies for some reason.

Oddly, I love cornbread.

On Jan 20, 2:54*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:44*pm, wrote:





On Jan 20, 2:37*pm, Vic Smith wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.

Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida.
He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis.
I really miss him. *I ate a lot of catfish. *Uncle would bring a
couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the
week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where
he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer
money for the remainder. *I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never
a big deal. *Can't say i ever had it.
People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all
high-brow about disdaining carp.
OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish
might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc.
I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the
store, and told her not to buy it anymore. *It don't taste right.
Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem
acceptable. *A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake
Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it
in the garden. *He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't
have a garden.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Mmmmm, I'll be right there!

On Jan 20, 2:57*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:44 pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:37 pm, Vic Smith wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:
Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.
Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.
Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.
Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida.
He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis.
I really miss him. *I ate a lot of catfish. *Uncle would bring a
couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the
week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where
he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer
money for the remainder. *I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never
a big deal. *Can't say i ever had it.
People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all
high-brow about disdaining carp.
OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish
might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc.
I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the
store, and told her not to buy it anymore. *It don't taste right.
Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem
acceptable. *A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake
Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it
in the garden. *He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't
have a garden.
--Vic- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...

Gametime? Cripes, am I missing yet another StuporBowel?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, we all know that just because you don't like football, no one
should ever watch it.

On Jan 20, 3:19*pm, Red Herring
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:50:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:





On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message

.. .

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:

And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with
trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc.

I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel
cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also
have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes.

Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for
catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats.. Use
worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were
fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our
favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled
over.

I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee -
great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30
pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10
fish that day, not one under 20 pounds.

Good eatin' too.

You folks have carp down there?

We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a
fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the
Carp eat.

A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp
Cook-outs" during the spawn.
These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp
can grow pretty big.
During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and
hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go.
When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork
the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house.
The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of
brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to
embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and
place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers
back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple
hours.
Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow
manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of
the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp."
While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and
doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band.
When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and
everybody sits down to feast.
Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you
can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming.
I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy,
and says,
"Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the
good eatin."

--Vic

Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they
are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little
catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish
was well worth the risk of parking there...

Used to be one outside Columbus, GA, too. For about $3.99 you could eat all
the catfish, hushpuppies, cole slaw, and french fries your body could hold..
That was back in 1970, so times may have changed some.
--
Red Herring- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Haven't noticed it the few times I've been in Columbus, I'll ask my
neighbor, he's a native of the area. There is some damned fine bbq
there, though:

http://www.countrysbarbeque.com/

On Jan 20, 3:29*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:50*pm, wrote:





On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote:

On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message

.. .

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:

And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with
trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc.

I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel
cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also
have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes.

Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for
catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats. Use
worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were
fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our
favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled
over.

I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee -
great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30
pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10
fish that day, not one under 20 pounds.

Good eatin' too.

You folks have carp down there?

We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a
fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the
Carp eat.

A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp
Cook-outs" during the spawn.
These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp
can grow pretty big.
During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and
hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go.
When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork
the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house.
The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of
brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to
embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and
place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers
back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple
hours.
Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow
manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of
the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp."
While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and
doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band.
When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and
everybody sits down to feast.
Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you
can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming..
I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy,
and says,
"Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the
good eatin."

--Vic

Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they
are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little
catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish
was well worth the risk of parking there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you ever find yourself on I-75 in the vicinity of Live Oak, FL not
far from the GA/FL border, you'll see bright colored billboards for
Sheffield's Catfish House. It's a run down looking truckstop with the
best catfish I've ever tasted!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Red Herring" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:13:32 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
No boat needed...just walk along the wide shoreline and pick them
up out
of the mud, eh?
ROTF!!!!!!!

Word of the Day:

toady


Main Entry:
Pronunciation:
\?to--de-\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural toad·ies
Etymology:
by shortening & alteration from toadeater
Date:
1826

: one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors
--
Red Herring


Pot, kettle..black!
Have you hooked up with Snivlers yet today?



I wonder when Herring's 93 grandchildren show up if Gramps takes his
teeth out, winds them up, and lets them dance on the tabletop for the
enjoyment of the younger generation? :-)

At least Herring has grandchildren that come to his house.


Well, Bertie, find a woman. Get her real drunk and see if she will
procreate with you. Send the resulting issue away until it reaches the
age of majority, so it isn't poisoned by your selfish mindset. Perhaps
it, too, will procreate and with a monitor present in your household,
allow you to see kids in your house.

Why are you so angry?

Harry, I am married and have two beautiful and intelligent daughters.
Did I say they were in the Gifted and Talented programs? Well they are
and the older one is working on getting into the Magnet High School
program for science and technology or the humanities. They haven't been
poisoned yet, I fear that when they get to college they will catch the
liberal disease which will take a few years to get out of their systems.

My kids love me, they tell me that every day, sometimes two or three
times a day.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:04:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:02:19 -0500, Red Herring
wrote:
Bread it, fry it, eat it. Simple!

That's what I normally eat, but it's always a fair-side cook
doing the frying.
But I'm always catching stuff that fillets out pretty small.
When I start getting the bigger, don't know exactly the best
method for slicing it up for frying.
Don't care too much for fish unless it's fried.

--Vic


It's best to avoid frying if you can. There are many ways to cook fish
without oil or, even worse, crisco.

No way.

--Vic

Asian Steamed fish. good with the ones that are the correct size for 2-4
people. In a Wok or deep skillet, a little oil, ginger and garlic. Heat
oil and sear fish on both sides and then add some wine, and a few green
onions, and cover cook until flaky.