On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:13:32 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...

No boat needed...just walk along the wide shoreline and pick them up out
of the mud, eh?

ROTF!!!!!!!


Word of the Day:

toady


Main Entry:
Pronunciation:
\?to--de-\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural toad·ies
Etymology:
by shortening & alteration from toadeater
Date:
1826

: one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors
--
Red Herring

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:31:23 -0500, HK wrote:



Please. Pound for pound, blues and jacks are among the best fighting
fish in the ocean. If I want the "joy" of fishing on light tackle, I
want to be catching blues and jacks. Stripers do not rank high on the
list of "fighting" fish.

Outside of freshwater rock bass and smallmouths, the pound for pound
fightingest fish I've caught was that little tarpon last summer.
I named him Roberto Duran.

--Vic

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


There's no way for you or I to know that unless we happen to have a
biologist in the boat who's prepared to measure, in whatever way they do
that. All you and I can do is forget the nonsense about light tackle being
"more sporting".


Or maybe have enough technique to get them up in a hurry, even with
light tackle.

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:31:23 -0500, HK wrote:


Please. Pound for pound, blues and jacks are among the best fighting
fish in the ocean. If I want the "joy" of fishing on light tackle, I
want to be catching blues and jacks. Stripers do not rank high on the
list of "fighting" fish.

Outside of freshwater rock bass and smallmouths, the pound for pound
fightingest fish I've caught was that little tarpon last summer.
I named him Roberto Duran.

--Vic

Can't argue with that. Tarpon are fabulous fighters. So are bonefish.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:13:10 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:28:40 -0500, HK wrote:



They're ok eating in the smaller sizes, and they are easy to catch. For
reasons I don't understand, they seem to fight hard in the colder, New
England salt waters.

Asked my Dad yesterday, and he said he's only seen a couple in all his
Florida fishing years, and never caught one, though he never went
after them either. Agree that the bigger fish aren't as good-tasting,
so I just might not go after them unless I release.
My dad's favorite eating fish is the sand perch. He can still stand
there for an hour filleting them to get a couple pounds of meat, and
he can hardly stand. They do taste good.

Sand perch?

Those are bait fish if I remember. Kinda smallish?

On Jan 20, 11:13*am, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:31 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 20, 9:59 am, HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
.. .
It seems like a majority of the striper fishermen in Chesapeake Bay
use
heavy tackle to try to catch these fish. In trolling season, they
slow
troll huge and heavy umbrella rigs, or single but monster sized
hard
baits, or they'll further pollute the Bay by "chumming." It isn't
unusual
to see 20 to 40 boats trolling the same small area, in hopes I
guess, of
snagging a fish.
All this for fish that, relative to their size, don't fight that
hard, at
least not around here. But typically they are the biggest fish in
most of
the Bay, so lots of guys target them. The sad thing is that the
larger
fish just don't taste very good.
Sometimes you'll see a pod of small, breaking fish, and if you have
some
light tackle handle, you can toss a bait into the pod and catch a
bluefish
or a striper.
If you want to catch a variety of decent-sized "fighting" fish
around
here, you should fish the mouth of the Bay, near the Chesapeake Bay
Bridge-Tunner around Norfolk-Virginia Beach, or the nearshore or
offshore
wrecks down there.
Good Lord...sounds like a light commercial operation.
I'm not that interested in fishing, but did enjoy taking the boys
out with a
rod & reel when they were young. *Oddly enough, my #2 son seems to
enjoy
fishing with his buddies on occasion. He's already eying my Yukon
but I
insisted he take the course & get his 'Operator' card first.
Plus...some first hand familiarization on operating the boat.
Might be easier just to send him down to Capt Tom SW for a bootcamp
first.
Yeah, that'll do it...bootcamp with SW Tom. The mounties will arrest
him
at the border upon his return.
As for the slow trolling with heavy tackle, well, there are plenty of
guys down here who do it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's got to be almost as boring as flounder fishing...
Especially flounder fishing in Lake Lanier.
Harry,
Actually we don't have flounder in Lake Lanier, but we do have some very
hard fighting stripers.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with
trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc.

No boat needed...just walk along the wide shoreline and pick them up out
of the mud, eh?

ROTF!!!!!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nice reach around Jim, I'll bet Harry enjoyed it! As usual, Harry
doesn't have a ****ing clue. There's plenty of water in Lanier. I'll
bet I fish more miles of shoreline than he does.

wrote:
On Jan 20, 11:13 am, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...





wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:31 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 20, 9:59 am, HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
It seems like a majority of the striper fishermen in Chesapeake Bay
use
heavy tackle to try to catch these fish. In trolling season, they
slow
troll huge and heavy umbrella rigs, or single but monster sized
hard
baits, or they'll further pollute the Bay by "chumming." It isn't
unusual
to see 20 to 40 boats trolling the same small area, in hopes I
guess, of
snagging a fish.
All this for fish that, relative to their size, don't fight that
hard, at
least not around here. But typically they are the biggest fish in
most of
the Bay, so lots of guys target them. The sad thing is that the
larger
fish just don't taste very good.
Sometimes you'll see a pod of small, breaking fish, and if you have
some
light tackle handle, you can toss a bait into the pod and catch a
bluefish
or a striper.
If you want to catch a variety of decent-sized "fighting" fish
around
here, you should fish the mouth of the Bay, near the Chesapeake Bay
Bridge-Tunner around Norfolk-Virginia Beach, or the nearshore or
offshore
wrecks down there.
Good Lord...sounds like a light commercial operation.
I'm not that interested in fishing, but did enjoy taking the boys
out with a
rod & reel when they were young. Oddly enough, my #2 son seems to
enjoy
fishing with his buddies on occasion. He's already eying my Yukon
but I
insisted he take the course & get his 'Operator' card first.
Plus...some first hand familiarization on operating the boat.
Might be easier just to send him down to Capt Tom SW for a bootcamp
first.
Yeah, that'll do it...bootcamp with SW Tom. The mounties will arrest
him
at the border upon his return.
As for the slow trolling with heavy tackle, well, there are plenty of
guys down here who do it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's got to be almost as boring as flounder fishing...
Especially flounder fishing in Lake Lanier.
Harry,
Actually we don't have flounder in Lake Lanier, but we do have some very
hard fighting stripers.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with
trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc.
No boat needed...just walk along the wide shoreline and pick them up out
of the mud, eh?
ROTF!!!!!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nice reach around Jim, I'll bet Harry enjoyed it! As usual, Harry
doesn't have a ****ing clue. There's plenty of water in Lanier. I'll
bet I fish more miles of shoreline than he does.


Fishing from an ATV doesn't count.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:13:10 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:28:40 -0500, HK wrote:


They're ok eating in the smaller sizes, and they are easy to catch. For
reasons I don't understand, they seem to fight hard in the colder, New
England salt waters.
Asked my Dad yesterday, and he said he's only seen a couple in all his
Florida fishing years, and never caught one, though he never went
after them either. Agree that the bigger fish aren't as good-tasting,
so I just might not go after them unless I release.
My dad's favorite eating fish is the sand perch. He can still stand
there for an hour filleting them to get a couple pounds of meat, and
he can hardly stand. They do taste good.

Sand perch?

Those are bait fish if I remember. Kinda smallish?

About a pound or two, typically. Tasty.

On Jan 20, 11:23*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:
And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with
trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc.

I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel
cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also
have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes.


I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee -
great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30
pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10
fish that day, not one under 20 pounds.

Good eatin' too.

You folks have carp down there?

Yes, we have carp but not as prolific as some places. I either by my
blood bait or sometimes, if I know ahead of time that I'll be
catfishing, I'll make some.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:04:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:02:19 -0500, Red Herring
wrote:
Bread it, fry it, eat it. Simple!

That's what I normally eat, but it's always a fair-side cook
doing the frying.
But I'm always catching stuff that fillets out pretty small.
When I start getting the bigger, don't know exactly the best
method for slicing it up for frying.
Don't care too much for fish unless it's fried.

--Vic


It's best to avoid frying if you can. There are many ways to cook fish
without oil or, even worse, crisco.

No way.

--Vic