have lost touch with America, read this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html

Unbelievable.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
have lost touch with America, read this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html

Unbelievable.

The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture,
secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales,
no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously
wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health
insurance, incredible national debt.

You're worried about the food in the cafeteria?

HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
have lost touch with America, read this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html

Unbelievable.

The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture,
secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales,
no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously
wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health
insurance, incredible national debt.

And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam.

You're worried about the food in the cafeteria?

The question is why is Nancey Pelosi worried about the food in the
cafeteria? I guess that is the only thing she can get accomplished as
Speaker of the House.

"BAR" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
have lost touch with America, read this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html

Unbelievable.

The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture,
secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales,
no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously
wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health
insurance, incredible national debt.

And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam.


Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something
else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror".
That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have
prevented an attack on U.S. soil.

On Jan 16, 9:09*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...

HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
have lost touch with America, read this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html

Unbelievable.

The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture,
secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales,
no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously
wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health
insurance, incredible national debt.

And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam.

Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something
else.

"Every observer"?? You are dilusional..

What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror".
That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have
prevented an attack on U.S. soil.

And now Joe, if you can focus long enough to answer a question. Tell
us what it is then that has led to no attacks? I won't hold my breath.

wrote in message
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On Jan 16, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

...

HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
have lost touch with America, read this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html

Unbelievable.

The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture,
secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales,
no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously
wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health
insurance, incredible national debt.

And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam.

Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to
something
else.

"Every observer"?? You are dilusional..
=====================

Yes. Every observer. The only people who don't attribute it to something are
the ones who aren't observing.

And, what is "dilusional"?



What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror".
That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have
prevented an attack on U.S. soil.

And now Joe, if you can focus long enough to answer a question. Tell
us what it is then that has led to no attacks? I won't hold my breath.

=======================

I didn't ask you. Let's wait and see what Bertie thinks. He's so smart. He
must have some specific ideas about why there have been no attacks.

wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
have lost touch with America, read this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html

Unbelievable.

The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture,
secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales,
no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously
wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health
insurance, incredible national debt.

And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam.


Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to
something
else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror".
That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have
prevented an attack on U.S. soil.


The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for
a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or
even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated
terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that
is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is
unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry
specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens
all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists.



You're absolutely right. But, Bert's answer to my question is still a
crucial missing piece in this discussion.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
have lost touch with America, read this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html

Unbelievable.
The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture,
secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales,
no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously
wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health
insurance, incredible national debt.
And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam.

Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to
something
else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror".
That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have
prevented an attack on U.S. soil.

The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for
a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or
even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated
terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that
is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is
unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry
specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens
all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists.



You're absolutely right. But, Bert's answer to my question is still a
crucial missing piece in this discussion.




You expect coherent thought from "I've got mine, so screw you" Bert? The
guy is a cipher, incapable of spewing out anything but the effluent on
reich-wing radio, "Faux" new, or the NY Post.

But I do admire your patience.

wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
have lost touch with America, read this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html

Unbelievable.
The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture,
secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales,
no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously
wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health
insurance, incredible national debt.
And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam.

Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to something
else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war on terror".
That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that you feel have
prevented an attack on U.S. soil.


The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for
a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or
even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated
terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that
is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is
unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry
specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens
all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists.

The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can
rise and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples
of those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't
fight the war on terrorism with paper.

"BAR" wrote in message
news
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:09:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
have lost touch with America, read this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7888.html

Unbelievable.
The Bush legacy includes 9-11, the Katrina aftermath, torture,
secret energy policies, Halliburton, signing statements, Gonzales,
no WMDs, Blackwater, 4,000 US troops dead, tens of thousands seriously
wounded or ill, recession, housing meltdown, 40 million without health
insurance, incredible national debt.
And not one successful attack on the US by Followers of Islam.

Every observer of recent history attributes the lack of attacks to
something else. What do YOU attribute it to? Please don't say "the war
on terror". That's too general. Please offer 2-3 specific actions that
you feel have prevented an attack on U.S. soil.

The war on terror is a global war. Not having an attack on US soil for
a period of time is pretty much meaningless. You haven't eliminated or
even subtantially reduced risk to US soil until you have eliminated
terrorism worldwide. If you claim that's not the mission, or that that
is not possible, then you are stating that the war on terror is
unwinnable. If you want to be picky, and only think you need to worry
specifically about Americans, their are thousands of American citizens
all over the world who are also at risk from terrorists.

The war on terrorism is not winnable. Terrorism by its own nature can rise
and fall as the clouds go by. What you have to do is make examples of
those who become terrorists. Summary executions will help. You can't fight
the war on terrorism with paper.




OK. But, you said the Bush legacy includes not one successful attack on the
US by followers of Islam.

This positive thing didn't happen just because Bush is the president. You
need to connect it with physical measures taken to prevent the attacks. Can
you name 2-3 measures which you believe prevented us from being attacked?