"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:42:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I have to leave to move some Climate Change off the driveways.

Along with the extreme drought, we haven't had a *winter* in quite a
few years.

Only one morning, thus far, with any frost at all.

We spent Xmas and New Years in shorts.

I remember when we actually had *four* seasons......



True dat,

In the 60's, 70's. You didn't get through the winter
without several nice snowfalls here.

Meanwhile,

We went down for the weekend. I had to change into
shorts Saturday afternoon to stop sweating. Lucky
I had a pair stashed away in a drawer at the beach house.
We drove to O.I to have dinner with my folks Saturday
eve. My Dad was sitting out on the front porch to
greet us still with *his* shorts on from working in
the yard...and a cold beer.

Did you read that article in Sunday's paper about Falls Lake?
I didn't realize they screwed up on the depth when it was built.


db

On Jan 14, 12:38*pm, wrote:
On Jan 14, 11:14*am, wrote:





On Jan 14, 11:08*am, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Jan 14, 10:55*am, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:32:51 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Jan 14, 8:42*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
I have to leave to move some Climate Change off the driveways.

So far this year our snow average has been surpassed by 5 inches. The
old average was 17, so far we have had 22. Mass has Global Taxing to
the tune of 10 inches above normal average... * * *Just the facts, as
Al Gore doesn't see em'

Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

But fraud is still fraud..

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I do not trust the numbers, collections systems, and reporting which
supports man made Global Taxing...

Oh, I see. So you don't trust numbers or other data, but you DO trust
what your fellow republicans are telling you, in that global warming
isn't real?

No, if you would get informed you would see that there are as many
scientists against the theories as for, I happen to trust NOAA and
NASA scientists more than UN funded scientists... Nothing to do with
any republican or democratic pundit.


*I feel that like the Y2K hoax, it

is being run on hype, designed to stimulate commerce.. *BTW, the
result of the Y2K hoax was everyone buying a new computer at once, and
no one needing one for a few years, leading to a real problem in the
market... But the guys who had stock in computer companies leading up
to the hoax are still rolling in money...- Hide quoted text -

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Sorry, apples and oranges......- Hide quoted text -

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On Jan 14, 4:19*pm, "D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote:
wrote in ...

On Jan 14, 11:08 am, wrote:





On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Jan 14, 10:55 am, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:32:51 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Jan 14, 8:42 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
I have to leave to move some Climate Change off the driveways.

So far this year our snow average has been surpassed by 5 inches. The
old average was 17, so far we have had 22. Mass has Global Taxing to
the tune of 10 inches above normal average... Just the facts, as
Al Gore doesn't see em'

Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

But fraud is still fraud..

???- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do not trust the numbers, collections systems, and reporting which
supports man made Global Taxing... I feel that like the Y2K hoax, it
is being run on hype, designed to stimulate commerce.. *BTW, the
result of the Y2K hoax was everyone buying a new computer at once, and
no one needing one for a few years, leading to a real problem in the
market... But the guys who had stock in computer companies leading up
to the hoax are still rolling in money...

The software *fix* for our company's Y2K problem
was in excess of $200K. *We switched over to a competitor's
system just before rollover.

db- Hide quoted text -

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Well, I was working as a CNE for a public traded corp at the time and
we had issues with only one program, which needed to be upgraded at
each workstation. Three facilities, almost a week, but we did not need
to buy new computers. How did your old equipment fair after the Hoax,
or did you just toss them out and never really find out? I am not
saying some business needed patches, but Dell, Compaq, etc had a blast
making everyone think they needed a computer all at once. No surprise
a year and a half later the market for processors tanked...

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:28:36 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:41:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:55:02 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:32:51 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 14, 8:42*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
I have to leave to move some Climate Change off the driveways.

So far this year our snow average has been surpassed by 5 inches. The
old average was 17, so far we have had 22. Mass has Global Taxing to
the tune of 10 inches above normal average... Just the facts, as
Al Gore doesn't see em'

Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

Say again?

Climate: The composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a
region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation,
sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a
series of years.

again: Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

Do you look at your driveway to determine the level of traffic around the earth?
If someone tells you that you driveway does not reflect what is going on over
the whole earth, do you respond that there's no traffic in any of the driveways
in your neigborhood?


Salty, traffic and weather are two different things. many people confuse
them.

:)
--
John H

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:28:36 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:41:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:55:02 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:32:51 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 14, 8:42*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
I have to leave to move some Climate Change off the driveways.

So far this year our snow average has been surpassed by 5 inches. The
old average was 17, so far we have had 22. Mass has Global Taxing to
the tune of 10 inches above normal average... Just the facts, as
Al Gore doesn't see em'

Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

Say again?

Climate: The composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a
region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation,
sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a
series of years.

again: Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

Do you look at your driveway to determine the level of traffic around the earth?
If someone tells you that you driveway does not reflect what is going on over
the whole earth, do you respond that there's no traffic in any of the driveways
in your neigborhood?

The analogy doesn't make sense.

The only difference between weather and climate is time.

They are one and the same.

The very definition of Climate Change is change in the long-term
average of daily weather.

Can't have one without the other.

On Jan 15, 6:46*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:28:36 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:41:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:55:02 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:32:51 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 14, 8:42*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
I have to leave to move some Climate Change off the driveways.

So far this year our snow average has been surpassed by 5 inches. The
old average was 17, so far we have had 22. Mass has Global Taxing to
the tune of 10 inches above normal average... * * *Just the facts, as
Al Gore doesn't see em'

Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

Say again?

Climate: The composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a
region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation,
sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a
series of years.

again: Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

Do you look at your driveway to determine the level of traffic around the earth?
If someone tells you that you driveway does not reflect what is going on over
the whole earth, do you respond that there's no traffic in any of the driveways
in your neigborhood?

The analogy doesn't make sense.

The only difference between weather and climate is time.

They are one and the same.

The very definition of Climate Change is change in the long-term
average of daily weather.

Can't have one without the other.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Really? You can't have local weather change day to day without overall
climate change???

On Jan 14, 5:34*pm, wrote:
On Jan 14, 12:38*pm, wrote:





On Jan 14, 11:14*am, wrote:

On Jan 14, 11:08*am, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:01:02 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Jan 14, 10:55*am, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:32:51 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Jan 14, 8:42*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
I have to leave to move some Climate Change off the driveways.

So far this year our snow average has been surpassed by 5 inches.. The
old average was 17, so far we have had 22. Mass has Global Taxing to
the tune of 10 inches above normal average... * * *Just the facts, as
Al Gore doesn't see em'

Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

But fraud is still fraud..

???- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do not trust the numbers, collections systems, and reporting which
supports man made Global Taxing...

Oh, I see. So you don't trust numbers or other data, but you DO trust
what your fellow republicans are telling you, in that global warming
isn't real?

No, if you would get informed you would see that there are as many
scientists against the theories as for, I happen to trust NOAA and
NASA scientists more than UN funded scientists... Nothing to do with
any republican or democratic pundit.


Why would you trust NASA and NOAA scientists more than UN funded
scientists? You don't think they can be corrupted by funding? Also,
you do realize that both NASA and NOAA agree that global warming is
real, don't you? And they also agree that they aren't sure whether man
is causing it or not. They never said man isn't causing it, as you
suggest. Also, there is a NOAA study on Paleoclimatology that shows
very clearly that in the past, when there was warming there was also a
big increase in greenhouse gases that occured naturally via volcanoes,
etc. So, we have evidence that green house gases cause global warming.
We also know that man is now spewing more and more billions of pounds
of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere every day. How would you
conclude that this isn't having an affect?

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:26:12 GMT, wrote:

You need a better dictionary. No competent climatologist wrote that
definition.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/no...e_weather.html

You go tell them their wrong.

I'll wait.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:59:57 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 15, 6:46*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:28:36 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:41:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:55:02 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:32:51 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 14, 8:42*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
I have to leave to move some Climate Change off the driveways.

So far this year our snow average has been surpassed by 5 inches. The
old average was 17, so far we have had 22. Mass has Global Taxing to
the tune of 10 inches above normal average... * * *Just the facts, as
Al Gore doesn't see em'

Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

Say again?

Climate: The composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a
region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation,
sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a
series of years.

again: Weather and climate are two different things. many people confuse
them.

Do you look at your driveway to determine the level of traffic around the earth?
If someone tells you that you driveway does not reflect what is going on over
the whole earth, do you respond that there's no traffic in any of the driveways
in your neigborhood?

The analogy doesn't make sense.

The only difference between weather and climate is time.

They are one and the same.

The very definition of Climate Change is change in the long-term
average of daily weather.

Can't have one without the other.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Really? You can't have local weather change day to day without overall
climate change???

Didn't say that.

I said that climate and weather are one and the same. Climate is
weather averaged over time.

It's a pretty simple concept.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:30:01 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:11:59 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:26:12 GMT, wrote:

You need a better dictionary. No competent climatologist wrote that
definition.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/no...e_weather.html

You go tell them their wrong.

I'll wait.

Did you read (and fully grasp) the whole of what they say at the link
you posted?

What ever dude.

Later.