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"In a fierce counterattack, Ms. Clinton has tried to prick the
ballooning support for Mr. Obama, conceding he is "a truly inspirational speaker" but adding he has "not done the kind of spade work" to back up the promises." Spade work? Tsk. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../International Even funnier - Andrew "Bozo" Cuomo: ”It’s not a TV crazed race. Frankly you can’t buy your way into it,” Cuomo said. “You can’t shuck and jive at a press conference,” he added." Shuck and jive? http://blogs.timesunion.com/capitol/?p=6127 My, these Democrats are true racists aren't they? |
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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:22:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:39:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:10:13 GMT, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon wrote: "In a fierce counterattack, Ms. Clinton has tried to prick the ballooning support for Mr. Obama, conceding he is "a truly inspirational speaker" but adding he has "not done the kind of spade work" to back up the promises." Spade work? I still say the "N" word will be out there soon if Obama keeps beating her. Nah - but if I were Obama, I'd make a wooden stake and buy a truckload of garlic. Also if I were Obama, I'd check the bus brakes every time I got on, not eat anything from sources I couldn't vouch for, avoid balconies and buy a bomb sniffing dog. I would also watch the movie "The Omen" for other ways that I might come to grief. That's what I would do if I were Obama. :) Well, he's the one comparing himself to Martin Luther King. When I heard that, your ideas were the first thing that hit my mind. The Secret Service must have had a fit when he did that. Obama is one of the few candidates I have seen in awhile who actually appears to be intelligent and with definite charisma. I did not read the speech you are talking about, but from what I have seen, not matter what happens during this election, he will be around for awhile. He seems to me to be a politician running for the presidency, who happens to be black, instead of a black politician running for the presidency. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:28:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:22:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:39:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:10:13 GMT, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon wrote: "In a fierce counterattack, Ms. Clinton has tried to prick the ballooning support for Mr. Obama, conceding he is "a truly inspirational speaker" but adding he has "not done the kind of spade work" to back up the promises." Spade work? I still say the "N" word will be out there soon if Obama keeps beating her. Nah - but if I were Obama, I'd make a wooden stake and buy a truckload of garlic. Also if I were Obama, I'd check the bus brakes every time I got on, not eat anything from sources I couldn't vouch for, avoid balconies and buy a bomb sniffing dog. I would also watch the movie "The Omen" for other ways that I might come to grief. That's what I would do if I were Obama. :) Well, he's the one comparing himself to Martin Luther King. When I heard that, your ideas were the first thing that hit my mind. The Secret Service must have had a fit when he did that. Obama is one of the few candidates I have seen in awhile who actually appears to be intelligent and with definite charisma. I did not read the speech you are talking about, but from what I have seen, not matter what happens during this election, he will be around for awhile. He seems to me to be a politician running for the presidency, who happens to be black, instead of a black politician running for the presidency. Agreed. He's got some weird ideas, but he seems, to me, to be much more trustworthy than Hillary. -- John H |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:39:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:10:13 GMT, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon wrote: "In a fierce counterattack, Ms. Clinton has tried to prick the ballooning support for Mr. Obama, conceding he is "a truly inspirational speaker" but adding he has "not done the kind of spade work" to back up the promises." Spade work? I still say the "N" word will be out there soon if Obama keeps beating her. Nah - but if I were Obama, I'd make a wooden stake and buy a truckload of garlic. Also if I were Obama, I'd check the bus brakes every time I got on, not eat anything from sources I couldn't vouch for, avoid balconies and buy a bomb sniffing dog. I would also watch the movie "The Omen" for other ways that I might come to grief. That's what I would do if I were Obama. :) I find it truly unfortunate and a sad commentary on our society that he'd have to be concerned with that scenario. Not that I don't agree with you to a degree, but haven't we evolved any? I had noticed and then thought during his very first election speech, "hey, this guy is different than the rest". The color of his skin means nothing to his qualifications, but I'm thinking the majority of the USA is not quite ready for him. I am more concerned with what I had been reading relating to his Muslim background than the color of his skin. |
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DownTime wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:39:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:10:13 GMT, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon wrote: "In a fierce counterattack, Ms. Clinton has tried to prick the ballooning support for Mr. Obama, conceding he is "a truly inspirational speaker" but adding he has "not done the kind of spade work" to back up the promises." Spade work? I still say the "N" word will be out there soon if Obama keeps beating her. Nah - but if I were Obama, I'd make a wooden stake and buy a truckload of garlic. Also if I were Obama, I'd check the bus brakes every time I got on, not eat anything from sources I couldn't vouch for, avoid balconies and buy a bomb sniffing dog. I would also watch the movie "The Omen" for other ways that I might come to grief. That's what I would do if I were Obama. :) I find it truly unfortunate and a sad commentary on our society that he'd have to be concerned with that scenario. Not that I don't agree with you to a degree, but haven't we evolved any? I had noticed and then thought during his very first election speech, "hey, this guy is different than the rest". The color of his skin means nothing to his qualifications, but I'm thinking the majority of the USA is not quite ready for him. I am more concerned with what I had been reading relating to his Muslim background than the color of his skin. Obama's rather loose "connection" to his Muslim background is a hell of a lot less scary than Huckleberry's connections to fundie Christianity. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:53:16 -0500, DownTime
wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:39:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:10:13 GMT, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon wrote: "In a fierce counterattack, Ms. Clinton has tried to prick the ballooning support for Mr. Obama, conceding he is "a truly inspirational speaker" but adding he has "not done the kind of spade work" to back up the promises." Spade work? I still say the "N" word will be out there soon if Obama keeps beating her. Nah - but if I were Obama, I'd make a wooden stake and buy a truckload of garlic. Also if I were Obama, I'd check the bus brakes every time I got on, not eat anything from sources I couldn't vouch for, avoid balconies and buy a bomb sniffing dog. I would also watch the movie "The Omen" for other ways that I might come to grief. That's what I would do if I were Obama. :) I find it truly unfortunate and a sad commentary on our society that he'd have to be concerned with that scenario. Not that I don't agree with you to a degree, but haven't we evolved any? I was joking - I don't actually think that. I do understand your larger point though and you're right. I had noticed and then thought during his very first election speech, "hey, this guy is different than the rest". The color of his skin means nothing to his qualifications, but I'm thinking the majority of the USA is not quite ready for him. I am more concerned with what I had been reading relating to his Muslim background than the color of his skin. I'm concerned about the whole Democratic field actually. The only one who had what I would consider "experience" was Bill Richardson and now that he's out, there really isn't anybody I could vote for. I'm very afraid of a class warfare scenario if either Hillary or Obama is selected for the national campaign. On the other hand, there's only one Republican that I consider Presidential and he doens't have a prayer unfortunetely - well maybe a prayer, but it doesn't seem likely. |
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HK wrote:
DownTime wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:39:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:10:13 GMT, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon wrote: "In a fierce counterattack, Ms. Clinton has tried to prick the ballooning support for Mr. Obama, conceding he is "a truly inspirational speaker" but adding he has "not done the kind of spade work" to back up the promises." Spade work? I still say the "N" word will be out there soon if Obama keeps beating her. Nah - but if I were Obama, I'd make a wooden stake and buy a truckload of garlic. Also if I were Obama, I'd check the bus brakes every time I got on, not eat anything from sources I couldn't vouch for, avoid balconies and buy a bomb sniffing dog. I would also watch the movie "The Omen" for other ways that I might come to grief. That's what I would do if I were Obama. :) I find it truly unfortunate and a sad commentary on our society that he'd have to be concerned with that scenario. Not that I don't agree with you to a degree, but haven't we evolved any? I had noticed and then thought during his very first election speech, "hey, this guy is different than the rest". The color of his skin means nothing to his qualifications, but I'm thinking the majority of the USA is not quite ready for him. I am more concerned with what I had been reading relating to his Muslim background than the color of his skin. Obama's rather loose "connection" to his Muslim background is a hell of a lot less scary than Huckleberry's connections to fundie Christianity. Why? |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:28:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:22:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:39:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:10:13 GMT, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon wrote: "In a fierce counterattack, Ms. Clinton has tried to prick the ballooning support for Mr. Obama, conceding he is "a truly inspirational speaker" but adding he has "not done the kind of spade work" to back up the promises." Spade work? I still say the "N" word will be out there soon if Obama keeps beating her. Nah - but if I were Obama, I'd make a wooden stake and buy a truckload of garlic. Also if I were Obama, I'd check the bus brakes every time I got on, not eat anything from sources I couldn't vouch for, avoid balconies and buy a bomb sniffing dog. I would also watch the movie "The Omen" for other ways that I might come to grief. That's what I would do if I were Obama. :) Well, he's the one comparing himself to Martin Luther King. When I heard that, your ideas were the first thing that hit my mind. The Secret Service must have had a fit when he did that. Obama is one of the few candidates I have seen in awhile who actually appears to be intelligent and with definite charisma. I did not read the speech you are talking about, but from what I have seen, not matter what happens during this election, he will be around for awhile. He seems to me to be a politician running for the presidency, who happens to be black, instead of a black politician running for the presidency. Speaking strictly from the perspective of an observer, he hasn't got a prayer if he gets the nomination. This is based on comments of my Democrat friends. Oddly, neither does Hillary. Obama may look new, but he has nothing to back it up. Oddly, neither does Hillary - you would have thought that she would have spent more time developing cogent and complete arguments for her proposals and policies, but she spent the time contemplating how she was going to run and the sense that she was the inevitable choice. Both of them have squandered their opportunities. I also think the American electorate is sick and tired of politics and they are going to be even more sick and tired by the time November comes around - it's just going to be noise in the background. Which does not make me hopeful that we're going to make a wise choice for President if this is the best we can do on either side. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:53:16 -0500, DownTime
wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:39:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:10:13 GMT, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon wrote: "In a fierce counterattack, Ms. Clinton has tried to prick the ballooning support for Mr. Obama, conceding he is "a truly inspirational speaker" but adding he has "not done the kind of spade work" to back up the promises." Spade work? I still say the "N" word will be out there soon if Obama keeps beating her. Nah - but if I were Obama, I'd make a wooden stake and buy a truckload of garlic. Also if I were Obama, I'd check the bus brakes every time I got on, not eat anything from sources I couldn't vouch for, avoid balconies and buy a bomb sniffing dog. I would also watch the movie "The Omen" for other ways that I might come to grief. That's what I would do if I were Obama. :) I find it truly unfortunate and a sad commentary on our society that he'd have to be concerned with that scenario. Not that I don't agree with you to a degree, but haven't we evolved any? I think *we* have evolved, but all it takes is one. I had noticed and then thought during his very first election speech, "hey, this guy is different than the rest". The color of his skin means nothing to his qualifications, but I'm thinking the majority of the USA is not quite ready for him. I am more concerned with what I had been reading relating to his Muslim background than the color of his skin. I wonder if the biggest threat to Obama might not be a fanatical Muslim. -- John H |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Both of them have squandered their opportunities. I also think the American electorate is sick and tired of politics and they are going to be even more sick and tired by the time November comes around - it's just going to be noise in the background. Which does not make me hopeful that we're going to make a wise choice for President if this is the best we can do on either side. If you watch the Daily Show even Jon Stewart, a staunch liberal, is making fun of the Democratic rhetoric and new buzz word "Change". |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Obama may look new, but he has nothing to back it up. Oddly, neither does Hillary - you would have thought that she would have spent more time developing cogent and complete arguments for her proposals and policies, but she spent the time contemplating how she was going to run and the sense that she was the inevitable choice. Both of them have squandered their opportunities. I also think the American electorate is sick and tired of politics and they are going to be even more sick and tired by the time November comes around - it's just going to be noise in the background. Which does not make me hopeful that we're going to make a wise choice for President if this is the best we can do on either side. Unfortunately, some of the better choices on both sides have already caved in and withdrawn. Eisboch |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:53:16 -0500, DownTime wrote: I'm concerned about the whole Democratic field actually. The only one who had what I would consider "experience" was Bill Richardson and now that he's out, there really isn't anybody I could vote for. I'm very afraid of a class warfare scenario if either Hillary or Obama is selected for the national campaign. On the other hand, there's only one Republican that I consider Presidential and he doens't have a prayer unfortunetely - well maybe a prayer, but it doesn't seem likely. The saddest part of this entire political process is I suspect most voters tend to look at the candidates from the angle of "Who do I despise the least?" When it comes down to the choices, it's more about the lesser of two evils. I've thought many times that the most qualified people for the position want NOTHING to do with the job. I do not fully believe either side in its entirety, but each has some valid points and action plans. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Obama may look new, but he has nothing to back it up. Oddly, neither does Hillary - you would have thought that she would have spent more time developing cogent and complete arguments for her proposals and policies, but she spent the time contemplating how she was going to run and the sense that she was the inevitable choice. Both of them have squandered their opportunities. I also think the American electorate is sick and tired of politics and they are going to be even more sick and tired by the time November comes around - it's just going to be noise in the background. Which does not make me hopeful that we're going to make a wise choice for President if this is the best we can do on either side. Unfortunately, some of the better choices on both sides have already caved in and withdrawn. Eisboch All political candidates are just people and therefore they all have flaws. I don't care whether Hillary or Obama wins. Either will do a much better job than has been done the last seven years. Bush is a disaster. I can see why Republicans are so unhappy with their choices. There's just nothing there. It's hard to imagine GOP voters being so enthusiastic about any of them that they'll show up in great numbers and attract the number of Indys it will take to win. On the Democratic side, I think the tide is flowing in Obama's direction, and I think the national tide is flowing that way, too. |
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DownTime wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:53:16 -0500, DownTime wrote: I'm concerned about the whole Democratic field actually. The only one who had what I would consider "experience" was Bill Richardson and now that he's out, there really isn't anybody I could vote for. I'm very afraid of a class warfare scenario if either Hillary or Obama is selected for the national campaign. On the other hand, there's only one Republican that I consider Presidential and he doens't have a prayer unfortunetely - well maybe a prayer, but it doesn't seem likely. The saddest part of this entire political process is I suspect most voters tend to look at the candidates from the angle of "Who do I despise the least?" When it comes down to the choices, it's more about the lesser of two evils. I've thought many times that the most qualified people for the position want NOTHING to do with the job. I do not fully believe either side in its entirety, but each has some valid points and action plans. I'm not touting him, but I haven't run across any rational adults who despise Barack Obama. I don't associate with black-hating whites, so I don't know what their thoughts are and don't care, either. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... I wonder if the biggest threat to Obama might not be a fanatical Muslim. -- John H You've been watching too many '24' reruns. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:47:35 -0500, DownTime
wrote: I've thought many times that the most qualified people for the position want NOTHING to do with the job. Heh - that's probably the truest statement this morning. :) |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:56:11 -0500, HK wrote:
I'm not touting him, but I haven't run across any rational adults who despise Barack Obama. I don't associate with black-hating whites, so I don't know what their thoughts are and don't care, either. You haven't been talking to rank and file Democrats either I suspect. It has nothing to do with race - it has everything to do substance and a lot of the Union types along with the average Democrats that I know don't see anything from either of the two front runners that will cause them to not look elsewhere. This could be the year for a solid third party candidate with money to make a real splash nationally. Unfortunately, that's Bloomberg and that's not a great choice either. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:53:43 -0500, HK wrote:
On the Democratic side, I think the tide is flowing in Obama's direction, and I think the national tide is flowing that way, too. Don't hold your breath on that one. |
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... I wonder if the biggest threat to Obama might not be a fanatical Muslim. -- John H You've been watching too many '24' reruns. What a trashy program that is. Blech. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:56:11 -0500, HK wrote: I'm not touting him, but I haven't run across any rational adults who despise Barack Obama. I don't associate with black-hating whites, so I don't know what their thoughts are and don't care, either. You haven't been talking to rank and file Democrats either I suspect. It has nothing to do with race - it has everything to do substance and a lot of the Union types along with the average Democrats that I know don't see anything from either of the two front runners that will cause them to not look elsewhere. This could be the year for a solid third party candidate with money to make a real splash nationally. Unfortunately, that's Bloomberg and that's not a great choice either. Well, if it isn't "race," why would the people you are discussing "despise" Barack Obama? They don't even know him or at this point, even very much about him. I talk to "rank and file" Democrats several times a week, mostly "blue collar" rank and file Democrats. Factory workers, construction workers, janitors, you know, actual working people. Either Hillary or Obama will be the next president. If Hillary gets the nod, she'd be smart to choose Obama as her running mate, or if not Obama, Richardson. Bush has poisoned the well for Republicans this year. Combine that with the lack of quality in the GOP frontrunners and you have an electoral disaster on your hands. A well-deserved one. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:14:12 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: Unfortunately, that's Bloomberg and that's not a great choice either. You might be surprised. I like him better than any of the candidates that are actually running so far. Unfortunately his somewhat nasal NY accent will not play well many places but he is a very intelligent guy with pretty decent leadership ability. Best of all he is not beholden to any particular special interest group that I'm aware of. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:37:00 -0500, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:56:11 -0500, HK wrote: I'm not touting him, but I haven't run across any rational adults who despise Barack Obama. I don't associate with black-hating whites, so I don't know what their thoughts are and don't care, either. You haven't been talking to rank and file Democrats either I suspect. It has nothing to do with race - it has everything to do substance and a lot of the Union types along with the average Democrats that I know don't see anything from either of the two front runners that will cause them to not look elsewhere. This could be the year for a solid third party candidate with money to make a real splash nationally. Unfortunately, that's Bloomberg and that's not a great choice either. Well, if it isn't "race," why would the people you are discussing "despise" Barack Obama? They don't even know him or at this point, even very much about him. I can't speak to others - only what I hear from friends and others in conversation, but it's not race - it's more a question of "where did he come from" and "what can he do". And that's the real point - who is he? He's a first term US Senator who has spent all of his time in government or NGO work as an attorney. What specifically qualifies him to be President? He's a cypher politically building a campaign on etheral feel good politics. I talk to "rank and file" Democrats several times a week, mostly "blue collar" rank and file Democrats. Factory workers, construction workers, janitors, you know, actual working people. Um... Never mind. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:49:19 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:14:12 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Unfortunately, that's Bloomberg and that's not a great choice either. You might be surprised. I like him better than any of the candidates that are actually running so far. Unfortunately his somewhat nasal NY accent will not play well many places but he is a very intelligent guy with pretty decent leadership ability. Best of all he is not beholden to any particular special interest group that I'm aware of. I'm sure he's intelligent and he appears to have leadership ability - then again, to what end? My main concern about Bloomberg is his potential to be a nannystater based on his record in NYC banning this, that and the other thing which all should be personal choices. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:37:00 -0500, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:56:11 -0500, HK wrote: I'm not touting him, but I haven't run across any rational adults who despise Barack Obama. I don't associate with black-hating whites, so I don't know what their thoughts are and don't care, either. You haven't been talking to rank and file Democrats either I suspect. It has nothing to do with race - it has everything to do substance and a lot of the Union types along with the average Democrats that I know don't see anything from either of the two front runners that will cause them to not look elsewhere. This could be the year for a solid third party candidate with money to make a real splash nationally. Unfortunately, that's Bloomberg and that's not a great choice either. Well, if it isn't "race," why would the people you are discussing "despise" Barack Obama? They don't even know him or at this point, even very much about him. I can't speak to others - only what I hear from friends and others in conversation, but it's not race - it's more a question of "where did he come from" and "what can he do". And that's the real point - who is he? He's a first term US Senator who has spent all of his time in government or NGO work as an attorney. What specifically qualifies him to be President? He's a cypher politically building a campaign on etheral feel good politics. Indeed. He is a first term US Senator, with limited national experience, although I believe he is on the foreign relations committee. The only person on the "other side" with a decent resume is John McCain. Huckabee? He's made one foreign policy statement blunder after another. Simpleton. Romney? No foreign policy knowledge. He admitted that. Guiliani No foreign policy experience. Damaged goods. Thompson Dead. Paul Loonitarian. Hunter Who? McCain would be tough if he got the nod. Don't believe he will. Bloomberg? Well, he has the money to waste but he's not electable. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:49:19 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:14:12 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Unfortunately, that's Bloomberg and that's not a great choice either. You might be surprised. I like him better than any of the candidates that are actually running so far. Unfortunately his somewhat nasal NY accent will not play well many places but he is a very intelligent guy with pretty decent leadership ability. Best of all he is not beholden to any particular special interest group that I'm aware of. I'm sure he's intelligent and he appears to have leadership ability - then again, to what end? My main concern about Bloomberg is his potential to be a nannystater based on his record in NYC banning this, that and the other thing which all should be personal choices. Bloomberg is Jewish. That plays well in the civilized world, including Dublin, Ireland, but not too well in the most red of red states and among the wealthier suburban Republicans. The Democrats are too hungry to vote for a third party candidate. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:49:19 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:14:12 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Unfortunately, that's Bloomberg and that's not a great choice either. You might be surprised. I like him better than any of the candidates that are actually running so far. Unfortunately his somewhat nasal NY accent will not play well many places but he is a very intelligent guy with pretty decent leadership ability. Best of all he is not beholden to any particular special interest group that I'm aware of. Just what everybody is demanding. A Wall Street Multi-Billionaire President. Riiiight. --Vic |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:14:12 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:56:11 -0500, HK wrote: I'm not touting him, but I haven't run across any rational adults who despise Barack Obama. I don't associate with black-hating whites, so I don't know what their thoughts are and don't care, either. You haven't been talking to rank and file Democrats either I suspect. It has nothing to do with race - it has everything to do substance and a lot of the Union types along with the average Democrats that I know don't see anything from either of the two front runners that will cause them to not look elsewhere. This could be the year for a solid third party candidate with money to make a real splash nationally. Unfortunately, that's Bloomberg and that's not a great choice either. I generally stay out of political discussion, but will note that the circus is a lot of fun. All the talking heads that were dancing on Hillary's grave didn't just get egg on their faces - they looked like omelets. Especially the MSNBC crew, who have been absolutely fawning over Obama's speeches. Funny as hell watching them call the people of New Hampshire racists because they didn't vote for Obama. Saw Huckabee say this morning the Fred needs to take his Metamucil. All in all it's a hell of a show. --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:14:12 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:56:11 -0500, HK wrote: I'm not touting him, but I haven't run across any rational adults who despise Barack Obama. I don't associate with black-hating whites, so I don't know what their thoughts are and don't care, either. You haven't been talking to rank and file Democrats either I suspect. It has nothing to do with race - it has everything to do substance and a lot of the Union types along with the average Democrats that I know don't see anything from either of the two front runners that will cause them to not look elsewhere. This could be the year for a solid third party candidate with money to make a real splash nationally. Unfortunately, that's Bloomberg and that's not a great choice either. I generally stay out of political discussion, but will note that the circus is a lot of fun. All the talking heads that were dancing on Hillary's grave didn't just get egg on their faces - they looked like omelets. Especially the MSNBC crew, who have been absolutely fawning over Obama's speeches. Funny as hell watching them call the people of New Hampshire racists because they didn't vote for Obama. Saw Huckabee say this morning the Fred needs to take his Metamucil. All in all it's a hell of a show. --Vic Huckabee is a charming man, a very skilled communicator. If he lost the evangelical fundie crap, he'd be an interesting Democratic candidate. Fred is dead. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:37:58 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: Just what everybody is demanding. A Wall Street Multi-Billionaire President. He's a self made man, starting off as a computer programmer working with an old friend of mine at Merrill Lynch. He devised an electronic system for trading and quoting bonds which was vastly superior to anything else at the time. Merrill gave him the right to sell the system to others and he turned that into a financial empire. Sounds like intelligence and leadership ability to me. And now he wants to tell everybody how to wipe their own asses. Just because your are good in business doesn't mean that you will be good in politics. Bloomberg has proved this to be true. |
Hillary's racial insult
On Jan 11, 1:22*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 11, 8:20 am, BAR wrote: HK wrote: DownTime wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:39:03 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:10:13 GMT, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon wrote: "In a fierce counterattack, Ms. Clinton has tried to prick the ballooning support for Mr. Obama, conceding he is "a truly inspirational speaker" but adding he has "not done the kind of spade work" to back up the promises." Spade work? I still say the "N" word will be out there soon if Obama keeps beating her. Nah - but if I were Obama, I'd make a wooden stake and buy a truckload of garlic. Also if I were Obama, I'd check the bus brakes every time I got on, not eat anything from sources I couldn't vouch for, avoid balconies and buy a bomb sniffing dog. I would also watch the movie "The Omen" for other ways that I might come to grief. That's what I would do if I were Obama. :) I find it truly unfortunate and a sad commentary on our society that he'd have to be concerned with that scenario. Not that I don't agree with you to a degree, but haven't we evolved any? I had noticed and then thought during his very first election speech, "hey, this guy is different than the rest". The color of his skin means nothing to his qualifications, but I'm thinking the majority of the USA is not quite ready for him. I am more concerned with what I had been reading relating to his Muslim background than the color of his skin. Obama's rather loose "connection" to his Muslim background is a hell of a lot less scary than Huckleberry's connections to fundie Christianity.. Why?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Because a hell of a lot of fundimental Christians try to shove their beliefs down other people's thoats. And Muslim's aren't?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I never said whether Muslims were or not. How many Muslims knock on your door wanting to spread the word as opposed to Christians? |
Hillary's racial insult
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Hillary's racial insult
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:20:58 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:37:58 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: Just what everybody is demanding. A Wall Street Multi-Billionaire President. He's a self made man, starting off as a computer programmer working with an old friend of mine at Merrill Lynch. He devised an electronic system for trading and quoting bonds which was vastly superior to anything else at the time. Merrill gave him the right to sell the system to others and he turned that into a financial empire. Sounds like intelligence and leadership ability to me. I agree. And to tell the truth, that's a positive. I'd like to see a pure business man take over for a while. However, based on his nanny type personality, I'm not sure he's any different from anybody else running. Oddly, you know who I think would make a great President but he'd never in a hundred years get elected. Barney Frank. Seriously. |
Hillary's racial insult
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:56:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:20:58 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:37:58 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: Just what everybody is demanding. A Wall Street Multi-Billionaire President. He's a self made man, starting off as a computer programmer working with an old friend of mine at Merrill Lynch. He devised an electronic system for trading and quoting bonds which was vastly superior to anything else at the time. Merrill gave him the right to sell the system to others and he turned that into a financial empire. Sounds like intelligence and leadership ability to me. I agree. And to tell the truth, that's a positive. I'd like to see a pure business man take over for a while. However, based on his nanny type personality, I'm not sure he's any different from anybody else running. Are you talking about banning smoking in bars and restaurants? That's a good thing. No one should have to tolerate smoking in a public place. It's offensive and the risks are well documented. Trans fats in restaurants? That might be a little over the top but if it encourages healthier food with no decrease in perceived quality that might be OK also. What else? Of course we have to remember that his NYC constituency leans a tad to the left on average, and he has to play to what sells. |
Hillary's racial insult
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:56:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:20:58 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:37:58 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: Just what everybody is demanding. A Wall Street Multi-Billionaire President. He's a self made man, starting off as a computer programmer working with an old friend of mine at Merrill Lynch. He devised an electronic system for trading and quoting bonds which was vastly superior to anything else at the time. Merrill gave him the right to sell the system to others and he turned that into a financial empire. Sounds like intelligence and leadership ability to me. I agree. And to tell the truth, that's a positive. I'd like to see a pure business man take over for a while. However, based on his nanny type personality, I'm not sure he's any different from anybody else running. Are you talking about banning smoking in bars and restaurants? That's a good thing. No one should have to tolerate smoking in a public place. It's offensive and the risks are well documented. You have a choice to either patronize on not patronize the establishment. Your decision can be based upon service, food, smoking policy, friendliness of the staff. Trans fats in restaurants? That might be a little over the top but if it encourages healthier food with no decrease in perceived quality that might be OK also. A little over the top? How about way over the top and down the other side. What else? Of course we have to remember that his NYC constituency leans a tad to the left on average, and he has to play to what sells. A tad? |
Hillary's racial insult
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:19:02 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:56:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:20:58 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:37:58 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: Just what everybody is demanding. A Wall Street Multi-Billionaire President. He's a self made man, starting off as a computer programmer working with an old friend of mine at Merrill Lynch. He devised an electronic system for trading and quoting bonds which was vastly superior to anything else at the time. Merrill gave him the right to sell the system to others and he turned that into a financial empire. Sounds like intelligence and leadership ability to me. I agree. And to tell the truth, that's a positive. I'd like to see a pure business man take over for a while. However, based on his nanny type personality, I'm not sure he's any different from anybody else running. Are you talking about banning smoking in bars and restaurants? That's a good thing. No one should have to tolerate smoking in a public place. It's offensive and the risks are well documented. You know, believe it or not being a cigar smoker, I agree with you on that one. However, banning smoking in bars that are smoking bars goes a little too far. Private clubs should be allowed to make their own rules or areas for smokers. You don't want to breathe the smoke, don't go there. Pretty simple to me. Trans fats in restaurants? That might be a little over the top but if it encourages healthier food with no decrease in perceived quality that might be OK also. What else? Of course we have to remember that his NYC constituency leans a tad to the left on average, and he has to play to what sells. It's the do as I say, not as I do thing that makes me nervous. http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ne...,5002672.story I've seen other reports from news sources about his various proclivities including cigar smoking in public. |
Hillary's racial insult
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:19:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
Are you talking about banning smoking in bars and restaurants? That's a good thing. No one should have to tolerate smoking in a public place. It's offensive and the risks are well documented. It's also hard to blame that one on Bloomberg. Whole countries, many states, etc. have already banned smoking. It's been an ongoing process for years. Trans fats in restaurants? That might be a little over the top but if it encourages healthier food with no decrease in perceived quality that might be OK also. That might also be a wave of the future. The FDA has required labeling trans fats, and other cities are considering banning trans fats, Chicago included. What else? Of course we have to remember that his NYC constituency leans a tad to the left on average, and he has to play to what sells. |
Hillary's racial insult
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:26:43 -0500, BAR wrote:
Are you talking about banning smoking in bars and restaurants? That's a good thing. No one should have to tolerate smoking in a public place. It's offensive and the risks are well documented. You have a choice to either patronize on not patronize the establishment. Your decision can be based upon service, food, smoking policy, friendliness of the staff. If it's public accommodation, regulation has been part of doing business for years. As smoking is the number one preventable cause of death, I can see the state's reasoning. Personally, open air bans seem a little silly, but enclosed spaces? You're battling an incoming tide. |
Hillary's racial insult
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