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On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:26:43 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to say who is right or wrong but IBM was very clear with
me that their job was to return profits to the stockholders, not look
out for employees. If the two were not contradictory they did both but
when push came to shove, they "shoved" the employee. In my case (and
about 20,000 of my peers) that shove was out the door. Then they
regeged on most of the promises they made about our retirement.

IBM and several other companies like AT&T found themselves with a
surplus of highly trained folks left over from the days of
electro-mechanical hardware. They tried to retred as many as possible
into software development and other related areas but the numbers
involved were just too large, and the new generations of all digital
equipment were just too reliable and easy to maintain.



Translation: We sucked everything out of you we could, now we're
cutting you loose and we're not going to keep the commitments we made
about your retirement, either.

Thank you, and f*ck you.

Your Friends

The Golden Parachutes at Management and Our Buddies, the Shareholders.


I thought you had a sweetheart employment contract at Ullico? Weren't
you on the golden boy list at that ah small company? Didn't you get in
on some killer stock deals with MCI, Tyco, Enron, and a few others.
Isn't that why you can afford the double wide manufactured home in
Calvert County?




Drinking again?
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:26:43 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to say who is right or wrong but IBM was very clear with
me that their job was to return profits to the stockholders, not look
out for employees. If the two were not contradictory they did both but
when push came to shove, they "shoved" the employee. In my case (and
about 20,000 of my peers) that shove was out the door. Then they
regeged on most of the promises they made about our retirement.

IBM and several other companies like AT&T found themselves with a
surplus of highly trained folks left over from the days of
electro-mechanical hardware. They tried to retred as many as possible
into software development and other related areas but the numbers
involved were just too large, and the new generations of all digital
equipment were just too reliable and easy to maintain.



Translation: We sucked everything out of you we could, now we're
cutting you loose and we're not going to keep the commitments we made
about your retirement, either.

Thank you, and f*ck you.

Your Friends

The Golden Parachutes at Management and Our Buddies, the Shareholders.


I thought you had a sweetheart employment contract at Ullico? Weren't
you on the golden boy list at that ah small company? Didn't you get in
on some killer stock deals with MCI, Tyco, Enron, and a few others.
Isn't that why you can afford the double wide manufactured home in
Calvert County?




Drinking again?



No, I've actually been working hard since 6:30 AM today. My first
con-call with my India team.

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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:26:43 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to say who is right or wrong but IBM was very clear with
me that their job was to return profits to the stockholders, not look
out for employees. If the two were not contradictory they did both
but
when push came to shove, they "shoved" the employee. In my case (and
about 20,000 of my peers) that shove was out the door. Then they
regeged on most of the promises they made about our retirement.

IBM and several other companies like AT&T found themselves with a
surplus of highly trained folks left over from the days of
electro-mechanical hardware. They tried to retred as many as possible
into software development and other related areas but the numbers
involved were just too large, and the new generations of all digital
equipment were just too reliable and easy to maintain.



Translation: We sucked everything out of you we could, now we're
cutting you loose and we're not going to keep the commitments we
made about your retirement, either.

Thank you, and f*ck you.

Your Friends

The Golden Parachutes at Management and Our Buddies, the Shareholders.

I thought you had a sweetheart employment contract at Ullico? Weren't
you on the golden boy list at that ah small company? Didn't you get
in on some killer stock deals with MCI, Tyco, Enron, and a few
others. Isn't that why you can afford the double wide manufactured
home in Calvert County?




Drinking again?



No, I've actually been working hard since 6:30 AM today. My first
con-call with my India team.



Figures you'd be involved in exporting jobs. Slime.
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:26:43 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to say who is right or wrong but IBM was very clear
with
me that their job was to return profits to the stockholders, not
look
out for employees. If the two were not contradictory they did
both but
when push came to shove, they "shoved" the employee. In my case (and
about 20,000 of my peers) that shove was out the door. Then they
regeged on most of the promises they made about our retirement.

IBM and several other companies like AT&T found themselves with a
surplus of highly trained folks left over from the days of
electro-mechanical hardware. They tried to retred as many as
possible
into software development and other related areas but the numbers
involved were just too large, and the new generations of all digital
equipment were just too reliable and easy to maintain.



Translation: We sucked everything out of you we could, now we're
cutting you loose and we're not going to keep the commitments we
made about your retirement, either.

Thank you, and f*ck you.

Your Friends

The Golden Parachutes at Management and Our Buddies, the Shareholders.

I thought you had a sweetheart employment contract at Ullico?
Weren't you on the golden boy list at that ah small company? Didn't
you get in on some killer stock deals with MCI, Tyco, Enron, and a
few others. Isn't that why you can afford the double wide
manufactured home in Calvert County?




Drinking again?



No, I've actually been working hard since 6:30 AM today. My first
con-call with my India team.



Figures you'd be involved in exporting jobs. Slime.


It is my corporate overlords not me who made the decision to off-shore
the jobs.
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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:26:43 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to say who is right or wrong but IBM was very clear
with
me that their job was to return profits to the stockholders, not
look
out for employees. If the two were not contradictory they did
both but
when push came to shove, they "shoved" the employee. In my case
(and
about 20,000 of my peers) that shove was out the door. Then they
regeged on most of the promises they made about our retirement.

IBM and several other companies like AT&T found themselves with a
surplus of highly trained folks left over from the days of
electro-mechanical hardware. They tried to retred as many as
possible
into software development and other related areas but the numbers
involved were just too large, and the new generations of all digital
equipment were just too reliable and easy to maintain.



Translation: We sucked everything out of you we could, now we're
cutting you loose and we're not going to keep the commitments we
made about your retirement, either.

Thank you, and f*ck you.

Your Friends

The Golden Parachutes at Management and Our Buddies, the
Shareholders.

I thought you had a sweetheart employment contract at Ullico?
Weren't you on the golden boy list at that ah small company? Didn't
you get in on some killer stock deals with MCI, Tyco, Enron, and a
few others. Isn't that why you can afford the double wide
manufactured home in Calvert County?




Drinking again?


No, I've actually been working hard since 6:30 AM today. My first
con-call with my India team.



Figures you'd be involved in exporting jobs. Slime.


It is my corporate overlords not me who made the decision to off-shore
the jobs.



But you willingly facilitate them.


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"HK" wrote in message
...
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:26:43 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to say who is right or wrong but IBM was very clear
with
me that their job was to return profits to the stockholders, not
look
out for employees. If the two were not contradictory they did both
but
when push came to shove, they "shoved" the employee. In my case
(and
about 20,000 of my peers) that shove was out the door. Then they
regeged on most of the promises they made about our retirement.

IBM and several other companies like AT&T found themselves with a
surplus of highly trained folks left over from the days of
electro-mechanical hardware. They tried to retred as many as
possible
into software development and other related areas but the numbers
involved were just too large, and the new generations of all
digital
equipment were just too reliable and easy to maintain.



Translation: We sucked everything out of you we could, now we're
cutting you loose and we're not going to keep the commitments we
made about your retirement, either.

Thank you, and f*ck you.

Your Friends

The Golden Parachutes at Management and Our Buddies, the
Shareholders.

I thought you had a sweetheart employment contract at Ullico? Weren't
you on the golden boy list at that ah small company? Didn't you get
in on some killer stock deals with MCI, Tyco, Enron, and a few
others. Isn't that why you can afford the double wide manufactured
home in Calvert County?




Drinking again?


No, I've actually been working hard since 6:30 AM today. My first
con-call with my India team.



Figures you'd be involved in exporting jobs. Slime.


It is my corporate overlords not me who made the decision to off-shore
the jobs.



But you willingly facilitate them.


Bertie looks after Bertie......
Tough **** about anyone else!


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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:26:43 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to say who is right or wrong but IBM was very clear
with
me that their job was to return profits to the stockholders, not
look
out for employees. If the two were not contradictory they did both
but
when push came to shove, they "shoved" the employee. In my case
(and
about 20,000 of my peers) that shove was out the door. Then they
regeged on most of the promises they made about our retirement.
IBM and several other companies like AT&T found themselves with a
surplus of highly trained folks left over from the days of
electro-mechanical hardware. They tried to retred as many as
possible
into software development and other related areas but the numbers
involved were just too large, and the new generations of all
digital
equipment were just too reliable and easy to maintain.


Translation: We sucked everything out of you we could, now we're
cutting you loose and we're not going to keep the commitments we
made about your retirement, either.

Thank you, and f*ck you.

Your Friends

The Golden Parachutes at Management and Our Buddies, the
Shareholders.
I thought you had a sweetheart employment contract at Ullico? Weren't
you on the golden boy list at that ah small company? Didn't you get
in on some killer stock deals with MCI, Tyco, Enron, and a few
others. Isn't that why you can afford the double wide manufactured
home in Calvert County?



Drinking again?

No, I've actually been working hard since 6:30 AM today. My first
con-call with my India team.


Figures you'd be involved in exporting jobs. Slime.
It is my corporate overlords not me who made the decision to off-shore
the jobs.


But you willingly facilitate them.


Bertie looks after Bertie......
Tough **** about anyone else!



Correct.
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:26:43 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to say who is right or wrong but IBM was very
clear with
me that their job was to return profits to the stockholders,
not look
out for employees. If the two were not contradictory they did
both but
when push came to shove, they "shoved" the employee. In my case
(and
about 20,000 of my peers) that shove was out the door. Then they
regeged on most of the promises they made about our retirement.

IBM and several other companies like AT&T found themselves with a
surplus of highly trained folks left over from the days of
electro-mechanical hardware. They tried to retred as many as
possible
into software development and other related areas but the numbers
involved were just too large, and the new generations of all
digital
equipment were just too reliable and easy to maintain.



Translation: We sucked everything out of you we could, now we're
cutting you loose and we're not going to keep the commitments we
made about your retirement, either.

Thank you, and f*ck you.

Your Friends

The Golden Parachutes at Management and Our Buddies, the
Shareholders.

I thought you had a sweetheart employment contract at Ullico?
Weren't you on the golden boy list at that ah small company?
Didn't you get in on some killer stock deals with MCI, Tyco,
Enron, and a few others. Isn't that why you can afford the double
wide manufactured home in Calvert County?




Drinking again?


No, I've actually been working hard since 6:30 AM today. My first
con-call with my India team.



Figures you'd be involved in exporting jobs. Slime.


It is my corporate overlords not me who made the decision to off-shore
the jobs.



But you willingly facilitate them.


Harry,
While I don't believe you represent any corporations or have ever
represented any corporations, if you did, you are just as guilty of
facilitating them.

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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:26:43 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to say who is right or wrong but IBM was very
clear with
me that their job was to return profits to the stockholders,
not look
out for employees. If the two were not contradictory they did
both but
when push came to shove, they "shoved" the employee. In my case
(and
about 20,000 of my peers) that shove was out the door. Then they
regeged on most of the promises they made about our retirement.

IBM and several other companies like AT&T found themselves with a
surplus of highly trained folks left over from the days of
electro-mechanical hardware. They tried to retred as many as
possible
into software development and other related areas but the numbers
involved were just too large, and the new generations of all
digital
equipment were just too reliable and easy to maintain.



Translation: We sucked everything out of you we could, now we're
cutting you loose and we're not going to keep the commitments we
made about your retirement, either.

Thank you, and f*ck you.

Your Friends

The Golden Parachutes at Management and Our Buddies, the
Shareholders.

I thought you had a sweetheart employment contract at Ullico?
Weren't you on the golden boy list at that ah small company?
Didn't you get in on some killer stock deals with MCI, Tyco,
Enron, and a few others. Isn't that why you can afford the double
wide manufactured home in Calvert County?




Drinking again?


No, I've actually been working hard since 6:30 AM today. My first
con-call with my India team.



Figures you'd be involved in exporting jobs. Slime.


It is my corporate overlords not me who made the decision to off-shore
the jobs.



But you willingly facilitate them.


It is not a facilitation it is an agreement. I do what they ask me to do
and in return they give me a bag of gold every two weeks. The
interesting thing is that I can leave anytime I want with just a moments
notice and they can do the same. What could be better? I haven't been
fired since I worked at McDonald's as a teenager. When was your most
recent termination for cause?
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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:26:43 -0500, wrote:

I don't want to say who is right or wrong but IBM was very
clear with
me that their job was to return profits to the stockholders,
not look
out for employees. If the two were not contradictory they did
both but
when push came to shove, they "shoved" the employee. In my
case (and
about 20,000 of my peers) that shove was out the door. Then they
regeged on most of the promises they made about our retirement.

IBM and several other companies like AT&T found themselves with a
surplus of highly trained folks left over from the days of
electro-mechanical hardware. They tried to retred as many as
possible
into software development and other related areas but the numbers
involved were just too large, and the new generations of all
digital
equipment were just too reliable and easy to maintain.



Translation: We sucked everything out of you we could, now we're
cutting you loose and we're not going to keep the commitments we
made about your retirement, either.

Thank you, and f*ck you.

Your Friends

The Golden Parachutes at Management and Our Buddies, the
Shareholders.

I thought you had a sweetheart employment contract at Ullico?
Weren't you on the golden boy list at that ah small company?
Didn't you get in on some killer stock deals with MCI, Tyco,
Enron, and a few others. Isn't that why you can afford the double
wide manufactured home in Calvert County?




Drinking again?


No, I've actually been working hard since 6:30 AM today. My first
con-call with my India team.



Figures you'd be involved in exporting jobs. Slime.

It is my corporate overlords not me who made the decision to
off-shore the jobs.



But you willingly facilitate them.


It is not a facilitation it is an agreement. I do what they ask me to do
and in return they give me a bag of gold every two weeks. The
interesting thing is that I can leave anytime I want with just a moments
notice and they can do the same. What could be better? I haven't been
fired since I worked at McDonald's as a teenager. When was your most
recent termination for cause?


Uh. Never.


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